Re: where is the change part 2
Mark: I would rather have the clintonistas than the Saul Alinski crowd. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:08 PM, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so all the messiah keep doing is recycling the same old clinton people. one after another after another after another and on and on. all we heard for a year was change change change. no change here, just more of the same old same old regurgitated clinton puke. more lies from the savior. -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change part 2
mark, Ok, boo-fucking-hoo. On Dec 4, 5:08 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so all the messiah keep doing is recycling the same old clinton people. one after another after another after another and on and on. all we heard for a year was change change change. no change here, just more of the same old same old regurgitated clinton puke. more lies from the savior. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change????????????????
ha ha ha very funny. tell that to my black husband. jenius On Nov 19, 7:09 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and jenius, since you are the only one here obsessed with race, why I do believe that would make you the racist. racist. On Nov 19, 7:05 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: recycling the same old same old is not change. just one more of many lies the messiah fooled the sheep with. poor little sheep, so easily tricked. so easily enticed to the dark side. there is no change here, and there never was. just lies and deceptions. e the only one here obsessdarth vadar. On Nov 19, 6:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change????????????????
mark, I repeat numbnuts: WHAT raped women??? On Nov 21, 4:48 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep lying to grand juries, impeachment, lying to the American people. yep make ya all warm and fuzzy doesn't it holly. On Nov 21, 5:40 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, What raped women? I just get all teary-eyed thinking about the good old days, ya' moron. On Nov 21, 11:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep you would love all the illegal money from china. the paid for pardons. travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women. and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs instead of bin laden. make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck? Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway? On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep just what we need. a repeat of one of the most corrupt, incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III. On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, SWEET On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote
Re: where is the change????????????????
He's either a liar or too ignorant to realize his promises wouldn't work. Either way the American people don't care, that requires a bit too much thinking for most. He looks good and can make the 3 pointer, that's all they care to know. On Nov 21, 5:51 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so what you libs are admitting is that even though barry ran on change, and promised change, he really didn't mean it? in other words he lied, eh? On Nov 21, 4:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change????????????????
I get it, but where is this prosperous leadership? I've seen none. Maybe you meant proposterous... now that I've seen. On Nov 21, 10:08 pm, VT Sean Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardoning Libby is Ok though Borrowing 100's of Billions from Chine is OK though Secret Black Op Torture sites is Ok though The Office of Special Plans that shrubbed the Iraq intelligence which facilitated the unprovoked war of aggression in Iraq is OK though Outing a CIA operative that rolled up the entire WMD spy network in Iran was OK though Allowing the rapes of thousands of woman and girls in Sudan was Ok though Not Responding to Katrina for 3 days was OK though Ignoring the post 'victory' chaos in Iraq that lead to losing the peace was Ok though Illegally spying on US citizens was OK though Ignoring the economic collapse of the economy is OK though. Only an idiot would choose this type of incompetent leadership over prosperous leadership. On Nov 21, 9:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep you would love all the illegal money from china. the paid for pardons. travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women. and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs instead of bin laden. make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck? Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway? On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep just what we need. a repeat of one of the most corrupt, incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III. On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, SWEET On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide
Re: where is the change????????????????
You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59�pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32�pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change????????????????
so what you libs are admitting is that even though barry ran on change, and promised change, he really didn't mean it? in other words he lied, eh? On Nov 21, 4:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change????????????????
nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change????????????????
mark, SWEET On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change????????????????
mark, Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck? Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway? On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep just what we need. a repeat of one of the most corrupt, incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III. On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, SWEET On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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yep you would love all the illegal money from china. the paid for pardons. travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women. and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs instead of bin laden. make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck? Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway? On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep just what we need. a repeat of one of the most corrupt, incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III. On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, SWEET On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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mark, What raped women? I just get all teary-eyed thinking about the good old days, ya' moron. On Nov 21, 11:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep you would love all the illegal money from china. the paid for pardons. travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women. and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs instead of bin laden. make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck? Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway? On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep just what we need. a repeat of one of the most corrupt, incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III. On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, SWEET On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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yep lying to grand juries, impeachment, lying to the American people. yep make ya all warm and fuzzy doesn't it holly. On Nov 21, 5:40 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, What raped women? I just get all teary-eyed thinking about the good old days, ya' moron. On Nov 21, 11:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep you would love all the illegal money from china. the paid for pardons. travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women. and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs instead of bin laden. make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck? Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway? On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep just what we need. a repeat of one of the most corrupt, incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III. On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, SWEET On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS, ETC, AT AL. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:30 PM, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Pardoning Libby is Ok though Borrowing 100's of Billions from Chine is OK though Secret Black Op Torture sites is Ok though The Office of Special Plans that shrubbed the Iraq intelligence which facilitated the unprovoked war of aggression in Iraq is OK though Outing a CIA operative that rolled up the entire WMD spy network in Iran was OK though Allowing the rapes of thousands of woman and girls in Sudan was Ok though Not Responding to Katrina for 3 days was OK though Ignoring the post 'victory' chaos in Iraq that lead to losing the peace was Ok though Illegally spying on US citizens was OK though Ignoring the economic collapse of the economy is OK though. Only an idiot would choose this type of incompetent leadership over prosperous leadership. On Nov 21, 9:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep you would love all the illegal money from china. the paid for pardons. travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women. and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs instead of bin laden. make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck? Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway? On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep just what we need. a repeat of one of the most corrupt, incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III. On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, SWEET On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing more than clinton part III. nothing new here. On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to think, that I mean. On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina? On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may become part of the Obama administration? On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other
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now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39�am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. �still do not see any change. �what a farce. �the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Obama is already stale and he hasn't even been sworn into office! lol On Nov 20, 8:29�am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same old spin. �he promised change. �his whole new testament was based on change. �this is turning into nothing more than a third clinton term. �no change. �just more lies and deceptions. �the sheep have been fleeced. On Nov 20, 8:45 am, margareth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you really have preferred Paulsen, Cheney Haliburton, and Palin? Of course he would be expected to find his executive from the Democratic party, particularly those who have supported him through the campaign. On Nov 20, 7:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. �still do not see any change. �what a farce. �the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Governor Janet Napolitano-AZ- Homeland Security. On Nov 20, 9:11�am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Something most will not remember - Janet Napolitiano represented Anita Hill. CW - Original Message - From: rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PoliticalForum PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:55 Subject: Re: where is the change Governor Janet Napolitano-AZ- Homeland Security. On Nov 20, 9:11�am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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You need someone who understands the ways things are done to make the change. The Clinton Administration accomplished a positive change for the US economy after the first Bush. With the mess the second Bush is now leaving, this is not the time to have neophytes trying to find where the rest rooms are. This is about Competence, Intelligence, Accountability and and understanding how to get things done, and done CORRECTLY! On Nov 18, 12:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help. On Nov 20, 3:11�pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rigs, Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me. On Nov 20, 9:11�am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a female border governor who has swamped this country with impoverished drug-running Mexicans! On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even know it. On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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and jenius, since you are the only one here obsessed with race, why I do believe that would make you the racist. racist. On Nov 19, 7:05 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: recycling the same old same old is not change. just one more of many lies the messiah fooled the sheep with. poor little sheep, so easily tricked. so easily enticed to the dark side. there is no change here, and there never was. just lies and deceptions. e the only one here obsessdarth vadar. On Nov 19, 6:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Who was the only organization that warned of the economic meltdown BEFORE it happend and warned Americans about Obama's intentions BEFORE the elections. One week until the US elections 28 October 2008 With only one week remaining before Election Day, the opinion polls indicate that Barack Obama and the Democratic Party will likely register a substantial victory. In addition to gaining control of the White House, the Democrats stand to increase their majorities in both houses of Congress, possibly obtaining the 60-40 margin in the Senate required to end filibusters and force a floor vote on legislative proposals. Predictably, Democratic leaders are already issuing excuses as to why a lopsided Democratic victory should not be interpreted as a mandate for a significant change of policy in an Obama administration, and why no such change will be forthcoming. As the New York Times observed in a front-page article Sunday on the implications of a sizeable Democratic victory, popular expectations of immediate action on health care, home foreclosures, jobs and other social issues “could be difficult to meet even with enhanced numbers in the Senate as well as the House.” The Times noted: “The nature of the Democratic majority, expanded partly through the election of centrists and even conservatives, would also temper Democratic zeal to pursue an overly ideological agenda, Democrats said.” The newspaper quoted a series of Democratic Party leaders warning against “overreaching” and urging a cautious legislative agenda. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland told the Times, “We are going to get new members with a clear understanding that the reason they won is appealing to independents and disaffected Republicans, and they are going to want to continue to do that.” The most significant feature of the elections is that the entire campaign has been overtaken by an economic crisis which neither party anticipated. The response of both candidates, apart from some campaign theatrics, has been identical. For all the mud-slinging, once issues critical to the class interests of the American ruling elite emerged, Obama and his Republican opponent John McCain joined in endorsing, over popular opposition, a multi-trillion-dollar bailout of the banks. What will an Obama victory mean? It will not be long before the campaign platitudes about “hope” and “change” and the “fierce urgency of now” will be exposed for what they are. The American people will confront an administration committed to relentlessly pursuing the interests of American imperialism at home and abroad. It will become apparent that the chief difference between Obama and Bush is not the right-wing character of their policies, but the skill with which these policies are carried out. Even as the final stretch of the campaign unfolds, and in the midst of an economic crisis widely acknowledged to be the deepest since the Great Depression, American imperialism continues its bloody rampage, with missile strikes in Afghanistan and Pakistan and incursions into Syria. The entire election is an expression of the bankruptcy of the existing political set-up and the failure of American democracy. Once again, as in 2002, 2004 and 2006, the massive popular opposition to the militaristic and anti-democratic policies of the Bush administration can find no genuine expression within the framework of the two-party system, and the basic policies of war and social reaction will continue regardless of the outcome of an election. For all of Obama’s demagogy about “bringing the country together” and uniting rich and poor, it will rapidly be shown that he, no less than Bush, is a political representative of the financial aristocracy. The fundamental lesson that must be drawn is this: The American working class confronts the necessity of breaking free of the Democratic Party and the entire framework of capitalist politics. The only alternative to growing social misery and ever more violent eruptions of militarism is the development of an independent political movement of the working class in opposition to the existing economic and political order and based on a program for genuine democracy and social equality—that is, a socialist program. The Socialist Equality Party has intervened in the elections, running Jerry White for president and Bill Van Auken for vice president, for one essential purpose: to clarify the fundamental class issues and lay the basis for the political struggles of the working class that will develop in the aftermath of the vote. Barry Grey On Nov 19, 9:45 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Changed the White House occupants from Republicans to Democrats, did the same for much of Congress. i LIKE that kind of change. Now did you, and many others of your party, criticize Obama for what you termed lack of experience or did you not? Yes or no. On Nov 18, 3:38 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come on holly. all the fool has done
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you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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recycling the same old same old is not change. just one more of many lies the messiah fooled the sheep with. poor little sheep, so easily tricked. so easily enticed to the dark side. there is no change here, and there never was. just lies and deceptions. darth vadar. On Nov 19, 6:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are relieved to lose this one. On Nov 19, 5:08�am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless wars. jenius On Nov 18, 3:30�pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. �sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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[Q] - “These are people who believe in this stuff more than Barack himself does,” said a Democrat close to Obama’s campaign. “These guys didn’t put together a campaign in order to turn the government over to the Clintons.” - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15703.html On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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mark, I thought you WANTED people with experience in the administration? Were you not alwayas bitching and moaning about President_Elect Obama's lack of experience? Jz, just no pleasing some people. On Nov 18, 2:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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mark, Changed the White House occupants from Republicans to Democrats, did the same for much of Congress. i LIKE that kind of change. Now did you, and many others of your party, criticize Obama for what you termed lack of experience or did you not? Yes or no. On Nov 18, 3:38 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come on holly. all the fool has done for over a year is talk about change. so where is the change? On Nov 18, 4:31 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, I thought you WANTED people with experience in the administration? Were you not alwayas bitching and moaning about President_Elect Obama's lack of experience? Jz, just no pleasing some people. On Nov 18, 2:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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all the fool is doing is puking up the same old trash. where is the change? On Nov 18, 5:45 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Changed the White House occupants from Republicans to Democrats, did the same for much of Congress. i LIKE that kind of change. Now did you, and many others of your party, criticize Obama for what you termed lack of experience or did you not? Yes or no. On Nov 18, 3:38 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come on holly. all the fool has done for over a year is talk about change. so where is the change? On Nov 18, 4:31 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, I thought you WANTED people with experience in the administration? Were you not alwayas bitching and moaning about President_Elect Obama's lack of experience? Jz, just no pleasing some people. On Nov 18, 2:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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mark, I already explained it to you. Will you let the guy at LEAST get sworn in and move into the fucking WH before you start to bitch and moan and whine? On Nov 18, 4:49 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all the fool is doing is puking up the same old trash. where is the change? On Nov 18, 5:45 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, Changed the White House occupants from Republicans to Democrats, did the same for much of Congress. i LIKE that kind of change. Now did you, and many others of your party, criticize Obama for what you termed lack of experience or did you not? Yes or no. On Nov 18, 3:38 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come on holly. all the fool has done for over a year is talk about change. so where is the change? On Nov 18, 4:31 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark, I thought you WANTED people with experience in the administration? Were you not alwayas bitching and moaning about President_Elect Obama's lack of experience? Jz, just no pleasing some people. On Nov 18, 2:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Why waste time training new ones to the System? There is probably a revenge factor at work, as well, for the party once scorned. Time to scorn the Republicans and rub a few noses. On Nov 18, 2:30�pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. �sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Kind of reminds me of post-divorce choices: her friends, his friends. lol On Nov 18, 2:30�pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. �sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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He's reading Lincoln and Roosevelt- two who presided over the bloodiest chapters in our history. Maybe this is no longer Morning in America but High Noon. On Nov 18, 2:30�pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37 of them worked for clinton. �sure doesn't look like change to me. looks like the same old same old. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: where is the change? Obama transition members have Fannie ties
Rev god damn america as chaplain of the senate? On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ayers for Sec'y of Defense? On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:28 AM, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: President-elect Barack Obama's transition team leaders for the State Department are both Clinton-era department officials with links to the troubled mortgage giant Fannie Mae. Tom Donilon, a lawyer who was one of President Bill Clinton's State Department spokesmen and its chief of staff, was a top lobbyist for Fannie Mae from 1999 to 2005. Obama's other State Department team leader, Wendy Sherman, was president and CEO of the Fannie Mae Foundation from 1996 to 1997, between two tours at the State Department – one as a legislative liaison for Secretary Warren Christopher and another as counselor to Secretary Madeleine Albright. Obama transition spokesman Tom Vietor declined comment on the Fannie Mae connection. -- *~@):~{ -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---