Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
Framework indicates Iris Xe Graphics DIY model base price is $749 and comes w/o an OS. They recommend Fedora 35 https://community.frame.work/t/fedora-linux-35-on-the-framework-laptop/6613 or Ubuntu 21.04 https://community.frame.work/t/ubuntu-21-04-on-the-framework-laptop/2722 WIndows model starts at $999 https://frame.work/products/laptop/configuration/edit ~~R StGeorge On 11/29/21 13:40, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Russell Senior wrote: Then there is the question of whether you are paying the microsoft tax. My initial reading about the frame.work laptop shows it ships with Windows, whether you use it or not. And it's their DIY model (or one option) that requires an NVIDIA driver. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
My X13-1 thinkpad with Ryzen 7 4750U has not crashed in the year I have it either. I suspend it a lot, have run out battery a few times, rarely reboot post update When it was new, it needed newer kernel than in Ubuntu 20.04 at the time though. One of the point releases upgraded the kernel a few months into it. I changed ssd/nvme to lower power one, and all hw works from the start including finger print reader. And I get bios updates through standard fwupdmgr. I hope it helps someone, -T On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 16:43 Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > There are also some stability issues with Ryzen systems. I get about > 10-30 > > minutes in KDevelop before my thinkpad e485 crashes. Happens on my > desktop > > too. > > Ben, > > My Ryzen 7/2700 desktop has not crashed; the last reboot (user error, not > hardware) was 121 days ago. > > Rich >
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Ben Koenig wrote: There are also some stability issues with Ryzen systems. I get about 10-30 minutes in KDevelop before my thinkpad e485 crashes. Happens on my desktop too. Ben, My Ryzen 7/2700 desktop has not crashed; the last reboot (user error, not hardware) was 121 days ago. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Russell Senior wrote: Then there is the question of whether you are paying the microsoft tax. My initial reading about the frame.work laptop shows it ships with Windows, whether you use it or not. And it's their DIY model (or one option) that requires an NVIDIA driver. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
The primary problems tend to be closed hardware with no open-source drivers, and for a laptop that often manifests as Broadcom wifi radios. If you can make sure that the laptop does not come with a Broadcom wifi (and maybe Nvidia graphics), the likelihood is that you won't have trouble. Then there is the question of whether you are paying the microsoft tax. My initial reading about the frame.work laptop shows it ships with Windows, whether you use it or not. On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:05 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Randy Bush wrote: > > > fwiw, i would be deeply shocked if a modern lenovo did not run linux. you > > might need ubu as opposed to deb, because of lagging drivers. > > Randy, > > The newer hardware is the issue. > > Regards, > > Rich
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Randy Bush wrote: fwiw, i would be deeply shocked if a modern lenovo did not run linux. you might need ubu as opposed to deb, because of lagging drivers. Randy, The newer hardware is the issue. Regards, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
> Thanks for sharing your experiences. There are series newer than the T > and X and I cannot find linux compatability information for them. fwiw, i would be deeply shocked if a modern lenovo did not run linux. you might need ubu as opposed to deb, because of lagging drivers. randy
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: My Lenovo had no problem running several different distributions over the years it was in service...for what that's worth. Bruce, Thanks for sharing your experiences. There are series newer than the T and X and I cannot find linux compatability information for them. Since I have not been traveling on business (local or distant) I've really no reason to replace the Dell Latitude E5410 or Lenovo X-200, so despite low prices on some newer portables I'll stick with what I have until they unrepairably quit. Stay well, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
My Lenovo had no problem running several different distributions over the years it was in service...for what that's worth. Bruce On 11/29/21 10:09 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Rich Shepard wrote: I believe that Lenovo is continuing it's linux support in its new laptops. Is there any reason why I could not install linux on the Lenovo Laptop IdeaPad 5 15ALC05 82LN006CUS AMD Ryzen 7 5000 Series 5700U (1.80GHz) 8 GB Memory 512 GB PCIe SSD AMD Radeon Graphics and upgrade the memory and the hard drive? Newegg's chat person could not find an answer to my question and Lenovo doesn't have a chat service and every attempt to contact them via their web site requires a product serial number. I don't follow hardware for linux and cannot find whether this laptop supports the OS so I guess I'll not upgrade my old Dell. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Randy Bush wrote: https://frame.work Thanks for the suggestion, Randy. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
> Newegg's chat person could not find an answer to my question and > Lenovo doesn't have a chat service and every attempt to contact > them via their web site requires a product serial number. > > I don't follow hardware for linux and cannot find whether this > laptop supports the OS so I guess I'll not upgrade my old Dell. https://frame.work
Re: [PLUG] Lenovo laptop [UPDATE]
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, Rich Shepard wrote: I believe that Lenovo is continuing it's linux support in its new laptops. Is there any reason why I could not install linux on the Lenovo Laptop IdeaPad 5 15ALC05 82LN006CUS AMD Ryzen 7 5000 Series 5700U (1.80GHz) 8 GB Memory 512 GB PCIe SSD AMD Radeon Graphics and upgrade the memory and the hard drive? Newegg's chat person could not find an answer to my question and Lenovo doesn't have a chat service and every attempt to contact them via their web site requires a product serial number. I don't follow hardware for linux and cannot find whether this laptop supports the OS so I guess I'll not upgrade my old Dell. Rich