Re: [PLUG] Thoughts on Linux Distros & Desktop Enviro

2017-07-12 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 00:00:49 -0700
Tom  dijo:

>I would be very careful to check sha256sum and compare it against
>known, published source before installing anything off a public torrent
> these days.

I don't plan to install it or, if I do, I will install into Virtualbox.
Since downloading it I have read more about it and I'm now convinced
that it is not for me. But there is much hype about their desktop
environment, so that is what I want to play around with. I'll probably
just burn the ISO to a USB stick.

But your point about downloading software from a public torrent is a
good one. 
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Re: [PLUG] Thoughts on Linux Distros & Desktop Enviro

2017-07-12 Thread Tom
I would be very careful to check sha256sum and compare it against
known, published source before installing anything off a public torrent
 these days.
Better be safe than sorry.
Just my 2c,
Tomas
On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 19:10 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:40:13 -0700
> John Jason Jordan  dijo:
> 
> > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:29:44 -0700
> > "Mike C."  dijo:
> > 
> > > Last year I cam across Deepin. It's a Debian based distro w.
> > > their
> > > own Desktop Enviro. And not only do all the lil' things work as
> > > you
> > > would expect like w. a MS Win or MAC OS, it works well, is
> > > beautiful
> > > and fast/fluid. Rolling updates are quick & painless. 
> > 
> > This sounded interesting so I asked Mr. Google to come up with a
> > live
> > ISO for me. Indeed, he did, but it is 2.6 GB and I couldn't get the
> > server to send it to me faster than 20K/sec. I looked all over for
> > torrents, but none to be found. For now I have given up. 
> 
> The Pirate Bay came up with a torrent and I now have the ISO. Maybe
> I'll play with it at the next Clinic.
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Re: [PLUG] Thoughts on Linux Distros & Desktop Enviro

2017-07-10 Thread Nat Taylor
I have the deepin desktop environment installed on my Arch linux machine.
Currently I'm only using the bootloader to load XFCE, as it works better
for me, and I didn't get around to switching it.
But it definitely looks nice, and I may be missing something...

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:09 PM, EJ Finneran  wrote:

> They link to a Google Drive link below the main link. The Google Drive link
> worked great for me.
>
> https://www.deepin.org/en/download
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6tQiyXN9eI9a01mX3ZZT2tXVlk?
> usp=sharing
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:40 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:29:44 -0700
> > "Mike C."  dijo:
> >
> > >Last year I cam across Deepin. It's a Debian based distro w. their own
> > >Desktop Enviro. And not only do all the lil' things work as you would
> > >expect like w. a MS Win or MAC OS, it works well, is beautiful and
> > >fast/fluid. Rolling updates are quick & painless.
> >
> > This sounded interesting so I asked Mr. Google to come up with a live
> > ISO for me. Indeed, he did, but it is 2.6 GB and I couldn't get the
> > server to send it to me faster than 20K/sec. I looked all over for
> > torrents, but none to be found. For now I have given up.
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Re: [PLUG] Thoughts on Linux Distros & Desktop Enviro

2017-07-10 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:40:13 -0700
John Jason Jordan  dijo:

>On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:29:44 -0700
>"Mike C."  dijo:
>
>>Last year I cam across Deepin. It's a Debian based distro w. their
>>own Desktop Enviro. And not only do all the lil' things work as you
>>would expect like w. a MS Win or MAC OS, it works well, is beautiful
>>and fast/fluid. Rolling updates are quick & painless. 
>
>This sounded interesting so I asked Mr. Google to come up with a live
>ISO for me. Indeed, he did, but it is 2.6 GB and I couldn't get the
>server to send it to me faster than 20K/sec. I looked all over for
>torrents, but none to be found. For now I have given up. 

The Pirate Bay came up with a torrent and I now have the ISO. Maybe
I'll play with it at the next Clinic.
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Re: [PLUG] Thoughts on Linux Distros & Desktop Enviro

2017-07-10 Thread EJ Finneran
They link to a Google Drive link below the main link. The Google Drive link
worked great for me.

https://www.deepin.org/en/download

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6tQiyXN9eI9a01mX3ZZT2tXVlk?
usp=sharing

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:40 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:29:44 -0700
> "Mike C."  dijo:
>
> >Last year I cam across Deepin. It's a Debian based distro w. their own
> >Desktop Enviro. And not only do all the lil' things work as you would
> >expect like w. a MS Win or MAC OS, it works well, is beautiful and
> >fast/fluid. Rolling updates are quick & painless.
>
> This sounded interesting so I asked Mr. Google to come up with a live
> ISO for me. Indeed, he did, but it is 2.6 GB and I couldn't get the
> server to send it to me faster than 20K/sec. I looked all over for
> torrents, but none to be found. For now I have given up.
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Re: [PLUG] Thoughts on Linux Distros & Desktop Enviro

2017-07-10 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:29:44 -0700
"Mike C."  dijo:

>Last year I cam across Deepin. It's a Debian based distro w. their own 
>Desktop Enviro. And not only do all the lil' things work as you would 
>expect like w. a MS Win or MAC OS, it works well, is beautiful and 
>fast/fluid. Rolling updates are quick & painless. 

This sounded interesting so I asked Mr. Google to come up with a live
ISO for me. Indeed, he did, but it is 2.6 GB and I couldn't get the
server to send it to me faster than 20K/sec. I looked all over for
torrents, but none to be found. For now I have given up. 
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[PLUG] Thoughts on Linux Distros & Desktop Enviro

2017-07-10 Thread Mike C.
Here's a blurb from an article I read on on /. that got me thinking 
about my decade long journey w. Linux distros./
"To little surprise, Ubuntu was the most popular Linux distribution 
running on the respondents' laptops.38.9% of the respondents were said 
to be using Ubuntu 
while 
interesting in second place was Arch Linux at 27.1% followed by Debian 
at 15.3%. Rounding out the top ten were then Fedora at 14.8%, Linux Mint 
in 5th at 10.8%, openSUSE/SUSE in sixth at 4.2%, Gentoo in seventh at 
3.9%, CentOS/RHEL in eighth at 3.1%, Solus in ninth at 2%, and Manjaro 
in tenth at 1.6%. The other Linux distributions had each commanded less 
than 1% of the overall response/"//

I suspect a lot of PLUG'ers are Ubuntu users. I tried various Ubuntu 
versions over the years and there was always things I didn't like such 
as upgrades, silly audio probs,  or that it ran slower compared to 
Debian based distros. So I mostly ran Debian and lived with non-fully 
functional Desktop Enviros, or wireless driver probs, or going into or 
coming out of suspend mode would b0rk up the works. I often had to hack 
on Debian, which at times was fun & interesting and at other times was 
really frustrating & annoying.

Last year I cam across Deepin. It's a Debian based distro w. their own 
Desktop Enviro. And not only do all the lil' things work as you would 
expect like w. a MS Win or MAC OS, it works well, is beautiful and 
fast/fluid. Rolling updates are quick & painless. I didn't have 
blacklist my onboard sound to use external speakers or figure out what 
the correct wifi driver to use is. Deepin has also made its DE available 
to most other popular distros.

After a decade of running Linux on personal computers, for me the dream 
of the Linux Desktop has finally become a daily reality for this quite 
happy user! It has been a most glorious year of running Linux. The best 
in a decade I can honestly say.

It's not my intention for this to be an advertisement but just a sharing 
of my experience of the evolution using Linux and the Desktop Enviro. 
Something which many Linux devs never cared about for many years.

Happy Linux-ing!

Cheers!,

Mike


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