Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] irBlaster plugin help
jhonsber...@msn.com;658316 Wrote: I hate to say this but the ir blaster plugin appears to be broke for many folks and it doesn't appear like there will be any updates to it. If you have set the player to fixed volume you should not be able to to change the squeezebox volume,only your amp.I'm afraid it is likely that the plugin is broken. If you search ir plugin you will see lots of posts about this ,including some from me. I see, for me the SB is set to fixed but when I use the remote the scale moves on the SB. I presumed this my have been by design but it certainly does not behave as though I was using the amp remote, and it seems very slow in response ? -- mn283 mn283's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38056 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90365 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins
Hi Erland, I've noticed something and I'm not sure if it's due to the plug in or the server. After a complete rescan of the music library all Dynamic Playlists report 'no songs' until the server is restarted. After the restart then things work as normal. Can you fix this? Regards CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Office), Radio (with battery) *Server:* 7.6.1 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-490 MediaSmart Server) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists | SQL Playlist | Music Information Screen | Custom Scan | TrackStat | Album Review | Biography *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1/iPad running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) *Music: *'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/chunkywizard) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49483 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Gblenn;658083 Wrote: weather it is possible, using Whitebear on top of SBS, to also be using iPeng as the controlling application. OR, is it so that I need to use some DLNA Control point in order to stream to a Networked Receiver with Whitebear??No, iPeng is a native only control point. I guess you receiver would have its own basic CP UI on the TV screen and/or its front panel. But if you want something fancier, you would need to use a third party application; Windows 7 provides Windows Media Player 7 which very good (and free). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
erland;658486 Wrote: The problem on the Sheevaplug was that it was also slow when browsing and that really needs to be solved for it to work on low power hardware. I did not speak about to do the job directly on this low power hardware. I speak about to implement from beginning that the app can be installed on a power hardware somewhere inside the Network and do the job from there to an external squeezeboxserver. For example. The NAS where is running the SBS have to low power to do this, but my joggler have enough power to do it. Or my EEE Box or my EEE PC. Joggler is allways online in the kitchen but have if i am sitting in Living room nothing to do or special during the night he can do the Job. The low powered NAS what have a lot of people is also allways online. Or my EEE PC with 1GB RAM and Atom CPU. At a later point Logitech can do some developement also to let this job doing the Touch or the radio like a etrayz i own or a synology. My suggestion is from beginning to find a way that this app needs not absolute to be stored and working on the same machine like the SBS is located. If you realy think about server client application think about a shared user modell. Like a cluster that the maschines are able to share their power what is necessary like in a cluster. If this application runs as a server the place where the server should be located should be independant. Logitech runs the way to support that 2 radios you can buy are able for stereo. If you have such a combination inside the Network of several squeezeboxes let them realy but together their RAM and CPU Power to help like inside a cluster to do this work together. Something like this in all of honor your developement Erland is a escape from your power consumting plugins. I do not use them like the Ignaz plugin on normal use. if i need i put on my EEEBox that take the Data from my NAS. But to find a way of shared CPU and RAM Power is demonstrate in several projects. This idea will put the project to a much higher level. And such applications are proved over the Internet working anyways to share the power of differend PCs worldwide to help to give a application the necessary power. Keyword is Distributed Computing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_computing Cluster-Computing Meta-Computing (Englisch) Grid-Computing Cloud Computing Peer-to-Peer Client-Server-Architektur -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
arztde;658481 Wrote: For what this anachronism in time? As i remebered you was yourself starting to announce that applications like iPeng never will never run before you did developed it for surprise of a lot of people. I don't understand what you are trying to say. I NEVER announced that anything like iPeng would not work on anything. Actually publishing iPeng was pretty much the first thing I did here (back when it was still a skin) except for some calls for help on how to get SBS to run on Linux. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
On my via-epia 1,2 ghz cpu (single core bad fpu ) the SMD scans takes roughly 25% more time than the SBS scan. The desktop app scans slower than SBS or the SMD plugin The java applet built in the web-page is somewhat slow . But it does not really do anything yet you can not cue up the filtered results for playback The extra menus, what I've seen is that they are not so slow, but I'll will get more mood and style tags first, then I can try that more extensively . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
Then something is wrong with my setup: Code: Dateien werden erkannt: .../Music (17129 von 17129) Beendet 00:00:26 Neue Dateien werden durchsucht: .../Music (13067 von 13067) Beendet 00:14:57 Wiedergabelisten werden erkannt: .../Music/Playlists (4 von 4) Beendet 00:00:00 Neue Wiedergabelisten werden durchsucht: .../Music/Playlists (3 von 3) Beendet 00:00:01 iTunes Import (3902 von 3902) Beendet 00:00:19 iTunes Wiedergabelisten Import (24 von 24) Beendet 00:00:21 Vom Benutzer hinzugefügte iTunes-Plattenhüllen importieren (178 von 178) Beendet 00:01:17 Plattenhüllen werden zwischengespeichert (762 von 762) Beendet 00:02:33 Social Music Discovery phase 1/2 (13090 von 13090) Beendet 01:14:35 Social Music Discovery phase 2/2 (713 von 713) Beendet 00:14:30 In other words: SBS Scan (7.6.2): 00:19:54 SMD Scan: 01:29:05 So the SMD scan took 4.5x as long as the SBS one. And that's a dual core MacBook Pro with 8GB RAM. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
arztde;658533 Wrote:
I did not speak about to do the job directly on this low power hardware.
I speak about to implement from beginning that the app can be installed
on a power hardware somewhere inside the Network and do the job from
there to an external squeezeboxserver.
For example. The NAS where is running the SBS have to low power to do
this, but my joggler have enough power to do it. Or my EEE Box or my
EEE PC.
SMD consists of multiple parts and each part can execute on a separate
machine on the network already today:
The user interface parts:
- Rich client (Which typically will run on the laptop/desktop/tablet
you are sitting beside)
- SBS plugin (which needs to run on same machine as SBS, this is purely
perl based, no java in the plugin, so it won't use much resources)
And the server parts:
- The SMD server with all the browsing and storage logic (does not have
to run on same machine as SBS)
- The SMD database which contains the data (does not have to run on
same machine as SBS)
It's the SMD server and SMD database that currently use most CPU.
The SMD server and SMD database needs to be on the same hardware if you
are using the embedded database that's the default, but it's perfectly
fine to use one of the other standalone databases supported, for
example MySQL, and then it can run on a different machine than the SMD
server.
However, for the system to work, you need at least the following
somewhere in the network:
- The SMD plugin
- The SMD server
- The SMD database
- SBS
The rich client is optional and not required for the system to work but
you probably want to have it installed on your laptop/desktop/tablet for
data management.
--
erland
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
Is this a bug? I just switched from Radio 2 with logo showing to R4 and whoosh the logo is gone - it was showing earlier when I did the switch to R2 ! I've cleared the cache - to no effect. It almost seems random whether the logo shows or not. -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
castalla;658546 Wrote: I've cleared the cache - to no effect. Which cache ? There is a browser cache, an SBS cache and a Touch cache. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
SBS cache. Where's the Touch cache? -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
castalla;658560 Wrote: Where's the Touch cache? In Touch. The cache operation have changed since about 7.2/7.3 but when I created the FindArt plugin I found it very hard to get updated images in sync across browser and Squeezeplay. Restarting the Squeezeplay (i.e. restart or reset a Touch) was the only way I found to be sure to get images in sync. Touch has a cache for artwork. If you enable logging for artwork - you can see when Touch starts up, it loads all the icons for menus but if SBS is restarted, the icons are not reloaded. Icons for URLs are bit different but there is still a cache involved. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Thanks. I do not use SvrPowerControl? (dont know what it is) I can see Transporter when I go to iPeng's list of players. Also does not seem to be any scanning issues. Would proximity to my wireless router be an issue. It is located away from my listening room and I notice the Touch sometimes only show 2 bars of the wi fi connection? I can move it closer if this may help? I also have the squeezebox controller app on the same Touch (but prefer the ipeng version). So I will use this for a bit to see if I experience similar issues. Cheers Paul -- paul44birch paul44birch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
paul44birch;658571 Wrote: I can see Transporter when I go to iPeng's list of players. Is it still connected to the same Music Source as iPeng (the shown at the top)? This does sound like the player temporarily dropping from the server. This has been an issue with some server versions but I thought it's fixed now. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
The only way I can get a logo is to play the station in the web gui - then the Touch shows the logo. Could it be some interaction with presets? It's a bit of a disappointment ... -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
Is this after you tried powering off Touch (or pressing reset button) ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
Hmm ok, browsing genres and cue up albums to play that way is very slow using an iPad app. curiusly it works faster next attempt ? It's much slower than the normal sbs menu for the same thing. But no doubt performance optimisation is not yet a priority ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
I'll reset and see what happens. If I recall - the logos always load fine if I use mysb.com. The issue seems to be at the local server end. -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
When I go to the list of players I can see all my squeezebox devices (radio, Duet, Transporter plus squeezeplay on two computers) The heading at the top says Pauls Music which is my music source. Is this what you mean? If problem persists shall I remove and reinstall ipeng? -- paul44birch paul44birch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WD MyBook Live NAS
Hello when I try to install aptitude update I get the following error messages W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA NO_PUBKEY 64481591B98321F9 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems Any clues where I may be going wrong? -- halliwells99 halliwells99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48933 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84735 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
paul44birch;658587 Wrote: When I go to the list of players I can see all my squeezebox devices (radio, Duet, Transporter plus squeezeplay on two computers) The heading at the top says Pauls Music which is my music source. Is this what you mean? If problem persists shall I remove and reinstall ipeng? Just to check something very simple. Your iPad/iPhone is connected to your LAN with wifi (rather than connected via 3G. -- garym System 1: Vortexbox Appliance (1.10) SbS 7.6.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) System 2: Win7(64) laptop SbS 7.6.1 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
paul44birch;658587 Wrote: If problem persists shall I remove and reinstall ipeng? That doesn't help. The clientID message means that you are trying to get information (e.g.a menu) for a player that is currently not connected. Not connected to the server, that is, not iPeng. It has nothing to do with iPeng itself. This is a different story from iPeng not getting a connection to the server (that issue will hopefully be fixed by an iPeng update today). -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Hi Garym. Its connected via wifi not 3G. It is an 8GB ipod Touch therefore no 3G capability. -- paul44birch paul44birch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
paul44birch;658587 Wrote: plus squeezeplay on two computers Ah. Could it be that you are seeing the message when you were using a Squeezeplay player before that is no longer running? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
I only use ipeng to control the Transporter. My ipod Touch is kept on a dock in my main music room. Duet is in the kitchen and controiled via duet controller. Radio is in my bedroom and I controll it by hand. The squeezeplay players are both controlled in situ at the computers. -- paul44birch paul44birch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
I've reset all my presets with stations where the logo shows ... I'll report back later with results after testing. -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WD MyBook Live NAS
Hello, I've managed to sort out the invalid keys error, now I get this error dpkg: warning: files list file for package `libparted0' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. (Reading database ... 22014 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace squeezeboxserver 7.6.1 (using squeezeboxserver_7.6.1_all.deb.2) ... Stopping Squeezebox ServerNo process in pidfile '/var/run/squeezeboxserver.pid' found running; none killed. . Unpacking replacement squeezeboxserver ... Setting up squeezeboxserver (7.6.1) ... Adding system user `squeezeboxserver' (UID 109) ... Adding new user `squeezeboxserver' (UID 109) with group `nogroup' ... useradd: unable to lock password file adduser: `/usr/sbin/useradd -d /usr/share/squeezeboxserver -g nogroup -s /bin/false -u 109 squeezeboxserver' returned error code 1. Exiting. Making sure that Squeezebox Server is not running first: No process in pidfile '/var/run/squeezeboxserver.pid' found running; none killed. Starting Squeezebox Serverstart-stop-daemon: user 'squeezeboxserver' not found invoke-rc.d: initscript squeezeboxserver, action start failed. dpkg: error processing squeezeboxserver (--install): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: squeezeboxserver MyBookLive:/DataVolume/shares/Public# -- halliwells99 halliwells99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48933 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84735 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
Mnyb;658585 Wrote:
Hmm ok, browsing genres and cue up albums to play that way is very slow
using an iPad app.
curiusly it works faster next attempt ?
It's much slower than the normal sbs menu for the same thing.
The first time you browse after SMD server has been started is a bit
slow, 5-10 seconds in my setup, the reason is that the plugin in SBS
doesn't establish contact with the SMD server. Also, I think some of
the menu contents are cached on the perl side so if you access the same
menu twice without accessing a lot of other menus in-between, the second
time is going to be faster. Finally, some things are also cached on the
SMD server side, so this can also speed up a menu when it's accessed
the second time.
Mnyb;658585 Wrote:
But no doubt performance optimisation is not yet a priority ?
Correct, unless someone volunteers and want to take a look at it. I
think all the current contributors are occupied in other areas at the
moment.
However, we are aware of that we need to do things to speed it up and
I'm sure it will get a lot faster before we are ready for a release. I
can't guarantee it will be as fast as SBS because of the architecture
with two server applications involved.
--
erland
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(Developer of 'many plugins/applets'
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helped you and you like to encourage future presence on this forum
and/or third party plugin/applet development, 'donations are always
appreciated' (http://erland.isaksson.info/donate))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
pippin;658541 Wrote:
Then something is wrong with my setup:
Code:
Dateien werden erkannt: .../Music (17129 von 17129) Beendet 00:00:26
Neue Dateien werden durchsucht: .../Music (13067 von 13067) Beendet
00:14:57
Wiedergabelisten werden erkannt: .../Music/Playlists (4 von 4) Beendet
00:00:00
Neue Wiedergabelisten werden durchsucht: .../Music/Playlists (3 von 3)
Beendet 00:00:01
iTunes Import (3902 von 3902) Beendet 00:00:19
iTunes Wiedergabelisten Import (24 von 24) Beendet 00:00:21
Vom Benutzer hinzugefügte iTunes-Plattenhüllen importieren (178 von 178)
Beendet 00:01:17
Plattenhüllen werden zwischengespeichert (762 von 762) Beendet 00:02:33
Social Music Discovery phase 1/2 (13090 von 13090) Beendet 01:14:35
Social Music Discovery phase 2/2 (713 von 713) Beendet 00:14:30
In other words:
SBS Scan (7.6.2): 00:19:54
SMD Scan: 01:29:05
So the SMD scan took 4.5x as long as the SBS one.
And that's a dual core MacBook Pro with 8GB RAM.
Do you have anything special in your tagging ?
What file types ?
Like a lot of extra metadata which isn't scanned by the normal SBS
scanner ?
It might also be good to know that SMD import is a lot slower if you do
a full import using the Full Import button in the SBS
Settings/Advanced/Social Music Discovery page, compared to if you just
let it be triggered by the SBS scan. The performance is the same the
first time but the second time it's triggered by the SBS scanner it's
faster because it only stores meta data for new files. It still
calculates the SMD identity checksum for all files, so it's not a fully
incremental scanning, but the first SMD import phase will be faster
since it doesn't have to store and parse the meta data of most of the
files.
Also, for FLAC files the SMD identity checksum calculation is really
fast as it just read the checksum already available in the FLAC format
while it for other file formats need to calculate the checksum each
time it imports a file.
If you run it again, take a look at the CPU usage and check if most of
the CPU usage is in the perl process or the java process. SMD identity
calculation and tag reading happens in the perl process while the java
process interprets the metadata and stores it in the database.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
It's my test library on the Mac. I don't think there are a lot of special tags but it's almost exclusively mp3 and AAC (at least 90% mp3), only one or two FLAC albums. Some SXSW stuff so a LOT of artists compared to the number of tracks (a few 1.000 artists). -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
pippin;658605 Wrote: It's my test library on the Mac. I don't think there are a lot of special tags but it's almost exclusively mp3 and AAC (at least 90% mp3), only one or two FLAC albums. Some SXSW stuff so a LOT of artists compared to the number of tracks (a few 1.000 artists). I suspect this difference is believable for a primarily non flac library. It will be dependant on the io performance of the server hardware. In normal SBS scanning and SMD operating on flac files, the scan process only requires the portion of each file containing the tags to be read from disk. Often if you rerun the scan it is significantly faster as the sectors required are all cached by the os even for quite a large library. However as SMD wants a hash of the audio portion of the file, for non flac files it has to read all the audio data and this is essentially io bound and will be much slower. Flac computes a crc at creation time and hence we have it for free. I don't see any easy way round this, but it does mean that if the library is primarily flac then the scan performance will be significantly better. (and you can get away with a lower performance server) -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins
Chunkywizard;658512 Wrote:
Hi Erland,
I've noticed something and I'm not sure if it's due to the plug in or
the server. After a complete rescan of the music library all Dynamic
Playlists report 'no songs' until the server is restarted. After the
restart then things work as normal. Can you fix this?
Regards
CW
Thanks, it should be fixed in the 1.0.3457 version of License Manager
plugin which I just released.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
Triode;658618 Wrote:
I suspect this difference is believable for a primarily non flac
library. It will be dependant on the io performance of the server
hardware. In normal SBS scanning and SMD operating on flac files, the
scan process only requires the portion of each file containing the tags
to be read from disk. Often if you rerun the scan it is significantly
faster as the sectors required are all cached by the os even for quite
a large library. However as SMD wants a hash of the audio portion of
the file, for non flac files it has to read all the audio data and this
is essentially io bound and will be much slower. Flac computes a crc at
creation time and hence we have it for free.
I don't see any easy way round this, but it does mean that if the
library is primarily flac then the scan performance will be
significantly better. (and you can get away with a lower performance
server)
It definitely needs to be calculated once, what we can do is to cache
it so we don't have to calculate it the next time as long as the file
name is exactly the same as before. Caching can be done either in
database or in tags (written by puddletag or something similar).
However, I don't think we should worry too much about this yet, I still
believe that most SMD users will run a full rescan once and then
maintain the data in the SMD database and then it doesn't matter much
if a full rescan takes a bit of time. It's more important that we can
make incremental rescan quick because that's going to be used every
time you add new music files to your library.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
Triode;658447 Wrote: It's stored in the plugin prefs file along with the other preferences (settings) for the spotify plugin. If you search you should find a file called /prefs/plugins/spotify.prefs Do you think there should be a way to back this up or export it? Maybe it could be stored/backed up as a separate file in the same directory where the SB playlists are. This is a directory which is not removed when e.g. SBS is upgraded (where typically removing the old package is best practice) -- buzzsb buzzsb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
erland;658621 Wrote: However, I don't think we should worry too much about this yet, I still believe that most SMD users will run a full rescan once and then maintain the data in the SMD database and then it doesn't matter much if a full rescan takes a bit of time. It's more important that we can make incremental rescan quick because that's going to be used every time you add new music files to your library. Agreed - we should target the incremental scanning api, I think this excludes 7.5, but its will be worthwhile to have this. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
Out of interest, will this be available for test on 7.7 or are you concentrating on 7.5/7.6 for now? -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - something Version: 7.7.0 3 x wireless SB3, and 2x Touch bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Each time I open ipeng I get a Clipboard entry of a URL that was recently saved to favorites. I don't know how to remove this Clipboard message. I have never seen it before. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thank you. -- Ikabob Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Slacker;Sky.com; Spotify; Sirius.com; Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SMD, let's discover the music
@Triode It's a local disc, but it's a notebook drive so probably not as fast as a dedicated server drive. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90278 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Slimnas installation - Reboot with ffs alloccg map corrupted on tar xzf
Description: I am trying to install slimnas 2.0.1 (Squeezebox server on Freenas). When, in slimnas-install.sh, it launch tar xzf slimnas.tgz, my Freenas reboot immediatly with a ffs alloccg map corrupted message. Do you have any idea to resolve this problem ? I use currently a FreeNAS 0.7.2 (revision 7529) i386-embedded on an AMD Sempron(tm) Processor LE-1200 with 1GB RAM Thanks in advance -- prospy prospy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16921 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90461 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
As mentioned above: this only shows up when there's a playable link in the clipboard. Just copy something else to the clipboard, e.g some text. The next update will be a bit more gentle about this feature. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer - staion logos fail to load
I think my logo problems may have been due to some screwed presets ... so far all logos are showing as expected. -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90441 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
New Daddy;658116 Wrote: In the SB servers drop-down list, some are obsolete and not current, due to IP address change, etc. How do you get rid of them? They only clutter the servers list and confuse me. Any answers to this? -- New Daddy New Daddy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
New Daddy;658670 Wrote: Any answers to this? Sorry, thought I answered it, I've already written it so often here, maybe I forgot: Just restart iPeng. I mean: really restart it by force-quitting the App through the task bar. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
pippin;658674 Wrote: Sorry, thought I answered it, I've already written it so often here, maybe I forgot: Just restart iPeng. I mean: really restart it by force-quitting the App through the task bar. Thanks for the answer. I also thought someone must have asked this question a million times and you must have answered it a million times, but this thread is way too long for searching. Have you thought about turning your very first post into an FAQ? At other forums (XDA-developers.com for example), I've seen developers reserving the first (or first few) posts for FAQ, new announcements, etc. It will make many people's lives easier. Just my two cents. -- New Daddy New Daddy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
