Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Squeezelite-X

2018-08-18 Thread edwin2006


Does the R-15PM also work the same way with the remote when connected to
a pcp pi?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.3.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox

2018-08-18 Thread puck


Hey,

When we do a search in spotty, a list of previous searches are listed.
Is it possible to selectively delete some of these? My 8yo son has
searched for some words that he now regrets searching for!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread philippe_44


SteveBamber wrote: 
> I've tried raw,wav and just wav for PCM format - but its the same codec
> error both times.
> 
> The Yamaha does claim support for WAV at 24/192 -
> https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/cd-n301_g/index.html
> 
> But it certainly doesn't list it in the GetProtocolInfo response.
> 
> Interestingly 
> 
> PCM Format = wav
> 24 bits PCM = 16 bits always
> Resampling = 44100
> Rate = 16 
> 
> Gives the codec error but
> 
> PCM Format = raw
> 24 bits PCM = 16 bits always
> Resampling = 44100
> Rate = 16 
> 
> Plays ok - so the bridge seems convinced that player doesn't support
> wav, but Yamaha say it does.
> 
> Can I force it using Additional Mimetypes somehow ?

One comment I forgot to make about the "24 bits PCM" parameter. This one
has a complex interaction...

Uncompressed PCM can be sent to players totally raw, without any header
of any kind. In that case, the format *must* be set in the HTTP response
using Content-Type: audio/Lss;rate=r,channels=c (where ss = sample
size). But uncompressed PCM can also be sent with a wav or aiff header
first which then contains information (sample rate, size, channels)
about the data that follow.

The Bridge has to make some sort of complex decision when PCM is sent:
using raw, or wav or aif, depending on players's capabilities (bitrate
and sample size). Players advertise what they support in term of
audio/Lxx, but most of them do not advertise any audio/L24 option
although when receiving a 24 bits wav file, they can handle them.

When sent in a wav or aif file, the 24 bits format is well defined: 3
bytes for each channel, in sequential order. But when sending raw audio,
a few options exists: send 3 bytes sequentially for each channel, send 4
bytes and put the 3 bytes at the top, or at the bottom, or a very
complex packing option which requires 12 bytes (2 packets of 6 bytes
each made of - say it's just stereo - L and R) and then combines that
into a strange other 12 bytes packets with a different bytes ordering. 

So the "24 bits PCM" parameter says the following: 

- When sending raw, decide if you want "packed" mode, or "plain" or do a
truncation to 16 bits if your player does not advertise audio/L16 '16
bits raw only'
- That truncation to 16 bits, you might also want it even when 'wav' is
selected, hence the "16 bits trunc always"

How does the bridge decide which format? It will try the options in
order according to "PCM format parameter". 

1- If 'wav' is first, it will do wav, if audio/wav capability exist and
maybe truncate to 16 bits sample if "24 bits PCM" is set to "16 bits
truncate always" 
2- If 'raw' is first, it will try to find a matching capability for
audio/Lss. In case of 24 bits sample, if it does not find a match but
you have specified "24 bits PCM" to any of the 16 bits truncation
option, then it will try to find an audio/L16 match. If no matching is
found with previous rules, then it tries the next "PCM format parameter"
in the list, which might be 'wav' and then you go to case 1-

The last thing is that when you decide to re-encode using pcm, if you
decide to *set* sample size to 24, then the truncation options of "24
bits PCM" parameter do not apply (which sounds logical: you want 24, ok,
you will have 24). So if no rule matches audio/L24, then wav will be
tried if in list of "PCM formats" and if not playback will fail.

I'm sure your head already exploded at this time :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread philippe_44


philippe_44 wrote: 
> So, the Yamaha does not indicate wav in its protocolinfo ... grrr. But
> adding 2 mimetypes should work

Corrected now



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread philippe_44


PasTim wrote: 
> I'm beginning to get my head round some of the options,  First the bad
> news - 24 bit raw pcm definitely crackles loudly in the current dev
> version.  The noise is not as bad as in previous encoding versions, but
> still not right.
> 
I do think that this is sorted out now. I build anothe rapplication that
takes what I send and verifies that it's properly packed. It allowed me
to correct a few issues. It also gave me a hard time because at some
point, all the necessary corrections were done, but it was still wrong
after a few seconds ... and the issue was in the test application :(

> 
> I then thought to add audio/wav to the additional mime types.  And guess
> what? Now the good news. Every option I tried worked.  16 bit, 24 bit,
> 32 bit, all up to 192000 including without 'max' set (but see below).  I
> don't know if the bit rates actually do anything in wav (see below).  My
> M1 doesn't seem to advertise wav at all (a common issue so it seems, and
> presumably why wav in c3po doesn't work) but it works well for me.  I
> haven't tried flow.
> 
That's strange , I'm wondering if the string might be truncated in some
way. Did you try with DeviceSPy to see what you have there?
> 
> A few comments.  I find the 'max' tick box confusing.  The i information
> box doesn't show all the information on my browser - it always gets
> truncated at the bottom, so I can't read it all.  RTFM - The user guide
> talks about rates, and "-", but I'm not sure what setting 'max' on
> screen does.  
> 
> I'm also struggling with the log.  I'd like to see what is going on with
> encoding (or not) including bit rates, so I know what's being done and
> can understand a bit more.  I've seen lines about resampling rates, but
> not bits.  Is there a combination of log settings that would do this for
> me?
> > > > 
> > I agree now. I've change the labels, let me know if it helps. I've also
> > added a log that says exactly what encoding parameters are used
> > > > > > > 
> > > As to my wobblies a few days ago. I have to admit to being overwrought.
> > > I was tired, have been to 2 funerals in quick succession, and was not in
> > > a good place.  I should have know better than to try testing.  I still
> > > think it has got rather too complex, but that is the nature of the UPnP
> > > beast.> > > > 
> > > > 
> I'm sorry to hear that, Tim - such events are very hard to handle
> I agree it's ahrd to handle, I hoped the 'advanced options' thing help
> 
> Thanks as usual



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread PasTim


I'm beginning to get my head round some of the options,  First the bad
news - 24 bit raw pcm definitely crackles loudly in the current dev
version.  The noise is not as bad as in previous encoding versions, but
still not right.

I then thought to add audio/wav to the additional mime types.  And guess
what? Now the good news. Every option I tried worked.  16 bit, 24 bit,
32 bit, all up to 192000 including without 'max' set (but see below).  I
don't know if the bit rates actually do anything in wav (see below).  My
M1 doesn't seem to advertise wav at all (a common issue so it seems, and
presumably why wav in c3po doesn't work) but it works well for me.  I
haven't tried flow.


Code:


  [21:34:04.748593] GetProtocolInfo:337 [0x74b440]: uPNP GetProtocolInfo
  [21:34:04.755250] GetProtocolInfo:348 [0x74b440]: ProtocolInfo 
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=96000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=96000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=88200;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=88200;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=192000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=192000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=96000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;ra
 
te=96000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=88200;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=88200;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=192000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L24;rate=192000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/x-mpeg:*,http-get:*:audio/mpeg:*,http-get:*:audio/mpegurl:*,
 http-get:*:audio/x-mpegurl:*, 
http-get:*:audio/scpls:*,http-get:*:audio/ms-wma:*, 
http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*, http-get:*:application/octet-stream:*, 
http-get:*:audio/x-ms-asf:*,http-get:*:application/ogg:*,http-get:*:audio/mp4:*,http-get:*:audio/x-flac:*,http-wavetunes:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
  



A few comments.  I find the 'max' tick box confusing.  The i information
box doesn't show all the information on my browser - it always gets
truncated at the bottom, so I can't read it all.  RTFM - The user guide
talks about rates, and "-", but I'm not sure what setting 'max' on
screen does.  

I'm also struggling with the log.  I'd like to see what is going on with
encoding (or not) including bit rates, so I know what's being done and
can understand a bit more.  I've sen lines about resampling rates, but
not bits.  Is there a combination of log settings that would do this for
me?

As to my wobblies a few days ago. I have to admit to being overwrought.
I was tired, have been to 2 funerals in quick succession, and was not in
a good place.  I should have know better than to try testing.  I still
think it has got rather too complex, but that is the nature of the UPnP
beast.



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44.1->192kbps.  Touch & EDO. 2nd Touch standard.
LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to A308CR amp & ESLs) &
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 17.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.3.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox

2018-08-18 Thread NeverSimple


maddymarc wrote: 
> Thanks for replying to my question, Michael. Sorry it took me a month to
> respond. 
> No, I don't use any screensaver other than 'Now Playing' for my SB2 and
> 3.
> 
> [Edit] Well I'll be darned. I updated Spotty and it's working fine now.
> Displays are all updating as they should. Thanks to Michael if your
> recent updates to Spotty targeted this. :)

As I've been reminded before: Michael reads the mailing list instead of
the newsgroup and misses the edits. So here...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread philippe_44


SteveBamber wrote: 
> This is the Protocol Info reported by the player - no mention of FLAC or
> WAV but does support both
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > [17:51:07.606105] GetProtocolInfo:348 [0x74d630]: ProtocolInfo 
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL,http-wavetunes:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
  > 

> > 
> 
> But as per previous post I do have it streaming 24 bit PCM now - by
> using
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > audio/x-wav

> > 
> 
> for additional mimetypes - although using both
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > audio/x-flac,audio/x-wav

> > 
> 
> doesn't work - don't know if it should ?
> 
> Streaming various bit/sample rates no problem
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > [17:59:10.815207] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:16, 
r:44100
  > [18:00:03.907911] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:24, 
r:96000
  > [18:03:51.626776] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:16, 
r:44100
  > [18:08:35.945413] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:24, 
r:96000
  > [18:13:50.808605] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:16, 
r:44100
  > [18:16:34.168087] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:16, 
r:44100

> > 

So, the Yamaha does not indicate wav in its protocolinfo ... grrr. But
adding 2 mimetypes should work



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread SteveBamber


philippe_44 wrote: 
> Can you send me again your protocolInfo? (just put additional debug info
> to all debug)

This is the Protocol Info reported by the player - no mention of FLAC or
WAV but does support both


Code:

[17:51:07.606105] GetProtocolInfo:348 [0x74d630]: ProtocolInfo 
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL,http-wavetunes:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
  



But as per previous post I do have it streaming 24 bit PCM now - by
using

Code:


  audio/x-wav



for additional mimetypes - although using both


Code:

audio/x-flac,audio/x-wav



doesn't work - don't know if it should ?

Streaming various bit/sample rates no problem


Code:

[17:59:10.815207] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:16, 
r:44100
  [18:00:03.907911] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:24, r:96000
  [18:03:51.626776] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:16, r:44100
  [18:08:35.945413] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:24, r:96000
  [18:13:50.808605] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:16, r:44100
  [18:16:34.168087] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:16, r:44100




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Cambridge CX-A60, Monitor Audio Bronze 2, Soundstyle Z2
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.3.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox

2018-08-18 Thread Michael Herger

Thanks for replying to my question, Michael. Sorry it took me a month to
respond.
No, I don't use any screensaver other than 'Now Playing' for my SB2 and
3.


The handling of synced players has changed considerably in 2.4.x. Did 
you update already? Do you still see the same issue?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread philippe_44


SteveBamber wrote: 
> I've tried raw,wav and just wav for PCM format - but its the same codec
> error both times.
> 
> The Yamaha does claim support for WAV at 24/192 -
> https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/cd-n301_g/index.html
> 
> But it certainly doesn't list it in the GetProtocolInfo response.
> 
> Interestingly 
> 
> PCM Format = wav
> 24 bits PCM = 16 bits always
> Resampling = 44100
> Rate = 16 
> 
> Gives the codec error but
> 
> PCM Format = raw
> 24 bits PCM = 16 bits always
> Resampling = 44100
> Rate = 16 
> 
> Plays ok - so the bridge seems convinced that player doesn't support
> wav, but Yamaha say it does.
> 
> Can I force it using Additional Mimetypes somehow ?

Can you send me again your protocolInfo? (just put additional debug info
to all debug)



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ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread SteveBamber


SteveBamber wrote: 
> I've tried raw,wav and just wav for PCM format - but its the same codec
> error both times.
> 
> The Yamaha does claim support for WAV at 24/192 -
> https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/cd-n301_g/index.html
> 
> But it certainly doesn't list it in the GetProtocolInfo response.
> 
> Interestingly 
> 
> PCM Format = wav
> 24 bits PCM = 16 bits always
> Resampling = 44100
> Rate = 16 
> 
> Gives the codec error but
> 
> PCM Format = raw
> 24 bits PCM = 16 bits always
> Resampling = 44100
> Rate = 16 
> 
> Plays ok - so the bridge seems convinced that player doesn't support
> wav, but Yamaha say it does.
> 
> Can I force it using Additional Mimetypes somehow ?

And to answer my own question - yes you can :D

The problem I had was that I was using

Code:


  audio/x-flac,audio/x-wav



for additional mimetypes - I dont think it likes multiple values ?

If I use just


Code:

audio/x-wav



then I can stream in wav format - I've got


Code:

Codecs = flac,pcm
  PCM Format = wav
  Additional Mimetypes = audio/x-wav
  Transcode = pcm
  24 bits PCM = plain 24 bits
  Resampling = source
  Sample size = source



And I'm successfully streaming a 24/192 FLAC file in 24/192 WAV format


Code:

[17:46:26.782063] AVTSetURI:91 [0x74d630]: uPNP setURI 
http://192.168.0.10:49154/bridge-1.wav (cookie 0x1)
  [17:46:26.782802] process_start:1151 [0x6cc218]: codec:p, ch:2, s:24, r:192000




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.3.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox

2018-08-18 Thread maddymarc


Thanks for replying to my question, Michael. Sorry it took me a month to
respond. 
No, I don't use any screensaver other than 'Now Playing' for my SB2 and
3.

mherger wrote: 
>  Are you using MusicInfoSCR as a screen save on your SB3/2? Or any other
> 
> 3rd party screensaver?
> 
> > maddymarc wrote: 
> > I love having Spotty for my LMS setup and use it daily. One thing that I
> > have never been able to get right is the song display when multiple
> > players are synced and using Connect. The audio works fine. Occasionally
> > a song will repeat, or the playlist will not continue, but that's few
> > and far between. No matter if one or multiple players are Connect
> > enabled, when they are synced (which is all the time for me) only the
> > first song title played will display, even though the Connect playlist
> > continues and the songs change. 
> > 
> > Has anyone else experienced this? Has anyone figured out how to fix
> > this?
> > 
> > I use a picore player server, one picore player, one SB3 and one SB2. 
> > 
> > Thanks!> >



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread SteveBamber

philippe_44 wrote: 
> Yes, it’s probable that the Yamaha does not support 24 bits, at least in
> raw format. What do you have in ’PCM format’? Did you set it at
> ‘raw,wav’ ? A lot of players do not support 24 bits when sent as raw
> pcm, but when packaged in a wav enveloppe, they find there way around.

I've tried raw,wav and just wav for PCM format - but its the same codec
error both times.

The Yamaha does claim support for WAV at 24/192 -
https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/cd-n301_g/index.html

Bit it certainly doesn't list it in the GetProtocolInfo response...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread PasTim


philippe_44 wrote: 
> Crap ... in both cases, was it pure noise or could you hear some of the
> audio? If I just generate a binary, which one do you prefer? x64?
I can still hear some audio.  I run X64.



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Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  
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renderers.  
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread philippe_44


PasTim wrote: 
> I'm sorry to have to say it still has noise, albeit different noise
> (more loud crackles and pops), on 24 bit raw pcm.  I was running
> 24/96000 tracks with all settings set to 24/96000 packed type 1.  I also
> tried 24/48000 tracks - same result.  Further, if I set 'max' I got
> nothing at all - the tracks were rejected and skipped over.
> 
> If you want to make an alpha version available just to me to test for
> you (eg maybe a slightly different repo address) let me know.

Crap ... in both cases, was it pure noise or could you hear some of the
audio? If I just generate a binary, which one do you prefer? x64?



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ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread philippe_44

SteveBamber wrote: 
> Thanks Philippe - tried again with 1.1.0.7 this morning.
> 
> Starting from my flac pass-through settings - changing just
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > Codecs = flc,pcm
  > Transcode = pcm

> > 
> 
> I get silence and 
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > [10:28:41.977415] process_strm:333 [0x6c8080] no matching codec f

> > 
> 
> in the log
> 
> Quick check and if I tick flow as well - then it plays fine and
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > Content-Type: audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2

> > 
> 
> is reported in the logs.
> 
> Removing the tick for flow and setting
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > 24 bits PCM = 16 bits always
  > Resampling rate = 44100
  > Sample size = 16
  > 

> > 
> which I'm guessing are similar to flow on default settings - that also
> works fine and
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > Content-Type: audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2

> > 
> 
> reported in the logs.
> 
> But if it try and use 24 bit ( any combination of settings ) I just
> get silence and
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > [10:39:06.808308] process_strm:333 [0x6c8080] no matching codec f

> > 
> 
> Is that maybe because the Yamaha doesn't advertise 24bit support ?
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > [10:38:28.606789] GetProtocolInfo:348 [0x74b440]: ProtocolInfo 
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL,http-wavetunes:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*

> > 
> 
> I've no real desire to use PCM but happy to keep testing if it's
> useful for you :D

Yes, it’s probable that the Yamaha does not support 24 bits. What do you
have ton’PCM format’? Did you set it at ‘raw,wav’ ? A lot of players do
not support 24 bits when sent as raw pcm, but when packaged in a wav
enveloppe, they find there way around.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread PasTim


philippe_44 wrote: 
> I've found a bytes order error in 24 bits compacting which certainly
> explains why you had white noise. I hope it was the only issue
I'm sorry to have to say it still has noise, albeit different noise
(more loud crackles and pops), on 24 bit raw pcm.  I was running
24/96000 tracks with all settings set to 24/96000 packed type 1.  I also
tried 24/48000 tracks - same result.  Further, if I set 'max' I got
nothing at all - the tracks were rejected and skipped over.

If you want to make an alpha version available just to me to test for
you (eg maybe a slightly different repo address) let me know.



LMS 7.9.1 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 17.10, FLACs 16->24 bit,
44.1->192kbps.  Touch & EDO. 2nd Touch standard.
LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to A308CR amp & ESLs) &
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 17.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2018-08-18 Thread SteveBamber


philippe_44 wrote: 
> No, the Yamaha is doing fine here. But you have chosen to send data to
> the player in pcm (which means it can be raw, wav or aiff) *and* you've
> selected flow mode. 
> 
> In flow mode, all the tracks are sent as a single continuous flow
> (single track), as if the player was just a DAC, and this is what
> enables true gapless and cross-fade. But for that to work, all tracks
> must be in the exact same format (sample size, rate and codec) as you
> cannot switch format in the middle of a flow
> 
> You can specify sample rate and sample size by (eg)
> pcm,r:48000,s:16,flow but by default, if nothing is set, I do 44100kHz
> and 16 bits
> 
> If you just want data to be sent in pcm, don't add flow and then the
> source sample rate and size will be kept

Thanks Philippe - tried again with 1.1.0.7 this morning.

Starting from my flac pass-through settings - changing just

Codecs = flc,pcm
Transcode = pcm

I get silence and 

[10:28:41.977415] process_strm:333 [0x6c8080] no matching codec f

in the log

Quick check and if I tick flow as well - then it plays fine and

Content-Type: audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2

is reported in the logs.

Removing the tick for flow and setting

24 bits PCM = 16 bits always
Resampling rate = 44100
Sample size = 16

which I'm guessing are similar to flow on default settings - that also
works fine and

Content-Type: audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2

reported in the logs.

But if it try and use 24 bit ( any combination of settings ) I just get
silence and

[10:39:06.808308] process_strm:333 [0x6c8080] no matching codec f

Is that maybe because the Yamaha doesn't advertise 24bit support ?

[10:38:28.606789] GetProtocolInfo:348 [0x74b440]: ProtocolInfo
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM,http-get:*:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE,http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL,http-wavetunes:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*

I've no real desire to use PCM but happy to keep testing if it's useful
for you :D



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