Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith wrote: Listen Again still seems to be working, even for things broadcast just a couple of hours ago. Radio 3 in 320kbps AAC and Radio 2 in 128kbps AAC. Given the huge fuss about this I assumed Listen Again was broken also. If I want to listen live I have the options of FM, DAB and Freeview all using equipment I already own. Does anyone here really not own receivers for any of those? It's Listen Again that really matters (to me anyway), because unless you had the foresight to record something in advance there is no other way to listen to it. Now I would like listening live to work again. But I really don't see it as quite so desperately must be fixed by tomorrow levels of urgency others here and on the BBC blog have been stating. I own devices but you need a signal - not available in a stone house on the edge of Salisbury Plain IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: It is a BBC problem and this happens occasionally with the official BBC feed which BBCiPlayer uses - it is usually sorted in 24 hours. As a workaround (and created as a backup to BBCiPlayer) , the BBCiPlayerExtra uses unofficial BBC feeds and has these programs either under Listen Again or under National Radio Schedules, Radio 4FM and at then end of menu Radio 4 FM yesterday . Thank you. As this has been a problem now for many weeks (more than a month) it sounds systematic rather than a one off error. Is there any contact at the BBC we can nudge? I tried an e-mail address in an earlier thread but had no response. IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Hi a few weeks back much of radio 4 went missing. I now never see In our time and nothing much shows up after 19:45pm. I haven't been able to listen to the world tonight except a live. the missing programs don't show up even when I look under program title rather than by day of week. Lots of other pogroms don't seem to appear. I tried the BBC streaming e-mail address via email but received no reply. Anyone any ideas? Is there are local file with the data in that I can check e.g. XXML? to see if the programs are listed at all (and not being parsed) or just not there. Do I need to change a data type? [Does anyone else see w the World Tonight?] IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
After upgrading both my servers will only play listen again - the one that used to only play live [with WMA preferred (only] on the old player now can play listen again but won't play live any more. When I choose to play live the server shows BBC Radio 4 FM / 0, AAC Internet Radio. A timer counts up to the left of the progress bar, the bar does mot move and it says 0:00 (1 of 1) at the end of the bar. My SB Radio says connecting with a large radio 4 icon displayed. Occasionally it switches to buffering 1% and then after some time, buffering 2% before switching back to Connecting -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
SB Radio Squeeze server shows details of SomaFM and says 48kbps CBR, AAC Internet Radio (started CBR,pls) Player just says connecting with a scrolling description of the station SB3 Squeeze server shows details of SomaFM and says 48kbps CBR, AAC Internet Radio (started 0,pls) Player just says connecting with a scrolling description of the station Before the upgrade this server would play live with Prefer WMA (only) but it wouldn't play listen again. Now it's the other way around -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I need isntructions I think - don't use the applet. Btw the way last night at about 2am my SB Radio played a blast of radio (it had been stuck on live since about 6pm). I didn't think much about it - perhaps I had knocked it. But now it has jsut played a balst (approx 1 hour after I treied the conenctions you asked ). So perhaps the slow 1% , 2% is real. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa;666472 Wrote: This means your system have a problem playing streaming HTTP/AAC in general and not specific to BBC. The SomaFM stream is 48kbits/sec - much slower than BBC's 320kbits/sec so it means it is unlikely to be network congestion, bandwidth or timeout issue. Assuming you haven't disabled native AAC under Settings/Advanced/File Types, since both Radio and Sb3 are affected makes it looks like a network config issue - possibly PC firewall and/or router security. If you want to carry out a similar test for WMA stream try the SomaFM WMA URL - this is a 32kbit./sec WMA stream for same station. http://somafm.com/wma/illstreet.asx So that works fine. So what does AAC do? If anyone can tell me the protocol details I can clearly WMA and AAC do different things. [enjoying the channel! a hammond medley - Girl from Ipanema right now] -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa;666478 Wrote: MP3, WMA and AAC are different ways audio is converted into a data stream. HTTP and Flash are different transport mechanisms to move the audoi data stream from Station to player. For HTTP streams, the SB3 can play MP3, WMA natively but needs AAC streams to be transcoded. The SB Radio can play MP3, WMA and AAC natively. Flash stream needs support in SBS server or Triode's Applet for Touch or Radio. To get your system working please do not use Flash stream as it adds an extra layer of complexity to the current problem. When a stream is played natively the stream will go direct from station to the player. When a stream is being transcoded the stream will go from Station to SBS where it is converted into Flac and then Flac streram goes from SBS to player. It's good that the WMA stream play OK for both players. Can you check WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetype - under the FileFormat AAC - what values are set for the 4 settings - AAC, Flac, MP3 and PCM. AAC AAC Native FLAC faad/flac MP3 Disabled PCM faad -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Using the lovely new i-player settings I have set the following Live Stream Preference WMA (only) On demand Stream preference (AAC - FlashAAC-WMA) default. I can play both live and listen again from both my SB Radio and SB3 (at least for now - I have had flash dawns before). What I cannot figure is what is going on? I am sure it has something to do with my Forefront Server acting both as a firewall and proxy... I can't see how my firewall rules can allow/block traffic from the same devices for live vs on demand - unless there are other protocols involved during setup? Any ideas? -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
IanCHC;665497 Wrote: This underlines my lack of udnerstanding here - I see 128 combinations (6 check boxes) which I why I awlays lose heart at the prospect of trying them all. [I am downloading 7.6.2 for the 25th I'll see if anything changes.] Changing to 7.6.2 on the server that has perfer WMA as the only setting has made listen again appear! I'll try the other one - and, if successful one of my servers will be for the chop... Thank you -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
IanCHC;665641 Wrote: Changing to 7.6.2 on the server that has perfer WMA as the only setting has made listen again appear! I'll try the other one - and, if successful one of my servers will be for the chop... Thank you Actually that would be 64 combintations - can't believe I got that wrong - I spend half my life showing people how to subnet in IPv4 so I ought to know 2^6 =64 by now (still too many for my small brain). -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa;665643 Wrote: I don't know of a change in 7.6.2 that affects WMA. Is prefer WMA the ONLY box that is checked ? Yes. This AM I got update on the SB Radio. Live was working to I tried listen again and it worked. My 1st thought was that the update had changed the I iPlayer settings - but only WMA was selected. Of course, I changed the server and I changed SB Radio so any number of things might have happened -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa;665643 Wrote: I don't know of a change in 7.6.2 that affects WMA. Is prefer WMA the ONLY box that is checked ? Short lived joy. Just tried from an SB3 player - no listen again whilst connected to the updated WMA only server. Went back to the SB radio - back to no listen again - I get a picture and that's it. So this morning's temporary connection after the update was a blip. I have to wonder about proxy settings. My firewall is a proxy and a firewall I wonder if one server knows about the proxy and the other doesn't? Too many options -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
It does. But I think I would have to tell it the dns domain names involved (forefront TMG 2010) -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith;665406 Wrote: I think the next question from BPA might be: on both servers? Yes - both the same Both are also set ot update software automatically. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa;665414 Wrote: Since you are using 7.6.1 - HTTP/AAC is the normal live stream format and so if the bug is affecting your servers - then you would find that using WMA for live streams would deliver a more reliable service. However the bug only affects transcoded AAC streams which means the bug would not affect playing live HTTP/AAC streams on your SBRadio. So a little more info on which combination of format AAC/WMA, server old/new and player radio/SB3 - works or fails would be helpful as there are 6 combinations. I think this bug might explain the problems with live stream format - upgrading to 7.6.2 would test this out. If so, then the listen again format issue is a separate issue. This underlines my lack of udnerstanding here - I see 128 combinations (6 check boxes) which I why I awlays lose heart at the prospect of trying them all. [I am downloading 7.6.2 for the 25th I'll see if anything changes.] -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I have had trouble with live vs listen again for some months now. I have not made much progress on working out what is going on. Currently, I have two squeeze servers running, both with up to date i-Players. Both are on the same network behind the same Forefront firewall. One plays live but no listen again and vice- versa Live playing server has Prefer WMA streams as its only setting Listen again playing server has everything but prefer WMA enabled (native AAC, Flash AAC, Flash MP3 and Show Live Text). Anyone any thoughts? (Other than the obvious try some other combinations - which I have tried before and I am not convinced that without resetting everything that just switching check boxes always gives the same result i.e. previous state may alter the result). Ideally, I'd like to use one server for both. By the way, the external firewall does not reference either -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Because it just happened that way. I had a single squeezebox server and I was unable to reliably get both live and listen again to work reliably for some time. After one of the BBC format changes some months ago I started having trouble (with my original squeezebox server). I tried to follow advice about AAC, flash etc. in the forums and posted a few questions but often found I needed to the restart the server before I could get one of the services to start and was always changing the check boxes but with (from my view) unpredictable results. As the machine running the squeezebox was a heavily used workstation that has had hundreds of things installed on it at various times and has had seen several updates to squeeze server, i-player etc. I decided to build a brand new clean Windows 7 dedicated virtual machine with nothing else on it; then install a brand new squeeze server and apply the latest i-player plugin and leave everything with default settings. I was somewhat disappointed to find that when connected to this server I couldn't get live - it appears to start and sometimes flashes buffering 2% or 3% (never more) before remaining stuck on connecting [this is the one that has all but WMA checked]. Since I had a system in which changing library allowed me to have live or listen again (and this is quite easy on the radio - less so on my SB3s) I decided to live with it since I had now got back to where I was 6 months ago (with my original server) in that I can now hear either which is much better than what I had before. Ideally, I'd have one server by I am loathed to change anything and get back to frustrating scenario I had most of the summer. In particular, I am nervous of making I don't feel I understand what the various option actually do- in that I don't have a matrix in my head of pros, cons, radio program type and actual low level protocols associated with each of the options. e.g. I still don't understand why I should need the choices - isn't there just a correct configuration fora UK user? -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
and your suggestion sounds like a great idea to me (: An option button saying automatically determine best setting or an option Manually configure which then allows the current list of check boxes. Presumably this would make those of us with less clue immune to BBC changes - either the auto detect just gets around it or the automatic detect order could be tweaked for best behavior by an update? Thank you for this - I pretty well only use my squeeze equipment with the i-player these days. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
BPA: I am using Version: 7.6.1 - r33110 -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I too found that old conenctions seemed to work (that's why I originally thought that some players were working when the issue started) I've been looking for some logs and turned on debugging for the iplayer (will this do anything ie.e. does the player have debug output?) I have seen this a few times (when AAC is on and live won't work) Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist for, http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio4_q?s=1312568624e=1312583024h=1a264e2eba37550f2b5b6044f108b218: Timed out waiting for data. When I connect to the URL from the same computer on which squeeze server runs I get a conenction and slow (never ending) download - I guess some kind of feed. As soon as I turn on AAC - I lose live With AAC, Player says 0,pls and counts for a few seconds - sometimes there's a fleeting error message -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I am in the UK I am using the plugin. I shouldn't be proxying - but there are a number of HTML filters in place AAC has worked in the past. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I am using a proxy/firewall - Microsoft TMG 2010 as it happens. It sholdn't really be proxying (execpt cache). I have static public IP addresses externally I have made no recent changes to the configuration of TMG that should have any effect on squeeze. Did the changes to authentication/text changes make any differences to expectations from the player's point of view Is there a list of ports and protocols that are epxected for BBC i-platey/squeeze? e.g. a tbale I still can't get my head around it working sometimes - the time taken to drop out varies as well - it's alsmot as if one thing fails before the other the result is different. Thanks -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
So do these thigns have ports/protols WMA? AAC? Also what port does the live text use? Thanks I suppose I can run a network trace to see if I can figure it out - but if anyone knows -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Since last week none of my players have played well with BBC I-player plug-in. (all other stuff seems to work fine - e.g. music, other internet radio formats) Basically the players say connecting a lot - I get pictures and sometimes descriptions - the web page says playing. SB Radio seems to be least happy I have found that if I keep connecting suddenly they might pick up. Also restarting the SB radio seems to make it pick up the streams from the point the server;s web page claims to be at. Right now my SB3 player is trying to listen to radio 4 live - it sas 0,XML radio on the web page - counts for a while then stops. No idea what 0,XML is Sometimes I get (on the webpage for the server) CBR,WMA (I guess this is constant bit rate windows media audio ) other times ASX - which seems never to work. 3 weeks back everything worked properly. Problems appeared one evening and I couldn't even get the BBC's own web page to play - authentication dialog started appearing. Can anyone suggest what logs to look at (where they are)? Also is there a list of what the different formats are and how the player decides which to use? Thanks -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Windows 7 64 server Sb3 x 2 SB radio I have tried Prefer WMA Native AAC MP3 flash Each does the same with listen again - connecting (indefinitely - or sometimes 504 proxy timeout). Until last week I was happily listening to live and listen again. Then after the night where my radio web page (from the BBC) started prompting for a login (the authentication change) I have had listen again, no live, then live and no listen again. All updates have been applied as far as I know. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Does this new BBC authentication protocol involve new ports (or protocols)? I have no live now. My loss of live might be a firewall issue. I noted that midweek I couldn't use any links from radio 4's own website becauase of an authentication error but that self fixed. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I set it to use native AAC streams only ... still runs for a few seconds, displays program title and then quits. turning off live text means it doesn't display the title but quits. Use flash AAC counts for 5 to 6 seconds then stops as well Use flash MP3 as the only setting works [but appears to be playing Windows Media (??) - not sure I understand media protocols at all] Sorry not to know - but what log should I be looking at (where will it be Windows 7?) I am in the UK by the way. Are there ports associated with each of these protocols? Perhaps AAC has never worked for my live streams and the change of preference in the player just highlighted this (but presumably the new player didn't fall back to flash MP3 any more?) (again apologies for ignorance - I know quite a bit about networking in general What would be the preferred settings for UK play of BBC radio live and listen again? (with a fairly powerful 64 bit CPU for rendering to SB3s and SB Radio)? Thanks for any information. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Thanks The only check box selected was flash MP3 and then live played (but shows WMA) - so does that mean that the WMA is the default anyway whether it is preferred. Setting only WMA preferred seems to get everthing running again. Thank you. Any idea as to why no AAC? -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
This morning my squeeze radio wanted to update - in fact it asked twice. Now I can't get iplyaer live. It still works on on my SB3 but on the radio it runs for 5 seconds (says fetching tracks) with no output then says that there was a timeout. I note that there may have been an update to the player. No idea is this is related. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Now one of the SB3 is not playing like the SB Radio. On the web page the following message appears 0, PLS Internet Radio -BBCIplayer is v 1.1.21 -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Sorry to dripfeed When the tiemout occurs - banner text descrbing the program then appears next to the logo and the following message appears at the bottom of the screen Timed out waiting for data http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4_aaclca.pls?livetxt=pubsub.livetext.radio4 Settings All boxes seesm to be failing now - I wonder if the SB3s werent working at all earlier (but had last been used on live) - I am at one end of the house on the PC - too far away to hear any of the players. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I find that some programs won't play on my squeezebox classic. I have AAC running on a windows based server with automatic updates turned on. From the the squeezbox server's web page it is obvious which programs won't play. Most programs, if I click on them show a BBC iplayer logo with a play and plus icon and a url rtmp://bbmedia.. The one's that won't play show a photograph with no url or buttons. Sorry if this is alreay covered in one of the previous 62 pages. Settings for the i-player are use flassh aac streams -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
I have now tried reinstalling several 7.3 builds. I get the same result - live plays fine (as WMA). Listen again will not play - timer displays on web page (runs indefinitely), name of program appears on the SB - but no sound. changing the settings in BBC iplayer from advanced, change what picture I get on the properties of the listen again programme in the web UI - with MP3 I get an i-player logo and play/queue buttons - with AAC I get a picture of the presenter/studio but no buttons at all. I seem to remember that when I first realised that I could install i-player on the ReadyNAS (and remove squeeze center from my desktop so it could sleep) I think I found that I had to set prefer WMA - but as a practising idiot, I didn't write this down. So it seems to me possibilities are: 1) I removed something important after trying to clear up multiple 7.4s problem using SSH and I now can't process a format I could before 2) Something about 0.9f is just different and doesn't work on my config (I note there is another thread about iplayer not playing listen again on QNAP - sounds very similar) 3) The BBC changed something - that happened just about when I did my 7/4 upgrade 4) Something else. Thanks I think I might post a better titled thread to see if anyone has go this config working - having spent many hours installing and reinstalling I would be encouraged to continue if someone else has succeeded. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play Listen Again on ReadyNAS nv+
I have already posted about this elsewhere and don't want to duplicate but I would like to know if anyone is successfully using iPlayer listen again with the Readynas with the latest iPlayer. In which case I'd be very interested to know about version (radiator, squeeze version etc.) and which settings you have on the advanced BBC iPlayer screen. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71261 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
hmm Not sure how to collect all the bits - do they do in server log. However, I note that I have errors already. +---+ |Filename: server[1].log| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8692| +---+ -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
The web was showing the below (the player shows the title of the show) Title: The Media Show URL: rtmp://cp48186.edgefcs.net:1935?icon=aHR0cDovL25vZGUxLmJiY2ltZy5jby51ay9pcGxheWVyL2ltYWdlcy9lcGlzb2RlL2IwMG5xaHN6XzUxMl8yODguanBnapp=b25kZW1hbmQ/X2Zjc192aG9zdD1jcDQ4MTg2LmVkZ2VmY3MubmV0JmF1dGg9ZGJFY2dheGR4YW5iUWNvYW5iamRFZDVicGQ5Y3ViZ2RXZHMtYmsuVDJ3LWMwLWQwaV8tSG5vR0Ruem9IRHJFcXhMJmFpZnA9djAwMSZzbGlzdD1zZWN1cmUvcmFkaW80L1JCTjJfcmFkaW9fNF9mbV8tX3dlZG5lc2RheV8xMzMwX2IwMG5xZzQ4XzIwMDlfMTFfMTFfMTRfMzRfMTY=ttl=MTI1Nzk1NDYxOQ==duration=MTgwMA==tcurl=cnRtcDovL2NwNDgxODYuZWRnZWZjcy5uZXQ6ODAvb25kZW1hbmQ/X2Zjc192aG9zdD1jcDQ4MTg2LmVkZ2VmY3MubmV0JmF1dGg9ZGJFY2dheGR4YW5iUWNvYW5iamRFZDVicGQ5Y3ViZ2RXZHMtYmsuVDJ3LWMwLWQwaV8tSG5vR0Ruem9IRHJFcXhMJmFpZnA9djAwMSZzbGlzdD1zZWN1cmUvcmFkaW80L1JCTjJfcmFkaW9fNF9mbV8tX3dlZG5lc2RheV8xMzMwX2IwMG5xZzQ4XzIwMDlfMTFfMTFfMTRfMzRfMTY=swfurl=streamname=bXAzOnNlY3VyZS9yYWRpbzQvUkJOMl9yYWRpb180X2ZtXy1fd2VkbmVzZGF5XzEzMzBfYjAwbnFnNDhfMjAwOV8xMV8xMV8xNF8zNF8xNj9hdXRoPWRiRWNnYXhkeGFuYlFjb2FuYmpkRWQ1YnBkOWN1YmdkV2RzLWJrLlQydy1jMC1kMGlfLUhub0dEbnpvSERyRXF4TCZhaW ZwPXYwMDE=desc=TGliZWwgbGF3IHJlZm9ybSwgWC1GYWN0b3Igc3VjY2VzcyBhbmQgY292ZXJhZ2Ugb2YgdGhlIFBNJ3MgbGV0dGVyIHRvIEphY3F1aSBKYW5lcy4=url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY28udWsvbWVkaWFzZWxlY3Rvci80L210aXMvc3RyZWFtL2IwMG5xZzQ4update=UGx1Z2luczo6QkJDaVBsYXllcjo6QkJDTVNQYXJzZXI=.mp3 +---+ |Filename: server[1].zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8693| +---+ -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
Thanks for that. What I don't understand it how it was working until I upgraded. I have not added or removed any pertinent rules from my ISA server for months. Until I tried my update (7.4 and I guess mew iPlayer), I was happily listening again from my ReadyNAS for months? I suppose, I should not look a gift horse in the mouth - but I am curious. (My web UI now shows a picture on the righthand side - which is new - didn't used to get that when lsitening again before it all went wrong). Thanks IanC -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play Listen Again on ReadyNAS nv+
BPA has fixed this for me (thanks) - it's port 1935 on the firewall. Odd thing is, that this port has never been open on my ISA server but listen again was working just before I made the upgrade to 7.4 and updated my IPlayer plugin. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71261 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
So far everything seems to work... thank you. I know that the upgrade, updated the iPlayer - I was susprised to find it hadn't done this automatically. The firewall is on a separate Windows 2003 server running Microsoft's ISA server. (If there is a firewall capability on the Readynas - I know nothing about it - Linux is not my thing) Thanks -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
Sorry - I don't want to mislead you. It has nothing to do with Windows 2003 server in my case. I run Microsoft's Internet Security and Acceleration Server (a firewall proxy server) application on Windows 2003 server. This sits between my block of public IP addresses and my internal network - where one of my server happens to be the ReadyNAS. As with most firewalls, its default approach is pass nothing. I (of course) had long ago opened port 80 so that explains as you say, why i-player was working. All connections to or from the internal network have to pass through this device - the fact that it runs on Windows 2003 server makes no difference. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
When I am listening live I see the following on the squeezebox server web pages BBC Radio 4 BBC 128kbps CBR, WMA Internet Radio and then a timer? Does that mean that WMA is working? -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
A few weeks ago I started upgrading. I went through the multiple instance problem with 7.4, cleaned up in various ways (including rm'ing from ssh) and have now installed 7.4.1 twice. Basically I can play using list live but not from listen again e.g. today, Tuesday. I get the list of programs ( a bit slow) I can play them both from the player and :9000 web site but although the website claims they are playing I only ever see the program title. The iplayer is currently v0.9f. I think I might go back to 7.3 (as I have now been missing my radio 4 for some weeks) but I will hang around in 7.4.1 a little longer in case anyone more knowledgeable than I has suggestions or wants me to gather some information. Thank you -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.4.1 ReadyNAS NV + an BBC i-player
Thanks for the suggestion. Tried it No joy - only flash MP3 is now set. Result the same. The server seems to believe it is playing - the clock is counting on the website but the player is stuck at 0. This happens whether I start playing from the website or from the squeeze player. So the squeeze player's messages seem to reach the server and the server believes it is streaming. Perhaps I'd do best to go back 7.3 versions? -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70529 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Hello I am having a problem with listen again - live works fine. I also had the same issue with several 7.41 interim builds - the last time it worked was with the 7.4 [but that once suffered form the multiple instances problem]. I see all the program listings and can choose a progam - but nothing other than the program name banner ever appears. The slim server web page claims that it is playing to the device for a while - it counts time happily but no sound. I have a readyNAS Nv as the server. During the upgrade I used the cleandb, removed all old versions, applied, clenadb again etc. Previously I enabled ssh and used a set of instructions posted elsewhere in this forum to clean up all the squeeze stuff from 7.4 Any thoughts or things I should check? Thank you -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Thank you - would never have thought of that. For anyone else who is using Vista - the vista equivalent is \Users\All Users\SqueezeCenter\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I find that whenever I use pause on a listen again I nearly always end up back at the start of the program. When unpausing it seems to carry on playing for a while then it jsut flips back the start of the whole program. I think that the time it continues playing relate to the duration of the pause (not really measured). I had the same issue when I used Alien as well. elfez;402944 Wrote: (Wasn't sure if to post this as a new topic or not - feel free to hurl abuse my way if I got it wrong). Haven't seen any reference to this elsewhere, but whenever I press pause while listening to a listen again source (as opposed to live) the player seems to lose it's position, and acts more like a mute function. So at the moment I end up having to download stuff I want to be sure to listen to by using get_iplayer, which is a pity. I haven't done any serious measurements, but it certainly seems to lose position after just a few minutes. Any thoughts on what might be going on? Anyways, thanks for a very nice plugin. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
iplayer on Windows Xp SP3 (latest SC ) and on Vista X64. In both cases no live from BBC Alien works by the way. PS Where do plugins downloaded by the extensions downloader go? -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC R4 Listen Again - no programmes found message
Just for info - I have the same problem. I have added nothing to basic install. One day it worked, then (a few weks) ago listen again stopped. Nonetheless - thanks for producing this it is appreciated. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39874 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Alien BBC R4 Listen Again Blank
Sorry if this is a well-known issue but I am a newish user. My Radio 4 listen again list has gone blank. Radio 4 A-Z is still there. AlienBBC 1.06 slimserver 6.5.4 Windows Vista. Any suggestions welcome. -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38914 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
