Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 12:10 PM Tomas Kuchta wrote: > > FWIW: > > There used to be a way to enable insecure applications under google account. > > -T > They removed that. Bill
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
FWIW: There used to be a way to enable insecure applications under google account. -T On Sun, Jun 12, 2022, 13:08 Tomas Kuchta wrote: > I use on-line accounts in gnome and/or kde. They are so called "secure > authentication apps". They in turn provide authentication via gnome/kde key > wallets to my emai client - in my case evolution. > > Tomas > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 23:58 Russell Senior > wrote: > >> And, there are other authenticator apps that also work. They use a >> shared key plus time to generate a six digit code that changes every >> 30 seconds. >> >> TOTP >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_one-time_password for details. >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 8:43 PM Randy Bush wrote: >> > >> > >> In order to fix the issue you have to enable two >> > >> factor authentication on your Google account. >> > > >> > > Jesus Christ is Google hungry for phone numbers. >> > >> > no. it's the millions they make off the free 2fa google authenticator >> > app. >> > >> > 2fs need not be a text message. in fact, texts are worse and worse for >> > 2fa. >> > >> > randy, who is not a big google fan but uses the authenticator >> >
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
I use on-line accounts in gnome and/or kde. They are so called "secure authentication apps". They in turn provide authentication via gnome/kde key wallets to my emai client - in my case evolution. Tomas On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 23:58 Russell Senior wrote: > And, there are other authenticator apps that also work. They use a > shared key plus time to generate a six digit code that changes every > 30 seconds. > > TOTP > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_one-time_password for details. > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 8:43 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > > > >> In order to fix the issue you have to enable two > > >> factor authentication on your Google account. > > > > > > Jesus Christ is Google hungry for phone numbers. > > > > no. it's the millions they make off the free 2fa google authenticator > > app. > > > > 2fs need not be a text message. in fact, texts are worse and worse for > > 2fa. > > > > randy, who is not a big google fan but uses the authenticator >
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
And, there are other authenticator apps that also work. They use a shared key plus time to generate a six digit code that changes every 30 seconds. TOTP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_one-time_password for details. On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 8:43 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > >> In order to fix the issue you have to enable two > >> factor authentication on your Google account. > > > > Jesus Christ is Google hungry for phone numbers. > > no. it's the millions they make off the free 2fa google authenticator > app. > > 2fs need not be a text message. in fact, texts are worse and worse for > 2fa. > > randy, who is not a big google fan but uses the authenticator
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
>> In order to fix the issue you have to enable two >> factor authentication on your Google account. > > Jesus Christ is Google hungry for phone numbers. no. it's the millions they make off the free 2fa google authenticator app. 2fs need not be a text message. in fact, texts are worse and worse for 2fa. randy, who is not a big google fan but uses the authenticator
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:19:33 -0500 Bill Barry wrote: > In order to fix the issue you have to enable two > factor authentication on your Google account. Jesus Christ is Google hungry for phone numbers. Not even retail employees on the sales floor at Wal*Mart are that pushy.
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
On 6/11/22 11:35, Bill Barry wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 1:23 PM Dick Steffens wrote: Grouse, grouse. Google is always trying to be "helpful." I logged in to Google Mail via a browser, found where to turn on two factor authentication, and turned it on. I still can't log in from Thunderbird. I tried shutting down T-Bird and starting it back up, but that didn't help. I logged back in to Google Mail where it tells me two factor authentication is turned on. Sigh. Fortunately, I don't use gmail too often, and I can always check it in a browser, but it's annoying. Thanks for letting me know about their requirement. -- Regards, Dick Steffens Go to this page. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 Follow the instructions for "Create & use App Passwords" create an App password and use it in Thunderbird instead of the password you are currently using. When you create the password it is displayed with as 4 sets of 4 characters separated by spaces. Do not use the spaces when you enter it in Thunderbird. Bill Just did it. I'm logged in. I did a copy and paste, so I didn't notice that it didn't use the spaces. That worked. Thanks. -- Regards, Dick Steffens
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 1:23 PM Dick Steffens wrote: > > > Grouse, grouse. Google is always trying to be "helpful." > > I logged in to Google Mail via a browser, found where to turn on two > factor authentication, and turned it on. I still can't log in from > Thunderbird. I tried shutting down T-Bird and starting it back up, but > that didn't help. I logged back in to Google Mail where it tells me two > factor authentication is turned on. Sigh. Fortunately, I don't use gmail > too often, and I can always check it in a browser, but it's annoying. > > Thanks for letting me know about their requirement. > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > Go to this page. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 Follow the instructions for "Create & use App Passwords" create an App password and use it in Thunderbird instead of the password you are currently using. When you create the password it is displayed with as 4 sets of 4 characters separated by spaces. Do not use the spaces when you enter it in Thunderbird. Bill
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
On 6/11/22 10:19, Bill Barry wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 10:45 AM Dick Steffens wrote: When I try to log in to my Gmail account via Thunderbird I get the message: Sending of password for user [my account name]@gmail.com did not succeed. Mail server pop.googlemail.com responded: Username and password not accepted. If I try to log in via a browser, the password works. My other email accounts work fine in Thunderbird. Any idea what gives? -- Regards, Dick Steffens This has to do with a change that Google made to Gmail. On May 30 or thereabouts they made it so that "insecure apps" can't access Gmail using the regular Gmail login name and password. I know this affects Microsoft Outlook and I am assuming from your description that it affects Thunderbird. In order to fix the issue you have to enable two factor authentication on your Google account. Then instead of your regular password you will have to use an App Password. There are more details about how to do this here https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en Grouse, grouse. Google is always trying to be "helpful." I logged in to Google Mail via a browser, found where to turn on two factor authentication, and turned it on. I still can't log in from Thunderbird. I tried shutting down T-Bird and starting it back up, but that didn't help. I logged back in to Google Mail where it tells me two factor authentication is turned on. Sigh. Fortunately, I don't use gmail too often, and I can always check it in a browser, but it's annoying. Thanks for letting me know about their requirement. -- Regards, Dick Steffens
Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 10:45 AM Dick Steffens wrote: > > When I try to log in to my Gmail account via Thunderbird I get the message: > > Sending of password for user [my account name]@gmail.com did not > succeed. Mail server pop.googlemail.com responded: Username and password > not accepted. > > If I try to log in via a browser, the password works. My other email > accounts work fine in Thunderbird. Any idea what gives? > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > This has to do with a change that Google made to Gmail. On May 30 or thereabouts they made it so that "insecure apps" can't access Gmail using the regular Gmail login name and password. I know this affects Microsoft Outlook and I am assuming from your description that it affects Thunderbird. In order to fix the issue you have to enable two factor authentication on your Google account. Then instead of your regular password you will have to use an App Password. There are more details about how to do this here https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en Bill
[PLUG] Thunderbird Login Issue
When I try to log in to my Gmail account via Thunderbird I get the message: Sending of password for user [my account name]@gmail.com did not succeed. Mail server pop.googlemail.com responded: Username and password not accepted. If I try to log in via a browser, the password works. My other email accounts work fine in Thunderbird. Any idea what gives? -- Regards, Dick Steffens
