Re: $PATH question
Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.comwrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
Sean, when it is not working (I have not run .profile manually), it prints killsol.sh: command not found as expected. When I have run .profile manually, it executes properly and the is no cli output as I designed. james, i get /bin/bash as my shell kitepilot, I get bash On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Or: echo $0 ET James Mcphee writes: dash uses /etc/profile, ~/.profile, and $ENV (if available). grep your username from /etc/passwd to find your shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com
Re: $PATH question
Sean, as stated before, I do have a bashrc and it is being adhered to by the system. There IS NO OUTPUT from killsol.sh. It is designed to kill a process if it exists and do so silently whether the process exists or not. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? Also do you have a .bashrc? If not try renaming your .profile to .bashrc. On Feb 27, 2014 3:48 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, when it is not working (I have not run .profile manually), it prints killsol.sh: command not found as expected. When I have run .profile manually, it executes properly and the is no cli output as I designed. james, i get /bin/bash as my shell kitepilot, I get bash On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Or: echo $0 ET James Mcphee writes: dash uses /etc/profile, ~/.profile, and $ENV (if available). grep your username from /etc/passwd to find your shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: No, we want the output of : which killsol.sh which tells you where killsol.sh is in your path. And by doesn't work I mean when it is apparently not found in your path. I want to see what which says when your shell does not run killsol.sh by itself. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sean, there is no output from killsol.sh. It either kills the desired process or does nothing. And it DOES work when it actually gets run. Nathan, .profile actually checks to see if the is a .bashrc and if so, runs it so putting in what you suggest would create an infinite loop. BUT, you gave me a clue. I think ubuntu actually uses dash for the login shell though bash is the default user shell. THAT may be why .profile does not get run for the login shell. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.com wrote: I know different shells source different files when started, I'm curious to know which shell you are using. (konsole, gnome-terminal, ...) If it works after sourcing your .profile then I would bet you need to have a .bashrc file with a line that says source ~/.profile. Like Kitepilot, I too am curious to know what which foo.sh or whereis foo.sh tells us. On 2/27/2014 8:24 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Prior to mu sourcing .profile, those commands showed nothing. Once I ran . .profile, I get what I expected: larry@hammerhead:~$ which killsol.sh /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ type killsol.sh killsol.sh is /home/larry/bin/killsol.sh larry@hammerhead:~$ so the question really comes down to why is .profile not being run on login (I already said I do not have the two files which might prevent it). This is Ubuntu 12.04 BTW. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:50 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Pls show the output of: which foo.sh or type foo.sh ET Dazed_75 writes: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send
Re: $PATH question
You guys need to read the thread which already shows the output of which and type. Let's just drop the whole subject as all we are getting is repeats of the same questions. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:00 PM, KevinO ke...@kevino.org wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:55 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: Sean, as stated before, I do have a bashrc and it is being adhered to by the system. There IS NO OUTPUT from killsol.sh. It is designed to kill a process if it exists and do so silently whether the process exists or not. Larry, Sean is asking for the output of the 'which' command, when it is passed the string 'killsol.sh' as an argument. You need to look at what he is asking you to type more closely. ie: $ which killsol.sh re: man which On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, sean sean.a.ritz...@gmail.com wrote: So, again, what is the output of which killsol.sh? A HTH -- KevinO --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
$PATH question
I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
I don't remember as I did it long ago. but when I type echo $PATH, what I get is: /home/larry/bin:/opt/OpenPrinting-Gutenprint/sbin:/opt/OpenPrinting-Gutenprint/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games does that mean I did? or if I need to export it, when and how often is it needed? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Carl Parrish cparr...@carlparrish.comwrote: Did you export? On Feb 26, 2014 8:18 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $PATH question
The shell file IS marked executable. I do not have a ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login I DO have a ~/.profile but it appears not to have run at login because if I do run it manually in a command shell, suddenly the path to my ~/bin does work and the foo.sh works properly. Still puzzled. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Nathan England plug-disc...@nmecs.comwrote: I would guess the file is not executable. chmod +x ~/bin/foo.sh On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 09:18:31 PM Dazed_75 wrote: I thought $PATH contained the series of paths searched to find an executable file by the name specified on the command line. Specifically if my $ENV contains a $PATH which reads: /home/larry/bin:more paths that an executable file like foo.sh found in /home/larry/bin/ could be run by simply typing foo.sh on the command line. What am I doing wrong as it does not work though it does if I type ./bin/foo.sh while in /home/larry/? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: [OT] OpenShot Video editor
Cool! Thanks Phil On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Phil Waclawski phil.waclaw...@mesacc.eduwrote: He said that the source code will probably be on the repository first, and it should be available within a month. Hope that helps Phil W. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Phil, Brian and Hans. I am not overly hopeful but sure wold like to test it while I am able. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Phil Waclawski phil.waclaw...@mesacc.edu wrote: I was just chatting with him about an hour ago, he was talking about the next version and now it will be a lot more stable as it will not require the mtl (?) libraries anymore, and how it should be available on Linux, Mac and Windows. I'll try to drop by after this talk on OpenStack and see if he remembers you and when he has the source available for you Phil Waclawski On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: I was not able to attend SCALE this year. But I have always made a point to stop and talk with Jonathon Thomas about OpenShot and have been anxiously awaiting version 2. I know he is obligated to release to his Kickstarter supporters first, but I wonder if one of you attendees could stop at his booth or attend his talk for me. I don't know if he will remember me unless you have my pic handy, but my main question is if he has an update on when I might be able to get a running copy or access to compilable source. I would dearly love to try it out in Linux and provide some feedback. I could also try it in Windows 7 but would need an installer/executable for that. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
[OT] OpenShot Video editor
I was not able to attend SCALE this year. But I have always made a point to stop and talk with Jonathon Thomas about OpenShot and have been anxiously awaiting version 2. I know he is obligated to release to his Kickstarter supporters first, but I wonder if one of you attendees could stop at his booth or attend his talk for me. I don't know if he will remember me unless you have my pic handy, but my main question is if he has an update on when I might be able to get a running copy or access to compilable source. I would dearly love to try it out in Linux and provide some feedback. I could also try it in Windows 7 but would need an installer/executable for that. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: [OT] OpenShot Video editor
Thank you Phil, Brian and Hans. I am not overly hopeful but sure wold like to test it while I am able. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Phil Waclawski phil.waclaw...@mesacc.eduwrote: I was just chatting with him about an hour ago, he was talking about the next version and now it will be a lot more stable as it will not require the mtl (?) libraries anymore, and how it should be available on Linux, Mac and Windows. I'll try to drop by after this talk on OpenStack and see if he remembers you and when he has the source available for you Phil Waclawski On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: I was not able to attend SCALE this year. But I have always made a point to stop and talk with Jonathon Thomas about OpenShot and have been anxiously awaiting version 2. I know he is obligated to release to his Kickstarter supporters first, but I wonder if one of you attendees could stop at his booth or attend his talk for me. I don't know if he will remember me unless you have my pic handy, but my main question is if he has an update on when I might be able to get a running copy or access to compilable source. I would dearly love to try it out in Linux and provide some feedback. I could also try it in Windows 7 but would need an installer/executable for that. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
any ideas how to opt out of all this c$%^P google is tossing
at us with no explanation? I am about ready to destroy evey oomputer I have ever owned, -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: (OT) I urge everyone to oppose TPP
No. As described in the article, this negotiation is being conducted behind closed doors. We only know about it through leaked documents.'' http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/8/5190600/wikileaks-releases-new-documents-exposing-secret-trans-pacific Perhaps you can track them down, I do not choose to try. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote: Can you tell us who is the author of the legislation and who has signed on as supporters? and the id#? At 02:31 PM 1/29/2014, Dazed_75 wrote: * https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/as-free-software-users-we-need-to-speak-out-against-the-tpp https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/as-free-software-users-we-need-to-speak-out-against-the-tpp .* -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirushttp://www.avast.com/protection is active. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
(OT) I urge everyone to oppose TPP
*https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/as-free-software-users-we-need-to-speak-out-against-the-tpp https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/as-free-software-users-we-need-to-speak-out-against-the-tpp.* -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: update and package manager problems
Just go into your software sources like you did to make http://www.upquick.com/temp/sources.jpg and uncheck the box for medibuntu which does not exist anymore. Then refresh and try updates again. On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:07 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: More often than not, Linux updates give me no end of problems. My system is Mint 13 Forgot to include these screen shots: http://www.upquick.com/temp/synapticbroke.jpg http://www.upquick.com/temp/sources.jpg http://www.upquick.com/temp/preferences.jpg --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ff buttons, menus, etc. don't work
I just had a problem with Firefox 26 (which was upgraded in the last few days) on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. Not the same as yours though and you did not say what version of FF. In my case I went to start firefox which I had run last night AND exited normally but Ubuntu said it was already running and I would need to exit that first before running another (weird huh?). There did not appear to be one on any workspace and the Unity launcher was not indicating one. Normally, even if there was one, there would be a pip showing on the launcher and clicking on it would just take me to the open application. However, ps showed a firefox process running so I killed it and the Firefox could be opened and seems to run normally. Makes me wonder is there is some memory leak causing these problems. Not like they don't have some history of leaks. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:29 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, menu items are no longer working for me with Firefox. This includes in page items as well as file, dit, view, etc. and also add-ons with buttons at the bottom and top. Everything. Browsing still works as long as I don't need a menu. Trying html drop downs results in the following error: (iceweasel:9467): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_window_peek_children: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed iceweasel on debian stable with KDE. Tried safe-mode and still didn't work. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Im Zweifelsfall wähle das am interessantesten. -- der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ff buttons, menus, etc. don't work
Except Hans is runnin debian stable with KDE so no Unity. Maybe what you say can cause my problem too but my problem had nothing to do with menus. I was only suggesting a possibility of related causes because he may also be running Firefox 26 On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: I've had this happen in the past. I comes from having a little unity pollution on your system causing unity's global menu system to snag the menu bars off of GTK based apps but with nowhere to display them, they are just missing. If I remember right, removing these packages will restore your menus: unity-gtk-module-common unity-gtk2-module unity-gtk3-module Brian Cluff On 12/22/2013 01:29 AM, der.hans wrote: moin moin, menu items are no longer working for me with Firefox. This includes in page items as well as file, dit, view, etc. and also add-ons with buttons at the bottom and top. Everything. Browsing still works as long as I don't need a menu. Trying html drop downs results in the following error: (iceweasel:9467): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_window_peek_children: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed iceweasel on debian stable with KDE. Tried safe-mode and still didn't work. ciao, der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: (OT) Router with DD-WRT Fails on Reboot
You might have to try a Hard reset back to default setup and then reconfigure what you need. Do a web search for ASUS RT-N16 hard reset to find instructions. But here are some questions for you too: Are you using a wired ethernet connection to the router? If something changed, a wireless connection might fail. Is your computer getting an IP address from the router via DHCP? Has your IP changed as in maybe you accidentally changed the router's address and DHCP range. Are you normally addressing the router by IP or by name? On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: My ASUS RT-N16 running DD-WRT router has been working great since April. I made two changes this morning and then rebooted the router. It did not come back. The web page will not load, and I cannot even ping the router (no route to host). The changes were: 1. Enabled USB support for an external hard drive 2. Enabled SSHd with a public key I have rebooted the router in the past (ie before I made these changes) and the router always came back. I then removed power from the router for a minute and reconnected power, and it still does not respond to pings or web page access. I also tried connecting the USB drive, thinking it might need the drive to mount, and still no joy. Short of wiping out all my settings, is there a way to get back into the router and remove these changes? And how do I find out the cause of the problem? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Steam OS was released for all you gamers out there
Actually the installer works as well as always EXCEPT in the presence of UEFI and Secure Boot. They also seem to get in the way of installing from flash drive. But since flash drives are sometimes seen by BIOS/UEFI as USB Hard drives, USB CDs, USB ?devices, etc you now have to look further into Boot Order/Prioriy settings and sometimes they are disabled for booting. I have also been fighting an issue similar to yours. It appears my problem is the computer I am working on came from Lenovo with BIOS/UEFI RAID0 turned on and I have found no way to get rid of it and still be able to reinstall the OEM installed Windows 8 for the woman. That is a problem since Ubuntu (and likely Linux in general) does not see the FAKE raid0 but rather two innaccessible drives. The only thing I got to work was to turn off the RAID, install Win8 from a real install disk and then install Ubuntu from a CD rather than a flash drive (unless the BIOS/UEFI excluded USB CD is how it sees my flash drive). I know the alt CD was removed because its primary use was (upgrades) was taken over by the install CDs. Even running the Installfests, I have not missed the alt CDs. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: I'm curious to see if it's as broken as ubuntu seems to be these days - feedback from adopters here appreciated. I spent 3 days last week trying to get ubuntu working with 13.10 on a fresh install, and since they're forcing use of a desktop cd, and not producing alt installs now, found the install process to be entirely broken. A new laptop with only EFI boot apparently leaves me few options for distributions, namely excluding debian which I was going to attempt to migrate to avoid ubuntu's steady decline in quality/stability. Hopefully Valve heads this off using the Ubuntu/Debian base. I spent the weekend attempting to abandon Ubuntu and learning Arch (or trying to) after the ubuntu fail, which wasn't exactly easy, and simply finding just about every step requires some extensive research of packages, lack of automagical setup, and sadly most any ease found in Ubuntu I've apparently taken for granted. Not to mention I'm not finding pacman packages for most things I need/want (doubt Steam is going to be supported on Arch anytime soon). Maybe Valve injecting their two bits around Debian too will help that, but I doubt it'll support more enterprise-y features like raid, encryption, and lvm as part of the install features I need. Then again, I wish Ubuntu would just put it back said features or produce an alt cd again including them natively until someone fixes their broken desktop installer. -mb On 12/16/2013 08:40 AM, Shawn Badger wrote: I don't know how this hasn't made it to the list yet, but Steam released their Debian based gaming OS. Here is a link to download it http://repo.steamstatic.com/download/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Steam OS was released for all you gamers out there
Aye, but the worse thing is I am seeing a few that are OEM installed to use FAKE Raid0. That is so bad that they may as well say Wipe this machine when you get it On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 06:22:08PM -0700, Michael Butash wrote: An Asus UX51Vz - no legacy boot option at all, pure EFI/GPT sadly. Holy crap. I didn't know those were out there. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Burning CentOs 6.4 ISO
Keith, I realize you probably know these things but since you were not specific about what you did, I will throw them out: How did you create it in Windows? You cannot just copy the iso to the dvd. Windows 7 is the first Windows to understand burning an ISO. Before that you had to use a 3rd party application. On Windows 7 you should be able to right click on the .iso file and make the appropriate selection. The next thing is how did you try booting from the DVD? Did you set your BIOS to boot from the CD/DVD drive before the hard drive? If not you would very likely have to press a key during boot up to enter a Boot Menu. That key differs by manufacturer but is commonly F12 (or F11, F9, F8, ESC, or TAB). On some Lenovos it is the blue Thinksomething key. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:26 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I am having some difficulty booting from a CentOS 6.4 DVD. I went here : http://yum.phx.singlehop.com/centos/6.4/isos/i386/ And I selected CentOS-6.4-i386-bin-DVD1.iso and it was copied to my hard drive. I then used windows to create the disk. I have done this several times. The image appears to have been created however the disk is not bootable. I can see the files on the disk. I've tried using it to boot my laptop and my desktop. I know I have done this in the past and was able to boot from prior versions using a DVD image. The root directory of the DVD contains: /images/ /isolinux/ /Packages/ /repodata/ .discinfo .treeinfo CentOS_BuildTag EULA GPL RELEASE-NOTES-en-US.HTML RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-6 RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-Debug-6 RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-Security-6 RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-Testing-6 TRANS.TBL Does not look bootable to me. I've looked for some notes and have not found any on the CentOS website. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I just did
Thats why I have ALWAYS used compressed air and never had a problem. People DO say to only blow out fans by preventing the blade from spinning (potentially backward and/or too fast). On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: you'd need a mighty strong vacuum to get the dust off of the cpu with the fan on it. how in the world are you going to get the dust out of the power unit with a vacuum? What about the dust under parts that protrude from the case and give you npo room to get a vacuum in there? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 06:51:33PM -0700, Dazed_75 wrote: Except that vacuuming with an appliance not MADE to be anti-static can be harmful to sensitive electronic components. Any way to tell, other than contacting the mfgr and receiving misleading, self serving answers? -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I just did
Except that vacuuming with an appliance not MADE to be anti-static can be harmful to sensitive electronic components. On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 12:15:48PM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: Well, I just bought a hand compressed air thingb (so I do not have to constantly buy compressed air) and I turned off the tv computer, took the lid off, and squeezed my goodness, a cloud of dust erupted. I do not think it had been blown ever. Then I put it into the fan to blow the CPU everytime I squeezed more and more dust came out. Now I fear that because I was nice to it the computer will rebel and break. :-)~MIKE~(-: If you are interested it is a Giottos AA1900 Rocket Air Blaster Large http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00017LSPI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8psc=1 bought from amazon for a total of around 14 dollars. From what I've read, vacuuming is generally recommended over compressed air. With compressed air, dust and dirt can be forced deeper into the works. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: weird things are happening.....
Probably a dirty/sticky keyboard. The is lots of advice on-line about how to clean them (and how NOT to). On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: when I hit the '4' key sometimes it will register the key and sometimes I need to press it multiple times to get the character. then yesterday the '9' started missing. Is this a bug or is my laptop messing up? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: FILE RECOVERY SOFTWARE?
Mike, we need some information to understand the question. Is this a totally wiped drive, one with some problems, or just deleted files that you are asking about. Tell us you motivation so people can give valid and appropriate answers (other than restore from your backups). On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM, mike Enriquez myli...@cox.net wrote: Does anyone know of software used to recover files in Linux and Winlow systems. I am looking for software that will work on both operating systems. Thanks for any help. Mike Enriquez --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: FILE RECOVERY SOFTWARE?(more info)
Pulling the cord is, of course, a bad idea. But seldom does it cause the drive to lose partition information unless you were re-partitioning it when the plug was pulled. Certainly it is possible. But the more likely situation is that any file in the process of being written is likely corrupted. Less true for Linux if you were using journalling file system (e.g. ext4). The real question that needs to be looked at is what specifically is actually damaged. I would start by loading a live CD/USB of something like ubuntu. Then the Disk Utility can look at the disk and tell you how it is partitioned and what the SMART data is for the drive. To look for file corruption you could use fsck (file system check) but I can't tell you from here how to use it. You could also download Spinrite from grc.com. That is a well known program that boots FreeDOS from the CD and tries very hard to recover from disk problems. An oldie but a goodie. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:46 PM, mike Enriquez myli...@cox.net wrote: I have a raw hard drive. It is a windows machine but I also have some Linux Computers. It appears that if you pull the electrical plug from your computer, it could cause your hard drive to lose hard drive partition information. I am not sure if the same can happen to a Linux computer, so I want to find what is available just in case my files disappear on my Linux machines. My research has found that some software claims to be able to solve lost file problems on both windows and Linux computers. I have no idea how good these application are? Recovering deleted files is also of interest to me. Thanks Mike Enriquez On 10/10/2013 3:56 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: Mike, we need some information to understand the question. Is this a totally wiped drive, one with some problems, or just deleted files that you are asking about. Tell us you motivation so people can give valid and appropriate answers (other than restore from your backups). On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM, mike Enriquez myli...@cox.net wrote: Does anyone know of software used to recover files in Linux and Winlow systems. I am looking for software that will work on both operating systems. Thanks for any help. Mike Enriquez --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rotate screen
Stand on your head! Actually, if you want anyone to answer, it would help if you told people how you did what you did. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I rotated me screen upside down and can not undo it. How do I put it back? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: replacement for red 7?
Of course. I was answering the question as it was asked: to remove Win8 and install Win7 before adding Linux. If all you wanted was to add Linux to the existing Windows, the answer would have been different and simpler. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Patrick Fleming p...@rwcinc.net wrote: An easy install from Windows: https://wiki.debian.org/LennyIllustratedInstall#win32-loader I bought a surplus desktop machine and ran this... it was so easy it almost scared me. On 09/27/2013 08:30 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:37:37AM -0700, Adam McCullough wrote: Almost every error, crash, problem, or compile problem I've come across has had at least some discussion of it, often including a solution. If not, you're already on the plug mailing list, so you have a wealth of people here willing to help you out, provide expertise, advice, and try to search for a solution yourself. They're at least as good as what you'll find at Red Seven or other places. Newegg, Frys, and other places are good sources of replacements/upgrades if the problem is in the hardware. That's why, even though I liked the concept of a linux support store, I never had reason to be a customer. Any problem they could fix was either one I could already fix myself (with plenty of googling and trial and error), or one I couldn't afford to fix myself, much less hire someone else to do the same thing (hardware errors). What you're talking about has very little to do with what I'm looking for. There is no problem, let alone a hardware problem. I simply don't have the time to the research right now, so I need someone to wipe the drive and install w7 for her. Later, if I can convince her to abandon M$ completely, I can probably wipe the drive and install debian or more probably ubuntu with xfce. From what I can see, the bios, or whatever passes for one, has no provision to boot off a cd or dvd. That means doing the whole operation off of a flash drive. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Is LibreOffice *THAT* bad? :(
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Re: Is LibreOffice *THAT* bad? :(
Sounds like you missed doing the sudo apt-get update before the install so although the PPA was in the sources list, the local listing of what what is in the repositories had not been updated On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I just added the repository (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-1) (4.1.1 is the most current ppa) and tried to install it (sudo apt-get install libreoffice) and the response is that libreoffice is already the newest version. (libreoffice 3.6.2.2) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: There are many articles about how to get more up to date versions of almost any software than you distribution carries in its official repositories. LibreOffice is no different. One can download it directly from the LibreOffice site or you can add a PPA to your software sources. There are a few low risk drawbacks to doing so but they are minimal for a major piece of software. Just look at the LibreOffice.org site to see what the latest version is or Google the question. But you could first check what the Software center is offering because you 3.6? version is definitely old. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: Is there a way to get synaptic or apt to install a more recent version? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: If you are seeing that, I would encourage you to upgrade. That is some basic functionality that is not working for you. I've never seen such a basic bug before. Brian On 09/27/2013 02:52 PM, Michael Havens wrote: 3.6.2.2 If I remember correctly it happens sporadically. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: What version are you using, because I definitely can't reproduce that. If I delete any of the cells, the answer is correct. Brian On 09/27/2013 12:53 PM, Michael Havens wrote: here is a good example... I found if I delete cells that functions are performed on (cell1+cell2=cell3) the total isn't recalculated (cell3 isn't right). :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Paul Mooring p...@opscode.com mailto:p...@opscode.com mailto:p...@opscode.com mailto:p...@opscode.com wrote: I'm not really much of an office suite user, but my experience and the feedback I've heard has always been yes it is bad compared to MS Office. I think Libre/Open office covers 90% of use cases and is more than capable of handling what most users need, however it's interface isn't nearly as good, it lacks the vbscript macros the rest of the world uses, it's charting/graphs don't look as nice and formatting comes out mangled when excel users open it (or when you open an xlsx). Microsoft has invested a lot of time, money and energy into getting Excel just right and it really is a great (if not their best) product. The heavy excel users I know that don't run Windows keep a Win7 VM around for Office/Excel use. As a side note I think one thing that the Linux/FLOSS community is very bad at is learning from what others get right. You might not like Microsoft but to claim their popularity was in no way due to making some good products is disingenuous at best. If people genuinely care about increasing Linux desktop usage (which is not of any particular interest to me personally) the right questions to ask are about what MS and Apple get right rather than what they get wrong. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com kitepi...@kitepilot.com mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.__**com mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: So I talked my brother into ditching Micro$haft and moving to Linux. Bd idea... The man uses Excel *HEAVILY*, and LibreOffice just could not keep up. But it was not lack of features or limitations, it was *STUPID* (but dangerous) things like cells not showing the real value and/or recalculating wrong. I didn't take his word for it, he showed me the (unbelievable) problems (I could not believe what I was seeing). The guy is back to Excel... What am
Re: Moodle
Thanks to you as well for getting it going back then and for your assistance today. You are certainly welcome any time you would like to stop by. I only wish we had found more time to chat. FYI, there are a few of us who often go to dinner afterwards if you are interested in that. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Kaoru Wilbur m.kaoru.wil...@gmail.comwrote: Nice seeing all of you today. Well, I wanted to do a little research going back to the beginning installfest. Actually, and this is really interesting history- It was September 2003! Yes. It was 10 years ago this month! The person we helped organize the installfest with was George Gambill. Myself and Rares Marian worked with him in organizing the event and assisted users on the Debian installations. Good times! There was great turn out today. A lot of great work you are doing! Here's to another 10 years On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Kaoru Wilbur m.kaoru.wil...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I don't know that I can make it out so here are some suggestions: If it is Ubuntu then that is easy going, really, seriously - I even tried a local install tonight to test it out. Install Ubuntu Depending on machine all will go well with wireless (had some issues with HP/Compaq Broadcom in the past) Check out these instructions on Moodle - really makes it smooth. http://docs.moodle.org/20/en/Step-by-step_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu open a terminal install tasksel if you don't have it install lamp (wow, that was so easy... enter passwords, you know the routine) sudo tasksel install lamp-server install moodle sudo apt-get install moodle Seriously, no dependency issues, nothing. Really clean on this end. Now for the fun part - go to localhost/moodle Did you get a 404? I have gotten this... Easy fix with a link cd /var/www;sudo ln -s /usr/share/moodle Now try it – Yeah! Works! or should! Follow the instructions. Don't worry if you get 1 or 2 yellows... Greens are awesome! Select email display, town, basic info. *** Don't forget the admin pwd because otherwise you/he will have some fun in MySQL to look forward to in the future to reset that. Enter the Front settings and wow! There it is! MOODLE! Yeah Now the fun part – don't know if he wants this done tomorrow because this is actually the “really” fun stuff. Site Administration Add users, courses, etc... Works with SCORM Compliant courses. Paypal or other payment methods. Some work here - Setup IPN in Paypal. Setup enrolments in Moodle. Setup enrolment price in course in Moodle once the course is added. Change appearance – all these are really fun and can take time depending on what configurations are requested/required. You might catch me on Skype at aicra_ if you have any issues and I'm awake! Sorry but sometimes, I don't sleep on a normal schedule. (more or less pass out after trying to keep eyes open) Also, Dave (?) can always contact me via skype or email with any future questions if I don't make it. Marcia --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Moodle
I guess that is all a matter of perspective Brian. :) On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: Don't you mean that after you get done installing Linux you like to install food? Brian On 09/22/2013 10:42 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: FYI, there are a few of us who often go to dinner afterwards if you are interested in that. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Moodle
Your help would be greatly appreciated. David said he could be there all day so I told him to be there at 10 AM. Hopefully you can be there not long after that. Thank you! On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Kaoru Wilbur m.kaoru.wil...@gmail.comwrote: Do you know what time the person will be there? Tempe is a bit far from me but I would like to help. If you guys have this covered then fantastic! Let me know if you need me. My moodle instance is found at www.faqlinux.com/moodle Mostly my tinkering around basically. Moodle installation and configuration is not much trouble really. Can be somewhat time consuming. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Kaoru Wilbur m.kaoru.wil...@gmail.comwrote: I can do it. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: I have someone coming to the installfest Saturday who wants help installing Moodle. The article he referred to was for installing it on CentOS6 but he did not say that was his OS so I just asked him to clarify. I also asked him what part of the day he would be there. Anyway, I would like to find someone who has installed Moodle to come help him. Any volunteers? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Moodle
That's more than I know and no one else has yet responded. I noticed on the article for installing it on CentOS6 they say to install a LAMP server first. On the Ubuntu Software Center for Moodle, they mention an add-on for MySQL. Let's hope someone with more experience with it responds, but if not would you be willing to help Saturday? The user says he can be there all day. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Walter Mack wm...@componentsw.com wrote: Larry, I did install this (on ubuntu 13.04). Its available under apt-get (I believe). I also diddled around with setting up things. That's the extend to which I can help out... On 09/19/2013 07:58 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: I have someone coming to the installfest Saturday who wants help installing Moodle. The article he referred to was for installing it on CentOS6 but he did not say that was his OS so I just asked him to clarify. I also asked him what part of the day he would be there. Anyway, I would like to find someone who has installed Moodle to come help him. Any volunteers? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Room Change confirmed
The Installfest has been approved to use room 245 at UAT (instead of 208) for the remainder of this semester. If you go up the steps, when you get to the second floor go straight ahead with a little jag to your right and room 245 is at the end of that short hallway. If you take the elevator, take two right turns and go down that same hallway. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Why is odt word count less than text?
Not the same results I get so I would have to ask how you are doing it with examples and tell us if you are measuring all with the same tool. For example, Here are the wc counts for a text file I created, imported into Libre Office, then saved as an odt and as a doc file and finally re-saved as a txt file (the one with the 2 appended. larry@hammerhead:~/Documents/Misc$ wc Ed* 8 306 19456 Edmund Prescott Thiel.doc 80 324 17242 Edmund Prescott Thiel.odt 24 168 974 Edmund Prescott Thiel.txt 24 168 961 Edmund Prescott Thiel2.txt 136 966 38633 total On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:22 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Why is it that when I import a text file into libre office and then export the same text as an .odt document, the resulting document has a smaller word count and smaller character count than the original text file has? Then if I save the same .odt document as a .txt file, the resulting .txt file is bigger than the .odt file (actually almost the same size as the original text file). --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Display feedback while typing password in terminal.
Why is it not seeing my typing? is one of the most frequest questions I get from newbies though. Makes me wonder if it would break anything for anyone if it were changes upstream to echo each input character with an asterisk. Any ideas if it would? Would it make a difference if passwd or getpass() were changed Would it be a security issue in any way? On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Thanks Brian, i was hoping it wouldn't be that deep of a change, I think my users will just have to get used to it since I'm not thinking it a big enough problem to change the app. It is always good to be able to have the choice to though :) On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: I was just reading though the source for passwd and it looks like there isn't a way to do it without rewriting parts of passwd to not use the getpass function, or rewriting getpass itself if you want everything to output the stars. The getpass() function opens /dev/tty (the controlling terminal of the process), outputs the string prompt, turns off echoing, reads one line (the password), restores the terminal state and closes /dev/tty again. Brian Cluff On 09/06/2013 08:13 AM, Shawn Badger wrote: Thanks Larry!! I have found several articles on how to do form within sudo, but nothing on how to get passwd or bash to do it so far. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com mailto:lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Oops! I misread your question. That was for the part you already know. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com mailto:lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.maketecheasier.com/**quick-tips/show-password-** asterisks-in-terminalhttp://www.maketecheasier.com/quick-tips/show-password-asterisks-in-terminal worked for me :) On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro mailto:sh...@badger.pro wrote: I have how to display password feed back while using sudo, but Google has failed me on how to display feedback while running passwd in a terminal session. Does anyone know if the pwfeedback environment setting works outside of sudoers file or an equivalent setting for the passwd command? --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.** org PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**phxlinux.orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**phxlinux.orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send
Re: Display feedback while typing password in terminal.
http://www.maketecheasier.com/quick-tips/show-password-asterisks-in-terminal worked for me :) On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: I have how to display password feed back while using sudo, but Google has failed me on how to display feedback while running passwd in a terminal session. Does anyone know if the pwfeedback environment setting works outside of sudoers file or an equivalent setting for the passwd command? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Display feedback while typing password in terminal.
Oops! I misread your question. That was for the part you already know. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.maketecheasier.com/quick-tips/show-password-asterisks-in-terminal worked for me :) On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: I have how to display password feed back while using sudo, but Google has failed me on how to display feedback while running passwd in a terminal session. Does anyone know if the pwfeedback environment setting works outside of sudoers file or an equivalent setting for the passwd command? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: First Job
try man -P cat man where you are looking at the man page for man. Maybe you can feed that to a braille reader if you need to do more. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:40 PM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: there is still the problem of the one line at the bottom of the terminal window that doesn't move. it causes the cursor on my braille sense U2 to end there instead of reading the rest of the page beyond that point without manually scrolling up and back with the arrow keys on a regular keyboard. I have also encountered this issue when reading long text files using more or less. -eric On Aug 27, 2013, at 4:16 PM, JD Austin wrote: You can change the man pager with the man -P command directive. eg: man -P more less Find a file reader in linux you like better and then alias it to man: alias man='man -P more' On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:07 PM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: such ideas are often born of necessity. In my case, I need to be able to read man pages and they don't quite read right with a screen reader. -eric --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: bios bugs
1st thing to do is check if your BIOS is current. If it is not, look for a release notes for the newer version and maybe a bug list for your current version. Hopefully someone else has already done the research for you. This article is more about memory upgrades but it contains information about how to find what you want to know: http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=bph03886lang=encc=uscontentType=SupportFAQprodSeriesId=5187028 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.comwrote: Is there a way to find bugs in the bios of this beast? HP Pavilion p6-2003w Thanks -- I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual. Patrick Moore --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Phones With Carrier IQ Spyware Installed
Carrier IQ is old news, but the current state of the investigation was news to me (except for it being slower than molasses in a North Dakota winter). On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote: Were you aware of this? http://tinyurl.com/cmchqf8 --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Naked PC or laptop
They did but appear to be closed. On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smarth.comwrote: Is red 7 still around? I could have sworn that they made Linux machines.* *** ** ** ** ** On Aug 14, 2013 9:32 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anyone who sells computers without an operating system? Sooner or later I'll buy another one and I don't want to pay for a Windows license I'll never use. Also is there anyone selling computers with linux installed? If so which distro? If all else fails, I'll just buy the parts and build one. However that might prove difficult if I wanted a laptop. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Naked PC or laptop
Personally, I like https://www.system76.com/ . They really do seem to make sure everything is Linux ready even if you want to replace the Ubuntu they install with some other Linux. As far as buying a pre-built machine with no OS, I know there were a couple of places but I do not remember who. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Phil Waclawski phil.waclaw...@mesacc.eduwrote: http://zareason.com/shop/home.php will let you really configure a laptop how you want it, and can leave it bare, or install the OS of your choice (I had them use Kubuntu). Little pricey, but nice hardware choices, and pretty durable too. Phil W. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.comwrote: Is there anyone who sells computers without an operating system? Sooner or later I'll buy another one and I don't want to pay for a Windows license I'll never use. Also is there anyone selling computers with linux installed? If so which distro? If all else fails, I'll just buy the parts and build one. However that might prove difficult if I wanted a laptop. -- I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual. Patrick Moore --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: wget in the news
Government allows and uses a lot of Open Source Software. If there is an actual reason, it is more likely to be its extreme versatility to be able to download a LOT of files without foreknowledge of what will be downloaded. BTW, wget is available for virtually all platforms. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: the reason it is banned is probably because it is open source. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, Eric. It makes no sense whatever. The judge should be reviewed. That said, did the guy download wget knowing it was banned? Why should it be banned? maybe there is/was a reason but I don't know what it might be. On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: bummer: I thought it was going to br a positive story. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/30/the-free-web-program-that-got-bradley-manning-convicted-of-computer-fraud/ opinionthis is insanity at its best/opinion Eric --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: spare mousepads
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:09 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 04. Aug, 2013 schwätzte Dazed_75 so: Better yet, if he is a teacher wanting them for his class, have him or a school rep contact http://azstrut.org/ and request however many optical mice he needs for class. When I volunteered there we always have a large bin full. Probably won't cost him more than writing a requisition and a drive down there. I will bring that up with him. The drive will cost more than $1/each for mousepads :), but I could possibly pick them up on the way to PLUG or Stammtisch. They may have optical mice he could use, but AZstrut does not save mouse pads (or at least we never did when I volunteered there). ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Hope has two beautiful daughters: Anger and Courage. Anger at the way # things are, and Courage to struggle to create things as they should be. # -- St. Augustine --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: spare mousepads
Better yet, if he is a teacher wanting them for his class, have him or a school rep contact http://azstrut.org/ and request however many optical mice he needs for class. When I volunteered there we always have a large bin full. Probably won't cost him more than writing a requisition and a drive down there. On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: Is he still using ball mice? If not, he's probably better off getting rid of the mouse pads all together. They usually offer a terrible surface for the laser to hit, and make the mouse a lot more jerky. Of course if the situation is that the desk's surface isn't appropriate for the laser to hit he could always cut up shelf paper and stick it under the mouse, that should do the trick and is very very inexpensive compared to mouse pads. Brian Cluff On 08/04/2013 09:31 AM, der.hans wrote: moin moin, a friend teaches digital photography at a high school and is in dire need to replace his non-functional mousepads. If you have some spares that you can bring to the east side meeting or to Stammtisch, I would appreciate it. ciao, der.hans --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: mkfs
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Re: help - need a picture from my usb camera
cheese actually On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: cheeze is a great one! :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Check bout cheeze On Aug 3, 2013 4:32 PM, David Lopez lopezdavid...@gmail.com wrote: hi all I have a usb logictech video and sound which i mounted over my flat screen monitor. I use it for skype. along comes a lost dog which i'm trying to get on the pet lost and found web sites but i need a picture. i looked at ubuntu using the software centre applet but can't seem to find one. and i looked! years ago i found an app to take pictures but i can't remember the name. any suggestions would me welcome. david -- David López --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Switched off Ubuntu
they come though. I'm super stoked for this... I've tried with android phones running linux atop their kernel, but ui is always a bit clunky/unusable (unity just simply never worked). I'm keen to see just how functional they or I can make the desktop experience, as normally first thing I do is disable unity with ubuntu. Need a local hackfest if/when these come through. -mb On 07/26/2013 11:18 AM, Paul Mooring wrote: Keep in mind what they are shooting for is convergence, a multi-core processor with 4GB(+?) of RAM that acts as the brain of your desktop computer. At $725 people would call this a steal as an ultra-light laptop, combine that with a carrier like T-mobile that allows you to not pay for a phone if you don't get one and that's a whole lot of value for less than $1k. -- Paul Mooring Operations Engineer --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu – Win 7 Dual Boot
George, In all probability, sda1 is a Windows boot partition sda2 is your C:drive partition sda3 is the Windows recovery partion sda4 is the manufacturers utility partition. Several vendors (HP for one) used this scheme for a time (perhaps at M$ urging) to make it harder for other OS's. You could come to the Installfest on 8/3 and we can fix it for you. Or you can do it yourself if you are willing to give one of them up. Before doing anything else, be sure to create a system image and a bootable repair disk. Click on the Start button and type backup (no quotes). Select the Backup and Restore option. You will want to the system image to an external drive and the repair disk to a CD. That done you can choose what to sacrifice and delete that partition using either WIN7s disk management tool or Gparted from your Ubuntu Live disk. Once you have only 3 partitions, the Ubuntu installer can put everything in logical partitions it can create within the extended partition it will create. Larry On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM, G Gambill gwgamb...@gmail.com wrote: Response to all Kitepilot, I seem to remember the idea of primary partitions as 'Extended' from my fdisk days of more than 10 years back. There is no doubt an opportunity here (there is no such thing as a problem, we only have opportunities) to refresh my memory. Matt, it seems that sda3 is the MS recovery partition and I should be able to get by without it. I have no idea what the sda4 partition is all about but hope to before this adventure is over (Google is your friend). Matt and Robert, I think I want to stay with Ubuntu and tough my way through it (maximum learning). I do think I need to wait until the next Installfest (Aug 3rd) so someone, knowing what we are doing, can watch over my shoulder as I beat the keys. Thanks to all. On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 07:56:59AM -0700, Matt Graham wrote: .snip. So: If you're paranoid, make backups of all the partitions. Then delete sda3 and sda4 and create a new sda3 which covers everything from the end of sda2 to the end of the disk. Tell your distro's install CD to use sda3 as / . And think about using something other than Ubuntu; Unity is a pain. I agree that Unity is a pile of poo but that's no reason to switch distros if he's otherwise happy with Ubuntu. He can always install another DE, mate, lxde, xfce, etc etc etc. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped Homeland Security agents who fail to see the humor in Doctor Strangelove -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH0IbkACgkQv5BYD41UknnIvgCfRhegFWYjYr+VG4TaKqkraj0K sxoAoLeNNnEPnr+qz5BjddvNrwqvmKPb =c4FA -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Success builds confidence. Failure builds knowledge. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: footer on certain pages of document in libre office
https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntuchannel=fsq=libreoffice+create+page+styleie=utf-8oe=utf-8 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you so much for telling me this, Brian. It drives me nuts when I can't figure things out that I'm ttrying to figure out! How do you create a custom page style? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: You have to use page styles. Right now every page is just using the default page style. When you need to do it create a custom page style and apply a footer to that. Then all you have to do is change the page style to your custom style with a footer to the pages you want a footer on. Brian On 07/25/2013 07:05 PM, Michael Havens wrote: Right now I have a document with a notes page (where I don't want a footer) and a title page (where I do not want it) and then two pages where I do want it and then two more (where I don't want it). Right now I got the footer in every page. How do I get rid of them in the pages I don't want them in? my websearch didn't present any answers I could follow. I'm sure there must be an easy answer! :-)~MIKE~(-: --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: footer on certain pages of document in libre office
So google libreoffice single page footer and get https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntuchannel=fsq=libreoffice+single+page+footerie=utf-8oe=utf-8 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: well... that explained how to create a page style (*thank you so much*) but not how to set the single page footer. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntuchannel=fsq=libreoffice+create+page+styleie=utf-8oe=utf-8 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you so much for telling me this, Brian. It drives me nuts when I can't figure things out that I'm ttrying to figure out! How do you create a custom page style? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: You have to use page styles. Right now every page is just using the default page style. When you need to do it create a custom page style and apply a footer to that. Then all you have to do is change the page style to your custom style with a footer to the pages you want a footer on. Brian On 07/25/2013 07:05 PM, Michael Havens wrote: Right now I have a document with a notes page (where I don't want a footer) and a title page (where I do not want it) and then two pages where I do want it and then two more (where I don't want it). Right now I got the footer in every page. How do I get rid of them in the pages I don't want them in? my websearch didn't present any answers I could follow. I'm sure there must be an easy answer! :-)~MIKE~(-: --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Is this dangerous?
Thank you Joseph, that is exactly what I wanted to know. If I had been clearer asking the question I might have gotten this kind of answer the first day. My bad! On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: Assuming that you don't already have a /usr/lib64, and you're running a 64-bit arch or don't mind letting 64-bit code think you are, it shouldn't be an issue. What you're doing is creating a link for code that looks specifically for 64-bit libraries to point them at the default library directory. Some code that *really* wants to only run 64-bit may be confused and crash, but the main system, kernel, and core libraries shouldn't have any issues. Most likely (this is speculation, though, having not investigated this particular issue) there's a bug in the Unity system where it's assuming that only 64-bit architectures exist (bad Ubuntu, bad bad Ubuntu), and has linked specifically to the lib64 libraries, even when compiled for i686. Note, if it somehow causes a problem, merely removing the link would fix the problem; something easily done from the recovery console of Grub2. All-in-all this seems pretty safe. Hopefully that helps to clarify the effects of creating that particular link. On 07/24/2013 08:52 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: I already did the research. I was more referring to the fact that I have no clue as to the impact of making that link. Sorry, I should heve been clearer in my question. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:28 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: That instruction is creating a soft link that by all accounts should be already there. It is harmless as it is. but you should: man ln and investigate the options for you own sanity. Free advice, can't sue me... :) ET Dazed_75 writes: I am having some troubles with Ubuntu 12.04.2. After some upgrade (maybe to catalyst13), unity no longer runs. I have tried many fixes with no luck. I actually ran Cinnamon for several weeks, then discovered that Unity 2D works but has unfortunate appearance issues. The I found: http://xpressrazor.wordpress.**com/2013/07/22/install-** catalyst-driver-in-ubuntu-12-**04-2/ http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/install-catalyst-driver-in-ubuntu-12-04-2/ but there is a step that makes me worry: cd /usr ; sudo ln -svT lib /usr/lib64 Should I be concerned about that? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**org PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Is this dangerous?
I am having some troubles with Ubuntu 12.04.2. After some upgrade (maybe to catalyst13), unity no longer runs. I have tried many fixes with no luck. I actually ran Cinnamon for several weeks, then discovered that Unity 2D works but has unfortunate appearance issues. The I found: http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/install-catalyst-driver-in-ubuntu-12-04-2/ but there is a step that makes me worry: cd /usr ; sudo ln -svT lib /usr/lib64 Should I be concerned about that? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: XML Tools
Thanks Kevin, I think I have finished this project now and am debating whether or not to be involved on an ongoing basis. It would appear they do use namespaces and I have a page I was going to study on the subject. I managed to solve my problems without satisfying xmllint. Suffice to say that just because a piece of software claims to use an xml schema does not mean they rigidly adhere to it. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote: Not a tool, but what type of problems are you having? And, is your XML using Namespaces? XML is generally pretty straightforward and easy until Namespaces are used. I have generally used xmlstarlet in the past, but it is not much different from your xmllint as far as telling you what is wrong. Sorry I can be of more help, but if you explain what type of errors your are getting, maybe I can be more useful. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, I search for tools like we discussed last night but everything I found was either a commercial product, poorly rated or dated. I tried 2 of the but one would not run and the other was a Windows product despite saying it was cross platform. It did use Java, so maybe it could be used but I did not like the first question it asked me so I dumped it. I hope you remembered the name of the tool you liked. And maybe it was on this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_XML_editors If others have any ideas after hearing me last night, I would be happy to hear it. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?
First reflex reply is that the Chromebook has a higher resolution display and does NOT assume you want a full screen representation so gives you a window of the same or similar pixel dimensions as the Xoom thereby making it appear physically smaller. As to how you can change that behaviour, I have no idea, but you might look over (or Google) Chrome Settings. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Why does a Xoom 10.1 screen tablet provide larger images of a webpage than a Chromebook 11.6 screen shows of the exact same webpage -- as shown in the snapshot at the link below of the two units sitting side-by-side? http://www.upquick.com/temp/xoom-chrome.jpg And how can one fix the Chromebook to naturally display larger images (without having to use CTRL++ several times)? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: XML Tools
Thanks for the replies guys. The only concern for the commercial products with 30 day trials is I would want to start using it when I am a little further along and when I will have more time to work on this. In two weeks I get all my teeth removed and will likely be stuck at home for a bit. For any who were not at the meeting, I am not really looking for a way to edit XML. I am creating XML from C code and when xmllint tells me something does not fit in the pre-existing schema, it is not always easy to learn why. It was suggested that some editor with extensive support might be able to look/edit the code and knowing the schema(s) involved be able to show me what is needed to fix the xml output from my program. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:25 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: If you dare to try vim (vi) :) That may help you solve problems... I've used it for light stuff and it works right out of the box. There are also several add-ons, do a search for 'vim xml' YMMV... ET Dazed_75 writes: Ed, I search for tools like we discussed last night but everything I found was either a commercial product, poorly rated or dated. I tried 2 of the but one would not run and the other was a Windows product despite saying it was cross platform. It did use Java, so maybe it could be used but I did not like the first question it asked me so I dumped it. I hope you remembered the name of the tool you liked. And maybe it was on this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Comparison_of_XML_editorshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_XML_editors If others have any ideas after hearing me last night, I would be happy to hear it. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Why is Firefox so busy?
The newer versions of Firefox in the guise of efficiency don't refresh the content (or maybe even load it) until you click on that tab. As for killing Firefox and restoring what was lost, Just go to the general tab of preferences and change the When Firefox starts entry to be ... the Windows and tabs from last time. Then don't kill Firefox, just close it and restart it. der Hans also showed us Thursday night how you can use different profiles to (among other things) keep different tab sets open for each. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Jon Kettenhofen s...@kexsof.com wrote: One thing I have noticed is that when I restart, it seems that the sites don't load until I click on the page or the tab. Once viewed, some sites will get busy loading banners, flash, youtube videos, etc. which will obviously slow things down. See if that's that case. Since you killed FF, did not exit it cleanly, I would otherwise expect it to revive in pretty much the same state but it didn't. Stuff that's real-time in memory won't be maintained unless written to hard drive so that may be a factor - you killed it when you rebooted. On the other hand! I have had extreme issues with gnome-shell (yes the new one) gobbling up 100% to 120% or a bit more of my hyper-threaded old xeon even with 8GB of memory, so I have reverted to the Classic Gnome session which is far kinder, peaking at 50% but usually maxing out at 20 percent and under 10 in normal use. Like you, I am wondering where all the processor bloat comes from. I have removed most of my add-ons and plug-ins to FF but with little or no effect. I'm running Mint (14) Nadia, using the Classic Gnome session applied at the login. Doesn't make me immune from the Nasty Social Apparatus, but it beats having to reload another version of linux. Cinnamon runs gnome shell. Jon Kettenhofen On 07/13/2013 08:43 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: OK, I'll confess, I am a WEB site hoarder... I find sites, open DOZENS of them, leave them open to read-them-later/use-them-for-**something/show-it-someone-**else/forgot-to-close- it, you get the drift... At any point of time I always have dozens of open pages, just sitting there. This morning, they were eating 50% of the power of EACH of my 4 cores... Which bumped the processor temp to 53 degs C. Doing nothing... So I killed the flash plug-in (frequent culprit) to no avail... So I bit the bullet and 'kill $(FFOX_PID)' All cores happy... I restarted Firefox and 'restored it' (which opened up everything I had before) and the processor now barely feels the load. And is at a comfy 37 deg C. Which begs the question: What in the World was it doing before? ET --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: XML Tools
dentures. Temps that same day On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so sorry you are losing your teeth buddy. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the replies guys. The only concern for the commercial products with 30 day trials is I would want to start using it when I am a little further along and when I will have more time to work on this. In two weeks I get all my teeth removed and will likely be stuck at home for a bit. That sounds bad, I hope you have replacements ready. Teeth are an important element of long term health - they have a surprising link to cardiac health so be careful. heal quickly - Ed For any who were not at the meeting, I am not really looking for a way to edit XML. I am creating XML from C code and when xmllint tells me something does not fit in the pre-existing schema, it is not always easy to learn why. It was suggested that some editor with extensive support might be able to look/edit the code and knowing the schema(s) involved be able to show me what is needed to fix the xml output from my program. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:25 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: If you dare to try vim (vi) :) That may help you solve problems... I've used it for light stuff and it works right out of the box. There are also several add-ons, do a search for 'vim xml' YMMV... ET Dazed_75 writes: Ed, I search for tools like we discussed last night but everything I found was either a commercial product, poorly rated or dated. I tried 2 of the but one would not run and the other was a Windows product despite saying it was cross platform. It did use Java, so maybe it could be used but I did not like the first question it asked me so I dumped it. I hope you remembered the name of the tool you liked. And maybe it was on this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_XML_editors If others have any ideas after hearing me last night, I would be happy to hear it. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: replacement computer - Yarnell
Hey, maybe we could get the NSA to do that as a service! ROFL On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:26 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 10. Jul, 2013 schwätzte Ted Gould so: I've done that for years with a couple of drives. Mostly for photos. The number of photos I have would take quite literally a week to upload to any online service with the bandwidth I have. And I'd like to use Yeah, backing up my pictures on the local network takes long enough, don't want to think about clouding them. the bandwidth for other things! (Justin Bebier videos, of course) Works well. Kinda manual, but it is a very cheap off-site backup solution. On the technical side what I do is that I back up individual machines to a NAS at home. Then I back up the back up and take that drive to the Initally read that as backing up to an NSA device. Guess we're all doing that anyway. Restores via Freedom of Information Act requests :). ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Lie detector eyeglasses perfected: Civilization collapses. # -- Richard Powers --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: google To address
You get it there by having a contact named PLUG something. Apparently you don't. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: well, that isn't exactly what I wanted. when you click 'compose' the new mail appears with the To field active. When you type a letter it gives you a list of possibilities. PLUGS new address is not in the options. How do you get it there? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: in the upper left corner of the gmail page, click on the little triangle (down arrow) next to the word Gmail. Select Contacts, find the plag discussion list entry, click on that and change the email address. If it does not autosave on you, just clclicick on SAVE. When done go back to the ipper left button and click on the arrow again to change the mode back to Gmail. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: You know, gmail is great (aside from them sharing our communications with the feds) but I can't get it to remember the new address to PLUG. Any tips? I hate it that whenever I type in p it just gives me the option of choosing 'Main PLUG discussion list plug-disc...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us' and the new address isn't even a choice. It was included in the options for about a week then they took it away. :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Ubuntu updates today broken
Thsi may only affect some people and maybe only those with Radeon graphics, but the error I got just said Error: Broken Count 0. I tried fixing broken packages to no avail. In the end, I got dpkg: error processing libdrm-radeon1 (--configure): libdrm-radeon1:amd64 2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.1 cannot be configured because libdrm-radeon1:i386 is in a different version (2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.2) dpkg: error processing libdrm-radeon1:i386 (--configure): libdrm-radeon1:i386 2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.2 cannot be configured because libdrm-radeon1:amd64 is in a different version (2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.1) Errors were encountered while processing: libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-radeon1:i386 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu updates today broken
I thought the :i386 packages were part of the system for supporting 32 bit programs to run in 64-bit (though I had always though there was no problem doing so except for packages that used the kernel directly (like drivers). Anyway, that did not help. when I went to a console (i.e. ctrl-F2) and killed X it just dropped me to the login screen (which makes some sense). So I restarted and used the recovery console. Using that command to me the filesystem was ro so I went back to the recovery screen and chose the dpkg fix entry from the menu. That looked like it fixed things and did install the other 9 updates, but still complained about the i386 thing. Dropping to a root shell again (the FS was now rw), I tried again to dpkg -r .. to no avail. rebooting put me back in normally and the Update Manager now shows only libdrm-radeon1 needing update but it fails the same way. I'm going to hope the update itself caused the problem and maybe they will put out a fix this weekend. Thanks for your help! On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: Looks like you managed to get both the i386 version and the amd64 version of libdrm-radeon1 trying to install at the same time, and of course stepping on each others toes since they provide the same thing. I've run into similar problems in the past with other packages that atarted out with an i386 only version and then later added a 64bit version. You should be able to fix yourself right up by doing: dpkg -r libdrm-radeon1:i386 You might want to do the above from a plain console without X running since you will be swapping part of it's brains out with a totally different version, just be be safe. Brian Cluff On 07/05/2013 05:55 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: Update. None of the known fixes and when the Update Manager complains and I click on Details, it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libdrm-radeon1:Depends:libc6(**=2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.4 is installed libdrm-radeon1:i386: The way I read that it looks like not a problem. BTW, this is Ubuntu 12.04.2 64bit which makes me wonder about that 10.4 in the message. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com mailto:lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Thsi may only affect some people and maybe only those with Radeon graphics, but the error I got just said Error: Broken Count 0. I tried fixing broken packages to no avail. In the end, I got dpkg: error processing libdrm-radeon1 (--configure): libdrm-radeon1:amd64 2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.1 cannot be configured because libdrm-radeon1:i386 is in a different version (2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.2) dpkg: error processing libdrm-radeon1:i386 (--configure): libdrm-radeon1:i386 2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.2 cannot be configured because libdrm-radeon1:amd64 is in a different version (2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.1) Errors were encountered while processing: libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-radeon1:i386 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu updates today broken
No joy. In fact, now Unity does not come up so although I can see the desktop, there is nothing I can do except to ctrl-alt-Fx to get a console. BTW, that is what I did when you said to stop X from a console and try removing the package. I know I said I did ctrl-F2 but that was not what I did. In any case, I also had the Cinnamon desktop installed so I switched to that and that is how I am using it now. I tried a lot more stuff and the same errors happen (despite my having removed every libdrm-radeon1* file and directory on the system. I am thinking the problem began with some file being left locked and that is causing the current error messages. Who know -- I can't think about this anymore. I am going over to Win7 and playing some Lotro On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: Normally your system would be able to have both and i386 and an amd64 version at the same time. But that's a library for the video driver, so it doesn't really make sense to have 2 different versions of it at the same time unless you are going to be driving 2 different video cards and want/need to use a 64bit and a 32bit at the same time. The way I would have done it is to do CTRL+ALT+F1, login as you and then do: sudo stop lightdm sudo dpkg -r libdrm-radeon1:i386 sudo apt-get install libdrm-radeon1 Hopefully that would take care of it. Brian Cluff On 07/05/2013 06:44 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: I thought the :i386 packages were part of the system for supporting 32 bit programs to run in 64-bit (though I had always though there was no problem doing so except for packages that used the kernel directly (like drivers). Anyway, that did not help. when I went to a console (i.e. ctrl-F2) and killed X it just dropped me to the login screen (which makes some sense). So I restarted and used the recovery console. Using that command to me the filesystem was ro so I went back to the recovery screen and chose the dpkg fix entry from the menu. That looked like it fixed things and did install the other 9 updates, but still complained about the i386 thing. Dropping to a root shell again (the FS was now rw), I tried again to dpkg -r .. to no avail. rebooting put me back in normally and the Update Manager now shows only libdrm-radeon1 needing update but it fails the same way. I'm going to hope the update itself caused the problem and maybe they will put out a fix this weekend. Thanks for your help! On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: Looks like you managed to get both the i386 version and the amd64 version of libdrm-radeon1 trying to install at the same time, and of course stepping on each others toes since they provide the same thing. I've run into similar problems in the past with other packages that atarted out with an i386 only version and then later added a 64bit version. You should be able to fix yourself right up by doing: dpkg -r libdrm-radeon1:i386 You might want to do the above from a plain console without X running since you will be swapping part of it's brains out with a totally different version, just be be safe. Brian Cluff On 07/05/2013 05:55 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: Update. None of the known fixes and when the Update Manager complains and I click on Details, it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libdrm-radeon1:Depends:libc6(**__=2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.4 is installed libdrm-radeon1:i386: The way I read that it looks like not a problem. BTW, this is Ubuntu 12.04.2 64bit which makes me wonder about that 10.4 in the message. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com mailto:lthiels...@gmail.com mailto:lthiels...@gmail.com mailto:lthiels...@gmail.com** wrote: Thsi may only affect some people and maybe only those with Radeon graphics, but the error I got just said Error: Broken Count 0. I tried fixing broken packages to no avail. In the end, I got dpkg: error processing libdrm-radeon1 (--configure): libdrm-radeon1:amd64 2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.1 cannot be configured because libdrm-radeon1:i386 is in a different version (2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.2) dpkg: error processing libdrm-radeon1:i386 (--configure): libdrm-radeon1:i386 2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.2 cannot be configured because libdrm-radeon1:amd64 is in a different version (2.4.43-0ubuntu0.0.1) Errors were encountered while processing: libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-radeon1:i386 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please
Re: Old C code
Joseph, I found in the source code a directory containing .xslt files that look like this: ?xml version=1.0? xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; version=1.0 xsl:strip-space elements=*/ xsl:output method=xml indent=no encoding=UTF-8 omit-xml-declaration=yes/ xsl:template match=/ divelog program='subsurface-import' version='2' dives xsl:apply-templates select=DIVELOGSDATA/ /dives /divelog /xsl:template ... Is that what you mean? I think so and may be able to figure out how to use them but would appreciate any help too. As far as the source of the data, it is all in flat files containg the data in nested structures where all records are a fixed size. Them I already know and need to write a program to read them and write out the XML stuff for SubSurface to import (I believe). Mark, It looks like SubSurface uses the libdivecomputer stuff as I already have the source on my machine. I sure wish I had had that 25 years ago :) On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.netwrote: If you have examples and/or a data schema(preferred) from the existing and destination systems, I could help with the XML structure and definition... On 06/28/2013 07:53 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: Yes, outputting XML style text IS trivial. Knowing what all to put there is an issue I should be able to resolve by exporting something from SubSurface. Whether there are tools, style sheets or anything to assist with converting my data to that form is a bigger question. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:27 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: XML is trivial stuff partialtruth(to a point)/partialtruth. If you can output text, you can output XML. How do you need to output the XML to make it usable for your next input is a different story. ET Dazed_75 writes: Thanks for the offer. We could also just chat sometime. Looks like I will need to take my existing data which is in one or more data files and output it in some form of XML which I know next to nothing about. I'll be looking for tools and/or tutorial type stuff on that. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 5:10 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: I'll be glad to give you a hand when/if the time comes. Gotta get my scuba cert too... ET Dazed_75 writes: As I said, I was looking over some old C code from my DOS/Windows time about 25 years ago. I finally found most of what I needed so the main .h include file will compile without error. It was not as bad as I had thought. The biggest thing that was confusing me was the plethora of include files and architecture variations I did not have to deal with back then. Trying to find where something is typedef'd today is a lot more complex. Nevertheless, if I continue this project I may be asking for some assistance from time to time. Basically, I wrote a scuba diving log program called Dive-In back around 1988 for the same reasons Linus Torvalds did in the last few years. Mine was better than SubSurface in a several ways and SubSurface is better than Dive-In in a number of ways. I still use Dive-In and have around 780 dives in it, but I have to run it in DosBox or WINE and that causes some issues for me. I'd like to export the data to a format that SubSurface can import and that is essentially the project. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org PLUG-discuss@lists.**phxlinux.org PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss **http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**org PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org
Re: Old C code
Thanks for the offer. We could also just chat sometime. Looks like I will need to take my existing data which is in one or more data files and output it in some form of XML which I know next to nothing about. I'll be looking for tools and/or tutorial type stuff on that. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 5:10 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: I'll be glad to give you a hand when/if the time comes. Gotta get my scuba cert too... ET Dazed_75 writes: As I said, I was looking over some old C code from my DOS/Windows time about 25 years ago. I finally found most of what I needed so the main .h include file will compile without error. It was not as bad as I had thought. The biggest thing that was confusing me was the plethora of include files and architecture variations I did not have to deal with back then. Trying to find where something is typedef'd today is a lot more complex. Nevertheless, if I continue this project I may be asking for some assistance from time to time. Basically, I wrote a scuba diving log program called Dive-In back around 1988 for the same reasons Linus Torvalds did in the last few years. Mine was better than SubSurface in a several ways and SubSurface is better than Dive-In in a number of ways. I still use Dive-In and have around 780 dives in it, but I have to run it in DosBox or WINE and that causes some issues for me. I'd like to export the data to a format that SubSurface can import and that is essentially the project. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Ping
I'm scratching my head looking at a bunch of C code I wrote in a Windows environment 25 years ago and debating whether to consider re-doing it under linux. The code itself is well documented, the development environment no so much. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:36 PM, John J. Macey jjma...@gmail.com wrote: No, everyone has left for cooler climates. LOL! John On 06/27/2013 03:05 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: Ping Not seeing traffic on the list, bored, and wondering if there is life outside of my office. Gilbert --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: /usr/local/bin/search ??
No such file on my Ubuntu 12.04.2 In fact,/usr/local/bin/ is totally empty so it like is a result from something you added to or ran on the system. Take a look at the datestamps, ownership and permissions On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.netwrote: In most cases that's part of a full-text search facility. In Ubuntu and derivatives (like Mint) it's part of the core system. The usage is as follows (for example): search for Some Text String -c -s which would provide file names where you may find the text string you were looking for. In debian derivatives the following command will tell you what package installed a particular file: dpkg -S filename (e.g. dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/search) On 06/27/2013 03:37 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: What is this and how might one use it? I found this on my system. There is no man page for it. A google search turns up nothing (that makes sense to me). I've tried several arguments and options, but each one just starts a long string of directory/filenames that I don't understand. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Ping
Actually, I just got an email that seemed to check out. Hard to believe it works, but a lot of people claim that if you seal some water and a half dozen pennies in a ziplock bag and hang that up that the bugs will leave and never bite you. I think I have been bitten once in 10 years here in the valley so I am surely not going to bother. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: You need to make one of these: http://www.scribd.com/doc/**37127213/Make-23-Mosquito-**Blasterhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/37127213/Make-23-Mosquito-Blaster I'd be tempted to leave bodies of water in my yard just to watch it work :) Brian Cluff On 06/27/2013 05:02 PM, Derek Trotter wrote: I'd be happy to trade places with anyone tired of the climate in Arizona. The last summer I was there I had 4 mosquito bites. Last night I ended up with 6. Someone here asked me to donate blood last summer. I said I can't because the bugs took too much. On 06/27/2013 03:36 PM, John J. Macey wrote: No, everyone has left for cooler climates. LOL! John On 06/27/2013 03:05 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: Ping Not seeing traffic on the list, bored, and wondering if there is life outside of my office. Gilbert --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss . -- I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual. Patrick Moore --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Linux Equivalent Program
Yes, I have used WiFi Analyzer for years on my phone and on a couple of tablets. It is useful to spot channel conflicts and to see what is available in a location and relative strengths of different nets. It is NOT useful for the Heatmap analysis of a home or office without a lot of manual work. Hence my interest in the product initially asked about. I guess it is time to try it under WINE in the next day or two. Thanks for all the input and discussion folks. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: I use inssider on my tablet for quickie survey data, it looks similar to wifi analyzer and is free too. Either is probably good in a pinch, and then some. I bought a spectrum analyzer, a metageek dbx, that unfortunately has most investment of features in windoze software, but kismet has a side project spectools to get basic readings out of it graphically as well for linux. For the windoze software, I feed the device into virtual box on an xp instance along with a wifi nic, and this gives me most all the functionality of both worlds. Mapping though, I didn't see much about the one wifiscanandmap vs. something like ekahau or airmagnet survey suites. Oh yeah, their main site was dead then too which didn't help me wanting to bother get working. Of course the commercial tools are a good 5-10k for the tools, require windoze, and still come with quirks to use, but do what you generally need, which is record and display overlays of the traffic adequately. If wifiscanandmap can, I'll definitely check it out again. Otherwise I'm just gonna get my company to buy me airmagnet suites at some point. :) I was hoping there was something for rtls location tracking in linux, but there were only a few abandoned projects out there. Wifi mapping suites like airwave are only so accurate without rtls, but rtls is much nicer for realtime mapping accuracy, such as rfid tracking of .11 tags. -mb On 06/19/2013 08:01 PM, Lyle Tuttle wrote: This might be better after looking at the comments...I use it, and it does not map, but does tell me what is available and how strong the signal is, and the SSID: https://play.google.com/store/**apps/details?id=com.farproc.** wifi.analyzerfeature=search_**result#?t=**W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm **9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzerfeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ .. At 03:43 PM 6/19/2013, James Finstrom wrote: looks like this android app does this https://play.google.com/store/**apps/details?id=com.hogdex.** WifiMapMakerFreehttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hogdex.WifiMapMakerFree Wifi Map maker DISCLAIMER: Haven't tried it. *ಠ_ಠ* On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com mailto:jfinstrom@**rhinoequipment.comjfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Seems like something easily done in python.  This does require gps so thinking it would be better as an android app. James Finstrom Rhino Equipment http://rhinoequipment.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/**rhinoequipmenthttp://twitter.com/rhinoequipment Facebook: http://facebook.com/**RhinoEquipmenthttp://facebook.com/RhinoEquipment *ಠ_ಠ* On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com mailto:lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Lisa, I did not try it in WINE. I am just enough of a bigot to look for a pure Linux solution first since I do not have a work project I need to complete. https://github.com/**cyberpython/WifiScanAndMaphttps://github.com/cyberpython/WifiScanAndMapseems to indicate something far from having a polished GUI and looks to be at a significantly lower map resolution (though worth a look if nothing else turns up). The Meraki FAQ ( http://meraki.cisco.com/**products/wireless/wifi-mapper#**faqhttp://meraki.cisco.com/products/wireless/wifi-mapper#faq) says A: WiFi Mapper requires Java support and does not currently support Linux. Michael, Yep on the corner on the market. Makes one thonk it could be a great opportunity for a FOSS project. :) On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net mailto:mich...@butash.net wrote: I've been working on a wireless project for months, and looked around for things oss like heatmapping, rtls function, etc, and there's nothing too well baked to use production-wise aside from some half-baked, minimally existing projects on sourceforge. Seems commercial software like Aruba Airwave, Cisco WLS/Prime, Ekahau, etc have the lock on things from that perspective
Re: OT Best Way For Safe Internet Surfing/Email While Travelling?
I've also been wanting to do this for a long time and never seem to get to it. Here are a couple of resources I was intending to use. Note that the howtogeek story includes getting ddwrt installed if you have not already done so. http://www.howtogeek.com/64433/how-to-install-and-configure-openvpn-on-your-dd-wrt-router/ http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/OpenVPN On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: Stephen, Thanks for the offer! How about later this afternoon? Mark On Jun 18, 2013 10:21 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about setting up the openVPN portion of my DDWRT install also. Maybe we can set up a hangout and hash thought it. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: I don't have much experience setting up a VPN and I haven't used the services, so I'm not really a good person to answer that. Perhaps one of the VPN guru's on the list could help out here. On 06/18/2013 09:00 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I thought a VPN would be important. Do you recommend a service? Which one? My router has dd-WRT installed, so openvpn. Would that be preferred, or is the setup painful? Thanks, Mark On Jun 18, 2013 8:49 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: I would recommend using the gmail app for gmail (it only uses HTTPS for communication, and obeys VPN settings). I would also second Stephen's VPN recommendation, you can setup a VPN for the primary connection in the tablet settings so everything is tunneled through your server back home (which prevents many, but not all, types of snooping when using public WiFi). On 06/18/2013 06:46 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: I am going for a week of scuba diving in Puerto Rico with my family. I only plan to take my Android tablet for email (gmail via browser) and Internet surfing using wifi. What are your recommendations on how to access the Internet safely using wifi with Android? Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Looking for Linux Equivalent Program
I ran across this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-heatmap-for-network-analysis-better-coverage-and-geek-cred-galore/ which shows doing a very nifty wifi map of your space. Unfortunately it uses a windows only program from Ekahau called HeatMap. I did a little web searching for a Linux equivalent program but have not found anything that included the mapping function. Does anyone know of one? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Linux Equivalent Program
Lisa, I did not try it in WINE. I am just enough of a bigot to look for a pure Linux solution first since I do not have a work project I need to complete. https://github.com/cyberpython/WifiScanAndMap seems to indicate something far from having a polished GUI and looks to be at a significantly lower map resolution (though worth a look if nothing else turns up). The Meraki FAQ ( http://meraki.cisco.com/products/wireless/wifi-mapper#faq) says A: WiFi Mapper requires Java support and does not currently support Linux. Michael, Yep on the corner on the market. Makes one thonk it could be a great opportunity for a FOSS project. :) On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: I've been working on a wireless project for months, and looked around for things oss like heatmapping, rtls function, etc, and there's nothing too well baked to use production-wise aside from some half-baked, minimally existing projects on sourceforge. Seems commercial software like Aruba Airwave, Cisco WLS/Prime, Ekahau, etc have the lock on things from that perspective. -mb On 06/19/2013 09:00 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: I ran across this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/**165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-** heatmap-for-network-analysis-**better-coverage-and-geek-cred-**galore/http://www.howtogeek.com/165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-heatmap-for-network-analysis-better-coverage-and-geek-cred-galore/ which shows doing a very nifty wifi map of your space. Unfortunately it uses a windows only program from Ekahau called HeatMap. I did a little web searching for a Linux equivalent program but have not found anything that included the mapping function. Does anyone know of one? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Linux Equivalent Program
Looks like all the alternatives proposed so far do a poor job of mapping and most are totally useless for mapping coverage in an office or home which was the focus for the Windows application originally named. Maybe there is more than one use for Windows after all :) On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: looks like this android app does this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hogdex.WifiMapMakerFreeWifi Map maker DISCLAIMER: Haven't tried it. ಠ_ಠ ** On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Seems like something easily done in python. This does require gps so thinking it would be better as an android app. James Finstrom Rhino Equipment http://rhinoequipment.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment Facebook: http://facebook.com/RhinoEquipment ಠ_ಠ ** On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Lisa, I did not try it in WINE. I am just enough of a bigot to look for a pure Linux solution first since I do not have a work project I need to complete. https://github.com/cyberpython/WifiScanAndMap seems to indicate something far from having a polished GUI and looks to be at a significantly lower map resolution (though worth a look if nothing else turns up). The Meraki FAQ ( http://meraki.cisco.com/products/wireless/wifi-mapper#faq ) says A: WiFi Mapper requires Java support and does not currently support Linux. Michael, Yep on the corner on the market. Makes one thonk it could be a great opportunity for a FOSS project. :) On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.netwrote: I've been working on a wireless project for months, and looked around for things oss like heatmapping, rtls function, etc, and there's nothing too well baked to use production-wise aside from some half-baked, minimally existing projects on sourceforge. Seems commercial software like Aruba Airwave, Cisco WLS/Prime, Ekahau, etc have the lock on things from that perspective. -mb On 06/19/2013 09:00 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: I ran across this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/**165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-** heatmap-for-network-analysis-**better-coverage-and-geek-cred-**galore/http://www.howtogeek.com/165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-heatmap-for-network-analysis-better-coverage-and-geek-cred-galore/ which shows doing a very nifty wifi map of your space. Unfortunately it uses a windows only program from Ekahau called HeatMap. I did a little web searching for a Linux equivalent program but have not found anything that included the mapping function. Does anyone know of one? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Worlds smallest movie
And historically, some forward looking companies not only allow, but require employees to spend some percentage of their time in research independent of their normal job. Everyone knows the evolution of 3M Post-it notes. When I worked at 3M Central Research Laboratories, I was required to spend 15% of my time on independent research (I was a college student) and the only requirement was that I inform the Technical Director what things I was looking into. I could even spend that time talking to *anyone* in the Lab including a guy so intelligent he reported to no one except when he wanted to. I only managed to patent a special version of magnetic screwdriver. The man in the lab next to me was around 10 years older and had 20+ patents for 3M. The last one I know he did was a very accurate and efficient way to measure blood clotting. The medicos and hospitals desperately wanted that one. So many things can happen when you unfetter your people! On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: This is how new technology is discovered. with to much free time and really high end tech. what do they do find a use for said tech and maybe make some new tech to go along with. On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: gee it reminds me of the game 'pong' :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: IBM has too much free time: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/40970.wss Eric --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: laser printer question
Start by opening up the printer and cleaning all the rollers with alcohol and something lint free. Chances are you are getting some/occasional slippage. You might also look for worn edges or worn grooves that could be catching the paper. Sometimes you can get an HP laser printer from ASU surplus for a decent price. Personally I have had good luck with Brother laser printers (2250/2270 dn specifically) and they can be had for $70-$200 depending on who has them for sale. Lately, Fry's Electronics and Newegg have had Samsung lasers on sale. I have no experience with them but it may be worth the $70 to try one out. On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Mark Jarvis m.jar...@cox.net wrote: We have an HP 1018 laser printer. It is not good about keeping the paper in alignment as the paper goes through the printer. For example, if the page has a box 1/2 from the edges, the paper can slew slightly so that the printed lines can be 1/8 closer to the edge at the top than at the bottom (or vice versa). This happens from 25% to 60% of the time. For most things, who cares? But if you're printing the master pages that will be used to make copies of a newsletter, it is very bad. Trying to get copies with even margins from a slewed master is not fun. Unfortunately, I have never seen a printer review that addressed keeping the paper straight in line as it goes through the machine. Does anyone have a recommendation for a (reasonably priced) printer that does a good job of this? Or even the name of a forum where I can go for advice? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: VOTE -- New List (Was Re:Off Topic Discussions)
My vote would be to use the existing list for on topic discussions and create a new list for OFF-topic items! OTOH, I don't think either will go over well as either one requires a sizeable group of people to change their behaviour. On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com wrote: ** In light of Lisa's request for a new list, I suggest we create a list for ON TOPIC ONLY People who are only interested in the specifics can join the ON TOPIC list and never be bothered with the discussion list. Can we vote on it? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: return address labels in libreoffice
Works for me is all I can say. On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: that is what I did. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Open LibreOffice Writer open a new document from the File menu selecting labels on the label dialog box, select Avery Letter size select a Label Style check the return address checkbox (assuming you filled in those fields when you set LibreOffice the first time You are now looking at a 1 page document with your return address filled in on all the labels. Print as many sheets as you need On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Mark. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Mike, Not sure what happened with LO, but you can try Avery Design and Print using just a browser. Go to avery.com, click on Design and Print, and follow the directions. The online program creates a PDF file that you can print on your local computer. You can save the file in the cloud, or locally. Lots more design templates than LO. Mark On Jun 10, 2013 10:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Here is something weird. I got return address labels and I put my address down and copied the one label to all of them,. It's all good except when I saved it and then reopened it the labels, which were 1 page 4 columns, turned into 2 pages, 3 columns with one of the edge columns being on the second page as well as every other label of the two middle columns. To print all of the labels I have to print page 1, rotate the page 180 degrees, and then print page 1 again.Any ideas how to fix this? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: return address labels in libreoffice
Open LibreOffice Writer open a new document from the File menu selecting labels on the label dialog box, select Avery Letter size select a Label Style check the return address checkbox (assuming you filled in those fields when you set LibreOffice the first time You are now looking at a 1 page document with your return address filled in on all the labels. Print as many sheets as you need On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mark. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Mike, Not sure what happened with LO, but you can try Avery Design and Print using just a browser. Go to avery.com, click on Design and Print, and follow the directions. The online program creates a PDF file that you can print on your local computer. You can save the file in the cloud, or locally. Lots more design templates than LO. Mark On Jun 10, 2013 10:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Here is something weird. I got return address labels and I put my address down and copied the one label to all of them,. It's all good except when I saved it and then reopened it the labels, which were 1 page 4 columns, turned into 2 pages, 3 columns with one of the edge columns being on the second page as well as every other label of the two middle columns. To print all of the labels I have to print page 1, rotate the page 180 degrees, and then print page 1 again.Any ideas how to fix this? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: InstallFest Tomorrow
If I implied you were not welcome to attend, I apologize. I only meant that we were unlikely to have time to participate in what you were suggesting with regard to security testing our systems. Even if our time were not required, I think you can understand that we would want to know what was being done and we most often would not have time for that. You are certainly welcome to attend as are any who would volunteer to help or to seek assistance. No, it was not before my time that you did help out at the installfest unless you only did so prior to 2004. Since that time I have probably missed a total of 6 or fewer events and I was in charge of them ever since Alexander left us. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Larry, Hi my friend, how are you! On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Lisa, we are unlikely to have the time for that whether we have the inclination or not. We have a few people known to be coming for various reasons though nothing out of the ordinary. One fellow set up dual boot with Win8 and Ubuntu and was coming because his wireless was not working but he got it fixed on his own so is no longer planning on being there. Larry, as in all pentesting, you (and the machines to be tested) would not need to be involved (other than turned on). But the process would be terribly boring and I would in fact find nothing, because Linux installations today have very few systems that can be exploited right out of the box. Since the first thing we do is to patch everything, there's no daemons that would be fingerprinted with exploit code by Metasploit. Additionally, the very small number of exploitable daemons (before patching) are not configured generally right out of the box. A good rule of thumb, especially since UAT has some of the best crackers to share a network (sending a team to DefCon every year) is to install, update (yum update or apt-get update) and THEN turn off selinux, configure cups, etc. The possible period of time wherein exploitable code would/could be available would be very small should the owner have an insecure application to install (from backports for instance) and update. Of course, we are not considering other forms of computer insecurity, such as SSH password testing or Man in the Middle attacks (sslstrip) which anyone can do sharing a network. I have contributed to driver issue resolution, configuration for EDVO cards/modems, complex VPN configurations and kernel building at installfests; I think that might have been before your time? I would come just to see the great outreach this Installfest is for our community, expanding Linux/Opensource use while saving older equipment from the Micro$oft agenda that would place them into the landfill. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Anything good happening with the InstallFest tomorrow? Can I come and test your systems with Metasploit /bad kitty? -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com http://it-clowns.com/d/ Chief Clown --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com http://it-clowns.com/d/ Chief Clown --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: linux for my Toshiba laptop?
Most distros will work on a box that can run Vista. Some Toshiba laptops use a Toshiba specific method of power control and need to be installed with ACPI turned off. That's about all anyone could say since you have provided no details about your machine or what you want to do with it (dual boot vs wipe Windows and replace with Linux vs other options). As far as what distro to choose, that is as much up to your preferences as anything. We could offer our opinions but they would be based on our differing opinions rather than your needs and desires. If you would like to discuss some options, you are welcome to come to Stammtische (Tuesday 7pm), Ubuntu Hour (Thursday 7pm), or an Installfest (Saturday 6/1 10-4pm). And there are other events where you could talk with us. Stammtische @ Iguana Macks 1371 N. Alma School Rd, Chandler, AZ 85224 Ubuntu Hour @ Extreme Bean SW corner area of McClintock Southern Installfest @ UAT (University of Advancing Technology) 2625 W. Baseline Road Tempe, AZ 85283 (Between 48th Fry's) On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:43 AM, mike enriquez myli...@cox.net wrote: I am looking for a distro to load on my Toshiba laptop that is running Vista. Does anyone know, how I can tell if this will work or not. Thanks Mike Enriquez -- * Knowledge becomes obsolete; research everything! * --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: (or is it) re: cell phone data access
I am in the same range as Alan. HOWEVER, that usage does not count WiFi access where I might use considerable more. If you do not use WiFi some of the time for your device you need to consider that. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: i would represent a heavier user, and i bounce around from 800mb-3gb per month depending on what i am up to. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:19 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks Alan. That is very helpful. So, I'm guessing that if I used it only once or twice a week for an average of 10-minutes each time, my MB consumption would surely stay well under 50-MB/month -- i.e. under $10-15/month. - I'm a pretty constant user of data on my phone for the uses you describe. I usually consume about 170MB per month, rarely going over 200MB. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Wifi PIN
Do a google search on cracking WEP and you will find a LOT of information including instructions on how to crack it in 60 seconds. WPA-PSK is pretty good as long as all your equipment supports it. Some old gear may not. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Use wpa2-psk, make sure it uses aes/ccmp, about all that holds true for consumer-grade right now. There are proprietary pin or pair methods, but wpa2 with a large/complex pre-share key is much better standard than trusting poor vendor implementations of crypto. About anything else is inherently insecure in some form until you spawn a pki/ca/radius for peap/eap-tls. Even mschap-v2 is vulnerable without some kind of pki exchange tunnelling methods. Friends don't let friends use wep. -mb On 05/09/2013 08:17 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, I just got off the phone with Dell. I bought a new Dell and it would not connect to my WIFI. I have another computer that is in another room that has worked on this network for 3+ years w/o an issue. The first guy told me to never password protect my router, and never configure an access list. He said by using a WEP key my router is secure. I disagree. I'm thinking the more layers of security the better. So the second guy says the problem was I needed to disable the router's PIN, which he did and then he changed the wireless channel to 6 (was auto) and the new Dell was able to access the Internet. However then the computer in the other room could not access the Internet. Ok, after a reboot it now connects via WIFI. I was able to re-activate my access list. I had a WEP key in place the whole time. I did a little reading on the PIN and it appears it is not all that important and is a consumer grade protection in case no other security is used. Is the PIN just a low grade security level that is not all that effective? Also do you agree with the first guy that said the only change should be to add a WEP key? Thanks!! Keith Smith --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Arizona Internet Speed Test
Out of curiosity I ran the Arizona test mentioned in the original email. I am in Apache Junction and am using Mediacom cable. I ran the test as 8:30 Am on a Friday. Results: 16.94 Mbps down 1.77 Mbps up 51 ms ping On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: PLUG - take the test -- Forwarded message -- From: AZ Telecom and Info Council i...@arizonatele.com Date: Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM Subject: Arizona Internet Speed Test View this email on the web here. You can also forward to a friend. Arizona Telecommunications and Information Coucil Digital Arizona Program Internet Speed Test Take The Test http://www.digitalarizona.gov/speedtest/ On behalf of the Digital Arizona Program (DAP) ATIC is encouraging you to take the Internet Speed test today. DAP created an Internet Speed Test and Survey on the Digital Arizona web portal to measure the upload and download (connection) speeds at tens of thousands of locations (i.e. homes, offices, etc.) around the State. The Speed Test is a simple “click here” web-link (commonly used nationwide) with a display indicating connection speeds (Mbps) at a particular location and moment in time. The combination of data from large quantities of speed tests along with answers from the related survey questions will be analyzed by the Digital Arizona team to determine potential areas and/or communities that may be poorly served. Together with initial device and location type questions, after the Speed Test there are some optional questions to help us learn about what kind of Internet services folks are using and how those services are being used. This will assist us with our goal of facilitating access to better high-speed Internet service for ALL Arizonans, especially those residing in the rural areas of the State. Digital Arizona Program The Digital Arizona Project is a federally funded grant program in the Arizona Strategic Enterprise Technology (ASET) Office of the Arizona Department of Administration (ADOA). The program is focused on facilitating “better Internet” across Arizona, with better availability and increased adoption and use. Better Internet is an amplifier for job creation, better K-12 education, advances in Tele-health, and improving economic development in Arizona. Increased supply will also help lower Internet costs for everyone. We are asking for your assistance in helping us determine the current quality of Internet access actually experienced by citizens across the state. Need For Speed High speed Internet is the new essential infrastructure for this century’s job creation, educational and healthcare transformation, and economic development like highways, railroads, canals, and electricity were for previous generations. Take The Test Here [FYI - the survey is over] http://php.a-d-w.com/limesurvey/index.php?sid=81357lang=en We invite you to participate in this effort at home, work and anywhere you connect to the Internet. For the results to be statistically significant we need as many people doing the test in as many locations and on as many devices as possible. We hope it goes viral and we very much appreciate your participation and distribution of the information and request to utilize it among your stakeholder community. Contact ATIC 602-254-5887 i...@arizonatele.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: PLUG Meeting This Thursday (5/9) at OUR NEW LOCATION
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Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate
I am reasonably sure this is only at the state level. Has anyone actually read it to verify is local is included somewhere? On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:23 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: I assume form what I am reading that one will have to have a sales license in each state and collect sales tax based on local and report that to the state and give the money to the state. They state would then disburse the money. I further assume the online retailer would be subject to audit by any one of the taxing authorities. The audits could be worse than collecting and reporting the tax. About two weeks ago I wrote an article about online sales tax : http://www.netcodeman.com/news/internet-retail-sales-tax-and-how-it-may-effect-the-online-retailer/ Keith Smith --- On *Tue, 5/7/13, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net* wrote: From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 3:22 PM Taxes are a pain. I believe it will probably be taxing only to the state level, and not county and city. I do not know how this would work. Do you have to register your tax id in every state? File paperwork in every state? How do states know that you have made transactions within their borders? This seems like it would be a logistical nightmare. I remember when I had an operation in TX, that was a headache and a half. I cannot image nationally. Gilbert On 5/7/2013 8:48 AM, keith smith wrote: The U.S. Senate passed the Internet Sales Tax Bill. Jeff Flake's office says he voted against it and John McCain's office said he voted FOR it. It is being reported there in some 9,600 taxing authorities in the U.S. Add to that 560 or so Indian tribe taxing authorities. That is over 10,000 taxing authorities. Yikes!! Any company with 1 million in sales will be required to comply. I can tell you that a company that has 1 million in sales is not a big company. That online retailer might consist of 2 or 3 employees with some additional help from a number of consultants and potentially a fulfillment center. From first hand experience, I would say this law, if passed by the U.S. House, will cause a bunch of small online retailers to either go out of business or reduce sales through raising prices or some other method. This may very well play out like ObamaCare where companies are reducing the hours of their employees so they have less than 50 full-time employees. In other words we will experience the unintended consequences of these laws. These polices effect each of us. Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.orghttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: (or is it) seeking app for a single file content search
For something very simple and cross platform, you might consider using zenity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenity On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Kevin Brown kevinbrown...@gmail.comwrote: That it might, be easier to learn that is, but I still don't get python's paradigm of using whitespace to control structure. It's caused me nothing but headaches when trying to use other code snippets. Where as languages like Perl, C, etc..., I can just copy and paste whole blocks into my code. This may start a holy war but it may be easier to learn python than perl On Apr 23, 2013 7:31 PM, j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com wrote: Kevin wrote: You could build something pretty easily using Perl with either Wx or Tk as the GUI interface. Then create the entry fields that you want (search, add, edit, etc...). Great thing is, then you could make them work together with the same dataset (your txt file). Thanks Kevin ... Since I don't know Perl (and I don't know what either Wx or Tk is), I'd be glad to pay someone to build this for me. Might you be interested? Or, if not, where could I look to find someone to build this? Any takers please reply either on list or off list: j...@actionline.com --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**phxlinux.orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgrade
Can't you just select them and hit delete? On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Eric Allen ericall...@juno.com wrote: I upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 12.04 but need to know how to remove the trashcan icon, home folder icon, and the computer icon left from classic gnome, the side bar has those already. Is it in the gconf-editor? How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/51551a93c35ad1a931a70st02vuc --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: (or not?) What is the best PHR Personal Health Record service?
The biggest problem in my mind for such things is not the security though that is important. The biggest problem is getting the information to be actually used by medical personnel. I cannot relate how often the nurse and doctor both ask you to answer questions to which the answers are already in the office records accessible from the same computer on which they are inputting the answers. It is not that they are just verifying the answers in most cases as evidenced by the doctor who comes in after the nurse does her thing asking the SAME questions. My mother was once in Banner Gateway Hospital for 7 days. Five times during her stay she was asked a question to which their system had the wrong answer. Five times (on different days) we gave the correction. Five times the person made a correcting entry. On checkout it was still wrong. Turns out the corrections were not corrections at all, just notes in the patient record and no one was processing them. Later that week I met with the Chief of Nursing to compliment her staff and to comment on how overworked they were. During the meeting I related this story as well as a couple of notes that had been made for doctors who turned out to have never seen them. I was told that it is a long process to get doctors and hospitals to actually USE the records in the Record System but they were sure getting better at making the entries. SIGH !!! On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:41 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, Everyone has good security until someone does something like take a disk home or there is a break in and the server gets stolen... or there is a hack. I understand you want a simpler life. I also understand that some are willing to give up their rights to feel safer. I disagree with both. Anytime you add your information to a database, no matter what the database, you are subject to it being compromised and your data being made public, as in my example. An I understand it is a personal choice. Until it is required by law I will not put any of my medical info anywhere. Keith Smith --- On *Wed, 3/13/13, j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com* wrote: From: j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com Subject: Re: OT: (or not?) What is the best PHR Personal Health Record service? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 2:05 PM I think Joe is talking about personal tracking... not some central service, right? Eric Actually, no, I am interested in finding/choosing an online PHR. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.orghttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: mounts cd twice
So this clearly shows that you DO have things mounted on /media. Specifically the bmike1 base which was your experiment to move your data files elsewhere. Mike, read the first paragraph of prose in the man page on mount. On Feb 22, 2013 1:04 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: no one suggested it but I did run it. mount /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw) none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620) tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755) none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880) none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) none on /run/user type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=104857600,mode=0755) /dev/sda6 on /home type ext4 (rw) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/bmike1/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=bmike1) /dev/sda9 on /media/bmike1/backtrack type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2) /dev/sda7 on /media/bmike1/entertainment type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2) /dev/sda8 on /media/bmike1/F3E7-6D4B type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: I’m sorry, I haven’t been watching this thread very closely - did anybody ask about doing ‘mount’ to see what it thinks is mounted? ** ** Rusty ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Havens *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2013 1:51 PM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: mounts cd twice ** ** it was worth a shot! ** ** --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Windows cleaner
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Re: xbmcbuntu
I have no way to answer that really. Look at what the Startup Disk Creator told you it needed for that image and then add however much persistent storage (up to 4 GB) you want and get that size stick. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I guess my 2 gig stick is too small. How big do I need? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: No, Ubuntu will not do that. In fact, I did not know that Knoppix would either. Puppy and one or two others will. That said, you cound use Startup Disk Creator to install the XBMCubtuntu on a stick and slide the Persistence Slider all the way to the right. That will give you space for saving settings on the stick. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: XMBCbuntu works from the live version. I knew a guy in Phoenix who used to have a knoppix disk loaded in his computer and he ran knoppix live off of his computer and it would save his settings and stuff. Will ubuntu do the same thing? How would I go about doing it? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: After update/upgrade in Debian Testing, my NIC stopped Working
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: Rusty, Thanks for your response. Isn't synaptic just a gui front-end for aptitude? Or are there three different ways to update...apt, aptitude, and synaptic? and now the Software Center or whatever your distro calls it. But yes, I do believe I read years ago that each of those just used the next layer down (pretty much the Unix/Linux way). Mark Sent from my Android phone. On Feb 6, 2013 10:04 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: I am sorry that I’m not going to be any help - but I’d like to comment that I almost always use synaptic for installs and updates. One time when I used aptitude it messed up the dependencies and left my computer broken. That happened once with apt as well. ** ** I seem to recall that I fixed it by switching back to synaptic, but I’m getting old and my memory may be wrong there ;-) ** ** Plus, you’ve tried to manually install drivers, so synaptic probably won’t help. ** ** Sorry! Good luck! ** ** Rusty ** ** ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:44 AM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* After update/upgrade in Debian Testing, my NIC stopped Working ** ** ** ** I am running Debian testing (amd64) and after running an aptitude update/upgrade my wired network stopped working. I get a cable unplugged message. The cable is OK and the router is OK and the link pulses are there. My wireless is still working. ** ** --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: xbmcbuntu
No, Ubuntu will not do that. In fact, I did not know that Knoppix would either. Puppy and one or two others will. That said, you cound use Startup Disk Creator to install the XBMCubuntu on a stick and slide the Persistence Slider all the way to the right. That will give you space for saving settings on the stick. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: XMBCbuntu works from the live version. I knew a guy in Phoenix who used to have a knoppix disk loaded in his computer and he ran knoppix live off of his computer and it would save his settings and stuff. Will ubuntu do the same thing? How would I go about doing it? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: burning iso
put it on a stick as intended and make a bootable cd for http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html which will support your ability to boot from a usb stick even on a computer that does not support doing so. That way you can boot the cd and it will then let you boot from the usb stick. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm d/l xbmcbuntu (I can't get rid of the mute in the program version) the live version of xbmc. The instructions say it is supposed to be put on a USB but the computer I am putting it on won't boot from USB. so I need to put it on a CD. I'm in the process of the d/l now and I can't see what the file type is that is being d/l but with this littele bit of info could you tell me if I will have a problem putting it onto a cd? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: friend is coming to the installfest on the second!
I just meant the standard windows disk cleanup. Once it deletes extra files, they are not seen by defrag so are immaterial. That is good enough. The bigger issue is the existing partitioning and no movable files and we deal with those at the fest. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: I've always used eraser (http://eraser.heidi.ie/) to do the same thing. I zero out all the space on a VM and turned it into a sparse file so that it takes up hardly any space. I've even been known to put a VM that is bigger than the entire hosts hard drive using the same technique. Sounds like a bad idea, but I was tending to run the VM in immutable mode, so the VMs HD didn't get any bigger and was never in any danger of filling up the hosts hard drive, but it allowed me to have a generic VM that I could use as writable on some systems and that would leave me enough space to install software if I needed to. Brian Cluff On 01/31/2013 07:47 PM, Stephen wrote: They might be talking about sdelete. I use it when prepping and condensing windows vm's for making templates or condensing/shrinking. http://technet.microsoft.com/**en-us/sysinternals/bb897443.**aspxhttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443.aspx On Jan 31, 2013 7:44 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: yeah I googled it and could only find 'disk cleanup' so I figured that is what was meant. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Disk tools cleanup or you talking that purging the deleted files and free space? On Jan 31, 2013 3:52 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: wait a second.. what is 'disk clean'? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: already did. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com mailto:lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: We will look for her. If she wants to dual-boot with Windows, ask her to disk clean and defrag Windows before Saturday. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: A woman I know in Mesa is coming to get linux put on her computer on the second. She is even bringing her ex-boyfriend. Her name is Angie. :-)~MIKE~(-: --** - PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**phxlinux.orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/** mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**phxlinux.orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/** mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**phxlinux.orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/**mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.**orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**phxlinux.orgPLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
Re: Upgrade to Debian testing hosed my system
to Debian testing. The upgrade did not generate any error messages, but when I rebooted I could not ssh into the box (connection refused) nor do I get any output on a monitor I attached to the box (no signal). Apache does not appear to be running either on the box (could not connect to the box). I can successfully ping the box. Any suggestions on how to fix this this server would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss ** ** --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: SCaLE 11x discount
I was going to skip this year but after looking at the talks, I went ahead and scheduled it. I am again flying though. $147 on US Air to save the drive time seemed like a no brainer. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:56 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, SCaLE is once again giving us a discount on registration. There's also currently a discount for early bird registration that expires Tuesday, so register now :). PLUG is the discount code. Enter it on the first screen of the registration. https://reg.socallinuxexpo.**org/reg6/https://reg.socallinuxexpo.org/reg6/ Speakers and talks are now listed on the site. I've already found many that I need to see :). We also have 3 people from the list and a former participant with accepted talks. https://www.socallinuxexpo.**org/scale11x/presentationshttps://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x/presentations ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Molotov Bible - religion thrown at other people in order to cause an # explosive situation - der.hans -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:41:10 -0800 From: i...@socallinuxexpo.org Subject: [SCALE 11X] Discounts, UpSCALE and more First things first: The SCALE Team wishes everyone a happy and prosperous 2013 as we head toward the first major Linux/FOSS event of the year in North America, SCALE 11X. Without further delay, the first of many SCALE 11X announcements for 2013 includes: – Early bird discount closes next week: Don't be late – the early bird registration discount closes next week on Tuesday, Jan. 8. After that date, the registration kicks up to its normal rate, so don't delay. To take advantage of the discount until Jan. 8, visit https://reg.socallinuxexpo.**org/reg6/https://reg.socallinuxexpo.org/reg6/to see the discounted rates and to register. On Jan. 9, registration continues until the start of the show at the regular prices. – UpSCALE Talks: Got something to say? Can you get it all said within five minutes while your slide show goes on behind you? Then you're the perfect candidate for the annual UpSCALE Talks at SCALE 11X. Like the Ignite presentations at O'Reilly events, UpSCALE talks allow speakers to give a quick presentation while the speaker's 20 automatically-advanced slides are shown. Want to beat the clock? For more information on submitting an UpSCALE talk, visit https://www.socallinuxexpo.**org/scale11x/upscalehttps://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x/upscale – SCALE: The Next Generation: In its second year, the Southern California Linux Expo will host a “youth driven” conference where the Free Open Source Software community leaders of tomorrow can spotlight their talents and ideas today. Youths are encouraged to determine the content and help steer the direction that this mini-conference will take. The Call for Papers for young people to present at SCALE: TNG are being accepted. For more information about how you, or your child (or your parent) can get involved, visit https://www.socallinuxexpo.**org/scale11x/scale-next-**generationhttps://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x/scale-next-generation SCALE 11X will be held Feb. 22-24, 2013, at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport hotel. For more information, visit http://www.socallinuxexpo.org Once again, the SCALE team wishes everyone a happy 2013! -- If you do not want to receive any more newsletters, https://lists.linuxfests.org/**lists/?p=unsubscribeuid=** 2be2ca97a16f187cbe35a12d63433a**6fhttps://lists.linuxfests.org/lists/?p=unsubscribeuid=2be2ca97a16f187cbe35a12d63433a6f To update your preferences and to unsubscribe visit https://lists.linuxfests.org/**lists/?p=preferencesuid=** 2be2ca97a16f187cbe35a12d63433a**6fhttps://lists.linuxfests.org/lists/?p=preferencesuid=2be2ca97a16f187cbe35a12d63433a6f Forward a Message to Someone https://lists.linuxfests.org/**lists/?p=forwarduid=** 2be2ca97a16f187cbe35a12d63433a**6fmid=64https://lists.linuxfests.org/lists/?p=forwarduid=2be2ca97a16f187cbe35a12d63433a6fmid=64 -- powered by phpList, www.phplist.com -- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to do a fresh install and protect /home ?
If/when you tell the installer to mount sda6 as /home, be sure to use the same file system type and if the is a check box for whether to format the partition, be sure it remains UN-checked. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.comwrote: While you're installing kubuntu, choose to manually configure partitions. Either do nothing with /dev/sda6 or choose to mount it as /home. I have one whole drive for my home directory. Everything else is installed on another drive. Recently I tried several distros. With each distro I chose the option to configure partitions myself instead of letting it do the job. I would either choose during the install to mount that drive as my home directory or do nothing with it during the install and add it to fstab later. On 01/04/2013 12:37 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: How can I do a fresh install of kubuntu on one of my systems that now has a corrupted pclinux installed, but protect the /home partition from being over-written? Can this be done safely? 'df' shows the following: /dev/sda1 12G 5.7G 5.6G 51% / tmpfs 473M 0 473M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda6 168G 23G 146G 14% /home --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual. Patrick Moore --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
