Re: OT: hardware question

[Vaughn Treude]

Jason Spatafore wrote:
> If you're attaching the CD-ROM's with the same cable or on the same 
> IDE channel, I would suspect the cable or channel on the motherboard.
>  
> Does the problem go away if you use a different cable?
> Does it go away if you connect to a different bus?
>  
Changing the cable didn't fix it.
Yep, I'm in the habit of setting the jumpers, as a lot of my hardware is 
old. :-)
I suspect you're right about the bus.

Vaughn

> Have you tried connecting the CD-ROM to the same cable as the hard drive?
> Did you make sure you set master/slave instead of relying on cable 
> select settings? (Which don't work in such old hardware.)
>  
> Anyway, may things could be the root cause. I hope these suggestions 
> help.
>  
>  
>  
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Lisa Kachold 
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> 
> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 10:55 AM
> *Subject:* RE: OT: hardware question
>
> A 300 MHz is going to be a tad slow.  The current requirements for
> FreeGeek recycled equipment are 500Mhz and the older equipment
> works great for most users.   After all what are we doing but
> browsing? 
>
> The best tool in my bag is a Big TACK or twisty wire with the
> plastic bitten off at that base, to insert into the tiny CDROM
> hole and release the drive bay door.
>
> It's the "Hal 9000 drive bay door problem""I am sorry Dave, I
> can't do that..." Arthur C. Clark
>
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> 
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:42:03 -0700
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: OT: hardware question
> >
> >
> > Vaughn Treude wrote:
> > > Hello, everyone. Here's an OT question that is at least
> > > computer-related. :-)
> > >
> > > I'm trying to resurrect an old 300 MHz PC I was using to run
> an ISA
> > > scope card, and to run an old test suite that only works on -
> get ready
> > > for this - Windows 95. (It worked fine for that.) I was having
> trouble
> > > with the CD-ROM drive. I replaced it with four others from my
> "old
> > > hardware" supplies in my closet, and none appeared to work.
> The drives
> > > would power up and the BIOS would recognize them but none
> wanted to
> > > eject the tray. (Actually, one one of them, the tray would
> work a couple
> > > times and then be stuck closed until I cycled power.) Could
> all these
> > > drives be bad, or could it be that the old generic 300W power
> supply was
> > > flakey?
> > >
> > > I happened to have a relatively new Antec supply; I'd swapped
> it out on
> > > a newer machine on which I'd suspected supply problems. Well, the
> > > problem wasn't the supply, but I was too lazy to return the
> new supply
> > > to Fry's, so I kept this one as a spare. So I thought, good
> opportunity
> > > to test my theory.
> > >
> > > Turns out that is is an old PC Chips M565 motherboard, sort of
> an AT/ATX
> > > hybrid. It has both types of power connectors, so was able to
> hook up
> > > the Antec. Then I discovered that the little switch connector
> on the
> > > corner has NO remote power switch pins. It has suspend, reset,
> turbo
> > > LED, etc. But no pins marked power or PS or RPS. I even
> downloaded the
> > > manual, which was no help.
> > >
> > >
> > Never mind, I re-read the manual. Supposedly the suspend switch
> input
> > can work as a power switch, if you hold it down for several
> seconds.
> > That didn't work, of course. I like to think I'm being frugal by
> > reclaiming old PC's, as I did with this one a few years back. But -
> > there's a reason computer hardware is cheap. :-)
> > Vaughn
> >
> > > So this is weird. They _have_ an ATX power connector, but no
> switch
> > > pins. The Antec has a rocker switch on the back, but switching
> that does
> > > nothing, as I expected. Do I now have to swap the old supply
> back in and
> > > hope the problem was something else? (Like four bad drives?
> Perhaps the
> > > IDE2 port is malfunctioning and somehow confusing the drive?
> Maybe,
> > > though I was actually able to access the CD during the brief
> time the
> > > tray worked on one of them.)
> > >
> > > Or is there some sneaky way to make the Antec power up?
> > > Thanks for any help I can get from the hardware hackers among us.
> > >
> > > Vaughn
> > >
> > >
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Re: Infiltrating my brothers Auto repair shop

[Stephen]

Google fu must be strong here are some things that have come up...

http://www.windriver.com/products/platforms/automotive/
http://www.dashwerks.com/
http://www.dashpc.com/

not sure what you are looking for but some sort of
inventory/invoicing/quoting system would be needed and the obvious
office applications...


let me know if you would like i can point you at a equivalence list
for software.


On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:14 PM, James Finstrom
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> So my brother owns a local auto repair business and is pretty well
> computerized. There are some applications that require windows to run and
> wine doesn't cut it. What I would like to do is to take his current needs
> and exploit those so I can widdle away his dependencies and bring him to
> Linux. Currently he needs a shop management program and I thought this would
> be perfect. I have googled but the spammers own and I have had no luck. Does
> anyone know of a Linux based Automotive shop management application I can
> run under Linux?
>
>
>
>
>
> James Finstrom
> Rhino Equipment Corp.
> All Rhino products are made in America, 100% Money Back Guarantee, and have
> a 5 Year warranty.
> Sometimes for it to "just work" you have to think outside the box!
> Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826
> IP: asterisk.rhinoequipment.com ~ FWD: 633686
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HackFest Series: BackTrack

[Lisa Kachold]

Most of you should have been able to successfully boot the Obnosis BackTrack 
LiveCD you picked up at UAT during the 10/11/08 HackFest using one of your 
other computers by now?


Reference the updated HackFest Overview Presentation materials here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6680231/Hack-Fest

Proceed to Lab 0 - Investigating Backtrack

This link shows you exactly how to do 3 things with bt:

http://isisblogs.poly.edu/2008/04/08/backtrack-3-demos-of-selected-tools/

Remember Backtrack doesn't have ALL THE SAME OLD tools as Knoppix STD - but 
there are more than one set of tools available in security distros that are 
easy to use and provide information.

http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2007/07/10/walkthrough-of-every-backtrack-2-tools/

Setup a nice SNORT and watch your local networks?  Lab 5 - IDS
 
Here's a link on how to Snort for bt fluxbox (under KDE it's right on the Menu):

http://securitydistro.com/tutorials/156/BackTrack-v20-and-Snort-for-the-Rapid-Deployment-of-Network-Intrusion-Detection-System.php
  

Try to get used to DOING like you will at work, in practical sessions rather 
than KNOWING.  Develop hypothesis to see what happens, define your goals, 
evaluate your assumptions; learn how to know without standard education, by 
doing in practical sessions.
When you get lost in the data, go back to when you last felt fine, and define 
your assumptions and goals, look up your words.

Watch for the Vista Challenge next LAB!

“Security
is, I would say, our top priority because for all the exciting things
you will be able to do with computers - organizing your lives, staying
in touch with people, being creative - if we don't solve these security 
problems, then people will hold back.”  Bill Gates

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Obnosis || http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obnosis | 
Obnosis.com (503)754-4452

Laugh at this MSN Footer

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Infiltrating my brothers Auto repair shop

[James Finstrom]

Greetings,

So my brother owns a local auto repair business and is pretty well
computerized. There are some applications that require windows to run and
wine doesn't cut it. What I would like to do is to take his current needs
and exploit those so I can widdle away his dependencies and bring him to
Linux. Currently he needs a shop management program and I thought this would
be perfect. I have googled but the spammers own and I have had no luck. Does
anyone know of a Linux based Automotive shop management application I can
run under Linux?





James Finstrom
Rhino Equipment Corp.
All Rhino products are made in America, 100% Money Back Guarantee, and have
a 5 Year warranty.
Sometimes for it to "just work" you have to think outside the box!
Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826
IP: asterisk.rhinoequipment.com ~ FWD: 633686

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Re: OT: Are you a PC? Show the World

[GK]

Plagarism is the highest flattery. I took most of what you have placed and 
made a couple of changes. My signature was longer but this is cooler :)

-- 
GPG signed 
11FD 290A FAAE 07A7 9876 37AC D14F 11D6 0831 0392

I am a PC,
I run GNU/Linux,
I dont worry about viruses, spyware, malware and adware;
I am not tied down my licensing,
I am free to install an un holy amount of applications at no charge,
I am free to update my OS if I choose,
I am free to NOT update my OS if I choose...

you get the point 

Encryption of data and emails is encouraged and welcomed with GnuPG.


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Anybody experienced Kurumin NG (Kubuntu variant)?

[Josef Lowder]

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   

Kurumin NG - New Distribution Announcement

As the new release cycle kicks off with new versions of popular
software, we are happy to welcome Kurumin NG to the operating system
lineup. http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/582

Kurumin NG 8.06 is a Brazilian created Linux desktop distribution
based on Kubuntu 8.04, but enhanced with features developed earlier by
the Kurumin and Kalango projects. The boot menu offers both English
and Portuguese.

On-Disk.com took Kurumin NG for a test drive and found it to be a very
crisp and clean. In our opinion it has a nicer look and feel than
Kubuntu. In addition, the 8.06 version contains many Kubuntu "Hardy
Heron" updates, so if you are waiting for the new Kubuntu release at
the end of the month, Kurumin NG may be worth trying.

For more information or to order visit:
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Re: OT: Are you a PC? Show the World

[James Finstrom]

They have another ad the mojave or something experiment where they
show end users video of vusta in action and ut gets rave reviews. I
thought wow someone do that with one of the million youtube vids of
compiz we can wow the end user world without them actualy touching the
os

On 10/15/08, Ted Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 04:41 +, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>> Laugh at this Windows Live SPAM
>
> I'd have to say that I actually like this ad campaign.  It's positive
> and promotes users instead of some pseudo feature.  It is nice to see
> them being constructive instead of tearing down the competition.
>
> I'd actually go as far to say that this is exactly the type of campaign
> that Linux needs.  Users of Linux have been stereotyped to be geeks, or
> very technical, and most feel that you need a CS degree to use Linux.
> Those are wrong, we all know that, but it's hard to get that message
> out.  Perhaps someday I'll have a few hundred million for an ad
> campaign :)
>
>   --Ted
>
>

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James Finstrom
Rhino Equipment Corp.
All Rhino products are made in America, 100% Money Back Guarantee, and
have a 5 Year warranty.
 Sometimes for it to "just work" you have to think outside the box!
Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826
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Re: OT: Are you a PC? Show the World

[Ted Gould]

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 04:41 +, Lisa Kachold wrote:
> Laugh at this Windows Live SPAM

I'd have to say that I actually like this ad campaign.  It's positive
and promotes users instead of some pseudo feature.  It is nice to see
them being constructive instead of tearing down the competition.

I'd actually go as far to say that this is exactly the type of campaign
that Linux needs.  Users of Linux have been stereotyped to be geeks, or
very technical, and most feel that you need a CS degree to use Linux.
Those are wrong, we all know that, but it's hard to get that message
out.  Perhaps someday I'll have a few hundred million for an ad
campaign :)

--Ted



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Re: OT: Are you a PC? Show the World

[Tuna]

Lisa Kachold wrote:
> Laugh at this Windows Live SPAM
> 

Yeah, I saw that. Those commercials are spam upon my TV.
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