Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 1:26:24 PM Arun Khan wrote: As Darth has suggested; add unwanted subject headers to your kill filter. Tolerance of mind and thought is definitely not a virtue, even if it is so, it can also be inculcated with practice. Now what one wants to practice and does not want to adhere to, is one's choice... By exercising your choice, you are acting, the question is on behalf of whom? Just be patient, this ghost, the ghost of ignorance, is going to climb down right in front of your very eyes on your own mailing list... -- Teacher: 2 Teach is 2 Err, 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 1:26:24 PM Arun Khan wrote: On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे Let us disect the problem as if we are solving some code (may be a psedo code) and help all understand if there is actually a problem, and if so where that could be... Observations: 1. Darth did not suggest kill filters, he just advised to use filters. 2. Arun added the work kill, as his own work of art. 3. Arun Khan email id is knura9. 4. महासागर's email if o.s.h.o 5. In o.s.h.o, the first and forth characters are same. 6. In arun Khan's email id, last character is 9 while his email ID is a crypt of his own name. 7. Whos is fault for issuing the word KILL? This is not an answer, but a question based on all the observation one to six...!!! 8. And there could be more of such which others can see by careful scrutiny of mailing list communications. -- Teacher: 2 Teach is 2 Err, 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 5:10:19 PM Shirish Padalkar wrote: I share the same feeling as Mandar. I already sent a private message to म.हा.सा.ग.र , but he made it public to mailing list, which in my opinion is unfortunate. @Arun, sadly, my replies to the mailing list are still getting your message is pending approval. :( With regards, Shirish Padalkar http://twitter.com/_Garbage_ When replying personally to an address (harvested) from public mailing list, a customary permission to speak, i.e. communicate personally, is sought before advising anything in private. This is what they don't teach you as a mailing list etiquette, neither it is (probably) part of netiquette. That was a real big mistake. The rest is found by reading the signature at the end of this message. Unfortunately you are fortunate enough to get your messages moderated. I do not have that luxury anymore :-) -- Teacher: 2 Teach is 2 Err, 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] for information of honourable plug mailing list members, and administrators!!!
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [PLUG] Permission deny-ed Date: Sunday 07 Apr 2013, 9:17:13 AM From: Shirish Padalkar shirish4...@gmail.com To: o.s@guruvision.com, Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List plug- m...@plug.org.in Hi, I am sorry if you (Mahasagar?) are offended by my email. And sorry other PLUG members for the spam below: The email was sent directly to you and not on the PLUG list. I joined the list, so that I can continue learning what is happening in PLUG, even if I am unable to attend the PLUG meetings. And anything which doesn't talk about PLUG on PLUG mailing list is a spam for me. Correct me if I am wrong. In one of the earlier emails, when Arun Bhat asked permission to attend the meeting, and Manjusha replied it is open to all, I think everybody got her point. I personally don't think it was necessary to give english gyan to all the people in PLUG mailing list. At least, IMO, that's spam! I apologize if you think I offended you, but I used my freedom to express my feelings, and I did NOT use PLUG mailing list for it earlier. With regards, Shirish Padalkar http://twitter.com/_Garbage_ If any of you felt offended, you may accept his apology, I was not offended so there is no need for me to accept his apology. Usually Your and Only Occasionally Selfishly Mine, The Understated... and of-course, Over-estimated -- Teacher: 2 Teach is 2 Err, 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 6:07:19 PM Shirish Padalkar wrote: Hi, I don't think advising anything or suggesting anything on your behavior should be called out in public directly. That is the reason I send the email to you and not the list. And BTW, don't you think harvested is a bit harsh word, considering your email is always visible when you are posting to mailing list? If you think I should have questioned your behavior publicly before talking to you privately, I am sorry. Also probably using my twitter username to describe my intentions than trying to understand is part of netiquette which I am not aware of. Finally, I don't think there is any more point arguing with you on this point on a public mailing list and spamming the list, so I will just shut up and you can have your way. Enjoy! :) It would have been a great example, if you had actually behaved the way you intended to be, instead of telling me what you are going to do now! केल्याने होत आहे रे, आधी केलेच पाहिजे અસે કાહિતરી કુઠેતરી વાચલ્યાચે આઠવતે... વિવેકાનંદાંચ્યા છાતાડાવર રામકઋષ્ણાંની પાય દિલ્યાવર તે કાય ઓરડલે તવઢે જરી ખબર અસલે તરી ઉત્તમ...!!! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 11:20:42 PM Dnyanraj Mali wrote: Your suggestion is highly welcome. Just in case my identity is not known, don't worry too much, it is be best described in this link... http://aathavanitli-gani.com/Song/Bin_Bhintichi_Ughadi Don't want you to unnecessarily tax the moderators. Hence I resign, that's called revealing! EOT (that is not usual End of Transmission, rather it is End of Thread, for me) दोरा संपला! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Permission to attend today's meeting
On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 11:27:55 AM Manjusha Joshi wrote: You are welcome to attend the meeting. It is open to all. -Manjusha Open to all is a wrong english, just like abbreviations are to be avoided on mailing list... What would correct english would be? :-) It's free to all and open those who care to venture and arrive there...!!! On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Arun Bhat arunbha...@gmail.com wrote: M/s Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Me and my colleague Mr Gaurav Mohite, wish to attend today's meeting at Location: SICSR, Atur Centre, Model Colony, Pune Room No 704, 7th floor ( room no. may change ) Time: 5:00 pm Monetory obligations if any, shall gladly bear when we meet Regards A. Bhat Raj Biotech ( India ) Pvt Ltd Kothrud 9822025255 ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 1:46:14 PM Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: Is he one of the moderators/admins/power-to-be ? I almost never understand his emails (May be problem lies with me) but I am certain that that 99% of his emails are NEVER ABOUT LINUX !!! (May be that is why I don't understand his emails) That is almost like saying, I do not know what is philosophy so leave (give?) me alone.. AND that, I think is definitely easier than understanding MAR Initially there were dos doors only until the advent of animal called Linux, that is when people realised that we need GNU's NOT too!!! Enjoy! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] Permission deny-ed
On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 8:53:14 PM Shirish Padalkar wrote: Hey hi, I am not sure why you are saying something like that on mailing list, but I don't think that was necessary. If you don't mind and don't have anything useful to contribute to the conversation, can you please stop spamming the list? Thanks. What I wrote was definitely not a spam, but what you are doing is definitely called (harvesting email addresses with an intent to) spam :-) What I have written was (perceived) essence of what philosophy could be about... Of-course none of it could be interesting to and become known to you if you do not attend the PLUG meeting... Did I attend the PLUG meeting of April 6, 2013? That question is better answered by people who attended the plug meeting.. शिका आणि लठ्ठ व्हा...!!! -- Teacher: 6. 2 Teach is 2 Err, 7. 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! 8 विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [confirmation] PLUG meeting on 7th April at 5pm @SICSR
On Thursday 04 Apr 2013 10:25:31 PM Darth Chatri wrote: On 04-Apr-2013, at 8:05 PM, Manjusha Joshi wrote: Hello,* *PLUG meeting for month of April 2013 is scheduled on Saturday 7th April, 5:00 pm @ SICSR I presume you mean Saturday 6th April? D Dart, Your interpretation is wrong there... Saturday is Seventh (heaven), you should have asked the apt question... as to which part of earth we will philosophically be while attending it... The answer to which is found by studying the time zone of earth-linguistic measurement of time... You may open that Chatri now, as it is likely to rain in Monsoon!!! :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [confirmation] PLUG meeting on 7th April at 5pm @SICSR
Darth, Your interpretation is wrong there... Saturday is Seventh (heaven), you should have asked the apt question... as to which part of earth we will philosophically be while attending it... The answer to which is found by studying the time zone of earth-linguistic measurement of time... You may open that Chatri now, as it is likely to rain in Monsoon!!! In year 2013, now in the remaining time, only September and December months have 7th on Saturday... (Green)Wich one would you prefer to be in...?? We all are everybody is already working in December...!!! Hope you can dicephir the kode of konduct, without using the actual **duct tape***!! :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune
On Tuesday 05 Mar 2013 5:11:43 PM Arun Tomar wrote: The way you posted a response can be way to think for others of how to answer when a question falls in your zone, without being a pushy sales person This is not to blame others but your response was narrative enough to educate me, a usual bystander, a novice in this technology field to make sense of possible problems with connectivity solutions... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune
On Wednesday 06 Mar 2013 11:22:29 AM Arun Khan wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Devendra Laulkar Yeah, Iqara was the original name; I could not recollect the name. Pardon the ignorential bliss, but the sen-10-se would be... Yeah, Iqara was the original **name**; I could not recollect the **same**. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Kernel Talks / Canceled [02-Mar-2013] / Refactor Request
On Friday 01 Mar 2013 12:13:26 PM Sunil Beta Baskar wrote: PS: Cross posting on PLUG as well as PLUG-unmoderated You may call it as ... PS: Cross posting on PLUG as well as PLUG-unGoderated... and then think of it in terms of The God factor called ignusious etc. etc... Just makes it more hilarious, isn't it??? ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [CoFSUG] Need an LCD Monitor for 2 days for science day 2013 at Narayangaon, Pune
The message was received today, which is bit of a late in a day to offer any lcd monitor. That is the bottomline here. Only the monitor could have been spared and shared for a day or two, as the system with Debian GNU/Linux is not present with the monitor. Hope the problem is overcome with some help from someone else wise and other- wise... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [Event Report] GNUnify 2013, SICSR, Pune, India, February 15-17, 2013
On Tuesday 19 Feb 2013 9:19:59 AM Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, [8] Photos. http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album87 thank you maan!!! for re-porting GNUNIFY to PLUG mailing list being absent this time, better self-luck next time.. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Creator of RSS passes away
who is the referee (retermed as free) in deciding on such matters which need ample amount of wasted time and paper as well as zombie stated cpu cycles, is probably first ? that needs definision ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] To moderate or to unmoderate
On Saturday 26 Jan 2013 11:12:42 AM Arun Khan wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Koustubh Sinkar wrote: In the true sense of things, Self Moderation of any this is the best moderation of anything... now that can not work for all, because all are not born equal, so there has to be a way to help people how to live with moderation, and how to become self moderated individual... Rest everything is non-duality of principals!!! Non-duality means individuality in the true sense of the spirit of freedom and free living as well as leaving!!! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Creator of RSS passes away
On Saturday 19 Jan 2013 12:13:45 AM Praveen A wrote: 2013/1/18 Amarendra Godbole amarendra.godb...@gmail.com: [...] I have read all articles about him, and still maintain my belief - Robin Hoods like him do more harm than good. Probably Free Software needs folks like him, not Open Source. ;-) I guess. That is why we need Free Software and not Open Source ;-) Me guesses, that is why we really do not need any software, but just the hardware :-) With freedom to build software ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mailing list issues - Quick vote
On Tuesday 08 Jan 2013 5:01:49 PM ag@gmail wrote: A: +1. Open as in OpenBSD, and not Linux. -ag -- pl. excuse brevity and possible typos, sent from a tiny device. On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Kaustubh Gadkari kaustubh.gadk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thin Rhino trml...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on what is expected. A quick vote should help. A: Open up the list completely, no moderation B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basic moderation in place C: Let it be as it is, no change Please vote: A: +1 or B: +1 or C +1 A:+1. If this means more spam, so be it. Actually why there is no D option is what I am currently wondering... Let it make it more attractive for more people to fall prey to this campaign, that is option D. D: 0+1=1; ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mailing list issues - Quick vote
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2013 6:25:28 PM steve wrote: On Saturday 05 January 2013 09:55 AM, Thin Rhino wrote: The issue is been dragged on for ages and I also see a lot of confusion on what is expected. A quick vote should help. A: Open up the list completely, no moderation B: Remove restrictive moderation, keep basic moderation in place C: Let it be as it is, no change Please vote: A: +1 or B: +1 or C +1 A: +1. I'm a lurker on most lists that are moderated because I have 0 motivation to be an active participant, if I know that my mail has a chance of being 'stuck', however, slim it might be. cheers, - steve Test of happiness is in eating the puding not staring at it... Using the analogy I am for C: 0+=1; The classical test of one's mind stability is in how long can that person hold forth his/her breath, so when actually he/she is needed to hold it, there is no such pressure!!! ***Mind Your language*** means a lot many different things to different people...!!! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] mailing list issues
On Friday 04 Jan 2013 9:56:47 PM jayant ogale wrote: the women ask for the unlimited freedom of dressing, movement etc. the men will ask their freedom for harrasment [you know what i mean]. caution...::: there should never be a plan to use the word harassment, too much phonetics involved in and around it, bars it from colloquial usage...!!! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mailing list issues
On Monday 31 Dec 2012 3:03:51 PM ag@gmail wrote: A locked down list is next to useless, and that is what plug is for me now. Probably one reason why plug meets never garner more support. No question is stupid and when someone moves over to Linux, he/she has many many questions. If plug is not designed to answer newbie questions, there is no charter that says so. Learning to extract answers from thick skinned old agers is also a part of learning of any technology, with or without Linux... The impatient ones will always **Blame it on Rio** Keeping secret the id of mods is the most stupid thing I have heard, besides Linux! ;-) Sure, I hope one does not need an explanation for this kind of comment!! It is never too late to make changes, if necessary. It would take less time to make changes than write a history of how things came to be. There is never a history of things to come... it's called his story of things to come...!!! -ag ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Why I'm a Pirate!
It usually is conscious decision made by an individual whether to use something or not when product of workmanship has reached him/her without him/her being directly aware of the antecedants of the ownership and/or roots of the product nobody can be immediately and expressly held responsible for such an action. The possible remedial measures need to arrive first. So while propoganda machinery of Antipiracy Movement has their own reasons (survival) opponents also do have their own reasons... the true path is somewhere in the middle... the self reasonsing and being sensible is usually the correct approach. -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Why I'm a Pirate!
The truthfully honest (oops what does that really mean?) restatement (positioning) is Thou Art Not An Agent Of Antipiracy Movement! -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Announcing the release of Fedora 16
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the release of Fedora 16 (Verne). This release is dedicated to Dennis Ritchie, co-inventer of Unix and the C language. ¿¿¿nunciation of Verne? -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] PLUG meeting for November 2011
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:59 PM, jayant ogale jaog...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi, PLUG meeting for November 2011 is scheduled on Saturday 5th ?November, 5:30 pm @ SICSR (Note the change in timing. It is 5:30 pm instead of usual 4pm) Wow, a highly welcome change of scheduled time to start a meeting, after so many long years... That is because of the exams in SICSR till 5 pm. We had similar change in timings in some earlier meetings also. Somehow, there is hardly any effect on the no. of attendees due to this. An artist of International repute performing Indian Classical Music once told in an interview, that no. of people attending my (read... his) concert does not bother me (read.. him), because I (read.. he) do not perform for them... It is the internal bliss that is attained which is more important than joy of performing in public This communication therefore, in reference to the PLUG meetings, may be called e-bliss! -- ?. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! ?. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ?. No question is ever stupid! my dear friend, plug meeting is neither a performing art nor an entertaing event. jayant My Dear Pluggie, All the office bearer of any registered organization are performing their (what?) by announcing a meeting on the mailing list every month. If there are no duties, there is no need for registering an organization... This is quite simple and still the most stupid answer to your hightly intelligent question! -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Confirmation: PLUG meeting for November 2011 is scheduled on Saturday 5th November, 5:30 pm @ SICSR
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2011/11/3 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Hi, PLUG meeting for November 2011 is scheduled on Saturday 5th November, 5:30 pm @ SICSR (Note the change in timing. It is 5:30 pm instead of usual 4pm) Wow, a highly welcome change of scheduled time to start a meeting, after so many long years... That is because of the exams in SICSR till 5 pm. We had similar change in timings in some earlier meetings also. Somehow, there is hardly any effect on the no. of attendees due to this. An artist of International repute performing Indian Classical Music once told in an interview, that no. of people attending my (read... his) concert does not bother me (read.. him), because I (read.. he) do not perform for them... It is the internal bliss that is attained which is more important than joy of performing in public This communication therefore, in reference to the PLUG meetings, may be called e-bliss! -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Confirmation: PLUG meeting for November 2011 is scheduled on Saturday 5th November, 5:30 pm @ SICSR
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Hi, PLUG meeting for November 2011 is scheduled on Saturday 5th November, 5:30 pm @ SICSR (Note the change in timing. It is 5:30 pm instead of usual 4pm) Wow, a highly welcome change of scheduled time to start a meeting, after so many long years... ~AnEmoticonOfYourCoice -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] Mandriva 2011
Perhaps a stale news... http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2011/08/28/mandriva-2011-hydrogen-is-out/ ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] ITR filing w/o proprietary s/w
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Monday 29 Aug 2011 12:01:30 AM Mayuresh wrote: While above option is open, I'd still invite technical suggestions on feasibility to extract the computational and validation rules embedded in those Excels to help write utilities of our own - or at least manually apply them and create the xmls. A problem that you already have noted, whatever efforts put in this activity will run into trouble with changes required next year. Forget about writ petition, I think bombarding few million emails to the IT and some bad press about it, might as well work. Social networking की जय :) जय हो। A stitch in टाईम saves नाईन। -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] usb drive bootable
Take it with a pinch of salt... But have you heard of a dish called boiled vegetable tossed in butter? I opine that could be either Latin alphabets sprinkled with english tongue or english alphabets sprinkled with latin characters... whichever serves the purpose well... -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Centos 5.6 x86_64 DVD required
PLUG has centos 5.6 DVDs. PLease check CD/DVD media co-ordinator... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] anybody hacking on gnome/kde contact managers?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Sarang Lakare sarang.lak...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anyone on this list working (or worked in the recent past) on any of the Linux addressbook managers? I am looking to integrate a unique contact information exchange platform into Linux desktop application. This would be the first such application available on Linux desktops that I know of, and I would like to bring it to Linux before building one for Windows (outlook). Great! If anyone is interested in hacking it, let me know. It would be a nice short term project for someone looking to learn and use web APIs. If folks on this list know someone else who might be interested, please introduce me. ? Are folks still using desktop applications for email and contact management or is everyone using online email? using desktop since i found it there to be used... what is online email, never heard of that... Only modem and communications devices stay online... rest of go offline till next refresh... :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] GNUnify '11
Does anyone have the facts about history handy? 1. When was GATE started by IITs? which year? 2. When did Bill Gates career took upward flight? Are these two events having some synchronicity? 3. When will IIT Bombay merit becoming IIT Mumbai is a good topic of research.. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Back to SquareOne
2010/10/11 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com: Now on Slackware 13.1 after a gap of 14++ years. Got it running in first go except the LILO... Hmm... still remember few things and have managed to forget most of the important ones... Fixed LILO problem and few other hiccups that came with my choice of things. Faced with difficulties of getting few things up and running as the way self is used to experience in Mandriva... 1. Networking and network profiles 2. Openoffice and possibly few other things that I have quickly forgotten to remember, I switch back to Mandriva thereafter in next 2 days. With this clean install of Mandriva, the problems I was facing with upgrade of Mandriva also went away. So Mandriva upgrade is still not as clean as it should be (I am tempted to use the name(s) of some other OS) One interesting clean upgrade process I have had a chance to observe was that of CentOS (Actually SME server). Overall Slackware is much much improved than the way I used it years ago but there is still a lot of margin for improvement when I compare it with the user experience of Mandriva :-) Maybe, maybe I am too old and really attuned to the way of thinking of Mandriva habits to quickly accept Slackware's way of working... however I have for now kept my option of switching to Slackware open with the fingers crossed, though I have switched back to Mandiva. -- A point of view also contains within another point of view! -- adapted from a wise saying of another wise soul :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Btrfs more than twice as fast compared to ext4
BTRFS option is available under custom partitioning in Mandriva Spring 2010.1, but could not get it to format my partitions for BTRFS which doing an install... Any suggestions...? ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Virus,Malware, Spyware....in linux
Use OpenDNS (www.opendns.com) as your nameservers. whatever you need is there... i believe that may also answer your question... the service(openDNS) if i recall correctly is free of charge.. -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] BIOS update under Linux...
I just upgraded the machine to Mandriva Spring 2010.1 now, and changed the boot loder back to LILO assuming it would give me equivalent of what GRUB is for loading image... and as expected, the LILO did configure it correctly though I have not used it yet... So my new lilo.conf tell me how to use images for loading... :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Brihaspati The Indian Moodle
Rarely will you learn of such accidentally triggered review process :-) On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Abhishek Nagar abhis...@nagarji.net wrote: Have someone reviewed Brihaspati so called E-learning Platform from IIT-K http://www.ugc.ac.in/more/brihaspati.html -- Regards Abhishek Nagar http://nagar.me -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Re: Government Sponsored Vendor lock
I would like to propose a start of discussion on which one is a better approach for govt. 1. Educating Dr. Anna Hajaare of the issues that we face on computing arena... 2. Taking help of the Indian arm/chapter/wing of FSF 3. Preparing (y)our own bows and arrows and start practising so that (y)our words carry little (remember just a little bit more) wait when send (y)our feedback and suggestions to such agencies... With all the very best of your desires and wishes... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Re: Government Sponsored Vendor lock
Has anybody apprised श्री अण्णा हजारे on such .tvog issues? ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Internet access
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, paras bepa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am working on FC9 on Dell Desktop. I am having two Ethernet cards, both are working properly. I can access internet using eth1 port. But when I try to access internet through eth0, it don't work. I want to access internet using eth0 port instead of eth1 port. Please help me to solve this problem. Thanks in Advance. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List Add separate default gateway for both the cards and it will work... look at your routing table and you will understand the problem. i think the command is $iptable -L or something similar... -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Notes on Upgrading... (Report: Successfully Completed Upgrade)
A slight nag post upgrade::: The LCD illumination by default has been changed to minimal and Everytime when I login *kranr* needs to be (just) started (and oked) in order to gain normal illumination (brightness and contrast) of LCD for my laptop. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] Mandriva Farman [OT]
Did anybody notice the pronunciation फर्मान of Mandriva Spring 2010 release... code name? Or is it just that I am asleep while others are wide awake... :-) -- Usually it is the reverse, that appears more straight... only untill you start walking reverse of that! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Notes on Upgrading... (Report: Successfully Completed Upgrade)
2010/7/13 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com:
helpful notes here
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.1_Notes#General_Upgrading_Steps
Don't remember having seen such in the past...
--
Indeed, for those in need!
Reporting successful upgrade following these steps (eating my own
manfood for the list)
There were couple of places where I felt that these instructions could
be better...
I followed command line and for some reason GUI kicked me out after
about 10 minutes... when I did CTL-ALT-F1 it was showing something
like restarting initrd (or something similar ...) that I have
forgotten to note down. So I rebooted shorting after starting the
upgrade process.
(I basically switched the computer on-off 4 times (for my own reasons
that it traveled with me) and completed the process.)
To ensure no (or minimal) hiccups from the second boot (first reboot
after upgrade started), i entered linux single user mode and run
init 3 There by reducing the (imaginary) problems of unbalanced
update...
{This was done after noticing a problem of new kernel and old modules
not working together in the upgrade process. So I rebooted the old
kernel and went ahead as reported above.}
I think kernel should have been upgraded way later in the process
which is not the case (may be I am not technically qualified to make
such a statement but hey, I am the sufferer :-)
Overall these instructions helped a lot in understanding and
planning the complete upgrade process.
Wish to thank the (person or) team responsible for these detailed steps...
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[PLUG] Mandriva Linux Spring 2010.1
I was ktorrenting MandrivaOne... for a reason and gateway firewall started screaming of Agent2.LFX (Trojan) from multiple seed(?)s... so abandoned the idead of downloading Mandriva One... towards 99.96% completion of the download. Posting this here as a caution! I think it is well advised to check for possybilti of rootkit in case you torrented Mandriva One Sprint 2010. Must be something to do with old M$ propoganda of Linux is a vi...@work :-) as Mandriva Free Spring 2010 download did not have such an episode.. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] Notes on Upgrading...
helpful notes here http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.1_Notes#General_Upgrading_Steps Don't remember having seen such in the past... -- Indeed, for those in need! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mandriva Linux Spring 2010.1
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/13 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com: I was ktorrenting MandrivaOne... for a reason and gateway firewall started screaming of Agent2.LFX (Trojan) from multiple seed(?)s... so abandoned the idead of downloading Mandriva One... towards 99.96% completion of the download. Posting this here as a caution! I think it is well advised to check for possybilti of rootkit in case you torrented Mandriva One Sprint 2010. Please report this back to Mandriva team. You can also tell this on their irc channel. i do not think that will be necessary as we PLUG mailing list are well watched... Just in case you have not closely monitored of the texts and updates to texts on many Linux (GNU site too)! sites over the years! Many of the things that originally were part of only PLUG mailing list have found their way into formulation of GNU docs... Of-course no sources were ever cited for such intellectual work anywhere! Hence it would be great fun to have all old archives of PLUG mailing list brought online :-) Till then I would rather wait and watch :-) Enjoy too! -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] BIOS update under Linux...
Over the last weekend i was trying to update bios of IBM Thinkpad R52
(that originally has Windows XP license which
I erased and installed Mandriva 2010 :-)
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/BIOS_Upgrade
was very helpful in understanding this difficult issue.
The only way for me now to update bios was take help of GRUB :-)
Which turned out to be a great educational exercise on grub for me as
I was completely oblivious to it and it's issues... till now.
(Luckily :-) I had EXT4 on that laptop which made my life even more fun...
After spending about a day I could manage to load run the .IMG file
of new bios but despite that could not update the bios.
With a tonnes of worries and a pinch of salt I had to switch off (a
well advised NO NO) the PC since no activity happened for 15 minutes
even after navigating inside the bios update program and hitting the
final ENTER DO NOT SWITCH OFF button. Beware, those who have
dealt with bios update may have horror stories to tell!
however from the same piece of software I could later try the third option.
{
Option 1. Read the documetation
Option 2. Update BIOS
Option 3. Update model no. etc.
}
upon executing it the machine would promptly switch off correctly.
To make the long story short has anybody recently or in the past
updated the IBM R52 bios this way under Linux...
Because else I am left with no option but to reload windows on it just
to upgrade bios... :-(
The Silver lining is Mandriva 2010 Grub as boot loader worked well
with EXT4 against some reported issues elsewhere with other distros.
Any suggestions are welcome on subject of updating IBM bios using GRUB.
The similar documentation of using LILO for the same purpose would add
more meat to the Linux Documentation Project :-)
--
The bottomine: Machine still boot and runs Mandriva 2010, though the
same behaviour is not guaranteed anywhere
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Re: [PLUG] which certification is best
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:02 PM, sachin nigade sachin.nigade2...@gmail.com wrote: plug-mail@plug.org.inDear all, I am Sachin Nigade, and not so expert as like you in Linux. I need your guidance, related with Linux certification course. Which certification will give better career in Linux field? I have searched web a lot, and got some options like Red Hat's RHCE, Ubuntu, LPI and Sun Solaris SCSA also. But need best choice, because all are very costly, in terms of self-learning, training and exam also (not less than 10,000/-) Please guide me, I am working in IT as system admin and networking engineer, having 2 years of experience in M$ environment. I dont mind for commorcial certification, but my career should be on Free-Opensource solutions. I am confused, please help me to solve this puzzle. It is likely a long journey, and there is no better way than self practice and use of Linux to switch/build career based on Free and Open Source solutions... So conserving on your resources would be the correct strategy. Your past experience will help you to the extent that you will perhaps find familiar names and concepts that are easy to relate to (assuming you are real admin and not the usual Microsoft Paper Tiger :-) The puzzle will dissolve itself once you make a beginning! http://tinyurl.com/PLUGvision -- humble beginnings have habit of later making big strides... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] My experiments with Ubuntu 10.04
In between when Mandriva Spring did not arrive on time, i decided to spend the little time I had on hand experimenting with Ubuntu 10.04 I was somewhat disappointed that after hours of struggling around and surfing the net I could not reconfigure X While installing 10.04 I used 15 LCD and later when 1912wb became available, I wanted to have that work with Ubuntu... After 2-3 days of struggle and fruitless efforts I reattached 15 LCD back to Ubuntu 10.04 and let it feel contented with it, though the later user of that machine could have greatly benefited in terms of productive use of one's eye by 19 LCD... that is exactly when I started wondering if under the disguise of simplicity the usability is actually getting impeded... Just expressing my चार आणे worth of experience! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Missing in-Action...?
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Vaibhav Dalvi vaibhav@gmail.com wrote: You should've used tinyurl or some such service. ~200 char saving!!! -- Regards, Vaibhav Dalvi A smile on your face is all I want. I was totally complacent of what that tinyurl.com stuff was till you made me aware of saving those rest of the 200 chars! thanks for the illumination! -- *miles* can be saved by letting our our e-goes deflate! ... from the house of mangoes ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Missing in-Action...?
/humour Here I found something coming straight out of *Le MIT* :-) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemagit.fr%2Farticle%2Flinux-mandriva-opensource-investisseurs%2F6613%2F1%2Fexclusif-mandriva-sauve-par-des-investisseurs%2Fsl=frtl=enhl=ie=UTF-8 Most interesting news to come out of *MIT* after RMS, I believe :-) Although I was wondering if they decided to just reclaim it as Mandriva 2011... and I found this link! humour ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Missing in-Action...?
Sorry, Here is the correct link :-) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=frtl=hiu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemagit.fr%2Farticle%2Flinux-mandriva-opensource-investisseurs%2F6613%2F1%2Fexclusif-mandriva-sauve-par-des-investisseurs%2F 2010/6/28 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com: /humour Here I found something coming straight out of *Le MIT* :-) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemagit.fr%2Farticle%2Flinux-mandriva-opensource-investisseurs%2F6613%2F1%2Fexclusif-mandriva-sauve-par-des-investisseurs%2Fsl=frtl=enhl=ie=UTF-8 Most interesting news to come out of *MIT* after RMS, I believe :-) Although I was wondering if they decided to just reclaim it as Mandriva 2011... and I found this link! humour -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Missing in-Action...?
Sorry about the top posting the last one! 2010/6/28 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com: Sorry, Here is the correct link :-) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=frtl=hiu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemagit.fr%2Farticle%2Flinux-mandriva-opensource-investisseurs%2F6613%2F1%2Fexclusif-mandriva-sauve-par-des-investisseurs%2F This link above has 200 chars in the URL while... continue... reading further... 2010/6/28 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com: /humour Here I found something coming straight out of *Le MIT* :-) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemagit.fr%2Farticle%2Flinux-mandriva-opensource-investisseurs%2F6613%2F1%2Fexclusif-mandriva-sauve-par-des-investisseurs%2Fsl=frtl=enhl=ie=UTF-8 This has 207 chars in URL Most interesting news to come out of *MIT* after RMS, I believe :-) Although I was wondering if they decided to just reclaim it as Mandriva 2011... and I found this link! humour -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! A total saving of 7 character bandwidth multiplies by number of Pune Linux UG's list of subscribers :-) Singing usual Mercy Petition for *Presidential Pardon* (in-absentia)! :-) /humour -- Missing - IN - Tag ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] Missing in-Action...?
MandrivaSpring-2010 alias 2010.non-zero? :-) Anybody heard of it lately? ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] How to start my career in linux
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Santosh Kumar Gupta sskg...@gmail.com wrote: hello sir I am a LIC agent currentaly. i am BSC Graduate from Raj. University since 2001. I am a beginner in linux. I need to change my careear. i want make my career in linux.I need information about how to start my New Career. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and regards Santosh Gupta The answer is as simple as it would be if I say, I want to have an LIC policy... From that perspective it is not clear what do you want to do in Linux. But knowing more about Linux, enough to manage your own computer could be a good first step in right direction.. Mind you, yours switching career to Linux is a long journey and it depends on where you want to reach, how far you want to study.. Perhaps you can start by getting more people like you involved, and forming a small group of people with similar aim... That may improve your mileage... -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Please suggest me a GNU/Linux distribution
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Aditya Godbole aag.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Pankaj Kumar pan...@glug4muz.org wrote: Hi all, Please suggest me a GNU/Linux distribution for a PC having following configuration: Processor : VIA Samuel 2 Speed: 796.32 MHz RAM: 512 MB The suggested GNU/Linux distribution MUST have at least following packages available in it by default: 1. KDE 2. C/C++/Java Support 3. LAMP Support 4. Quanta Plus 5. Open Office 6. Desktop Publishing Support 7. All audio and video codecs 8. VLC 9. All other standard components of GNU/Linux distribution Slackware comes close, except maybe on the audio codecs front. What exactly do you mean by 'all audio codecs'? Please don't suggest URL for installation of additional packages. I want such an installation DVD which should contain ALL these packages BY DEFAULT. That depends on what audio codecs you want. None of the free distributions will ship with proprietary codecs on their installation disks. By specifying GNU/Linux distribution you already chose Debian/Ubuntu and likes... :-) If you are looking for *Linux* distribution then there are others like Mandriva, Slackware and many more... :-) Slackware has historical significance of being the first ever Linux distro and it would be wise to read The Slackware Philosophy and history to understand thing from it's perspective also if you have inclination to understand more... -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] ITR e-filing on Linux
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:53 AM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: Hi, On 05/27/2010 06:49 PM, Mayuresh wrote: If anyone has tried/succeeded in e-filing returns using this software on Linux (using Openoffice / otherwise) please do post your experience. This issue is brought up every year on almost many Indian foss mailing lists. Last year someone did something about it: http://lists.fosscom.in/pipermail/network-fosscom.in/2009-September/001405.html http://freedom-matters.in/ I don't know yet if the IT-R form is the same this year too, but in any case, methinks publishing and popularizing this effort would be a nice thing. i used to have tough time with few of accounting team members needing MSOffice only for this filing purpose and the link above removes that last hurdle which till now prevented complete move to OpenOffice... There are few good things related to INDIC in OO.o 3.2 (e.g. native numbering for foot-notes etc.) which were not existing in previous versions of OpenOffice that definitely helped a friend of mine in completely publishing a मराठी work in देवनागरी. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] offer to be friend
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/28 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: Nevermind, he not going to get (as in grok) it. Pardon my ignorance but what is grok define: grok in a Google search box. and how is it related to Pune Linux Users' Group manifesto of activities...? It is not. Please check what I quote when I reply. I instead stumbled across *groklaw* and found a better link about opensource related legal matters! I do not know if it applies to legal-ease in India. But... Methinks it's sometimes worth investing in imagining *what maybe others' point of view* as it helps d/r-efine one's own point of view! -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] ITR e-filing on Linux
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Thursday 27 May 2010 18:49:20 Mayuresh wrote: following aspects: - Functioning of all macros properly (non-working of some of which may e-filing website. I thought the discussion was whether anyone had succeeded filing their IT returns without using MS Windows and MSO, not whether the government is implicitly endorsing MS products, or what's the draft policy for formats of public documents. Please stay On Topic. Without taking sides, even when i am yet to visit the link suggested by Ghodechhap, i I certainly felt that the rebuke of PLease Stay on topic was bit harsh (or unnecessary) considering the topic the got proposed in reply. I find URL body definitely ON TOPIC! Of-course I also go not want to be a self appointed guru in such matters, however thought that my baves (short for *brain waves* :-) were worth being recorded here. -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] ITR e-filing on Linux
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM, jayant ogale jaog...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:36:57 +0530 From: Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] ITR e-filing on Linux To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List plug-mail@plug.org.in Message-ID: aanlktilxchm5wjafmkbqepfkh7yv6s9ybjmhkun7k...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 snip -- Arun Khan you can submit a writ petition under MRTP act against this indirect compaltion, in the interest of public. the million doller question is who will do this? I hope you realize that your input was tiny as compared to the length of the discussion you quoted. Please use common sense while quoting. Common sense dictates that *it* not be a topic of criticism! -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] offer to be friend
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: Nevermind, he not going to get (as in grok) it. Pardon my ignorance but what is grok and how is it related to Pune Linux Users' Group manifesto of activities...? -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] ITR e-filing on Linux
From what I read in newspaper IT )Income Tax( dept of Pune is the first in the whole country to get ISO certified. Considering that... it's just a question of being aware of pitfalls and implementing improvement cycles. So the first step starts with our feedback to IT dept. Since I do not file my tax returns ( Yes I do pay taxes :-) in Pune I cannot be part of that improvement process... :-( -- I do not work for any government, partly because I think... *I am the government* ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Comments
2010/5/4 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com: 3-4 hours of downloading 1700 packages, about 30-40 minutes of installing all of them and restarting Now I am onto Kubuntu 10.04 Almost event less with about 20 mouse click for entire upgrade Only!!! gripe is *Wireless connection did not start right away... for some reason wire had to be put in for wireless to start working :-) after putting in the wire, it picked up wireless and wired both. Whatever that means... पँछ है क्या? ...तो काम करूंगा। types* This process is still not clean which could be experienced by not being able to remove a single offending package from either packagekit or synaptic. It could not remove the package because the status was not clear and fixing the broken packages is not happening smoothly There are so many irritants for me on kubuntu that I am switching this lappy back to Mandriva at earliest.. Though I am reverting to Mandriva I liked the slickness of upgrade process (no matter how much garbage has been piled under the hood in form of brocken packages) :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Problem wid Fedora 10 WLAN setting....
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Dhaval Ved veddha...@gmail.com wrote: thank u... will go through the page and post my comments.. :) ___ if you have broadcom chip then http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ this is the link... Also http://linuxwireless.org/ And for more info http://www.linux-wireless.org/ ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Problem wid Fedora 10 WLAN setting....
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Dhaval Ved veddha...@gmail.com wrote: hello.. i m using Sony Vaio CS series laptop.. n Fedora 10... LAN works perfectly fine.. it also detects the correct WLAN card. but when i try to enable WLAN, it says no n/w found. the wi-fi router is right beside it. also, my WLAN is password protected. can it b because of that? pls help.. everytime i need WLAN, i hav to switch to Win Vista... pls.. pls.. help..!! Don't know about Sony Vaio and Fedora both.. but just check if firmware if written to the disk... Also http://wireless.kernel.org/ http://wireless.kernel.org/ will be your friends for understanding how to enable wireless on your laptop... and every-time you install a new Linux distro on your laptop... -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] Upgrading Comments
This mail is to share of my few thoughts... so if you can easily get bored by somebody else's thoughts kindly disregard... else feel free to cross-criticize and share your thoughts if applicable! So far in the past I have done full version upgrade of Mandriva (more than twice) and have clean installed openSUSE, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Mandriva on more than one occasions. So never had a chance to really witness the process of major version upgrade, e.g. from kubuntu 9.10 to kubuntu 10.4 (which I am doing right now), for any other distro. On couple of occasions I tried to shift distros and found few problem with openSUSE at the time which I reported. This entire perspective with new insights make me feel that Mandriva has still few more places where it can improve. One such example is, let say I have 3 network interfaces on my lappy and i am downloading from the best connection, suddenly the best connection is broken, then if I am right Mandriva will not renegotiate the new route to its download repository while as I see kbuntu does this... I find that openSUSE is very good in restarting from last known upgrade point (sudden power outage with no UPS backup to installation machine) which probably others are not easily able to. I see that major version upgrade process of kubuntu looks cleaner than Mandriva although I am yet to complete it fully for the first time. However for sure, Default KDE Mandriva theme is more intuitive for *the initiated as well as uninitiated* Linux User. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Comments
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Chetan Kumar cheta...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/4 म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com: bored by somebody else's thoughts kindly disregard... else feel free to cross-criticize and share your thoughts if applicable! It will be a very good idea to rewrite the report in the light of this URL http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/14408-when-do-we-use-few-few-little-little.html Nothing personal. It will just make the meaning clearer and closer to your thoughts. Usually i do not reply to off-list mails hence marking a copy to PLUG, to ensure following my own mailing list associated reply guidelines :-) Also since you said, *nothing personal* there...! A lot many can benefit from that link and suggestive criticism. For my part, I will, reread my messages once more before sending it next time in your hono(u)r :-) Although I could not make much, I understood the need for simpler sentencing :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Need to setup local mail delivery Server
where is plug smiling list guideline? :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] True test of User Friendliness...
A small kid who used to play games on Windows machine was given latest Kubuntu for a month or two, and then for this installers whim, the machine was reformatted and fitted with Mandriva 2010. Kid on his own told his father, this newer (Mandriva) is easier to understand (समजायला सोपे आहे) and work than previous Linux that काका installed on our computer... These innocent and unbiased kind of inputs that are usually not available, so thought of sharing it here... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Linux / Sun Solaris Training
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Certification Guru certificationg...@gmail.com wrote: From: ?.??.??.?.? o.s@guruvision.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] Linux / Sun Solaris Training On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Akshay N. Manke akshay.n.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, ? I am Akshay N Manke. Currently working in Microsoft Windows Server Environment and wants to learn Linux / Sun Solaris, can anybody help me for suggesting any *Best Person* or any *Best Institute*, that will teach Linux Conceptually and Practically. Please Help. There is no best institute or person to learn Linux from! That's the truth. The journey starts with your wish to learn it and eventually you learn that you yourself are your best teacher. This is not true It all depends on the perspective. Actually i was going to suggest to take Linux Awareness Course of PLUG to truely become aware of various viewpoints etc. surroundings Linux and also to learn the basics.. Since it costs money I thought by reading about the course syllabus etc. he may be able to better understand his learning needs vis-a-vis costs associated with them... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Linux / Sun Solaris Training
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Certification Guru certificationg...@gmail.com wrote: From: ?.??.??.?.? o.s@guruvision.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] Linux / Sun Solaris Training On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Akshay N. Manke akshay.n.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, ? I am Akshay N Manke. Currently working in Microsoft Windows Server Environment and wants to learn Linux / Sun Solaris, can anybody help me for suggesting any *Best Person* or any *Best Institute*, that will teach Linux Conceptually and Practically. Please Help. There is no best institute or person to learn Linux from! That's the truth. The journey starts with your wish to learn it and eventually you learn that you yourself are your best teacher. This is not true I am in training from 15 years... teaching Linux for international examination since 2006. We are dedicated to IT training, please visit http://certificationguru.co.in Usually Guru's are more to do with knowledge than certification... Without casting aspersions on your self and/or your instt. your url clearly (mis)guides that your are possibly expert in certification process. I personally would be more happy to learn from somebody who tells i may not give you that tissue paper but you will learn more than ever needed to use that paper etc. etc... but again I am not guru and you are.. so people are well advised to visit your instt. Sorry if this sound rude... -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Linux / Sun Solaris Training
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Akshay N. Manke akshay.n.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am Akshay N Manke. Currently working in Microsoft Windows Server Environment and wants to learn Linux / Sun Solaris, can anybody help me for suggesting any *Best Person* or any *Best Institute*, that will teach Linux Conceptually and Practically. Please Help. There is no best institute or person to learn Linux from! That's the truth. The journey starts with your wish to learn it and eventually you learn that you yourself are your best teacher. However there are ample sources to know more about Linux on the net and http://tldp.org/ is just one of them. It is also a game of patience till you have learned the basics... then you will start trying others' :-) So welcome to the world of Linux and rest assured your journey is full of ad'ventures! -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] ubuntu 9.04 Initramfs
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Kapil Agrawal kapil@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, When I boot my ubuntu 9.04, I get a initramfs prompt. It was working perfetct till yesterday, and this morning I started facing this issue, any clue ? Also I am able to boot through live cd, and able to mount my home partition too. Can someone please help me fix this major issue ? You have two major options: 2. switch to (install) LiLO as a boot loader after booting from liveCD 1. learn how to fix grub configuration etc. everytime it messes up. For # 1, (without prejudice) suggest you to read the documentation available after loading from LiveCD. Enjoy -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Suggest a webhost for database centric webpage
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Tuesday 06 April 2010 17:36:18 Tarun Dua wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Mithun Shitole mithu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I want to host a website in which its database can grow over years to GBs ( 2-3 GB). I don't require bigger file storage capacity (100 MB is enough) and yes I need php - mysql :). Can you suggest some good linux webhost (US based) for the purpose upon your personal experience Or at lease point me to some authoritative resources to look for! Just curious why a US based host is your traffic coming from US or India. Its cheaper. Compare a dreamhost plan with any indian hosting and you will see. I would like to host in india too, but its just not cheap enough. -- Regards Shridhar Remember there are (at least I have faced such) problems with US based servers because they can (under circumstances) become unmanageable depending upon the level of support you enjoy. So critical deployments i would always go with India hosted environment where on-off switch remain geographically next to your chair :-) But that again boils down to how much premium one is willing to pay for that (customer) comfort and reputation... When connectivity gets down ( tel net ) USka *कटी पतंग* हो जाता है। -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Suggest a webhost for database centric webpage
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Wednesday 07 April 2010 10:28:26 म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: Remember there are (at least I have faced such) problems with US based servers because they can (under circumstances) become unmanageable depending upon the level of support you enjoy. Level of support for most US based hosting is good enough. Otherwise there would not be such large number of sites hosted from all over the world. Very true. I have some of my own sites which are charitable information exchange where i do not care much as to what state they leave-in under strange scenarios and all such are hosted on US servers... Others are not! To bring down the India based hosting costs down people need to create competition! When connectivity gets down ( tel net ) USka *कटी पतंग* हो जाता है। yes and that rare enough. Philosophically speaking death is one such rare occasions, which very few prepare to face despite everyone knowing that it is inevitable :-) -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ४. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Suggest a webhost for database centric webpage
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Wednesday 07 April 2010 10:49:47 म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: When connectivity gets down ( tel net ) USka *कटी पतंग* हो जाता है। yes and that rare enough. Philosophically speaking death is one such rare occasions, which very few prepare to face despite everyone knowing that it is inevitable :-) rare and frequent applies to events that can occur more than once. Death is not such an event so that adjective is misapplied. And its OT too. From the perspective of technology and age we are discussing it is On-Topic but I myself decline to make it so and enter into gnew OT debates at this juncture :-) Thanks for advise! -- Advising this costed me 3 terrabytes of thinking time! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] accounting and excise billing on Linux
a user is thinking of switching to Linux for usual reasons. He asked, can I use tally on Linux.. undersigned replied affirmative... Q. Is there a way i can also produce excise bills from there? My suggestion was to use some other software than Tally on Linux.. My query is whether anybody on this forum has effectively use non-tally accounting product for production purpose here in भारत...? If so, can any tidbits (you can call them breadcrumbs) be thrown this side for rumination on the topic... -- १. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ? ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] accounting and excise billing on Linux
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: On 3/24/10, म.हा.सा.ग.र o.s@guruvision.com wrote: a user is thinking of switching to Linux for usual reasons. He asked, can I use tally on Linux.. undersigned replied affirmative... As I remember, tally is available on Linux. But most of the vendors do not know about it. Also, support is poor. If you are looking for FOSS accounting/billing applications, there are not many. GNUCash, GNUkhata are some of the choices. What are the non-foss alternatives? It seems tally is so tightly integrated with M$O that OO.o installed machine can not be used in conjunction with Tally for certain functionality. So generally speaking it would be wise to start thinking of Tally alternatives right now.. non-foss Linux alternatives exploration may also allow little bit better understanding of the needs and maybe suitable for a section of society where people are willing to pay for extra services at enhanced speeds :-) -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer? ४. No question is ever stupid. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] accounting and excise billing on Linux
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Manish prol...@gmx.net wrote: I have not used it myself, but have attended a session in Gnunify-10 about GNUKhata -- and they look promising. You can get it here - http://gnukhata.gnulinux.in/ rgds, - Manish On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 12:50 +0545, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: a user is thinking of switching to Linux for usual reasons. He asked, can I use tally on Linux.. undersigned replied affirmative... Q. Is there a way i can also produce excise bills from there? My suggestion was to use some other software than Tally on Linux.. My query is whether anybody on this forum has effectively use non-tally accounting product for production purpose here in भारत...? If so, can any tidbits (you can call them breadcrumbs) be thrown this side for rumination on the topic... Thanks for the suggestion although I do not understand the implications of GPLv3 on such a piece of software Torvalds took a stand and stuck Nano-v2 so I am yet to think of v3! -- if you think 6 is the answer try reading *xes* reverse! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Fedora 12 with tata broadband
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Shrikant Gmail shrikant.navel...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/03/2010 11:36 AM, ?.??.??.?.? wrote: Ensure that gateway IP is correctly specified... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List where to specify gateway IP address ? in browser or in system with route default gw ? BTW my resolve.conf entries are as follows : nameserver 202.54.29.5 nameserver 202.54.10.2 If you are using dynaic IP dialing then gateway should get automagically assigned, but if you are using static IP, then you need to assign that as gateway. At the same time there are two ways to configure your modem (read router)... in bridge mode and other-wise. In bridge mode your dialer software is the place where you will be able to locate this gw setting, while case other-wise, you will need to specifi this on your routerdem ( by that i mean router cum modem :-) Now that you know the problem just fix without asking for more clues :-) there is learning there too... -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Fedora 12 with tata broadband
Ensure that gateway IP is correctly specified... ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] regarging swap space
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Tuesday 23 February 2010 14:03:18 Owais Lone wrote: If you have more than 2 gigs of RAM, don't use swap. That's it. If you have less than 1 GB, use 1-2GB of Swap. Actually a 512MB of swap is recommended no matter how much RAM you have. Linux just behaves better(I know its anecdotal/no hard facts) but linux loves to have some swap around. -- Regards Shridhar i think what श्रीधर says is value, since 2-5 days back I kept getting warning during the installation of OS (openSUSE) and ML (MandrivaLinux) when there was no defined swap partition. So it is ... even when you *swap nil* you still ned to define swap partition space aloecated. -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] problem with mdv 2010
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Wednesday 17 February 2010 16:04:03 म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: Everything just works pufect.. till we change to ext5 of-course! There won't be any ext5. btrfs is coming up next. and if you are using ext4, make sure that you use auto_da_alloc otherwise in case of power failures, lots of files will be left with zero bytes. /dev/sdan / ext4 auto_da_alloc,noatime,defaults 0 1 With slower computer and lesser memory i am getting almost similar performance... wondering what must be the reason... :-) that they are slow? I have two disks, one gives 130MB/s and other one 70MB/s. Filesystem is not going to matter in that case. -- Regards Shridhar I have # Entry for /dev/sda2 : UUID=c70882a3-96bd-429a-baap-0ead59c51379 / ext4 auto_da_alloc,noatime 1 1 and similar, after your *mition constructive criticism* suggestion. Hope this would sail me through प्रलय of 2010 i searched and found following x-प्ल-नेशन upon googling for your suggestion: auto_da_alloc(*)Many broken applications don't use fsync() when noauto_da_alloc replacing existing files via patterns such as fd = open(foo.new)/write(fd,..)/close(fd)/ rename(foo.new, foo), or worse yet, fd = open(foo, O_TRUNC)/write(fd,..)/close(fd). If auto_da_alloc is enabled, ext4 will detect the replace-via-rename and replace-via-truncate patterns and force that any delayed allocation blocks are allocated such that at the next journal commit, in the default data=ordered mode, the data blocks of the new file are forced to disk before the rename() operation is committed. This provides roughly the same level of guarantees as ext3, and avoids the zero-length problem that can happen when a system crashes before the delayed allocation blocks are forced to disk. -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Prateek's Calendar
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Prateek Chouksey prateek123an...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Please click on the link below and enter your birthday for me. I am creating a birthday calendar for myself. Don't worry, it'll take less than a minute (and you don't have to enter your year of birth). http://www.birthdayalarm.com/bd2/86233011a84132221b1495144171c564857393d1386 no wonder the URL is call birthday *alarm* :-) -- रोज मरे त्याला कोण रडे...? ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Some Confusing or Loaded Words and Phrases to Avoid (or Use with Care)
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Gaurav Pant gaurav...@gmail.com wrote: Nice read good for newbies http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html That is some good reading. However, it does not give equivalent/better terms that can give absolute clarity/meaning of the terms mentioned. If someone is against some term/entity, another alternative should also be given. Otherwise, the efforts go waste. (Pune traffic rules- especially one-ways- is a classic example ;-) ) classic Master Stroke from रियल माद्रीद ;-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Need Help Regarding GPL
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Amarendra Godbole amarendra.godb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Dnyanraj Mali dnyanraj.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I need some help on GPL licensing, can someone suggest me any group/forum where i can ask some questions about GPL [...] If you run a for-profit organization, and this question stems from your need to use some GPL software in your marketed one, then I'd recommend getting a legal opinion, since you may run into *serious* trouble if you make a mistake on the licensing front. And who else can be the best lawyer for you but for yourself? As long as your intent conscious; is clear and transparent, you will be able to defend yourself through the most admantine walls of legal lunacy... -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] GDM in some of the newer distros (Was Fwd: Re: Mandriva 2010)
setting vga=extended before label and vga=788 after the label in lilo.conf and also putting in the boot cd and reconfiguring the X by going into upgrade seems to have solved the problem for me atleast for now. -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Some sites which simply don't show on my Ubuntu desktop
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Manish prol...@gmx.net wrote: I am generally happy with my switch to Ubuntu few months ago. But I am quite annoyed with few issues that I am not able to resolve. I am not able to open few sites, typically Wordpress blogs, ICICI websites, and many https websites. I can open them without any problem on my Vista laptop working on same broadband connection. Does anyone know why this happens, and moreover how can it be fixed? Change the MTU in your broadband connection settings to 1492 or 1472 and all sites will work the way they should. google for more info.. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mandriva 2010
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Friday 13 November 2009 11:00:47 म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: i upgraded my laptop's Mandriva 2009.1 to 2010 and upgrade worked smooth. This is in contrast to past 2-3 experiences when a clean install was essential because upgrade process did not work smoothly. Good to know that. Its one feature that bolts me to arch :) -- Just in case somebody was actually thinking of this path to travel.. here is an update... Couple of things got disabled during upgraded and they are yet to be back in shape but overall i could defer a clean install for next time (or till i can learn more of how i can switch to ext-4 without clean install of some sort..) Hopefully new batch of updates which are being applied should fix at-least one of the two glitches that happened with upgrade from 2009.1 to 2010. Overall satisfaction level is above 88% :-) -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mandriva 2010
2009/12/7 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 12/07/2009 02:35 PM, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: Couple of things got disabled during upgraded and they are yet to be back in shape but overall i could defer a clean install for next time (or till i can learn more of how i can switch to ext-4 without clean install of some sort..) If you are using Ext3 currently, refer to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11#How_do_I_migrate_from_Ext3_to_Ext4.3F How to achieve that for all existing partitions without need for clean install is going to be interesting with exception of /home. Because i do not know of anybody backing up partitions other than /home :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mandriva 2010
2009/12/7 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 12/07/2009 05:27 PM, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11#How_do_I_migrate_from_Ext3_to_Ext4.3F How to achieve that for all existing partitions without need for clean install is going to be interesting with exception of /home. Because i do not know of anybody backing up partitions other than /home :-) Trivial if you use a Live or rescue cd. Mount, chroot, run tune2fs and bingo. Not so easy as it may look... One does need to update /etc/fstab after following your hints so next normal boot will have *less* trouble :-) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mandriva 2010
2009/12/7 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 12/07/2009 05:42 PM, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: Not so easy as it may look... One does need to update /etc/fstab after following your hints so next normal boot will have *less* trouble :-) If you think editing fstab is such a big deal, don't bother changing filesystems. Editing fstab is not a big deal, but i was just trying to visualize that average user FTM (For That Matter, me 2 included concluded :-) have to look at all possible angles before taking up such a task. This is a definite question for me to test future candidates for MCE (Mandriva Certified Engineer). I will learn a lot from that :-) And it definitely will not be trivial exercise if things get messed up midway somewhere... And your responses instilled in my mind (confidence ) the definite need for that care to be taken! -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Mandriva 2010
There is a problem with Mandriva 2010 and Fedora 12 too (i have a fresh report on that) that is to be aware of. After upgrade many times login manager (X) doesnot correctly kick in. Meaning machine is rendered non-responsive to any key combination. So only choice is to hardboot it by pressing on-off switch. Sometimes this has to be done 2-3 times before X can correctly get started and machine does not give that stare or gaze to the user. Hope people will have patient to be patient to such behavior because everything looks fine. The choice maybe to hibernate (suspend to ram अथवा disk) the laptop (which i have not tried) but this does look like a spanner in the wheel! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] LiLO भारत
i gave above string in an attempt to know if something is happening on LiLO indic strings problem... and i found this link... http://lemoi-www.dvgu.ru/download/programs/soft/Graphics/PhotoShop%20CS2/Adobe%28R%29%20Photoshop%28R%29%20CS2/commonfilesinstaller/DisplayLanguageNames.mr.txt Interesting.. Makes me wait a little longer for Lilo to improve further :-) Would be glad to hear anything different on the subject -- How do you pass an exam where no answers are expected? ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Compact projector
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Vijay Patil vijay.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am looking forward to buy a compact project (that I can carry around). I heard EPSON has some models but note sure. Are there any projectors of size of a mobile phone? Anyone using them? I am interested in buying new or second hand. i have seen a brochure of new Dell Projector which fits in your hand (palm) advtertizzed costs around 20K.. -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Confirmation: PLUG meeting for December 2009 is scheduled on Saturday 5th December 2009, 4 pm @ SICSR
/if - humour - can - ! - be - tolerated These are the details: Location: SICSR, Atur Centre, Model Colony. Room No 704. 7th floor ( room no. may change ) That is like saying please call me on this number. ( which may change :-) if-humour-can-be-tolerated ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Confirmation: PLUG meeting for December 2009 is scheduled on Saturday 5th December 2009, 4 pm @ SICSR
:.,$s/intentially/intentionally/g -- १. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer! २. No question is ever stupid! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
