Re: [PLUG] Issues with web browsers

2017-09-01 Thread Michael Barnes
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Dick Steffens  wrote:

> On 09/01/2017 04:06 PM, Michael Barnes wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:59 AM, John Jason Jordan 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I wanted to see the html source and send it to you off-list.  I could
> >> swear that there is a way to view the source in Firefox, but now I
> >> can't find the button.
> >>
> > RIGHT Click on page, select "View Page Source"
> >
>
> Even easier than walking down a menu. Although not as easy as Ctrl-U. :-)
>
> Did not know about ctrl-U. Thanks!
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Re: [PLUG] Need help: application builds on 64-bit but not 32-bit systems

2017-09-01 Thread wes
On Friday, September 1, 2017, Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:
>
>
> How do you run Alpine on Android?
>
>
>
Use ssh :-)

-wes
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Re: [PLUG] Issues with web browsers

2017-09-01 Thread Dick Steffens
On 09/01/2017 04:06 PM, Michael Barnes wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:59 AM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:
>
>> I wanted to see the html source and send it to you off-list.  I could
>> swear that there is a way to view the source in Firefox, but now I
>> can't find the button.
>>
> RIGHT Click on page, select "View Page Source"
>

Even easier than walking down a menu. Although not as easy as Ctrl-U. :-)

-- 
Regards,

Dick Steffens

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Re: [PLUG] Need help: application builds on 64-bit but not 32-bit systems

2017-09-01 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Tomas Kuchta wrote:

> This "Use Alpine" maybe meant as joke

   Yep. I'm not in favor of web-based MUAs.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Need help: application builds on 64-bit but not 32-bit systems

2017-09-01 Thread Tomas Kuchta
@Ben

This "Use Alpine" maybe meant as joke - in case it was not - How do you run
Alpine on Android?



On Sep 1, 2017 10:30 AM, "Rich Shepard"  wrote:

On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Ben Koenig wrote:

> The report-gnome.go file appears to be a build file, not a system file.
> You are encountering a processing error for the .scm file, which results
> in a build file not getting generated. Later on the build system goes back
> and cannot find file that it failed to generate. This is why your google
> search returns nothing, its a temp build file.

Ben,

   Turns out that the SBo has very outdated versions of libwebp and
webkitgtk. I just downloaded the newest versions and will rebuild/upgrade
those libraries then try gnucash again. I think this will make a difference.

> Apologies in advance, gmail app on android sucks

   Use alpine. :-)

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Issues with web browsers

2017-09-01 Thread Michael Barnes
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:59 AM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:

>
> I wanted to see the html source and send it to you off-list.  I could
> swear that there is a way to view the source in Firefox, but now I
> can't find the button.
>

RIGHT Click on page, select "View Page Source"

Michael
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Re: [PLUG] Issues with web browsers

2017-09-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 13:18:59 -0700
Dick Steffens  dijo:

>On 09/01/2017 11:59 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
><...>
>
>> I wanted to see the html source and send it to you off-list.  I could
>> swear that there is a way to view the source in Firefox, but now I
>> can't find the button.
>
>Firefox 53.0 (64-bit) Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0
>
>Tools > Web Developer > Page Source Ctrl+U
>(near the bottom of the list)
>
>Looks like they decided that the unwashed don't need to see the page 
>source and only web developers look for it.

Ah! There it is! Thanks!
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Re: [PLUG] Issues with web browsers

2017-09-01 Thread Dick Steffens
On 09/01/2017 11:59 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

<...>

> I wanted to see the html source and send it to you off-list.  I could
> swear that there is a way to view the source in Firefox, but now I
> can't find the button.

Firefox 53.0 (64-bit) Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0

Tools > Web Developer > Page Source Ctrl+U
(near the bottom of the list)

Looks like they decided that the unwashed don't need to see the page 
source and only web developers look for it.

-- 
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Dick Steffens

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Re: [PLUG] Issues with web browsers

2017-09-01 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> Using Firefox 55.0.2 on Xubuntu 14.04, up to date, I went to the main
> page at the link above, then clicked on Bug Reports and the page loaded
> quickly and perfectly.

   All other pages load without problems. Why this one didn't shall remain a
mystery. I was sent the direct link to the bug report page and that worked
fine.

   Perhaps I'll need to re-compile opera and chromium to get them working
again. Very strange.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] HDHomeRun Config GUI loses connection

2017-09-01 Thread Ken Stephens
Larry Brigman wrote:
> You need to determine which side is losing the connection.  Silicondust
> does have a decent Linux Forum.
> Is everything up to date on the 14.04?  I had tried to setup TVHeadend on
> Linux.  At the time I tried it, things
> were not all that stable with the V4L drivers and the HDHomeRun.
>
> Something else that could cause problems is time.  Is ntp running?  Does
> the time step every once in a while?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:06 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:
>
>> My house is wired with Cat6 ethernet to which everything is connected,
>> including an HDHomeRun TV tuner (the Connect, not the Extend or the
>> Prime). The incoming signal is just an over the air antenna. The router
>> is a D-Link DIR-860L B1 (thanks again, Russell). The router also
>> supplies wireless, used only by my phone and my laptop, although the
>> laptop is also wired.
>>
>> Everything works perfectly except that the HDHomeRun Config GUI pops up
>> a 'communication error' message periodically. Sometimes I can go a
>> couple days without it happening, but this evening it happened three
>> times, one right after the other. I can recover just by scrolling up or
>> down in the channel list in the HDHomeRun confit GUI. In other words,
>> this is a major annoyance, but not a total fail.
>>
>> Side note: All my computers are just straight Xubuntu 14.04, up to
>> date. There is no mythtv installed. All I use to view television on VLC
>> is the HDHomeRun Config GUI.
>>
>> The manufacturer, Silicondust, provides occasional firmware updates.
>> The latest is dated 8/15/2017 and I have applied it, but there was no
>> change in the frequency of the errors.
>>
>> At the last Clinic I brought up this issue and Tomas suggested setting
>> up a cron job to ping the HDHomeRun device periodically. After thinking
>> about it I think that this would accomplish nothing. It would respond
>> to the ping and several hours later would lose the connection again.
>>
>> I could use some suggestions.
>> ___
>>
>>
John,

Could be a bad cable or a loose connection.

Ken
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Re: [PLUG] Issues with web browsers

2017-09-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 08:21:44 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>   All this on Slackware-14.2/32-bit.
>
>I need to understand what the system is telling me. Firefox loads pages
>OK, but when I try to use the 'bug reports' link on www.gnucash.org it
>tells me it cannot load that page. One of the gnucash devs has no
>problems loading it.

Using Firefox 55.0.2 on Xubuntu 14.04, up to date, I went to the main
page at the link above, then clicked on Bug Reports and the page loaded
quickly and perfectly. The Firefox Help About says that I have "Mozilla
Firefox for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0." The URL for the Bug Reports page is
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bugzilla

I wanted to see the html source and send it to you off-list.  I could
swear that there is a way to view the source in Firefox, but now I
can't find the button.

However, I did find Tools > Page Info that gives me a popup with
various tabs, including one labeled Security, which says "Connection
Encrypted (TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, 128 bit keys, TLS
1.2." It also says that the site is storing cookies on my computer. The
General tab says "Modified: July 27, 2017, 6:48:37 PM PDT." There is a
lot more under the other tabs but you can't select and copy most of it
to paste here, and I'm not sure which of it might be helpful.

I didn't try any other browsers.
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Re: [PLUG] Need help: application builds on 64-bit but not 32-bit systems

2017-09-01 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Ben Koenig wrote:

> The report-gnome.go file appears to be a build file, not a system file.
> You are encountering a processing error for the .scm file, which results
> in a build file not getting generated. Later on the build system goes back
> and cannot find file that it failed to generate. This is why your google
> search returns nothing, its a temp build file.

Ben,

   Turns out that the SBo has very outdated versions of libwebp and
webkitgtk. I just downloaded the newest versions and will rebuild/upgrade
those libraries then try gnucash again. I think this will make a difference.

> Apologies in advance, gmail app on android sucks

   Use alpine. :-)

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Need help: application builds on 64-bit but not 32-bit systems

2017-09-01 Thread Ben Koenig
I have not attempted this build yet, however

The report-gnome.go file appears to be a build file, not a system file.
You are encountering a processing error for the .scm file, which results in
a build file not getting generated. Later on the build system goes back and
cannot find file that it failed to generate. This is why your google search
returns nothing, its a temp build file.


Which version of guile is installed, and compare to packages.slackware.com.


Apologies in advance, gmail app on android sucks
-Ben


On Aug 31, 2017 5:04 PM, "Rich Shepard"  wrote:

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017, Tomas Kuchta wrote:

> You can pass additional search path to ./configure on the command line see
> help/comments inside ./configure to see what options. Or run ./configure
> --help

Tom,

   First I need to figure out what search path is being used.

   My current approach is building 2.6.17 on the 32-bit Dell Latitude 2100,
re-directing stdout and stderr to the build.log file. Then I'll run 'diff
-y  ' and see where they differ. This should tell me
what's different between a system that upgraded from 14.1 to 14.2 and a
system with 14.2 installed on a new disk.

Thanks,

Rich
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[PLUG] Issues with web browsers

2017-09-01 Thread Rich Shepard
   All this on Slackware-14.2/32-bit.

   I need to understand what the system is telling me. Firefox loads pages
OK, but when I try to use the 'bug reports' link on www.gnucash.org it tells
me it cannot load that page. One of the gnucash devs has no problems loading
it.

   Opera crashes when I try to load it.

   Chromium (the very latest version) loads, but when I try to access
www.gnucash.com it crashes with bus errors. Sometimes, when I invoke
chromium it shows me a page "Aw, snap. Something went wrong displaying this
page."

   No other web site gives me any issues using firefox.

   I welcome your insights and thoughts on what might be going on.

Rich
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