Gotta hand it to Trooper York (from Brooklyn) on this one - comment on the Althouse blog

2009-03-21 Thread dick thompson





  

   
  
   yashu said... 
  
"...Rather
than just putting on a show, he's encouraging people to waste their
time on completely ineffective "tea parties" that are supposedly
grassroots but which are promoted by questionable groups and through
things like a video surreptitiously from the GOP."

Ah yes, as opposed to really authentic expressions of the will of the
people like the The Pledge Project Canvass, described here: Obama plans huge pledge drive for his policies.

"The
Pledge Project Canvass is an unprecedented effort by a president to
reach beyond Congress and tap grassroots supporters for help.
Volunteers recruited online by Obama's Organizing for America, a
post-election group, will ask citizens to sign a pledge in support of
the president's policies on energy, health care and education. [...]

"This
is just the beginning for us," said Jeremy Bird, deputy national
director of Organizing for America, in an online video to Obama
supporters this week. "The establishment in Washington won't welcome
this new direction easily. We can't let this plan be debated solely
behind closed doors in Washington, D.C."

And here's the heart of it, from Deputy Director Bird:

"For
anyone who questions why the President has offered this plan, these
pledges will be the answer: because the American people demanded it.

The
Pledge Canvass will also be the first step in growing our movement, and
growing a nation-wide network to support our agenda for change. This is
just the beginning for us. Throughout this year, we'll be organizing to
bring an end to this economic crisis, and to build a solid foundation
for America's economy. We'll be mobilizing people everywhere and
holding our elected officials accountable until we see bold change: the
change we need."

**

Orwell would have a field day with this administration.
  
  4:42 PM 
  
   kibitzer62
said... 
  
"That is one aspect of the definition of liberal..one who
changes and adapts."


>From Bertrand Russell's "A History of Western Philosophy" Chapter XV:

Kant,like
Darwin, gave rise to a movement which he would have detested. Kant was
a liberal, a democrat, a pacifist, but those who professed to develop
his philosophy were none of these things. Or,if they still called
themselves Liberals, they were Liberals of a new species. Since
Rousseau and Kant, there have been two schools of liberalism, which may
be distinguished as the hard-headed and the soft-hearted. The
hard-headed developed, through Bentham, Ricardo, and Marx, by logical
stages into Stalin; the soft-hearted, by other logical stages through
Fichte, Byron, Carlyle, and Nietzsche, into Hitler. This statement, of
course, is too schematic to be quite true, but it may serve as a map
and a mnemonic. The stages in the evolution of ideas have had almost
the quality of the Hegelian dialectic: doctrines have developed, by
steps that each seem natural, into their opposites.
  
  
  


  
   Trooper York said... 
  
HD house said:

Now to moron number 1 (boy I hate to do this so early but if we must to
get back to the topic, then shall be it)...FEN.
I think I just said enough by saying the name of the dark one.
Then
moron #2.. enter KNOX..according to this nitwit i'm "childishly
insulting... and yet attempt to achieve some sort of high-mindedness at
the same time"
kinda like a kid on stilts right?


A
typical lyrical post from that erudite wit HD House whose incoherence
is only matched by his bile. While chiding others for being Childishly
insulting he never fails to try to mock Sarah Palin by such cute
phrases as you betcha to mock the unwashed masses he presumes worship
the Alaskan governor who he holds in contempt. As he is contemptuous of
most of his fellow citizens and commenters. As an elitist liberal of
the old school, HD knows better than his fellow citizens what should be
done in the governance of our democracy. A mere plumber or even an
Alaskan governor should sit down and shut up and pay their confiscatory
taxes in silence while their betters determine how the ship of state
will sail. You see these are the people who scare him and who he must
mock and denigrate. The electrician who fixes his mansion in the
Hamptons. The waitress who serves him his oatmeal at the diner. The
plumber who clears his toilet. Working people who foolishly think they
should keep their hard earned pay instead of turning it over to their
betters who will redistribute to others in more favored classes that
dwell in a state of perpetual victimization. You know to spread it
around. To be fair.

Once the liberal group think and media
manipulation by a malignant cabal of leftist journalists and Democratic
activists was exposed, old warhorse HD sprang into action. He
immediately tried to throw sand in the face of everyone by attacking to
change the 

Re: Gotta hand it to Trooper York (from Brooklyn) on this one - comment on the Althouse blog

2009-03-21 Thread rigsy03

I think Obama knows how to use mob rule to his advantage and citizens
should study the French Revolution. The motives were jealousy, envy,
unfair taxation and an empty treasury and the monarchy fell.

On Mar 21, 8:54�pm, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote:
 � � � � 
 http://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=6329595postID=1638111...

 � � Blogger yashu http://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837
 � � said...

 � � � � ...Rather than just putting on a show, he's encouraging people
 � � � � to waste their time on completely ineffective tea parties that
 � � � � are supposedly grassroots but which are promoted by questionable
 � � � � groups and through things like a video surreptitiously from the
 � � � � GOP.

 � � � � Ah yes, as opposed to really authentic expressions of the will
 � � � � of the people like the The Pledge Project Canvass
 � � � � 
 http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/obamaforamerica/gGx5Yc,
 � � � � described here: Obama plans huge pledge drive for his policies
 � � � � 
 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/20/MNMO16JJD

 � � � � The Pledge Project Canvass is an unprecedented effort by a
 � � � � president to reach beyond Congress and tap grassroots supporters
 � � � � for help. Volunteers recruited online by Obama's Organizing for
 � � � � America, a post-election group, will ask citizens to sign a
 � � � � pledge in support of the president's policies on energy, health
 � � � � care and education. [...]

 � � � � This is just the beginning for us, said Jeremy Bird, deputy
 � � � � national director of Organizing for America, in an online video
 � � � � to Obama supporters this week. The establishment in Washington
 � � � � won't welcome this new direction easily. We can't let this plan
 � � � � be debated solely behind closed doors in Washington, D.C.

 � � � � And here's the heart of it, from Deputy Director Bird:

 � � � � For anyone who questions why the President has offered this
 � � � � plan, these pledges will be the answer: because the American
 � � � � people demanded it.??

 � � � � The Pledge Canvass will also be the first step in growing our
 � � � � movement, and growing a nation-wide network to support our
 � � � � agenda for change. This is just the beginning for us. Throughout
 � � � � this year, we'll be organizing to bring an end to this economic
 � � � � crisis, and to build a solid foundation for America's economy.
 � � � � We'll be mobilizing people everywhere and holding our elected
 � � � � officials accountable until we see bold change: the change we need.

 � � � � **

 � � � � Orwell would have a field day with this administration.

 � � � � 4:42 PM
 � � � � 
 http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/03/protein-wisdom-on-what-ezra-klei...

 � � � � 
 http://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=6329595postID=4375159...

 � � OpenID kibitzer62 https://me.yahoo.com/kibitzer62#b09e5 said...

 � � � � That is one aspect of the definition of liberal..one who
 � � � � changes and adapts.

 � � � � �From Bertrand Russell's A History of Western Philosophy
 � � � � Chapter XV:

 � � � � Kant,like Darwin, gave rise to a movement which he would have
 � � � � detested. Kant was a liberal, a democrat, a pacifist, but those
 � � � � who professed to develop his philosophy were none of these
 � � � � things. Or,if they still called themselves Liberals, they were
 � � � � Liberals of a new species. Since Rousseau and Kant, there have
 � � � � been two schools of liberalism, which may be distinguished as
 � � � � the hard-headed and the soft-hearted. The hard-headed developed,
 � � � � through Bentham, Ricardo, and Marx, by logical stages into
 � � � � Stalin; the soft-hearted, by other logical stages through
 � � � � Fichte, Byron, Carlyle, and Nietzsche, into Hitler. This
 � � � � statement, of course, is too schematic to be quite true, but it
 � � � � may serve as a map and a mnemonic. The stages in the evolution
 � � � � of ideas have had almost the quality of the Hegelian dialectic:
 � � � � doctrines have developed, by steps that each seem natural, into
 � � � � their opposites.

 � � http://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=6329595postID=598...

 Blogger Trooper York
 http://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194 said...

 � � HD house said:

 � � Now to moron number 1 (boy I hate to do this so early but if we must
 � � to get back to the topic, then shall be it)...FEN.
 � � I think I just said enough by saying the name of the dark one.
 � � Then moron #2.. enter KNOX..according to this nitwit i'm childishly
 � � insulting... and yet attempt to achieve some sort of high-mindedness
 � � at the same time
 � � kinda like a kid on stilts right?

 � � A typical lyrical post from that erudite wit HD House whose
 � � incoherence is only matched by his bile. While chiding others for
 � � being Childishly insulting he never fails to try to mock Sarah
 � � Palin by such cute phrases as you betcha to mock the