Re: [PLUG] ATTENTION REQUIRED | ONE MORE STEP

2021-10-16 Thread Ben Koenig
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Friday, October 15th, 2021 at 7:57 PM,  wrote:

> I just ended up having to write an email to a site's tech contact via
>
> their whois records because their website has been down for the past
>
> two days. Replaced with the message:
>
> Checking your browser before accessing example.tld.
>
> This process is automatic. Your browser will redirect to your requested
>
> content shortly.
>
> Please allow up to 5 seconds…
>
> DDoS protection by Cloudflare
>
> a new change from the usual ATTENTION REQUIRED | ONE MORE STEP
>
> oh so your human? Name every stoplight
>
> Apparently I'm not the only one with this problem, as seen by
>
> https://git.fuwafuwa.moe/you/stop_cloudflare/src/branch/master/PEOPLE.md
>
> They are marketing themselves as some kind of ddos
>
> protection site to prevent downtime, but in actuality when websites use
>
> cloudflare, their website in inaccessible and is effectively down. Down
>
> when it wouldn't be if no cloudflare was used.
>
> webmasters seem to fall for Cloudflare's shady marketing
>
> tactics, making claims like it will ""speed up"" your site or that your
>
> site /needs/ a ""CDN"" when they aren't streaming video or doing
>
> something latency intensive. I'm surprised they continue on with these
>
> dubious at best advertising claims.
>
> Cloudflare's near-monopoly on popular websites has put them in a
>
> position of power; which they use to censor the internet by making
>
> absurd claims that I and many other people are robots and blocking
>
> their access websites. Or saying I have "A VIRUS" on my network without
>
> any evidence. Using that baseless claim as justification. I have
>
> noticed it really seems to just block every browser that isn't google
>
> chrome or mozilla firefox (90% google funded).
>
> Surely there are laws to prevent this kind of thing? If there aren't
>
> like like to discuss potential laws that could be put in place, at
>
> least local at first to stop cloudflare.
>

The question you need to ask is this:

"If I, as a user feel that I have suffered financial damage as a result of the 
actions taken by , who do I contact in order to make seek 
compensation?"

There is a discussion to be had for the Free Software community involving class 
action lawsuits. In particular, how to get the ball rolling because these days 
liebel, defamation, and false advertising are commonplace. There are plenty of 
things happening that impact me financially in the tech industry but I have no 
idea who I need to call in order to flex my rights as a US citizen.

I honestly don't know how these extreme conservatives/liberals manage to burn 
through so many legal claims. Everytime someone says something racist/sexist 
there's a national shitshow but when Google lies to congress it's all crickets. 
Maybe this is why Red Hat is trying to bury the FSF under false claims of 
transphobic behavior - The FSF is so busy defending themselves they never have 
a chance to actually advocate for the community.
-Ben


[PLUG] ATTENTION REQUIRED | ONE MORE STEP

2021-10-15 Thread tgrom . automail
I just ended up having to write an email to a site's tech contact via
their whois records because their website has been down for the past
two days. Replaced with the message:

Checking your browser before accessing example.tld.

This process is automatic. Your browser will redirect to your requested
content shortly.

Please allow up to 5 seconds…
DDoS protection by Cloudflare 

a new change from the usual ATTENTION REQUIRED | ONE MORE STEP
oh so your human? Name every stoplight

Apparently I'm not the only one with this problem, as seen by
https://git.fuwafuwa.moe/you/stop_cloudflare/src/branch/master/PEOPLE.md


They are marketing themselves as some kind of ddos
protection site to prevent downtime, but in actuality when websites use
cloudflare, their website in inaccessible and is effectively down. Down
when it wouldn't be if no cloudflare was used.

webmasters seem to fall for Cloudflare's shady marketing
tactics, making claims like it will ""speed up"" your site or that your
site /needs/ a ""CDN"" when they aren't streaming video or doing
something latency intensive. I'm surprised they continue on with these
dubious at best advertising claims.

Cloudflare's near-monopoly on popular websites has put them in a
position of power; which they use to censor the internet by making
absurd claims that I and many other people are robots and blocking
their access websites. Or saying I have "A VIRUS" on my network without
any evidence. Using that baseless claim as justification. I have
noticed it really seems to just block every browser that isn't google
chrome or mozilla firefox (90% google funded).

Surely there are laws to prevent this kind of thing? If there aren't
like like to discuss potential laws that could be put in place, at
least local at first to stop cloudflare.
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