Re: Unclear Firefox situation
On 9/20/07, Rafał Cygnarowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dnia czwartek, 20 września 2007, Cezary Krzyzanowski napisał: > > Dnia 19-09-2007, Śr o godzinie 22:22 +0200, Rafał Cygnarowski > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > If an individual or organization is creating a Community Edition of > > > Mozilla Firefox or Thunderbird, it must use the names "Firefox Community > > > Edition" or "Thunderbird Community Edition" to identify this software. > > > These names may be further qualified to identify the software (e.g. > > > "Firefox Community Edition, French", "Thunderbird Community Edition, > > > Joe's optimized AMD Opteron build", etc.). Localizers may also translate > > > the words "Community Edition". > > > > > > So... Mozilla Firefox should be called just Firefox... isn't it true? > > > > Ehm -- and not 'Fierefox Community Edition' ?? > > Yes, I just shorted MFCE and FCE to MF and F... > But it seems like Bon Echo name is illegal(?) int this case and we should > use "Firefox". Bon Echo is not illegal. The above rules apply to packages containing "Firefox" (or any other Mozilla trademark) in their names. -- Patryk Zawadzki Generated Content ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: Unclear Firefox situation
Dnia czwartek, 20 września 2007, Cezary Krzyzanowski napisał: > Dnia 19-09-2007, Śr o godzinie 22:22 +0200, Rafał Cygnarowski > > napisał(a): > > > > If an individual or organization is creating a Community Edition of > > Mozilla Firefox or Thunderbird, it must use the names "Firefox Community > > Edition" or "Thunderbird Community Edition" to identify this software. > > These names may be further qualified to identify the software (e.g. > > "Firefox Community Edition, French", "Thunderbird Community Edition, > > Joe's optimized AMD Opteron build", etc.). Localizers may also translate > > the words "Community Edition". > > > > So... Mozilla Firefox should be called just Firefox... isn't it true? > > Ehm -- and not 'Fierefox Community Edition' ?? Yes, I just shorted MFCE and FCE to MF and F... But it seems like Bon Echo name is illegal(?) int this case and we should use "Firefox". Regards, -- Rafał Cygnarowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: Unclear Firefox situation
> I think Debian does allow it, but I don't even remember those package > names. BTW: iceweasel.spec contains obsolete version of package, with > well known security bugs. Those Debian patches seems to simply replace logos and some texts in source. After removing debian specific chunks from patches it would be simple cp of current specs + one more patch + replacing software names in specs. M. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: Unclear Firefox situation
Dnia 19-09-2007, Śr o godzinie 22:22 +0200, Rafał Cygnarowski napisał(a): > > If an individual or organization is creating a Community Edition of Mozilla > Firefox or Thunderbird, it must use the names "Firefox Community Edition" > or "Thunderbird Community Edition" to identify this software. These names may > be further qualified to identify the software (e.g. "Firefox Community > Edition, French", "Thunderbird Community Edition, Joe's optimized AMD Opteron > build", etc.). Localizers may also translate the words "Community Edition". > > > So... Mozilla Firefox should be called just Firefox... isn't it true? > Ehm -- and not 'Fierefox Community Edition' ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: Unclear Firefox situation
Dnia środa, 19 września 2007, Jakub Bogusz napisał: > "Mozilla Community Edition Policy" doesn't say anything about files > or filenames, just: > >You may not prefix the name product with "Mozilla" (e.g. "Mozilla > Firefox Community Edition" is not allowed.) nor use the official Firefox > or Thunderbird logos to identify the software. You can, of course, > still use the unofficial ones. And earlier: If an individual or organization is creating a Community Edition of Mozilla Firefox or Thunderbird, it must use the names "Firefox Community Edition" or "Thunderbird Community Edition" to identify this software. These names may be further qualified to identify the software (e.g. "Firefox Community Edition, French", "Thunderbird Community Edition, Joe's optimized AMD Opteron build", etc.). Localizers may also translate the words "Community Edition". So... Mozilla Firefox should be called just Firefox... isn't it true? Regards, -- Rafał Cygnarowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: Unclear Firefox situation
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 09:42:06PM +0200, Marcin Król wrote: > > Older versions of Firefox used "Bon Echo" branding which is permitted > > to all parties. Now it seems official branding is back. Any particular > > reason? Are we allowed to do that? We can use "community edition" > > instead of "Bon Echo" but I doubt we are allowed to ship it as > > "Firefox." > > I didn't used 2.0.0.7 yet but 2.0.0.6 was BonEcho on both Ac and Th. > Quick look at changelog says that it still should be BonEcho or I missed > something. Anyway, problem is more complex. We can't use branding for > Thunderbird and SeaMonkey as well. Last one is problematic as it doesn't > matter if you do official build or not, its always branded. Maybe we > should use Debian patches and change software names, logos etc to > Iceweasel, Iceape and Icedove? Does Debian allows use of these patches > in other distros? I have it in my looong todo but with low priority. I think Debian does allow it, but I don't even remember those package names. BTW: iceweasel.spec contains obsolete version of package, with well known security bugs. > BTW: if I remember correctly license also disallows use of terms > "mozilla firefox" and "mozilla thunderbird" anywhere in package > including executable file names. "Mozilla Community Edition Policy" doesn't say anything about files or filenames, just: You may not prefix the name product with "Mozilla" (e.g. "Mozilla Firefox Community Edition" is not allowed.) nor use the official Firefox or Thunderbird logos to identify the software. You can, of course, still use the unofficial ones. -- Jakub Boguszhttp://qboosh.pl/ ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: Unclear Firefox situation
> Older versions of Firefox used "Bon Echo" branding which is permitted > to all parties. Now it seems official branding is back. Any particular > reason? Are we allowed to do that? We can use "community edition" > instead of "Bon Echo" but I doubt we are allowed to ship it as > "Firefox." I didn't used 2.0.0.7 yet but 2.0.0.6 was BonEcho on both Ac and Th. Quick look at changelog says that it still should be BonEcho or I missed something. Anyway, problem is more complex. We can't use branding for Thunderbird and SeaMonkey as well. Last one is problematic as it doesn't matter if you do official build or not, its always branded. Maybe we should use Debian patches and change software names, logos etc to Iceweasel, Iceape and Icedove? Does Debian allows use of these patches in other distros? I have it in my looong todo but with low priority. BTW: if I remember correctly license also disallows use of terms "mozilla firefox" and "mozilla thunderbird" anywhere in package including executable file names. M. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Unclear Firefox situation
Older versions of Firefox used "Bon Echo" branding which is permitted to all parties. Now it seems official branding is back. Any particular reason? Are we allowed to do that? We can use "community edition" instead of "Bon Echo" but I doubt we are allowed to ship it as "Firefox." -- Patryk Zawadzki Generated Content ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
