Re: Slack for PLUG

[Donald Mac McCarthy]

I know slack is not F/OSS, but it is nearly ubiquitous. Many of my
clients use it and as such, I use it to communicate with their team as
well. As much as I hate to admit it, I have 9 slacks open right now. It
can sometimes seem like too much, but it is nice to be able to check
messages in one interface and not 20.

https://slack.com/pricing

The users are not limited in the slack free plan, but it only stores the
last 10k messages. I believe the non-profit license comes with some
support which is why it gets limited. None of the data is stored
encrypted, although the client does use TLS for transport to and from
the server.

I would prefer that everyone use IRC or jabber since you can tie those
into the same client and even use PKI over jabber, but alas, they don't.
Slack is the new way of the world for the time being.

It could also help grow and expand the group by making it more
accessible to those who are not "if it isn't IRC or ICQ, get of my lawn"
type folks.

I would toss my vote for slack for none other than how I have seen it
help other users' groups grow.

Someday - I'll jump on the freenode IRC - I just have to remember which
server and which screen my irssi client live on.

Mac


Michael Butash wrote on 12/31/19 11:57 AM:
> I was looking at this for something else, and thought this might be
> nice for PLUG.  
>
> https://slack.com/help/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits
>
> I use Slack chat a lot with various customers and partners, and it's
> free to nonprofits ala PLUG (I think) if under 250 users.  Not sure
> how many folks are actually joined to PLUG offer that to everyone
> (that would actually participate), but I'd be interested in joining it
> if one existed with the folks that normally participated here.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -mb
>
>
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Re: Slack for PLUG

[Jill Rouleau]

https://www.irccloud.com/

It's a cloud-based irc client/bouncer with a modern web UI and mobile apps.  (A
bouncer is like an irc connection proxy that stores channel and chat logs for
you when your client isn't connected.)  For folks who don't want to or can't run
their own bouncer or just want an easier interface to irc it's a really great
option.  So if you like things like Slack because they're more user-friendly
this is a good client-based alternative that won't lock you into a proprietary
chat solution.  This is usually my go-to client for introducing new f/oss
contributors to irc and I'd definitely feature it prominently in any intro to
irc talk.


-Jill


On 2020-01-04 01:18, Ed wrote:
> Is there a presentation for January?
> I would enjoy learning to IRC at the one PLUG meeting I can make
> before summer...
> 
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:39 AM Michael Butash  wrote:
> >
> > I've had so many services over the past 25 years or so, at this point I
don't do any more than I have to.  I like slack because it's business partners
and customers mostly so professional, and it's pretty universal.  I ran discord
for a bit last year for a game I was playing, but that's about it.  I still use
gvoice/hangouts for all my sms, signal atop that, and that's about it.
> >
> > As Hans said, Plug does have IRC, but of all things IRC is one thing I've
never gotten into using after all these years, or more never had a reason to
continue using.  Perhaps less is more and should though.
> >
> > -mb
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 9:45 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:
> >>
> >> I would be interested in matter most with rocketchat a close second.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 2:54 PM Seabass  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I’d imagine we would want to setup an open-source solution of some kind.
> >>>
> >>> I’d be willing to setup a rocket chat, for example, but I don’t know what
that would take for our audience, not had anyone said anything about wanting
one.
> >>> Nobody expressing interest may also be why it never happened, though.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Message: 6
> >>> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:11:26 -0500
> >>> From: Michael 
> >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list 
> >>> Subject: Re: Slack for PLUG
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> 
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> imagine if we all showed for an installfest!
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:46 PM Brian Cluff  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > We've got almost a thousand on Meetup and almost 500 subscribed to this
mailing list.
> >>> >
> >>> > Brian Cluff
> >>> >
> >>> > On 12/31/19 11:57 AM, Michael Butash wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I was looking at this for something else, and thought this might be nice
for PLUG.
> >>> >
> >>> > https://slack.com/help/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits
> >>> >
> >>> > I use Slack chat a lot with various customers and partners, and it's
free to nonprofits ala PLUG (I think) if under 250 users. Not sure how many
folks are actually joined to PLUG offer that to everyone (that would actually
participate), but I'd be interested in joining it if one existed with the folks
that normally participated here.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thoughts?
> >>> >
> >>> > -mb
> >>> >
> >>> >
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Re: Slack for PLUG

[Thomas Scott]

I also vote for Slack - I love having things self hosted (as i type this
ironically in gmail), but having too many "app(s) [services] for that" also
clashes with my ability to practice the Unix philosophy of "do one thing
well".

I still use google-voice for sms as well. Until mint was definitively the
cheapest pre-purchased mobile service, I could hop whenever it was cheaper
to a new data plan (provider agnostic) and keep my number without any
porting hassles. I also use it to avoid picking up my phone using my
browsers single website mode, coincidentally my texts get a little long
winded .

Thomas Scott
about.me/thomas.scott




On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:18 PM Ed  wrote:

> Is there a presentation for January?
> I would enjoy learning to IRC at the one PLUG meeting I can make
> before summer...
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:39 AM Michael Butash  wrote:
> >
> > I've had so many services over the past 25 years or so, at this point I
> don't do any more than I have to.  I like slack because it's business
> partners and customers mostly so professional, and it's pretty universal.
> I ran discord for a bit last year for a game I was playing, but that's
> about it.  I still use gvoice/hangouts for all my sms, signal atop that,
> and that's about it.
> >
> > As Hans said, Plug does have IRC, but of all things IRC is one thing
> I've never gotten into using after all these years, or more never had a
> reason to continue using.  Perhaps less is more and should though.
> >
> > -mb
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 9:45 PM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would be interested in matter most with rocketchat a close second.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 2:54 PM Seabass  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I’d imagine we would want to setup an open-source solution of some
> kind.
> >>>
> >>> I’d be willing to setup a rocket chat, for example, but I don’t know
> what that would take for our audience, not had anyone said anything about
> wanting one.
> >>> Nobody expressing interest may also be why it never happened, though.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Message: 6
> >>> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:11:26 -0500
> >>> From: Michael 
> >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list 
> >>> Subject: Re: Slack for PLUG
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> 
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> imagine if we all showed for an installfest!
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:46 PM Brian Cluff  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > We've got almost a thousand on Meetup and almost 500 subscribed to
> this mailing list.
> >>> >
> >>> > Brian Cluff
> >>> >
> >>> > On 12/31/19 11:57 AM, Michael Butash wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I was looking at this for something else, and thought this might be
> nice for PLUG.
> >>> >
> >>> > https://slack.com/help/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits
> >>> >
> >>> > I use Slack chat a lot with various customers and partners, and it's
> free to nonprofits ala PLUG (I think) if under 250 users. Not sure how many
> folks are actually joined to PLUG offer that to everyone (that would
> actually participate), but I'd be interested in joining it if one existed
> with the folks that normally participated here.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thoughts?
> >>> >
> >>> > -mb
> >>> >
> >>> >
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Re: Slack for PLUG

[Ed]

Is there a presentation for January?
I would enjoy learning to IRC at the one PLUG meeting I can make
before summer...

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:39 AM Michael Butash  wrote:
>
> I've had so many services over the past 25 years or so, at this point I don't 
> do any more than I have to.  I like slack because it's business partners and 
> customers mostly so professional, and it's pretty universal.  I ran discord 
> for a bit last year for a game I was playing, but that's about it.  I still 
> use gvoice/hangouts for all my sms, signal atop that, and that's about it.
>
> As Hans said, Plug does have IRC, but of all things IRC is one thing I've 
> never gotten into using after all these years, or more never had a reason to 
> continue using.  Perhaps less is more and should though.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 9:45 PM Stephen Partington  
> wrote:
>>
>> I would be interested in matter most with rocketchat a close second.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 2:54 PM Seabass  wrote:
>>>
>>> I’d imagine we would want to setup an open-source solution of some kind.
>>>
>>> I’d be willing to setup a rocket chat, for example, but I don’t know what 
>>> that would take for our audience, not had anyone said anything about 
>>> wanting one.
>>> Nobody expressing interest may also be why it never happened, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:11:26 -0500
>>> From: Michael 
>>> To: Main PLUG discussion list 
>>> Subject: Re: Slack for PLUG
>>> Message-ID:
>>> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> imagine if we all showed for an installfest!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:46 PM Brian Cluff  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We've got almost a thousand on Meetup and almost 500 subscribed to this 
>>> > mailing list.
>>> >
>>> > Brian Cluff
>>> >
>>> > On 12/31/19 11:57 AM, Michael Butash wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I was looking at this for something else, and thought this might be nice 
>>> > for PLUG.
>>> >
>>> > https://slack.com/help/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits
>>> >
>>> > I use Slack chat a lot with various customers and partners, and it's free 
>>> > to nonprofits ala PLUG (I think) if under 250 users. Not sure how many 
>>> > folks are actually joined to PLUG offer that to everyone (that would 
>>> > actually participate), but I'd be interested in joining it if one existed 
>>> > with the folks that normally participated here.
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > -mb
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: Red Hat User Group launch

[Eric Oyen]

Any possibility that I can acquire a ride to that event. I am asking well ahead 
on this because of previous snafu’s with getting any rides to any events.

My location is out in the west valley here.

-Eric
(623)399-5635


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Jill Rouleau  wrote:
> 
> Red Hat is launching a RHUG in Tempe.  The first meetup will be Wed Jan 22 at
> the Main Event in Tempe, with a presentation on Ansible for Security 
> Compliance
> and Incident Response.  (Coincidentally, there will also be an introductory
> presentation on Ansible at PLUG, in February!)
> 
> Hope to see lots of folks from PLUG there.
> https://events.redhat.com/profile/form/index.cfm?PKformID=0x126256abcd
> 
> -Jill
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Re: Red Hat User Group launch

[Snyder, Alexander J]

I mean ... I guess that works too. Just less swords and glory.

Thanks,
Alexander

Sent from my Galaxy S10+

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 16:52 der.hans  wrote:

> Am 03. Jan, 2020 schwätzte Snyder, Alexander J so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> > We must battle for dominance.
>
> Actually, we must cooperate for greatness :).
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
> > Thanks,
> > Alexander
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy S10+
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 16:40 Jill Rouleau 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Red Hat is launching a RHUG in Tempe.  The first meetup will be Wed Jan
> 22
> >> at
> >> the Main Event in Tempe, with a presentation on Ansible for Security
> >> Compliance
> >> and Incident Response.  (Coincidentally, there will also be an
> introductory
> >> presentation on Ansible at PLUG, in February!)
> >>
> >> Hope to see lots of folks from PLUG there.
> >> https://events.redhat.com/profile/form/index.cfm?PKformID=0x126256abcd
> >>
> >> -Jill
> >>
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Re: Red Hat User Group launch

[der.hans]

Am 03. Jan, 2020 schwätzte Snyder, Alexander J so:

moin moin,


We must battle for dominance.


Actually, we must cooperate for greatness :).

ciao,

der.hans


Thanks,
Alexander

Sent from my Galaxy S10+

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 16:40 Jill Rouleau  wrote:


Red Hat is launching a RHUG in Tempe.  The first meetup will be Wed Jan 22
at
the Main Event in Tempe, with a presentation on Ansible for Security
Compliance
and Incident Response.  (Coincidentally, there will also be an introductory
presentation on Ansible at PLUG, in February!)

Hope to see lots of folks from PLUG there.
https://events.redhat.com/profile/form/index.cfm?PKformID=0x126256abcd

-Jill

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Re: Red Hat User Group launch

[Snyder, Alexander J]

We must battle for dominance.

Thanks,
Alexander

Sent from my Galaxy S10+

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 16:40 Jill Rouleau  wrote:

> Red Hat is launching a RHUG in Tempe.  The first meetup will be Wed Jan 22
> at
> the Main Event in Tempe, with a presentation on Ansible for Security
> Compliance
> and Incident Response.  (Coincidentally, there will also be an introductory
> presentation on Ansible at PLUG, in February!)
>
> Hope to see lots of folks from PLUG there.
> https://events.redhat.com/profile/form/index.cfm?PKformID=0x126256abcd
>
> -Jill
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Red Hat User Group launch

[Jill Rouleau]

Red Hat is launching a RHUG in Tempe.  The first meetup will be Wed Jan 22 at
the Main Event in Tempe, with a presentation on Ansible for Security Compliance
and Incident Response.  (Coincidentally, there will also be an introductory
presentation on Ansible at PLUG, in February!)

Hope to see lots of folks from PLUG there.
https://events.redhat.com/profile/form/index.cfm?PKformID=0x126256abcd

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Re: Need Network Engineer for Small Project

[George Toft]

Taking conversation off list.

Regards,

George Toft

On 1/3/2020 8:39 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote:

I can meet with you. What is your availability?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 2, 2020, at 6:57 PM, George Toft  wrote:

Need Network Engineer to consult/guide for a few hours on a small project.

Existing: Three node mesh VPN between three locations.  Been in-place since 
2012.  Recently upgraded VPN devices (Linksys LRT-224's) as a part of the next 
step.  However, the VPN device at one node is not the default gateway for that 
LAN segment - the old device is as it is bound to a public IP address that the 
customer's customers access by IP address and not name.  Added static routes to 
LAN devices to route traffic to the other two nodes via the VPN device.  This 
has been working since September. This doesn't mean we can't reconfigure if we 
have to.

Next Step: Customer wants two ISP connections using different media.  Old ISP 
is Cox Business.  New ISP is CenturyLink.  Have installed new devices at office 
and data center and created second VPN tunnel between these two nodes.  Unable 
to get traffic to reliably use second VPN.  I can get the traffic to go down 
the CenturyLink VPN, but only by configuring the CenturyLink devices with the 
same IP addresses as the Cox devices.  This is OK for an emergency, but not the 
desired end result.

Final step: Get traffic to fail-over from one tunnel to the other when the 
primary VPN fails.  Cox has already notified customer that the cable needs to 
be replaced and there will be several days of downtime, so this is a certainty.

Lots more details to share.  Need to show topology.  If you're with me at this point, 
saying "Uh-huh, George, easy stuff" then please email me.  I'm willing to pay, 
so this will get you some fine craft beer, not that free beer.  I anticipate a 
preliminary meeting to discuss requirements, then some on-site working sessions.

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Re: Slack for PLUG

[Michael Butash]

I've had so many services over the past 25 years or so, at this point I
don't do any more than I have to.  I like slack because it's business
partners and customers mostly so professional, and it's pretty universal.
I ran discord for a bit last year for a game I was playing, but that's
about it.  I still use gvoice/hangouts for all my sms, signal atop that,
and that's about it.

As Hans said, Plug does have IRC, but of all things IRC is one thing I've
never gotten into using after all these years, or more never had a reason
to continue using.  Perhaps less is more and should though.

-mb


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 9:45 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> I would be interested in matter most with rocketchat a close second.
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 2:54 PM Seabass  wrote:
>
>> I’d imagine we would want to setup an open-source solution of some kind.
>>
>> I’d be willing to setup a rocket chat, for example, but I don’t know what
>> that would take for our audience, not had anyone said anything about
>> wanting one.
>> Nobody expressing interest may also be why it never happened, though.
>>
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:11:26 -0500
>> From: Michael 
>> To: Main PLUG discussion list 
>> Subject: Re: Slack for PLUG
>> Message-ID:
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> imagine if we all showed for an installfest!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:46 PM Brian Cluff  wrote:
>> >
>> > We've got almost a thousand on Meetup and almost 500 subscribed to this
>> mailing list.
>> >
>> > Brian Cluff
>> >
>> > On 12/31/19 11:57 AM, Michael Butash wrote:
>> >
>> > I was looking at this for something else, and thought this might be
>> nice for PLUG.
>> >
>> > https://slack.com/help/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits
>> >
>> > I use Slack chat a lot with various customers and partners, and it's
>> free to nonprofits ala PLUG (I think) if under 250 users. Not sure how many
>> folks are actually joined to PLUG offer that to everyone (that would
>> actually participate), but I'd be interested in joining it if one existed
>> with the folks that normally participated here.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > -mb
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Re: Slack for PLUG

[Snyder, Alexander J]

I would also vote for Slack.

I do not prefer RocketChat

Thanks,
Alexander

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On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 21:45 Stephen Partington  wrote:

> I would be interested in matter most with rocketchat a close second.
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 2:54 PM Seabass  wrote:
>
>> I’d imagine we would want to setup an open-source solution of some kind.
>>
>> I’d be willing to setup a rocket chat, for example, but I don’t know what
>> that would take for our audience, not had anyone said anything about
>> wanting one.
>> Nobody expressing interest may also be why it never happened, though.
>>
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:11:26 -0500
>> From: Michael 
>> To: Main PLUG discussion list 
>> Subject: Re: Slack for PLUG
>> Message-ID:
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> imagine if we all showed for an installfest!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:46 PM Brian Cluff  wrote:
>> >
>> > We've got almost a thousand on Meetup and almost 500 subscribed to this
>> mailing list.
>> >
>> > Brian Cluff
>> >
>> > On 12/31/19 11:57 AM, Michael Butash wrote:
>> >
>> > I was looking at this for something else, and thought this might be
>> nice for PLUG.
>> >
>> > https://slack.com/help/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits
>> >
>> > I use Slack chat a lot with various customers and partners, and it's
>> free to nonprofits ala PLUG (I think) if under 250 users. Not sure how many
>> folks are actually joined to PLUG offer that to everyone (that would
>> actually participate), but I'd be interested in joining it if one existed
>> with the folks that normally participated here.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > -mb
>> >
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Re: Need Network Engineer for Small Project

[Herminio Hernandez Jr.]

I can meet with you. What is your availability?

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> On Jan 2, 2020, at 6:57 PM, George Toft  wrote:
> 
> Need Network Engineer to consult/guide for a few hours on a small project.
> 
> Existing: Three node mesh VPN between three locations.  Been in-place since 
> 2012.  Recently upgraded VPN devices (Linksys LRT-224's) as a part of the 
> next step.  However, the VPN device at one node is not the default gateway 
> for that LAN segment - the old device is as it is bound to a public IP 
> address that the customer's customers access by IP address and not name.  
> Added static routes to LAN devices to route traffic to the other two nodes 
> via the VPN device.  This has been working since September. This doesn't mean 
> we can't reconfigure if we have to.
> 
> Next Step: Customer wants two ISP connections using different media.  Old ISP 
> is Cox Business.  New ISP is CenturyLink.  Have installed new devices at 
> office and data center and created second VPN tunnel between these two nodes. 
>  Unable to get traffic to reliably use second VPN.  I can get the traffic to 
> go down the CenturyLink VPN, but only by configuring the CenturyLink devices 
> with the same IP addresses as the Cox devices.  This is OK for an emergency, 
> but not the desired end result.
> 
> Final step: Get traffic to fail-over from one tunnel to the other when the 
> primary VPN fails.  Cox has already notified customer that the cable needs to 
> be replaced and there will be several days of downtime, so this is a 
> certainty.
> 
> Lots more details to share.  Need to show topology.  If you're with me at 
> this point, saying "Uh-huh, George, easy stuff" then please email me.  I'm 
> willing to pay, so this will get you some fine craft beer, not that free 
> beer.  I anticipate a preliminary meeting to discuss requirements, then some 
> on-site working sessions.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> George Toft
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