Re: Restarts of journald
On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 11:57:38PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 17.01.2017 um 03:51 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 06:40:49PM +0100, Jarek Kamiński wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> #771122 explains that journald can't be restarted, as all stdout and > >> stderr fds used by daemons to log would be lost. If I understand > > [..] > > > There were bugs, fixed only much later. See systemd pull request #4456. > > Zbigniew, do you know if it is safe now to restart journald with v233? Yes, ttbomk. Zbyszek ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Re: Restarts of journald
Am 17.01.2017 um 03:51 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 06:40:49PM +0100, Jarek Kamiński wrote: >> Hello, >> >> #771122 explains that journald can't be restarted, as all stdout and >> stderr fds used by daemons to log would be lost. If I understand [..] > There were bugs, fixed only much later. See systemd pull request #4456. Zbigniew, do you know if it is safe now to restart journald with v233? -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Re: Restarts of journald
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 06:40:49PM +0100, Jarek Kamiński wrote: > Hello, > > #771122 explains that journald can't be restarted, as all stdout and > stderr fds used by daemons to log would be lost. If I understand > correctly, that was fixed in v219[1] though: > > * systemd now provides a way to store file descriptors > > per-service in PID 1.This is useful for daemons to ensure > > that fds they require are not lost during a daemon > > restart. The fds are passed to the deamon on the next > > invocation in the same way socket activation fds are > > passed. This is now used by journald to ensure that the > > various sockets connected to all the system's stdout/stderr > > are not lost when journald is restarted. File descriptors > > may be stored in PID 1 via the sd_pid_notify_with_fds() API, > > an extension to sd_notify(). Note that a limit is enforced > > on the number of fds a service can store in PID 1, and it > > defaults to 0, so that no fds may be stored, unless this is > > explicitly turned on. > > Is it related, or am I mixing things? If yes, can #771122 be reverted? > > [1] > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028447.html There were bugs, fixed only much later. See systemd pull request #4456. Zbyszek ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Re: Restarts of journald
Hi Jarek Am 14.01.2017 um 18:40 schrieb Jarek Kamiński: > Hello, > > #771122 explains that journald can't be restarted, as all stdout and > stderr fds used by daemons to log would be lost. If I understand > correctly, that was fixed in v219[1] though: >> * systemd now provides a way to store file descriptors >> per-service in PID 1.This is useful for daemons to ensure >> that fds they require are not lost during a daemon >> restart. The fds are passed to the deamon on the next >> invocation in the same way socket activation fds are >> passed. This is now used by journald to ensure that the >> various sockets connected to all the system's stdout/stderr >> are not lost when journald is restarted. File descriptors >> may be stored in PID 1 via the sd_pid_notify_with_fds() API, >> an extension to sd_notify(). Note that a limit is enforced >> on the number of fds a service can store in PID 1, and it >> defaults to 0, so that no fds may be stored, unless this is >> explicitly turned on. > > Is it related, or am I mixing things? If yes, can #771122 be reverted? It should be possible now, I think. That said, I feel a bit uneasy doing that so close to the freeze. Doing it early in the buster release cycle seems safer. Would you mind filing a bug report for that? -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
