Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
slartibartfast wrote:
> Disillusioned with Moode I tried Volumio. It seems to be working well
> apart from one thing. Even with "Seek on resume" enabled I have issues
> seeking within a track. The strange thing is it works perfectly with dsf
> tracks but a FLAC track seems to skip to the right place but playback
> goes silent after a while and playback will not continue until I skip to
> the next track. I have attached a log.
I've installed Volumio and the issue here seems to be the flac header
when seeking.
When LMS seeks to a position in a flac file, it does not send a header
and assumes that players know how to decode flac data without header,
which is a valid assumption as flac is made to be streamable from
anywhere.
Unfortunately, some UPnP device, can't handle that and *want* a header,
so the bridge re-inserts one on-the-fly with its best guess. Such header
is supposed to contain the total number of samples *if known*, 0
otherwise (see https://xiph.org/flac/format.html#stream). Of course, I
don't know how many samples LMS will send so I set it to 0, which again
is perfectly legit. But because the crappy implementation are never
ending, some don't like the this 0 size.
In the case of Volumio, the result is that as soon as the bridge closes
the connection because it has sent everything, then Volumio stops
playing. IMHO, it's a bug on their side when they receive the "end of
decode" from the flac decoder (I've implemented flac decoder already so
I know how it behaves).
One solution is to use flac header type 2 which means set the number of
samples to the maximum possible and that seems to satisfy Volumio.
Another option is to use the transcode mode ('flc' for example) instead
of 'thru' mode but then format sent to volumio will always be flac.
LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch,
1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW,
2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha
WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > It is not a memory-issue related to 32/64 bits. At this stage I'd > recommend > > - transcode to pcm > - only allow "raw" for "PCM format" (can try wav, but it it works, raw > is much better) > - use "if known" for length > > This is what will be the closest to a "classical" UPnP playback. > Remember that the most difficulty I have to handle is that in > "classical" streaming, the file size is known by the source and sent > with the HTTP response to the player. Unfortunately, in the case of a > bridge, the size of the file is unkown as LMS cannot tell. By > transcoding to pcm, the bridge is capable of estimating/calculating the > file size from the duration. To be clear, providing the size in the HTTP > is *absolutely not* mandatory in HTTP spec, but unfortunately there are > a lot of bad quality HTTP and/or UPnP stacks that assume it is always > there. Well, thank you - but as I say it only works with either fixed (full tracks, until it stops) or chunked, with which it plays about 10 seconds and then the audio drops out. With either no length or if known everything appears to play but no audio comes out. I can use PCM/fixed and get audio but as with FLAC the ends of the files are truncated 10-15 seconds early for no apparent reason. This has to be an MM5 problem since wav/flac files play fine with this plug-in in Winamp. MM5 apparently will not recognize PCM if it isn't WAV. I don't know if helps, but looking at the MM5 logs after playback stops with the MP3/fixed setup that -does- work I see repeated "MM5 [2628](R) UPnP: Control Request: Status: STOPPED" - it literally is just as if MM5 decides not to advance to the next track, and for the life of me I can't see what's happening to make that the case. Using MP3/fixed works and works perfectly in terms of playback and the crossfades, until it randomly stops. It will often play up to two hours and then just end. typecrazy789's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > Well, I'll see if I can give a try to volumio but for Moode, have you > tried to change the Resource Allocation/Audio Buffer Size to 16MB for > example instead of 4MB? It will allow Moode to request the next track > much earlier which might be enough, as I think this is a timing issue. Right... I've just wasted 3 hours of my life that I'll never get back with Moode. I'm sincerely sure this is a good packaging that puts together well-known solutions like mpd and upmpdcli but on the Pi3 I've used it's a randoness joke. Sometimes it works, sometime sit does not. It becomes unresponsive for seconds and seconds, which explains why "next track" are missed sometimes. Reboot it a few times and it works. I've used in parallel a Sonos, foobar2k and a Marantz AV so make sure I was not going crazy. Volume (hardware) becomes unresponsive, it does not respond to UPnP stop request and so on. I've wireshark'd exchanges to make sure and I've tried DeviceSpy as well to send some UPnP commands with same result: it seems that very easily it turns into a UPnP sinkhole. I have no real idea what's going on, it feels like when sending UPnP commands too "often" (like 2/sec) it's overloaded. So, I'm sorry but I won't continue to try that route. The silverline is that when doing more searches I identified an unrelated ancien bug in my plugin that I'll correct LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > Well, I'll see if I can give a try to volumio but for Moode, have you > tried to change the Resource Allocation/Audio Buffer Size to 16MB for > example instead of 4MB? It will allow Moode to request the next track > much earlier which might be enough, as I think this is a timing issue.I'll > try tomorrow morning. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
slartibartfast wrote: > The new issue is with Volumio. The issue with Moode even shows up with > the default settings of the upnpbridge plugin. Let me know which > settings you need to know. > The issue with Volumio is less serious but still annoying. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Well, I'll see if I can give a try to volumio but for Moode, have you tried to change the Resource Allocation/Audio Buffer Size to 16MB for example instead of 4MB? It will allow Moode to request the next track much earlier which might be enough, as I think this is a timing issue. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > I have a Moode player installed. Can you help me reproduce your setup so > I can investigate?The new issue is with Volumio. The issue with Moode even > shows up with the default settings of the upnpbridge plugin. Let me know which settings you need to know. The issue with Volumio is less serious but still annoying. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
slartibartfast wrote: > Disillusioned with Moode I tried Volumio. It seems to be working well > apart from one thing. Even with "Seek on resume" enabled I have issues > seeking within a track. The strange thing is it works perfectly with dsf > tracks but a FLAC track seems to skip to the right place but playback > goes silent after a while and playback will not continue until I skip to > the next track. I have attached a log. I have a Moode player installed. Can you help me reproduce your setup so I can investigate? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
Man in a van wrote: > Ah! the former colonies; time we had them back :):), please :p > > ronnie Brex-IN :p *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
scooper wrote: > And I'm east coast US. Ah! the former colonies; time we had them back :):), please :p ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Community Firmware for Squeezebox Radio/Touch/Controller and LMS 8
Hi All, 3 questions come to mind for this interesting firmware effort: Would this firmware, or another build, be applicable for the Classic devices? Would be nice to have all devices on the same revision. Would this firmware open up WPA3 support on these devices? Would this firmware open up IPv6 support on these devices? Best regards, Ron pd1acf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113479 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
typecrazy789 wrote: > I've posted several times (and had a couple of messages privately with > the author) about my trying to get LMS and the SqrSoft crossfader > plug-ins working together via the Bridge. I've been trying to solve this > riddle for months and months now. > > I finally gave up on Foobar2k because that version won't crossfade > anything shorter than :12. > > Now, I'm using MediaMonkey5 running SqrSoft version 1.72. And it works > (and works well) if I set the HTTP mode to fixed, and transcode to mp3 - > nothing else works. All my files are FLAC and if I try to use FLAC the > files all cut off substantially early. > > But the MP3 transcoding eventually fails sometimes after two hours or > longer...at some point a track will play, and then LMS will play beyond > the end of the track and the time remaining will keep advancing beyond > the actual end time of the track. Audio stops as LMS can't advance to > the next track. > > I'm not sure if this is a memory issue with the plug-in; I'm running a > 64-bit computer and this is an old, 32-bit plug-in so I've wondered if > that might be my issue. > > But too, I'm wondering if being able to use No Length would fix this, > but again I can't get it to work...a single track playing results in the > above behavior, with the track artificially adding up time at the end > and not advancing. Chunked will play for a few seconds and then the > audio disappears, and If Known does nothing. > > I should mention too that I have seen over and over it fail on songs > just under two minutes...a 1:57 or 1:58 is almost a guarantee. Which > makes me think it might be a buffer issue, but if so, I can't find it. > > Any help is greatly appreciated! It is not a memory-issue related to 32/64 bits. At this stage I'd recommend - transcode to pcm - only allow "raw" for "PCM format" (can try wav, but it it works, raw is much better) - use "if known" for lenght This is what will be the closest to a "classical" UPnP playback. Remember that the most difficulty I have to handle is that in "classical" streaming, the file size is known by the source and sent with the HTTP response to the player. Unfortunately, in the case of a bridge, the size of the file is unkown as LMS cannot tell. By transcoding to pcm, the bridge is capable of estimating/calculating the file size from the duration. To be clear, providing the size in the HTTP is *absolutely not* mandatory in HTTP spec, but unfortunately there are a lot of bad quality HTTP and/or UPnP stacks that assume it is always there. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
expectingtofly wrote: > Looks like you have some kind connectivity problem from your server. > What is BBC sounds reporting in the server logs ? Thanks Stuart. This morning it behaved but as soon as it doesn't, I'll take a look at the server log. scooper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64253 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Disillusioned with Moode I tried Volumio. It seems to be working well apart from one thing. Even with "Seek on resume" enabled I have issues seeking within a track. The strange thing is it works perfectly with dsf tracks but a FLAC track seems to skip to the right place but playback goes silent after a while and playback will not continue until I skip to the next track. I have attached a log. +---+ |Filename: seek.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35502| +---+ slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
I've posted several times (and had a couple of messages privately with the author) about my trying to get LMS and the SqrSoft crossfader plug-ins working together via the Bridge. I've been trying to solve this riddle for months and months now. I finally gave up on Foobar2k because that version won't crossfade anything shorter than :12. Now, I'm using MediaMonkey5 running SqrSoft version 1.72. And it works (and works well) if I set the HTTP mode to fixed, and transcode to mp3 - nothing else works. All my files are FLAC and if I try to use FLAC the files all cut off substantially early. But the MP3 transcoding eventually fails sometimes after two hours or longer...at some point a track will play, and then LMS will play beyond the end of the track and the time remaining will keep advancing beyond the actual end time of the track. Audio stops as LMS can't advance to the next track. I'm not sure if this is a memory issue with the plug-in; I'm running a 64-bit computer and this is an old, 32-bit plug-in so I've wondered if that might be my issue. But too, I'm wondering if being able to use No Length would fix this, but again I can't get it to work...a single track playing results in the above behavior, with the track artificially adding up time at the end and not advancing. Chunked will play for a few seconds and then the audio disappears, and If Known does nothing. Any help is greatly appreciated! typecrazy789's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] : Virgin Radio (UK) Plugin
slartibartfast wrote: > Is it just me or has artwork and track info disappeared? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Yes indeed, it looks like they have made loads of changes. The plugin can be considered broken. I'll see what can be done . Stuart McLean EXPECTINGTOFLY PLUGINS : - *BBC Sounds* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin - *Virgin Radio (UK)* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_Virgin_Radio_Plugin - *Times Radio* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_TIMES_RADIO_PLUGIN - *Global Player (UK)* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_GlobalPlayer_Plugin For BBC Sounds help see the 'BBC Sounds Wiki' (https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin/wiki). expectingtofly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63263 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113974 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] : Virgin Radio (UK) Plugin
Is it just me or has artwork and track info disappeared? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113974 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
johnrossa wrote: > If it were possible to get this plugin working again I would appreciate > it. Not sure if related to skin change? > Thanks for all the good stuff and hard work.Some more info might be useful, > it works for me. Have you enabled it for your player. The leftmost play icon in the now playing screen will be an infinity symbol if it is enabled. To enable it long press the leftmost icon (shuffle) until "Don't stop the music" options pop up. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
If it were possible to get this plugin working again I would appreciate it. Not sure if related to skin change? Thanks for all the good stuff and hard work. johnrossa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
scooper wrote: > I am running LMS 8.2.0 on pCP 8.0.0 and I can't seem to get through a > whole program without it restarting from the beginning or just simply > stopping. I have tried installing LMS on my Synology using Deezer and > encounter the same problem. I am hoping it is something simple that I am > missing, but I've no idea what else to try, and hopefully someone can > help. I don't think my wife will forgive me if we can no longer get the > BBC! Looks like you have some kind connectivity problem from your server. What is BBC sounds reporting in the server logs ? Stuart McLean EXPECTINGTOFLY PLUGINS : - *BBC Sounds* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin - *Virgin Radio (UK)* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_Virgin_Radio_Plugin - *Times Radio* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_TIMES_RADIO_PLUGIN - *Global Player (UK)* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_GlobalPlayer_Plugin For BBC Sounds help see the 'BBC Sounds Wiki' (https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin/wiki). expectingtofly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63263 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
scooper wrote: > I am running LMS 8.2.0 on pCP 8.0.0 and I can't seem to get through a > whole program without it restarting from the beginning or just simply > stopping. I have tried installing LMS on my Synology using Deezer and > encounter the same problem. I am hoping it is something simple that I am > missing, but I've no idea what else to try, and hopefully someone can > help. I don't think my wife will forgive me if we can no longer get the > BBC! Examples of which programmes might help others try to replicate the problem. Which raspberry pi and your approximate location with regard to the UK (incase we have to send the boys round :):)) ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
