Re: [PLUG] Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit: Message 'Boot is Full'

2016-11-14 Thread Tony Schlemmer
Have you search google.com? They show how to use the Synacptic Package
Manager to remove old kernels that are not being used:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-old-kernel-versions
-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu

Tony

On Sun, 2016-11-13 at 16:39 -0800, Vedanta Teacher wrote:
> Everyone,
> 
>    I'm running a relatively new HP Pavilion desktop with:
> Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit
> Version 3.0.7
> Linux Kernel 4.4.0-47-generic
> AMD A8 CPU
> RAM 14.6
> HD 945.9GB
> 
> Yesterday it threw a message at my of: Boot is Full
> 
> I've used the default installation settings for Boot & Grub.
> 
> **
> I did a quick search on Chromium and some people recommended:
> 
> apt-get -f install
> apt-get clean
> dpkg
> 
> I searched the Mint site and some recommendations were:
> 
> Using the Synaptic Package Manager to remove old kernel
> images (but I'd need to know which ones...)
> 
> **
> Question:
> 
> I must be having a senior moment... Is there a quick easy way
> to remove the unneeded items or, just make the Boot partition larger?
> I'm no super user but I can run some simple command lines.
> 
> There are some files on this machine that I'd like to save.
> If I totally bonk things I do have a laptop running 17.3 that
> I can use.
> 
> Blessings,
> Paul W.
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Re: [PLUG] Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit: Message 'Boot is Full'

2016-11-14 Thread Bruce Kilpatrick
On 11/14/2016 04:47 AM, Vedanta Teacher wrote:
> I have to work the day of the clinic but I will bring it in
> after work. In thinking about it the system probably
>  has several kernel images due to upgrades.
> Modifying a kernel or boot is above my skills but I'll
> see what I can do.
>
> Blessings,
> Paul W.
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Jim Karlock  wrote:
>
>> At 04:39 PM 11/13/2016, Vedanta Teacher wrote:
>>> Everyone,
>>>
>>>I'm running a relatively new HP Pavilion desktop with:
>>> Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit
>>> Version 3.0.7
>>> Linux Kernel 4.4.0-47-generic
>>> AMD A8 CPU
>>> RAM 14.6
>>> HD 945.9GB
>>>
>>> Yesterday it threw a message at my of: Boot is Full
>>>
>>> I've used the default installation settings for Boot & Grub.
>>>
>>> **
>>> I did a quick search on Chromium and some people recommended:
>>>
>>> apt-get -f install
>>> apt-get clean
>>> dpkg
>>>
>>> I searched the Mint site and some recommendations were:
>>>
>>> Using the Synaptic Package Manager to remove old kernel
>>> images (but I'd need to know which ones...)
>>>
>>> **
>>> Question:
>>>
>>> I must be having a senior moment... Is there a quick easy way
>>> to remove the unneeded items or, just make the Boot partition larger?
>>> I'm no super user but I can run some simple command lines.
>>>
>>> There are some files on this machine that I'd like to save.
>>
>> Don't forget that you can remove the hard drive and read it on
>> another computer with a USB adapter.
>>
>> Thanks
>> JK
>>
>>
>>> If I totally bonk things I do have a laptop running 17.3 that
>>> I can use.
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>> Paul W.
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Doesn't "sudo apt-get autoremove"  remove all but the latest couple of 
kernels?

I use this after most dist-upgrades and have only two images in /boot 
(along with the other necessary files).


Bruce
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Re: [PLUG] Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit: Message 'Boot is Full'

2016-11-14 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 04:39:22PM -0800, Vedanta Teacher wrote:
> Everyone,
> 
>I'm running a relatively new HP Pavilion desktop with:
> Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit
> Version 3.0.7
> Linux Kernel 4.4.0-47-generic
> RAM 14.6
> HD 945.9GB
> 
> Yesterday it threw a message at my of: Boot is Full
> 
> I've used the default installation settings for Boot & Grub.

Presumably, you have both a boot and a main partition.
Most distros are set up this way.

Mint is probably set up to run automated updates, which
means it adds new kernels with security fixes from time
to time, and does not delete the old ones.  If you 
installed Mint with a "just big enough" boot partition,
a few updates will add enough kernels to fill it.

Your boot partition is too small.

The easiest way to fix this is with a "live flash drive"
(like a live CD), using gparted with a GUI.  A live CD
will work just as well (but slower).  I'm pretty sure
Mint has a live flash drive version.  

If not, you can do this with an Ubuntu live (CD/flash).

With gparted, you can make the main partition smaller,
and then the boot partition bigger.  With a one terabyte
hard drive, I would make the boot partition at least
10 GB, or more than 5 times as much space as it uses
now.  That is way more than you will probably ever need,
but you won't ever have to deal with this error again.

You can also use text editors and command line tools from
the install (CD/flash) in repair mode, and remove the older
kernels.  This is not a difficult fix, but it is easy to
screw up, so I do not recommend it for the not-yet-adept
who have monster hard drives like yours.

There's a small chance that your boot partition is fine,
but you are intentionally storing stuff in boot that
doesn't belong there.  Don't do that, move those unholy
files to your main partition, and sin no more.  You can
do that with a live CD, or in repair mode, too.  But if
the distro put those files in boot, let not man split
asunder. :-)

Keith

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Keith Lofstrom  kei...@keithl.com

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Re: [PLUG] Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit: Message 'Boot is Full'

2016-11-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016, Vedanta Teacher wrote:

> Yesterday it threw a message at my of: Boot is Full

> I must be having a senior moment... Is there a quick easy way to remove
> the unneeded items or, just make the Boot partition larger? I'm no super
> user but I can run some simple command lines.

   Caveat: I use lilo, not grub, and Slackware, so details are likely to
differ.

   Do you have a separate /boot partition? What does 'df -h' show?

   In /boot you might have soft-linked files (Syatem.map, config, vmlinuz).
If so, getting a long listing of /boot using 'ls -l' will show to whch
kernel and friends those are associated. You can, as root, delete other
versions that grub will not see and cannot use.

   You might need to modify your grub configuration, but the short answer to
your question is that you should be able to free space in /boot.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit: Message 'Boot is Full'

2016-11-14 Thread Vedanta Teacher
I have to work the day of the clinic but I will bring it in
after work. In thinking about it the system probably
 has several kernel images due to upgrades.
Modifying a kernel or boot is above my skills but I'll
see what I can do.

Blessings,
Paul W.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Jim Karlock  wrote:

> At 04:39 PM 11/13/2016, Vedanta Teacher wrote:
> >Everyone,
> >
> >I'm running a relatively new HP Pavilion desktop with:
> >Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit
> >Version 3.0.7
> >Linux Kernel 4.4.0-47-generic
> >AMD A8 CPU
> >RAM 14.6
> >HD 945.9GB
> >
> >Yesterday it threw a message at my of: Boot is Full
> >
> >I've used the default installation settings for Boot & Grub.
> >
> >**
> >I did a quick search on Chromium and some people recommended:
> >
> >apt-get -f install
> >apt-get clean
> >dpkg
> >
> >I searched the Mint site and some recommendations were:
> >
> >Using the Synaptic Package Manager to remove old kernel
> >images (but I'd need to know which ones...)
> >
> >**
> >Question:
> >
> >I must be having a senior moment... Is there a quick easy way
> >to remove the unneeded items or, just make the Boot partition larger?
> >I'm no super user but I can run some simple command lines.
> >
> >There are some files on this machine that I'd like to save.
>
> Don't forget that you can remove the hard drive and read it on
> another computer with a USB adapter.
>
> Thanks
> JK
>
>
> >If I totally bonk things I do have a laptop running 17.3 that
> >I can use.
> >
> >Blessings,
> >Paul W.
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Re: [PLUG] Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit: Message 'Boot is Full'

2016-11-14 Thread Jim Karlock
At 04:39 PM 11/13/2016, Vedanta Teacher wrote:
>Everyone,
>
>I'm running a relatively new HP Pavilion desktop with:
>Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit
>Version 3.0.7
>Linux Kernel 4.4.0-47-generic
>AMD A8 CPU
>RAM 14.6
>HD 945.9GB
>
>Yesterday it threw a message at my of: Boot is Full
>
>I've used the default installation settings for Boot & Grub.
>
>**
>I did a quick search on Chromium and some people recommended:
>
>apt-get -f install
>apt-get clean
>dpkg
>
>I searched the Mint site and some recommendations were:
>
>Using the Synaptic Package Manager to remove old kernel
>images (but I'd need to know which ones...)
>
>**
>Question:
>
>I must be having a senior moment... Is there a quick easy way
>to remove the unneeded items or, just make the Boot partition larger?
>I'm no super user but I can run some simple command lines.
>
>There are some files on this machine that I'd like to save.

Don't forget that you can remove the hard drive and read it on 
another computer with a USB adapter.

Thanks
JK


>If I totally bonk things I do have a laptop running 17.3 that
>I can use.
>
>Blessings,
>Paul W.
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Re: [PLUG] Mint 18.0 Cinnamon 64-bit: Message 'Boot is Full'

2016-11-13 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 16:39:22 -0800
Vedanta Teacher  dijo:

>Yesterday it threw a message at my of: Boot is Full
>I've used the default installation settings for Boot & Grub.

Did you create a separate partition for /boot?

>I did a quick search on Chromium and some people recommended:
>
>apt-get -f install
>apt-get clean
>dpkg

These are for cleaning up dependencies and extraneous packages that are
no longer needed. The commands won't hurt, but probably won't help if
the problem is that a partition is full.

>I searched the Mint site and some recommendations were:
>Using the Synaptic Package Manager to remove old kernel
>images (but I'd need to know which ones...)

In /boot/grub there is a text file 'grub.cfg.' Open it with a text
editor and it will show you all the kernel images that are currently
available to boot to. If the computer will still boot, an easier
solution is to hit Esc as it is booting. This will give you the grub
boot menu where you will see all the kernels available. I'd leave at
least the two latest ones. Once you know which kernels are installed
you can use Synaptic to remove the ones you no longer need.

>There are some files on this machine that I'd like to save.
>If I totally bonk things I do have a laptop running 17.3 that
>I can use.

If the computer will still boot, just copy them off onto a USB stick or
burn them to a DVD. If the computer will not boot, then use a live DVD
for Mint or Ubuntu or a rescue CD. Once booted to the operating system
on the live media you can mount the existing partitions, then copy
files off as desired.

If none of this helps, bring it to the Clinic next Sunday.
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