Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
I am constantly switching between English and Spanish, I just have my machines setup for [Control]+[shift] which toggles back and forth from one language to the other. On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 3:10 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > Consider changing your keyboard to "English (intl, with AltGr dead keys)" > > The right Alt key (as opposed to the left, not correct) gives you access > > to é á etc as shifted keys. As easy as getting a capital letter. > > Michael, > > I hadn't thought at all about keyboards. What I have here (among a couple > of > relevant choices) is Generic 102-key (Intl) PC. And Xfce4 settings has an > option to set 'left win' as the Compose key. My keyboards are actually the > 'mini' type, the same size and layout as on a laptop. > > Thanks, > > Rich > -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Ph 4:13 KJV Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. Fil 4:13 RVR1960
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, Michael Rasmussen wrote: Consider changing your keyboard to "English (intl, with AltGr dead keys)" The right Alt key (as opposed to the left, not correct) gives you access to é á etc as shifted keys. As easy as getting a capital letter. Michael, I hadn't thought at all about keyboards. What I have here (among a couple of relevant choices) is Generic 102-key (Intl) PC. And Xfce4 settings has an option to set 'left win' as the Compose key. My keyboards are actually the 'mini' type, the same size and layout as on a laptop. Thanks, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On 2022-09-15 15:01, Rich Shepard wrote: My locale is set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8. I write primarily in text-based applications such as emacs and alpine, and I want to learn how to enter accented characters so I can type, for example, Résumé rather than Resume. My web searches have not been productive, probably because I'm not using the appropriate search terms. If there's a document I can read and use as a reference please point me to it. Consider changing your keyboard to "English (intl, with AltGr dead keys)" The right Alt key (as opposed to the left, not correct) gives you access to é á etc as shifted keys. As easy as getting a capital letter. -- Michael Rasmussen Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022, John Jason Jordan wrote: Others have mentioned Ctrl-Shift-u, which gives you the opportunity to enter the Unicode value for the character you want. I need a lot of these for linguistics work, so I made up a little table with two columns, one for the character as it appears and its name, and another for the Unicode hex number. I found a little message utility that pops up my list on the screen whenever I need to see it. John, That's a good approach and, since I rarely need non-ASCII characters, what I'll do. But I also added the Compose key to my keyboard which is faster when all I need are normal diacritics for things like ¡résumé! I assigned the Windows key to be the Compose key, so to type an é I hold down the Windows key, type an apostrophe, then type an e, and it comes out é. The only problem with the Compose key is that setting it up disables repeat typing. The Compose key seems to be tightly associates with the ubuntus; I've not found a way to define it in Slackware (but my LQ question may provide an answer.) I also added a keyboard for Polytonic Greek, which I can activate by clicking on a little flag in my panel - the American flag changes to a Greek flag or back again, or I can switch it with Ctrl-Shift-Alt. My more common need is explaining complex ecological/environmental issues to non-technical audiences in plain English. I've not found a keyboard for that. :-) Regards, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
> > . I used to just switch the keyboard to appropriate language and print the keyboard layout on a piece of paper. After a while, I'd get used to the layout. Much faster than entering key codes, even if you remember them. It probably would not be so easy in arabic or Japanese That is different type of barrier. T >
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 15:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Rich Shepard dijo: >My locale is set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8. I write primarily in text-based >applications such as emacs and alpine, and I want to learn how to enter >accented characters so I can type, for example, Résumé rather than >Resume. Others have mentioned Ctrl-Shift-u, which gives you the opportunity to enter the Unicode value for the character you want. I need a lot of these for linguistics work, so I made up a little table with two columns, one for the character as it appears and its name, and another for the Unicode hex number. I found a little message utility that pops up my list on the screen whenever I need to see it. But I also added the Compose key to my keyboard which is faster when all I need are normal diacritics for things like ¡résumé! I assigned the Windows key to be the Compose key, so to type an é I hold down the Windows key, type an apostrophe, then type an e, and it comes out é. The only problem with the Compose key is that setting it up disables repeat typing. I also added a keyboard for Polytonic Greek, which I can activate by clicking on a little flag in my panel - the American flag changes to a Greek flag or back again, or I can switch it with Ctrl-Shift-Alt.
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022, Robert Kopp wrote: You could add the keyboard of a language that has the characters you want. Presumably French would be the appropriate one here. It's easy to switch keyboards while you type. Thanks, Robert. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, Keith Lofstrom wrote: Over the years, I've built a table of special characters, digraphs, which I use for cut-and-paste into web pages and libreoffice documents: http://server-sky.com/Digraph Keith, Thank you. I'll use that. Big equations require special composition languages. I use latex for documents like scientific papers, and libreoffice for casual stuff. I've switched from LaTeX in Emacs to LyX when it came out and I've used it since then. All documents from my office are typeset. "TeX for the Impatient" by Abrams et. al. has a 17 page index of special characters, and the ascii line noise that produces them. Knuth's "The TeXbook" (for the more patient) has a 25 page index. When I wrote my book (published by Springer in 2005) I used PDF copies of tables of LaTeX special characters and, of course, all the math that Knuth used as the reason for creating TeX. When writing a book about set theory and fuzzy logic (e.g., linguistic variables) mathematic equations are abundant. Regards, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 03:01:45PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: > My locale is set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8. I write primarily in text-based > applications such as emacs and alpine, and I want to learn how to enter > accented characters so I can type, for example, Résumé rather than Resume. My approach is a little different, and does not rely as much on my failing memory, or a compose key. Over the years, I've built a table of special characters, digraphs, which I use for cut-and-paste into web pages and libreoffice documents: http://server-sky.com/Digraph I have a dual-screen desktop, and when I am working on a document that needs special characters, I bring up the document on one side and the Digraph page on the other. This works for small bits of text, like "résumé". However, in that particular case, I forgo the accents if the verb and the noun are easily distinguishable by context. If the reader is a pompous ass, or intends to hire one, there are many better opportunities. Big equations require special composition languages. I use latex for documents like scientific papers, and libreoffice for casual stuff. "TeX for the Impatient" by Abrams et. al. has a 17 page index of special characters, and the ascii line noise that produces them. Knuth's "The TeXbook" (for the more patient) has a 25 page index. Then there are Arabic, Hindi, and Chinese ... those may be essential for under-30's by the time they reach my age, after the AI translation-bots develop unfriendly agendas. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, Johnathan Mantey wrote: I can assist with Emacs The C-x 8 RET keybind allows you to enter unicode sequences, or the "long name" equivalent. "Insert character (Unicode name or hex):" From : https://www.fileformat.info/info/charset/UTF-8/list.htm I found: LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE (U+00E9) or LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH GRAVE (U+00E8) depending on which direction you want the "tickmark" to lean. Thank you, Johnathan. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
I can assist with Emacs The C-x 8 RET keybind allows you to enter unicode sequences, or the "long name" equivalent. "Insert character (Unicode name or hex):" >From : https://www.fileformat.info/info/charset/UTF-8/list.htm I found: LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE (U+00E9) or LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH GRAVE (U+00E8) depending on which direction you want the "tickmark" to lean. On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:28 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, Dick Steffens wrote: > > > Is diacritical mark the search term you need? Or acute accent? > > Dick, > > It depends on the language and word. A comprehensive dictionary would be > perfect. > > Thanks, > > Rich >
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, Dick Steffens wrote: Is diacritical mark the search term you need? Or acute accent? Dick, It depends on the language and word. A comprehensive dictionary would be perfect. Thanks, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, Richard England wrote: I believe what you are looking for may be the Compose Key. Here are a couple references but a search will turn up more, I'm certain. https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/tips-specialchars.html.en Richard, Thanks. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey This may not be applicable, but I'll look at it. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
My accent, to the degree I have one, is chronic. On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 15:05 Dick Steffens wrote: > On 9/15/22 15:01, Rich Shepard wrote: > > My locale is set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8. I write primarily in text-based > > applications such as emacs and alpine, and I want to learn how to enter > > accented characters so I can type, for example, Résumé rather than > > Resume. > > > > My web searches have not been productive, probably because I'm not > > using the > > appropriate search terms. > > > > If there's a document I can read and use as a reference please point > > me to > > it. > > > > Rich > > Is diacritical mark the search term you need? Or acute accent? > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > >
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
I believe what you are looking for may be the Compose Key. Here are a couple references but a search will turn up more, I'm certain. https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/tips-specialchars.html.en https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey ~~R On 9/15/22 15:01, Rich Shepard wrote: My locale is set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8. I write primarily in text-based applications such as emacs and alpine, and I want to learn how to enter accented characters so I can type, for example, Résumé rather than Resume. My web searches have not been productive, probably because I'm not using the appropriate search terms. If there's a document I can read and use as a reference please point me to it. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
On 9/15/22 15:01, Rich Shepard wrote: My locale is set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8. I write primarily in text-based applications such as emacs and alpine, and I want to learn how to enter accented characters so I can type, for example, Résumé rather than Resume. My web searches have not been productive, probably because I'm not using the appropriate search terms. If there's a document I can read and use as a reference please point me to it. Rich Is diacritical mark the search term you need? Or acute accent? -- Regards, Dick Steffens
[PLUG] Typing accented characters in text files
My locale is set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8. I write primarily in text-based applications such as emacs and alpine, and I want to learn how to enter accented characters so I can type, for example, Résumé rather than Resume. My web searches have not been productive, probably because I'm not using the appropriate search terms. If there's a document I can read and use as a reference please point me to it. Rich
