Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
kristina wrote: > Thank you. Is there nothing I can do with settings to remedy this? The only option I can think of if your players supports it is to only use pcm codec and raw format. You can either let LMS transcode (it cannot always do) or use the bridge in transcode mode and set it to pcm. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
The Groundsman wrote: > WOW!! > > The season of goodwill is alive and well. > > Thank you for all you do here Stuart. +1 Thankyou Stuart for all your work and excellent plugins! gegen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Different music servers
Mattyrow wrote: > I realise LMS is a popular music server and IÂve been reading up on > alternative ones like Moode and Volumino. Many folks suggest everything > else being equal (e.g. hardware) the sound from other servers seem > better. Now if itÂs bit perfect to to each server, can software really > introduce differences, especially of the file is played native i.e. > Flac, ALAc etc > > IÂm not convinced in theory - not experimented myself yet. Just > wondered if anybody has experience? IMHO the key word here is "better" Replace this with "preferable" or "different" and there might be some substance to different people "hearing" differently. Moode and Volumio use MPD and LMS SqueezeOS (and emulaters thereof) to produce the sound (this my understanding, and not a definitive statement:p) There are people who like Moode / Volumio more than LMS, some who like Squeezelite more through Moode than LMS. One person I know, on another forum, told me that he preffered Moode to LMS because he was "cursed with perfect pitch" and that Moode worked for him and LMS did not. When I first tried Moode, about v3, I found its presentation of music different to LMS in a more detailed and (faster) dynamic way (if my memory is correct). I did not take notes, did not double blind test or ensure the volume was level matched. I did not pronounce it "better", or "best". My suggestion is that you try for yourself and back your own judgement and settle for that :):) ronnie Cables, power supplies and output stages are also, IMO, best served by the empirical experience of the user :):p Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115641 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Different music servers
Mattyrow wrote: > I realise LMS is a popular music server and Ive been reading up on > alternative ones like Moode and Volumino. Many folks suggest everything > else being equal (e.g. hardware) the sound from other servers seem > better. Now if its bit perfect to to each server, can software really > introduce differences, especially of the file is played native i.e. > Flac, ALAc etc > > Im not convinced in theory - not experimented myself yet. Just wondered > if anybody has experience? The server just does that -- it 'serves' the file to the player. There may be differences in functionality (UI, etc), but so long as the server provides the bits efficiently, as far as native formats go, there will be no difference in sound quality. And even with server-transcoded formats, unless there's something woefully lacking in the code, I doubt most people would detect a difference. There *may* be differences due to how the bits get from the server to the player -- WiFi, wired, USB, BT, etc -- due to factors like electrical-noise interference. That said, you'll find enough contradictory opinions out there about which medium is better/best to suggest there's not really much underlying difference. The player -- the DAC -- the thing that turns bits into analog signal -- is what counts. At the risk of a crude analogy, it's like editing a document file that's stored on a file server. It doesn't matter what OS the file server is running on, it's the word processor (player) you use to edit (play) the document (audio file) that will make any difference that matters. Duet x 3, via various hi-fi. LMS running on Raspberry Pi OS (Debian 10) + OMV on a Pi4 (4GB RAM) in an Argon Neo case. SpiderJon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115641 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > Seems to be a network issue: the HTTP connection is lost, and when > reconnecting, it restarts from where it stopped and in a flac file, it > means no header is sent and you player does not seem to support that. Thank you. Is there nothing I can do with settings to remedy this? kristina's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15116 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Different music servers
garym wrote: > everybody on the internet has an opinion, and most are wrong. (Yes, I > see the irony in my statement given that Im posting an opinion.) I > currently can play through my system (same amp, preamp, speakers, DAC, > etc.) through the following servers: > > > > > - LMS via rPi with piCorePlayer (primary server) - LMS via Windows 10 - foobar2000 on Windows - Roon Labs via NUC running dedicated Roon ROCK OS. > > > > > They all sound identical, as I would fully expect. > > Happy New Year to all my slimdevices friends! Same conclusions than yourself, good players do their main job, play the audio file and mange the database. I'm running LMS on Daphile. And I have a ROON CORE server. (that I don't use that much) Tête à FLAC 2 X SB Classic 2 X SB2 1 X SB Boom 2 X SB Touch 1 X Transporter 1 X Duet + Remote 4 X Rpi+ Picoreplayer 2 X Chromecast 1 X Chromecast Audio 1 X Atoll ST100 1 X Merging NADAC All devices connected via CeolBOX server aka The Musical Box Using OrangeSqueeze and Material Skin Plug-in to remote all my connected devices. mftech's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115641 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
Yatsushiro wrote: > An average of 1 post every two years and you write this? > > Put this on your Christmas list for next year... > > 36536Two of those posts were the same [emoji1787] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Different music servers
Mattyrow wrote: > I realise LMS is a popular music server and Ive been reading up > on alternative ones like Moode and Volumino. Many folks suggest > everything else being equal (e.g. hardware) the sound from other servers > seem better. Now if its bit perfect to to each server, can > software really introduce differences, especially of the file is played > native i.e. Flac, ALAc etc > > Im not convinced in theory - not experimented myself yet. Just > wondered if anybody has experience? everybody on the internet has an opinion, and most are wrong. (Yes, I see the irony in my statement given that Im posting an opinion.) I currently can play through my system (same amp, preamp, speakers, DAC, etc.) through the following servers: - LMS via rPi with piCorePlayer (primary server) - LMS via Windows 10 - foobar2000 on Windows - Roon Labs via NUC running dedicated Roon ROCK OS. They all sound identical, as I would fully expect. Happy New Year to all my slimdevices friends! *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115641 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
jakalad wrote: > Why can't it simply be a one click action - oh no we have to go > wandering around expecting to fly's ego page for half an hour. An average of 1 post every two years and you write this? Put this on your Christmas list for next year... 36536 +---+ |Filename: 9781439199190.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36536| +---+ Yatsushiro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Different music servers
I realise LMS is a popular music server and Ive been reading up on alternative ones like Moode and Volumino. Many folks suggest everything else being equal (e.g. hardware) the sound from other servers seem better. Now if its bit perfect to to each server, can software really introduce differences, especially of the file is played native i.e. Flac, ALAc etc Im not convinced in theory - not experimented myself yet. Just wondered if anybody has experience? Mattyrow's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72354 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115641 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Success: MusicIP and Spicefly Sugarcube running on Raspberry Pi
CypherMK wrote: > So this should work on a Pi4? Added a comment on the docker thead. it runs, but I can't add music. CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106958 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] ANNOUNCE: MusicIP container for ARM based systems - first release.
I did the following on an OSMC image on a raspberry Pi 4: Code: curl -sSL https://get.docker.com | sh Code: sudo usermod osmc -aG docker exit and log in Code: docker pull mwalters68/musicip-arm Code: docker run -d --name=musicip --platform=armhf -e PUID=1000 -e PGID=1000 -e TZ=Europe/London -p 10002:10002 -v /mnt/MUSIC:/music:ro -v /home/osmc/MusicIP/MusicMagicMixer:/config --restart unless-stopped mwalters68/musicip-arm That will run MusicIP! but when I try to add music it does nothing. So I went to 192.168.1.29:10002, added /mnt/MUSIC to 'enter root folder of music' and pressed 'add music'. Nothing happens Tried this from the https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi topic: Code: #! /bin/sh ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: mmserver # Required-Start: $remote_fs $syslog # Required-Stop: $remote_fs $syslog # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 # Default-Stop: 0 1 6 # Short-Description: Start MusicIP daemon at boot time # Description: Enable service provided by daemon. ### END INIT INFO # NON-PRIVIELEGED USER TO RUN MUSICMAGICSERVER. USER=osmc # PATH TO THE MUSICMAGICMIXERSERVER export MUSICHOME=/home/osmc/MusicIP/MusicMagicMixer/ case $1 in start) # next line was original # su - $USER -c $MUSICHOME"MusicMagicServer start & > /dev/null" sudo -u osmc /home/osmc/MusicIP/MusicMagicMixer/MusicMagicServer start & > /dev/null 2>&1 echo "Running MusicMagicServer" exit ;; stop) # next line was original # su - $USER -c $MUSICHOME"MusicMagicServer stop & > /dev/null" sudo -u osmc /home/osmc/MusicIP/MusicMagicMixer/MusicMagicServer stop & > /dev/null 2>&1 echo "Stopped MusicMagicServer" exit ;; *) echo "Usage: /etc/rc.d/init.d/mmserver { start | stop }" exit ;; esac But that made no difference. So what's can I try now? CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114235 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Success: MusicIP and Spicefly Sugarcube running on Raspberry Pi
sparkyuk wrote: > I built an arm based container with MusicIP - see > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114235-ANNOUNCE-MusicIP-container-for-ARM-based-systems-first-release So this should work on a Pi4? CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106958 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay Bridge - can not play to Apple TV with HomePod Minis as default output
Hi I have a new AppleTV 4K and have set two HomePod Minis as the default output. Everything works, but AirPlay via the AirtPlay bridge does not. I have paired it successfully, and when I set the default speakers to the TV speaker, it works. But when I set the HomePod Minis as the default, it does not work anymore. The AppleTV detects the airplay from the LMS Server (It stops the ongoing playback), but there is no sound. As I said, when using the TV speakers (via eHDMI I think it is called), it works. Any suggestion of settings in the AirPlay bridge, or is it a known limitation? Thanks a lot, Rainer rkrug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115640 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
jakalad wrote: > Why can't it simply be a one click action - oh no we have to go > wandering around expecting to fly's ego page for half an hour. WOW!! The season of goodwill is alive and well. Thank you for all you do here Stuart. The Groundsman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Material, show presets on screen
slartibartfast wrote: > Since presets are basically favourites I agree. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkThat explains why the are gone. And also agree, pretty similar to favorites. And since they can be rearranged a good solution I totally forgot. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's (SB2, SB3, Boom, Touch) *Server:* LMS on Pi3B+ 8.1.2 on PcP 7.0.1 *Network:* Draytek, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, Ubiquiti PoE, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115639 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Material, show presets on screen
Neither can I. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's (SB2, SB3, Boom, Touch) *Server:* LMS on Pi3B+ 8.1.2 on PcP 7.0.1 *Network:* Draytek, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, Ubiquiti PoE, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115639 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Material, show presets on screen
cpd73 wrote: > Material did add preset listing, but was subsequently removed. I see no > sense to showing these on a web UI - hardware, yes, multi-player > controller no.Since presets are basically favourites I agree. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115639 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Material, show presets on screen
slartibartfast wrote: > It seems to be mentioned in this post but I have no idea how to find > it. > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=947579 > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Material did add preset listing, but was subsequently removed. I see no sense to showing these on a web UI - hardware, yes, multi-player controller no. *Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json (Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS will be logged here. cpd73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115639 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
jakalad wrote: > Why can't it simply be a one click action - oh no we have to go > wandering around expecting to fly's ego page for half an hour. Even if your complaint were valid (which it's not) there is no excuse for being so rude. Duet x 3, via various hi-fi. LMS running on Raspberry Pi OS (Debian 10) + OMV on a Pi4 (4GB RAM) in an Argon Neo case. SpiderJon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
jakalad wrote: > Why can't it simply be a one click action - oh no we have to go > wandering around expecting to fly's ego page for half an hour. I don't know why you think you need to go to the github page, or why you think it is necessary to be so rude.It is a one click action to install from 3rd party plugins, just like any other plugin, no need to go to the github page, or be offended by it (Although, I've no idea what the content of that is that offends you so) Stuart McLean EXPECTINGTOFLY PLUGINS : - *BBC Sounds* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin - *Virgin Radio (UK)* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_Virgin_Radio_Plugin - *Times Radio* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_TIMES_RADIO_PLUGIN - *Global Player (UK)* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_GlobalPlayer_Plugin For BBC Sounds help see the 'BBC Sounds Wiki' (https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin/wiki). expectingtofly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63263 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Material, show presets on screen
edwin2006 wrote: > Perhaps already mentioned but unable to find. > > On the boom and radio you have the physical preset buttons. > Is there a option to show the presets on the material interface? Also > independent of the physical device, i.e. also if the player is a pi/pcp, > touch, transporter.It seems to be mentioned in this post but I have no idea > how to find it. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=947579 Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115639 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin
andrewhunterjohnston wrote: > I am trying to use BBC Sounds but don't see it anywhere in the 3rd party > plug ins! > Where can I find it? Why can't it simply be a one click action - oh no we have to go wandering around expecting to fly's ego page for half an hour. jakalad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113045 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Material, show presets on screen
Perhaps already mentioned but unable to find. On the boom and radio you have the physical preset buttons. Is there a option to show the presets on the material interface? Also independent of the physical device, i.e. also if the player is a pi/pcp, touch, transporter. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's (SB2, SB3, Boom, Touch) *Server:* LMS on Pi3B+ 8.1.2 on PcP 7.0.1 *Network:* Draytek, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, Ubiquiti PoE, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115639 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Material, volume change option
Is there a option so that if you click on volume it shows all playing players? Now it's only showing the current player. I know I could use manage players but that also shows all off players. Why would be the question. Well at the moment we have the top2000 and I have all players on ground level playing in sync but to maximize the multiroom effect, the volume has to be adjusted for all players individual so that when walking from one room to another the player in that room is dominant. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's (SB2, SB3, Boom, Touch) *Server:* LMS on Pi3B+ 8.1.2 on PcP 7.0.1 *Network:* Draytek, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, Ubiquiti PoE, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115637 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins