Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 4.4 - more personalised content

2020-10-06 Thread slartibartfast


megatron_lives wrote: 
> hi all
> 
> I've just reinstalled picoreplayer and had previously had no issues with
> spotty. However, with the latest version of spotty and picoreplayer, I
> cannot get the online integration to work. I set up spotty and
> everything works but when I rescan the library, it doesn't 'find' any
> Spotify albums or artists?
> 
> Before there would be an option in library views for something like
> 'online media without duplicates' but now all I see is default?? 
> It worked before on my old installation but I don't know what versions I
> was using.
> 
> Can someone help please?? 
> 
> Thank youDo you have the right settings in the "online music integration" 
> plugin?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 4.4 - more personalised content

2020-10-06 Thread megatron_lives


hi all

I've just reinstalled picoreplayer and had previously had no issues with
spotty. However, with the latest version of spotty and picoreplayer, I
cannot get the online integration to work. I set up spotty and
everything works but when I rescan the library, it doesn't 'find' any
Spotify albums or artists?

Before there would be an option in library views for something like
'online media without duplicates' but now all I see is default?? 
It worked before on my old installation but I don't know what versions I
was using.

Can someone help please?? 

Thank you



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2020-10-06 Thread jeroen2


Greg Erskine wrote: 
> The MAC address is usually hard coded in the network device, Ethernet,
> Wifi or Bluetooth. 
That's what I thought as well. 

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> In pCP Squeezelite Settings, there is an option to overwrite the MAC
> address although it is not recommended.
I did not use that setting. But in my small sample of 6 Raspberries, all
PcP's start with the same 6 digits, and all Volumio's start with the
same 4 digits (aa.aa). And when I switched from Volumio to PcP on 3 of
them, they all changed.. :eek: So maybe it's Volumio that does the
software override...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread bpa


Paul Webster wrote: 
> It gives me Latest, Bookmarks and Subscribed
> 
> Most of my BBC Radio listening is via DAB or LMS ... so they do not know
> much about me.
> 
> However, long ago I created an account there and I marked a few
> programmes as favourites or similar and they now appear under the
> Subscribed list.
> The Latest appears to be a list of recent episodes of those Subscribed
> programmes.
> 
> They do send me a weekly email with recommendations ... but it might be
> the same content for everyone.
> 
> The "Latest" list could be a useful shortcut in LMS - even if I had to
> maintain the list of subscriptions via BBC web site/Sounds app.
> 
> I just took a look at the cookies ... there are lots so even copy/paste
> of cookies would be a pain.
> 
> Backburner at best.
As part of the looking at the innerds of web pages - it is clear a new
api is being used.  One part of it is about personalised programmes -
however I don't know if this is the mechanism for receommendations
See
https://rms.api.bbc.co.uk/docs/#/Personalised%20Programmes



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 4.4 - more personalised content

2020-10-06 Thread ForestChav


I've spotted an issue with this where occasionally, more often than not
on longer tracks, mid-way through the track it will break off and skip
to the next one.

You can notice this (which I was last night) if you're listening to
something with several longer tracks (such as a recording of Beethoven's
9th Symphony). If you keep skipping back eventually you'll be able to
get through to the end so it isn't anything on Spotify as the full track
will listen.

Are there any logs which might help identify where this is happening?
I'm using the latest LMS and Spotty on Win10 (plenty of resources) on a
wired connection and the internet isn't dropping out when this happens.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread Paul Webster


It gives me Latest, Bookmarks and Subscribed

Most of my BBC Radio listening is via DAB or LMS ... so they do not know
much about me.

However, long ago I created an account there and I marked a few
programmes as favourites or similar and they now appear under the
Subscribed list.
The Latest appears to be a list of recent episodes of those Subscribed
programmes.

They do send me a weekly email with recommendations ... but it might be
the same content for everyone.

The "Latest" list could be a useful shortcut in LMS - even if I had to
maintain the list of subscriptions via BBC web site/Sounds app.

I just took a look at the cookies ... there are lots so even copy/paste
of cookies would be a pain.

Backburner at best.



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supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread PasTim


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Here is a non-https thought ...
> If the plugin supported optional sign in to BBC portal then I wonder if
> the BBC personalised recommendation list would be useful.
We are all different. I try to avoid signing in to the Beeb, or any
other media outlet as much as possible.  I hate the idea of them
deciding what I might like. :)



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CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread bpa


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Here is a non-https thought ...
> If the plugin supported optional sign in to BBC portal then I wonder if
> the BBC personalised recommendation list would be useful.

It's not a feature I use so I don't have a personal interest/need to
implement it. Is it useful or like Netflix lots of rubbish ?

It's not a public or simple API  (i.e simple single http GET request  &
response) so it would mean 
(i) hacking the login method
(ii) hacking the recommendation and creating a menu from them somewhere
so they can be played.

I think it could be implemented like BBCiPlayerExtra, as a separate
plugin, it create "iplayer://" URL for recommendations and then uses
BBCiPlayer plugin to play them.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread Paul Webster


Here is a non-https thought ...
If the plugin supported optional sign in to BBC portal then I wonder if
the BBC personalised recommendation list would be useful.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread bpa


mavit wrote: 
> Not sure if this is related, but, in LMS 7.9, there was a case where if
> an HTTPS connection failed when fetching repository xml, LMS would retry
> the request with HTTP.  I guess if that redirects back to HTTPS, you
> could end up stuck in a loop.  This behaviour 'has been changed for 8.0'
> (https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/267/commits/7b0ddbd416e106837b3014c7a7e368ccc0ebbe02).

LMS has for a long time done the https to http swap.  However, there
were a number of bugs/shortcomings (e.g. NB in HTTPS, redirection) 
which I think were only fixed early this year - IIRC some fixes were
backported into 7.9.*.  

In term of the BBCiPlayer plugin, I think we can end the general https
discussion in this thread - any exploration of the broader LMS & https
issues can be done in another thread.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread bpa


mavit wrote: 
> Oh, and while were on the topic of the plugin not working unless
> your OS has robust TLS support, I still think it makes sense for the
> plugin to prefer HTTPS to HTTP.  Most HTTP URLs that the plugin uses now
> redirect to HTTPS, so trying HTTP first is just going to slow things
> down a bit, with no improvement in compatibility for users who
> cant use HTTPS.
> 
> https://gitlab.com/mavit/BBCiPlayer/-/compare/master...https?w=1
This is a topic you brought up a few years ago but at the time many
users were on old OS, LMS etc and functionally was not necessary.  If I
changed all over to https then,  it would have resulted in many posts.
It looks like we're past the tipping point and also LMS own https
support has been vastly improved.

I'll look into the changes when the next update is due.   I think BBC
are changing stuff behind the scenes and so I'm trying to anticipate
what will be needed in next update.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread mavit


bpa wrote: 
> A separate issue but associated issue when this failure occurs -  know
> of two instances where LMS "spins" making the same request about every
> 0.002 secs and so effectively locks out all other LMS activity.

Not sure if this is related, but, in LMS 7.9, there was a case where if
an HTTPS connection failed when fetching repository xml, LMS would retry
the request with HTTP.  I guess if that redirects back to HTTPS, you
could end up stuck in a loop.  This behaviour 'has been changed for 8.0'
(https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/267/commits/7b0ddbd416e106837b3014c7a7e368ccc0ebbe02).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread mavit

Oh, and while we’re on the topic of the plugin not working unless your
OS has robust TLS support, I still think it makes sense for the plugin
to prefer HTTPS to HTTP.  Most HTTP URLs that the plugin uses now
redirect to HTTPS, so trying HTTP first is just going to slow things
down a bit, with no improvement in compatibility for users who can’t use
HTTPS.

https://gitlab.com/mavit/BBCiPlayer/-/compare/master...https?w=1



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread bpa


mavit wrote: 
> I think this demonstrates that that's not the problem here, right now
> (unless there exists a buggy version of the libraries that negotiate TLS
> 1.3 and then can't actually use it).  However, it certainly *is* a real
> problem that users will experience somewhere, sooner or later, if
> they're stuck on an old version of OpenSSL, so the advice to upgrade to
> a recent OS is solid in any case.

OK. 

This is strange issue.  

It has also affected LMS repository fetches and Windows version of LMS. 
Sites which technically should support TLS request less then TLS 1.3
(e.g. TLS 1.1)  seem to have problem with SSL/TLS libraries support
which is not quite up to date or the old SSL/TLS libraries have a
problem with site which support TLS 1.3.  Either way it is a problem
outside of LMS and BBCiPlayer plugin.

A separate issue but associated issue when this failure occurs -  know
of two instances where LMS "spins" making the same request about every
0.002 secs and so effectively locks out all other LMS activity.  

All is solved by updating but for some users this seems to be a drastic
solution and cannot understand the failure of backward compatibility.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2020-10-06 Thread Greg Erskine


The MAC address is usually hard coded in the network device, Ethernet,
Wifi or Bluetooth. The first 6 digit will be registered to the Raspberry
Pi Foundation. If you are using a USB Wifi adapter the MAC address will
be registered to the device manufacture.

This nearly unique MAC address can be overwritten in software. In pCP
Squeezelite Settings, there is an option to overwrite the MAC address
although it is not recommended.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread mavit

Sorry, I should have been clearer: I’m not having any trouble,
personally, I just wanted to chip in to show how one can test what
versions of TLS your OpenSSL can use with a particular site.  Leave off
the “-tls1” and it’ll use whatever it thinks best.

bpa wrote: 
> Could the problem be in openssl 1.0.* (and associated libraries) trying
> to access a site which can support TLS 1.3  but which openssl 1.0.*
> doesn't know about ?

I think this demonstrates that that's not the problem here, right now
(unless there exists a buggy version of the libraries that negotiate TLS
1.3 and then can't actually use it).  However, it certainly *is* a real
problem that users will experience somewhere, sooner or later, if
they're stuck on an old version of OpenSSL, so the advice to upgrade to
a recent OS is solid in any case.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread bpa


mavit wrote: 
> It doesn't seem to be that, since the following command works,
> indicating support for TLS 1.0:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > openssl s_client -connect np.radioplayer.co.uk:443 -tls1  > 

What version of OpenSSL are you using to test ?
Could the problem be in openssl 1.0.* (and associated libraries) trying
to access a site which can support TLS 1.3  but which openssl 1.0.*
doesn't know about ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread mavit


bpa wrote: 
> 
> I suspect Radioplayer needs/checks for TLS 1.3 which was only supported
> from OpenSSL 1.1.* onwards and this causes the initial error. There may
> be a race condition somewhere.

It doesn't seem to be that, since the following command works,
indicating support for TLS 1.0:


Code:

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread bpa


bins wrote: 
> Thanks for all the help - I will upgrade to Buster at some point - I'm
> reluctant to just upgrade openssl (if that is even possible) on jessie -
> don't want to break anything else

If you use other internet service such as plugin repositories, audio on
demand, and many radio stations - you'll hit the "https" issue.  I think
you should prepare for an upgrade and as Ronnie said - insitu upgrade
Jessie to stretch is a pain - better to make a new image and go to
Buster. If you are not forced then you can prepare a separate sdcard
with Buster/LMS setup, get it working to your satisfaction knowing that
you can still use the Jessie sdcard while you iron out Buster issues..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2020-10-06 Thread bpa


Interesting post of a user (
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113028-LMS-Suddenly-Stopping
) whose LMS has stopped playing and seems to have the same issue -
repeated https failures preventing LMS from playing.
> 
> When I hover over the icon in task bar, it says LMS stopped? So I
> restart and the song plays a short time before LMS stops again?
> Checked my modem and it is working ok.
> 
> So I went to LMS log & I see this repeating all thru the log?;
> 
> [20-10-06 17:38:53.2556] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149)
> https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead:
> http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml
> [20-10-06 17:38:53.2571] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146)
> Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml:
> Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor
> [20-10-06 17:38:53.2572] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149)
> https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead:
> http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml
> [20-10-06 17:38:53.2586] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146)
> Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml:
> Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor
> [20-10-06 17:38:53.2588] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149)
> https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead:
> http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml
> [20-10-06 17:38:53.2602] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146)
> Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml:
> Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor
> [20-10-06 17:38:53.2604] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149)
> https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead:
> http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml
> [20-10-06 17:38:53.2617] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146)
> Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml:
> Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor
> 

The other post is from a Windows 7.9.2 system which is known for the
https problem but not for the tight spinning on the same error.  bins
problem is on a Pi and LMS updates didn't fix it. 

Ronnie (aka Man in a van) did sterling work with a series of tests on
various version of OS/libraries and although there was https failures  -
the spinning behaviour did not show up.
This make me believe the root of the problem of LMS "spinning" on the
http GET failures is somewhere within the Perl supporting support
modules and libraries possibly Openssl and not within BBCiPlayer plugin.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2020-10-06 Thread jeroen2


cpd73 wrote: 
> I can add for pCP, but (AFAIK) there is no way for me to know a player
> is from Volumio - and I don't want to add non-funcitonal links for all
> players.

Thanks, that makes sense, and it's a lot less useful for the Volumio
players anyway because those can always be accessed through their
network name. I personally do prefer the minimalism of the PCPs though,
so I'm switching over to those anyway. 

On a side note: Regarding on how to know which players are Volumio, I
had noticed that the first 4 digits of the MAC addresses of the Pi's
change depending on which OS you're running, where all Volumio players
have the same 4 digits and all PCP players have the same for the first 4
digits, and when I switch from Volumio to PCP it changes accordingly...
That seemed a bit odd and obscure when I first noticed, but it also
seemed too specific to be a coincidence..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2020-10-06 Thread cpd73


jeroen2 wrote: 
> Yes. Both in Volumio and PCP that's the web interface for that player,
> where you can check the status and change the settings. 
> For me, while I'm still setting up and tweaking the system, I use those
> a lot.

I can add for pCP, but (AFAIK) there is no way for me to know a player
is from Volumio - and I don't want to add non-funcitonal links for all
players.



*Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json
(Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update
messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
will be logged here.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2020-10-06 Thread cpd73


defec1 wrote: 
> Hi Ron F., Can you point me to this APK? thanks.

You can install via f-droid



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(Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update
messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
will be logged here.

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