Re: [Framework-Team] resigning from framework team
Hi Johannes, Thank you for all these years and let rediscovery always be a part of your life! -Roel On 12 December 2017 at 21:40, Johannes Raggam <thete...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > since some time it's getting harder for me to attend the Framework Team > meetings. It's due to workload, family obligations and rediscovered > personal interests which are getting in the way. Also, I'm part of this > team since 2011 and I feel it's time to make room for others. > > So: I want to resign and leave the Framework Team. > > Of course I'll continue to work on my submitted PLIPs, take part in > discussions and continue to contribute to Plone wherever and whenever I > can. So I won't wind down my Plone contributions. I just try to get back > my spare time :) > > Maybe I'll rejoin this or another team if I find some more time for it > in the future. > > > So long and all the best, > Johannes > ___ > Framework-Team mailing list > framework-t...@lists.plone.org > https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team > -- Roel Bruggink tel: +31-6-1626-0881 r...@jaroel.nl ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] New member
Gil can subscribe right here: https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team Have a good one! -Roel On 23 October 2016 at 15:17, Eric Bréhault <ebreha...@gmail.com> wrote: > by the way, could however is managing this maillist add Gil to the > recipients? > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Ramon Navarro Bosch <ramon...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Great idea! >> >> >> El dg., 23 oct. 2016 a les 5:31, Timo Stollenwerk (<ti...@plone.org>) va >> escriure: >> >>> Great idea! >>> >>> Am 23.10.16 um 05:25 schrieb Johannes Raggam: >>> > Hi Eric, >>> > >>> > Great idea! Lets do it like so. >>> > And welcome Gil, if you read it. >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > Johannes >>> > >>> > >>> > On 10/22/2016 03:24 PM, Eric Bréhault wrote: >>> >> Hi all, >>> >> >>> >> As you know, Gil Forcada assisted the FWT meeting we had at the >>> >> conference, and I had the feeling he was not against participating to >>> >> our work. >>> >> >>> >> At the moment, several persons in the team are not able to participate >>> >> actively, so I think it would be nice if Gil could join us. >>> >> >>> >> So I proposed him, and he is ok with the idea but he has also a lot of >>> >> work in the testing team and the release team, so we decided he could >>> >> participate to the next meetings for like a month or two, and then he >>> >> will apply officially if he think he can handle it. >>> >> >>> >> What do you think? >>> >> >>> >> Eric >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ___ >>> >> Framework-Team mailing list >>> >> framework-t...@lists.plone.org >>> >> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team >>> >> >>> > ___ >>> > Framework-Team mailing list >>> > framework-t...@lists.plone.org >>> > https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team >>> > >>> ___ >>> Framework-Team mailing list >>> framework-t...@lists.plone.org >>> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team >>> >> -- >> Ramon Navarro Bosch >> >> ___ >> Framework-Team mailing list >> framework-t...@lists.plone.org >> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team >> >> > > ___ > Framework-Team mailing list > framework-t...@lists.plone.org > https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team > > -- Roel Bruggink https://www.fourdigits.nl/over-ons#roel-bruggink Four Digits BV https://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 26 4422700 ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
[Framework-Team] Stepping down
Hi all, I'm stepping down from the FWT effective immediately due to change of interest. If you need any kind of input, please don't hesitate to ask! So long, and thanks for all the fish! -- Roel Bruggink https://www.fourdigits.nl/over-ons#roel-bruggink Four Digits BV https://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 26 4422700 ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] next FWT meeting
Next Tuesday afaik. On 24 April 2015 at 16:22, Eric Bréhault ebreha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Did you decide the next FWT meeting date at Sorrento ? Eric ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team -- Roel Bruggink https://www.fourdigits.nl/over-ons#roel-bruggink Four Digits BV https://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 26 4422700 ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] social media meta tags plip
Hi Nathan, Thank you for the PLIP and the implementation. We'll discuss this during the next FWT meeting. Cheers! On 6 February 2015 at 21:41, Mikel Larreategi mlarreat...@codesyntax.com wrote: I'm not in the FWT but there's at least one add on that provides this functionality collective.opengraph and allows to be extended providing adapters for each content type. Mikel -- Mikel Larreategi CodeSyntax +34 943821780 El 06/02/2015 15:42, Eric Bréhault ebreha...@gmail.com escribió: Hi Nathan, I agree it can be very useful. Nevertheless, on the technical point of view, it could also be implemented as an add-on. Could you explain why you think it is better to put it in the core? Eric On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Nathan Van Gheem nat...@vangheem.us wrote: Hi all, I just added a real simple plip for some core functionality I think we should have. https://dev.plone.org/ticket/20256 Please consider this simple change to be included with Plone 5 yet. All the code is done, pull requests are made, we just need review and the review will only take 1 minute. -- Nathan Van Gheem Solutions Architect Wildcard Corp ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team -- Roel Bruggink https://www.fourdigits.nl/over-ons#roel-bruggink Four Digits BV https://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 26 4422700 ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] Porting tests to plone.app.testing and removal of legacy packages
+1 I'm in. On 29 January 2015 at 10:31, Jens W. Klein j...@bluedynamics.com wrote: +1 I'am in, one hour before FWT hangout sounds good. Jens On 2015-01-29 08:23, Timo Stollenwerk wrote: Hi, I was wondering if we could discuss the CI rules and our development process face to face during a hangout. I would like to get a better understanding of what Nathan, Johannes, Jens and other have brought up. The next FWT meeting will be February 3th if I'm not mistaken. What about scheduling a hangout one hour before the FWT meeting starts (20:00 CET)? I'd be also ok with discussing the during the FWT meeting itself, if the other FWT members are ok with that. People that are interested in the discussion could join us... Cheers, Timo Am 28.01.2015 um 22:40 schrieb Nathan Van Gheem: I'd also like to comment. If you are going to revert someone's commits, please let them know. It's very frustrating to find out a week later that your work has been reverted. Lastly, I'll just echo the comments of others that our testing restrictions really does make it difficult to contribute and that it likely prevents me and other from contributing more. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Gil Forcada Codinachs gforc...@gnome.org mailto:gforc...@gnome.org wrote: 2015-01-28 22:19 GMT+01:00 Gil Forcada Codinachs gil.gn...@gmail.com mailto:gil.gn...@gmail.com: Green build! http://jenkins.plone.org/job/plone-5.0-python-2.7-at/3598 -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge. net/ ___ Plone-developers mailing list plone-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:plone-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers -- Nathan Van Gheem Solutions Architect Wildcard Corp -- Klein Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team -- Roel Bruggink https://www.fourdigits.nl/over-ons#roel-bruggink Four Digits BV https://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 26 4422700 ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 20144
Please keep all discussions on the mailinglist or PLIP ticket when possible, so the process in transparent to all community members. Cheers! On 11 December 2014 at 11:51, Timo Stollenwerk ti...@plone.org wrote: Hi, I just talked to Philip (as discussed at the last FWT meeting). He will revert the changes and make a pull request. We should invite him (and maybe also Dylan) to the next FWT meeting to discuss the PLIP in detail. Cheers, Timo Am 09.12.2014 um 13:39 schrieb Johannes Raggam: On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 12:10 +0100, Timo Stollenwerk wrote: Am 09.12.2014 um 11:16 schrieb Philip Bauer: 1. Tests: I realized that most test do not use the dexterity types at all. It might be that we miss some problems because of that. I changed the tests for plone.app.contentmenu to test both AT and DX ( https://github.com/plone/plone.app.contentmenu/pull/8) but the test-setup is a little cumbersome. We need a canonical test-setup to test both frameworks otherwise all packages do it differently and future developers will a good reason to hate us. Thanks for bringing this up! :) yep. The initial idea was to move all tests to use Dexterity types or the p.a.contenttypes fixture (if necessary). I don't think a generic test fixture that supports both AT and DX is possible. Tests with tons of if/else statements for DX/AT are a horrible idea in my optinion. They are a nightmare to maintain, to debug and really hard to understand. In plone.app.event until 1.2 there is a generic test suite for Archetypes and Dexterity. I think, this approach was quite elegant: In https://github.com/plone/plone.app.event/blob/1.2.x/plone/app/event/tests/base_setup.py#L32 there is an ``AbstractSampleDataEvents``, which creates a basic set of content to test with. The abstract ``event_factory`` method was overridden by AT or DX based unit test classes, like here: https://github.com/plone/plone.app.event/blob/1.2.x/plone/app/event/tests/test_event_view.py#L13 You see, ``TestEventViewDX`` defines all tests cases and the concrete implementation of ``event_factory`` and uses an DX test layer. ``TestEventViewAT`` below just subclasses the DX one, overrides ``event_factory`` and uses an AT layer: https://github.com/plone/plone.app.event/blob/1.2.x/plone/app/event/tests/test_event_view.py#L63 So both unit tests classes run the same the test cases. That's possible, because there are AT and DX content type accessors/wrappers, which unify ``set`` and ``get`` access to those types. Initially this was a proof of concept on how to support both Archetypes and Dexterity in one package without duplicating code. It works quite well! But we were removing the Archetypes based code from plone.app.event 2.0, since this release is Dexterity only. To the question on what to do with our Plone tests: Instead of creating accessor methods for AT and DX content types, I think it's better to rewrite for Dexterity only and move the Archetypes test classes into the ATContentTypes package before. Johannes Therefore, even though it is not perfect, I think we should stick with the approach to test against Dexterity only. For some packages it might be necessary to actually test both, but those should be the exception from the rule. Most packages just need some content object and it does not really matter if it is a DX or AT object. One problem I see with that approach is that the p.a.contenttypes fixture, that most packages use, might be a bit too heavy. If p.a.contenttypes becomes the de-factor test layer we have to make sure that we keep it lightweight (because it is incredibly hard to change a test fixture that is used by so many packages later and it is generally a bad practice to put stuff into the main fixture if they are only needed for a couple of tests). Therefore we should have a close look at the p.a.contenttypes and p.a.event test fixture and make sure they are as lightweight as possible. I agree that we need to write down some guidelines for tests and that we have to work on that. Though, my priorities right now are the control panels, because they are blocking the Plone 5 beta release. If anybody wants to work on that I'm happy to help though! Timo ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team -- Rob Gietema https://www.fourdigits.nl/over-ons#roel-bruggink Four Digits BV https://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 26 4422700 ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 20114 plone.api sprint - people needed
I prefer to take Nejc's dates on this, because he probably knows most 'bout this. Nejc, could you doodle some dates that would work for you? -Roel On 24 November 2014 at 13:27, Franco Pellegrini frap...@gmail.com wrote: Well... I don't really have any availability on weekdays... however, schedule it when it is more convenient to you, and I'll try to join or do something in the weekend. Cheers, Franco On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 7:48:31 AM Nejc Zupan nejc.zu...@gmail.com wrote: Same with me. Though it looks like I'll be away from home in the second half of December so I'm available any day then. z. On 24. nov. 2014, at 11.20, Jens W. Klein j...@kleinundpartner.at wrote: Weekends and austrian holidays are problematic, because they are reserved familiy time. All other dates are fine and a classical depends on project schedules. Jens On 2014-11-24 10:33, Roel Bruggink wrote: It seems we cannot get one date for all of us. Nejc, Jens, Franco: The dates selected are best for me, but they seem inconvenient for you. What date would suit you better? Gil, Do you have any preferences? -Roel On 20 November 2014 at 14:39, Roel Bruggink r...@fourdigits.nl mailto:r...@fourdigits.nl wrote: Nejc, I can some thursdays, but I can't join them. Franco, Understandable, that's why it's 11:00 for me :) -Roel On 20 November 2014 14:33, Franco Pellegrini frap...@gmail.com mailto:frap...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, that time is 7am my time, so I will be joining you a bit later... not waking up at that time on a weekend :P haha On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 10:33:05 AM Franco Pellegrini frap...@gmail.com mailto:frap...@gmail.com wrote: I would love to join you guys... In my case is almost impossible in a week day... I marked my time in the doodle. See ya ! On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 8:59:02 AM Nejc Zupan nejc.zu...@gmail.com mailto:nejc.zu...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any chance to do it during the week? My weekends and most of fridays are just so hard to get free … However, if everyone else would prefer fri/sat/sun, I’ll of course make it happen. cheers, z. On 20. nov. 2014, at 12.54, Roel Bruggink r...@fourdigits.nl mailto:r...@fourdigits.nl wrote: Hi potential sprinters! I've selected some dates that would work for me. They're all fr/sa/sun. http://doodle.com/__s9hk3r74wwvpy47h http://doodle.com/s9hk3r74wwvpy47h Could you see which dates would suit you? The sooner the better ;) -Roel On 17 November 2014 13:46, Nejc Zupan nejc.zu...@gmail.com mailto:nejc.zu...@gmail.com wrote: We no longer use ReadTheDocs. That section should be removed. On 17. nov. 2014, at 13:34, Jens W. Klein j...@bluedynamics.com mailto:j...@bluedynamics.com wrote: On 2014-11-17 12:38, Nejc Zupan wrote: +1 for a new release (should probably be 1.3 since we are introducing new features). I would prefer someone else doing it so we make sure our docs are correct: http://docs.plone.org/__external/plone.api/docs/__ contribute/release.html http://docs.plone.org/external/plone.api/docs/ contribute/release.html Jens, I've added you to the list of maintainers hence you can do it yourself. I will do as soon as I now how to Tell ReadTheDocs to display the latest version of docs by default. Any pointers? Jens -- Klein Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance __ ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org mailto:framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/__ mailman/listinfo/plone-__framework-team https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone- framework-team Nejc Zupan M: +386 (0)40 730 735 E: nejc.zu...@gmail.com mailto: nejc.zu...@gmail.com
Re: [Framework-Team] FWT meeting attendance stats
Thank you for everything so far, Rok. Come join us for some beer if you are in the Netherlands again! ;) -Roel On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Rok Garbas r...@garbas.si wrote: hi guys, last month i've been unactive since i was on a quest to learn surfing (some call this vacation). with july i'm starting to work in berlin in a position which does not involve any plone development, therefore i would like to step down as a framework team member since i will have very little or no time for plone in comming year. thank you for all the patience you had with me. -- Rok Garbas - http://www.garbas.si ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team -- Roel Bruggink http://www.fourdigits.nl/mensen/roel-bruggink Four Digits BV http://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31(0)26 4422700 ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
