Re: where is the change part 2

2008-12-05 Thread Travis
Mark:  I would rather have the clintonistas than the Saul Alinski crowd.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:08 PM, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 so all the messiah keep doing is recycling the same old clinton
 people.  one after another after another after another and on and on.
 all we heard for a year was change change change.  no change here,
 just more of the same old same old regurgitated clinton puke.  more
 lies from the savior.
 



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Re: where is the change part 2

2008-12-04 Thread Hollywood

mark,

Ok, boo-fucking-hoo.

On Dec 4, 5:08 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so all the messiah keep doing is recycling the same old clinton
 people.  one after another after another after another and on and on.
 all we heard for a year was change change change.  no change here,
 just more of the same old same old regurgitated clinton puke.  more
 lies from the savior.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-30 Thread jenius

ha ha ha very funny. tell that to my black husband. jenius

On Nov 19, 7:09 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 and jenius, since you are the only one here obsessed with race, why I
 do believe that would make you the racist.  racist.

 On Nov 19, 7:05 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  recycling the same old same old is not change.  just one more of many
  lies the messiah fooled the sheep with.  poor little sheep, so easily
  tricked.  so easily enticed to the dark side.
  there is no change here, and there never was.  just lies and
  deceptions.
  e the only one here obsessdarth vadar.

  On Nov 19, 6:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
   Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
   left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
   wars. jenius

   On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37
of them worked for clinton.  sure doesn't look like change to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-24 Thread Hollywood

mark,

I repeat numbnuts: WHAT raped women???

On Nov 21, 4:48 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yep lying to grand juries, impeachment, lying to the American people.
 yep make ya all warm and fuzzy doesn't it holly.

 On Nov 21, 5:40 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  mark,

  What raped women?
  I just get all teary-eyed thinking about the good old days, ya' moron.

  On Nov 21, 11:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   yep you would love all the illegal money from china.  the paid for
   pardons.  travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women.
   and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs
   instead of bin laden.  make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly

   On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mark,

Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck?
Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway?

On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yep just what we need.  a repeat of one of the most corrupt,
 incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III.

 On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  mark,

  SWEET

  On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

   On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rigs,

Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. 
has
ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for 
the
nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or 
wish to
think, that I mean.

On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
 responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

 On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rigs,

  Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the 
  Gov. of a
  particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat 
  that may
  become part of the Obama administration?

  On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local 
   officials can help.

   On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rigs,

Wow, and all this time I thought it was the 
responsibility of the
Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. 
Silly me.

On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And a female border governor who has swamped this 
 country with
 impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

 On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. 
  still do not see any
  change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced 
  and don't even
  know it.

  On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:

   Anyone America elected this election is bound to 
   fail. Republicans are
   relieved to lose this one.

   On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:

you sound like another stinking racist. give 
up. your guy lost and the
Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up 
the huge mess Bushy has
left us. bring on health care for all, and the 
end to stupid endless
wars. jenius

On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-24 Thread Kamakazee

He's either a liar or too ignorant to realize his promises wouldn't
work.

Either way the American people don't care, that requires a bit too
much thinking for most.  He looks good and can make the 3 pointer,
that's all they care to know.

On Nov 21, 5:51 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so what you libs are admitting is that even though barry ran on
 change, and promised change, he really didn't mean it?  in other words
 he lied, eh?

 On Nov 21, 4:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
  responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

  On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   rigs,

   Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a
   particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may
   become part of the Obama administration?

   On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help.

On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rigs,

 Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
 Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

 On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
  impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

  On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see 
   any
   change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
   know it.

   On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. 
Republicans are
relieved to lose this one.

On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy 
 lost and the
 Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess 
 Bushy has
 left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid 
 endless
 wars. jenius

 On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth 
  reich, and 37
  of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change 
  to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-24 Thread Kamakazee

I get it, but where is this prosperous leadership?  I've seen none.

Maybe you meant proposterous... now that I've seen.

On Nov 21, 10:08 pm, VT Sean Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pardoning Libby is Ok though
 Borrowing 100's of Billions from Chine is OK though
 Secret Black Op Torture sites is Ok though
 The Office of Special Plans that shrubbed the Iraq intelligence
 which facilitated the unprovoked war of aggression in Iraq is OK
 though
 Outing a CIA operative that rolled up the entire WMD spy network
 in Iran was OK though
 Allowing the rapes of thousands of woman and girls in Sudan
 was Ok though
 Not Responding to Katrina for 3 days was OK though
 Ignoring the post 'victory' chaos in Iraq that lead to losing the
 peace was Ok though
 Illegally spying on US citizens was OK though
 Ignoring the economic collapse of the economy is OK though.

 Only an idiot would choose this type of incompetent leadership
 over prosperous leadership.

 On Nov 21, 9:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  yep you would love all the illegal money from china.  the paid for
  pardons.  travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women.
  and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs
  instead of bin laden.  make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly

  On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   mark,

   Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck?
   Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway?

   On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yep just what we need.  a repeat of one of the most corrupt,
incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III.

On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mark,

 SWEET

 On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

  On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   rigs,

   Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. 
   has
   ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the
   nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
   responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or 
   wish to
   think, that I mean.

   On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rigs,

 Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the 
 Gov. of a
 particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat 
 that may
 become part of the Obama administration?

 On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials 
  can help.

  On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   rigs,

   Wow, and all this time I thought it was the 
   responsibility of the
   Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly 
   me.

   On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And a female border governor who has swamped this 
country with
impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. 
 still do not see any
 change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and 
 don't even
 know it.

 On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Anyone America elected this election is bound to 
  fail. Republicans are
  relieved to lose this one.

  On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:

   you sound like another stinking racist. give up. 
   your guy lost and the
   Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up 
   the huge mess Bushy has
   left us. bring on health care for all, and the 
   end to stupid endless
   wars. jenius

   On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:

der furher has appointed 47 people so far for 
his fourth reich, and 37
of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look 
like change to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread rigsy03

You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

On Nov 20, 7:59�pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 rigs,

 Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a
 particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may
 become part of the Obama administration?

 On Nov 20, 7:32�pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help.

  On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   rigs,

   Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
   Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

   On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any
 change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
 know it.

 On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans 
  are
  relieved to lose this one.

  On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost 
   and the
   Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess 
   Bushy has
   left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid 
   endless
   wars. jenius

   On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, 
and 37
of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread mark

so what you libs are admitting is that even though barry ran on
change, and promised change, he really didn't mean it?  in other words
he lied, eh?

On Nov 21, 4:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
 responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

 On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rigs,

  Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a
  particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may
  become part of the Obama administration?

  On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help.

   On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rigs,

Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
 impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

 On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see 
  any
  change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
  know it.

  On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. 
   Republicans are
   relieved to lose this one.

   On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost 
and the
Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess 
Bushy has
left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid 
endless
wars. jenius

On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth 
 reich, and 37
 of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to 
 me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread mark

nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 rigs,

 Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has
 ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the
 nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
 responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to
 think, that I mean.

 On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
  responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

  On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   rigs,

   Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a
   particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may
   become part of the Obama administration?

   On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help.

On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rigs,

 Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
 Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

 On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
  impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

  On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see 
   any
   change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
   know it.

   On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. 
Republicans are
relieved to lose this one.

On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy 
 lost and the
 Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess 
 Bushy has
 left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid 
 endless
 wars. jenius

 On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth 
  reich, and 37
  of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change 
  to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread Hollywood

mark,

SWEET

On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

 On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  rigs,

  Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has
  ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the
  nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
  responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to
  think, that I mean.

  On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
   responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

   On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rigs,

Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a
particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may
become part of the Obama administration?

On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help.

 On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rigs,

  Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
  Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

  On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
   impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

   On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not 
see any
change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
know it.

On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. 
 Republicans are
 relieved to lose this one.

 On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy 
  lost and the
  Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge 
  mess Bushy has
  left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to 
  stupid endless
  wars. jenius

  On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth 
   reich, and 37
   of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change 
   to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread Hollywood

mark,

Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck?
Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway?

On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yep just what we need.  a repeat of one of the most corrupt,
 incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III.

 On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  mark,

  SWEET

  On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

   On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rigs,

Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has
ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the
nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to
think, that I mean.

On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
 responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

 On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rigs,

  Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. of a
  particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may
  become part of the Obama administration?

  On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can 
   help.

   On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rigs,

Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of 
the
Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
 impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

 On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do 
  not see any
  change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't 
  even
  know it.

  On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. 
   Republicans are
   relieved to lose this one.

   On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your 
guy lost and the
Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge 
mess Bushy has
left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to 
stupid endless
wars. jenius

On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread mark

yep you would love all the illegal money from china.  the paid for
pardons.  travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women.
and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs
instead of bin laden.  make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly

On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 mark,

 Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck?
 Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway?

 On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  yep just what we need.  a repeat of one of the most corrupt,
  incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III.

  On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   mark,

   SWEET

   On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rigs,

 Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has
 ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the
 nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
 responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish to
 think, that I mean.

 On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
  responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

  On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   rigs,

   Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. 
   of a
   particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that may
   become part of the Obama administration?

   On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can 
help.

On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rigs,

 Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of 
 the
 Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

 On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  And a female border governor who has swamped this country 
  with
  impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

  On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do 
   not see any
   change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and 
   don't even
   know it.

   On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. 
Republicans are
relieved to lose this one.

On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your 
 guy lost and the
 Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the 
 huge mess Bushy has
 left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to 
 stupid endless
 wars. jenius

 On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  fourth reich, and 37
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread Hollywood

mark,

What raped women?
I just get all teary-eyed thinking about the good old days, ya' moron.

On Nov 21, 11:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yep you would love all the illegal money from china.  the paid for
 pardons.  travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women.
 and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs
 instead of bin laden.  make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly

 On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  mark,

  Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck?
  Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway?

  On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   yep just what we need.  a repeat of one of the most corrupt,
   incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III.

   On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mark,

SWEET

On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

 On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rigs,

  Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has
  ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the
  nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
  responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish 
  to
  think, that I mean.

  On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
   responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

   On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rigs,

Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. 
of a
particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that 
may
become part of the Obama administration?

On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials 
 can help.

 On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rigs,

  Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility 
  of the
  Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

  On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   And a female border governor who has swamped this country 
   with
   impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

   On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still 
do not see any
change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and 
don't even
know it.

On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone America elected this election is bound to 
 fail. Republicans are
 relieved to lose this one.

 On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  you sound like another stinking racist. give up. 
  your guy lost and the
  Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the 
  huge mess Bushy has
  left us. bring on health care for all, and the end 
  to stupid endless
  wars. jenius

  On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his 
   fourth reich, and 37
   of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look 
   like change to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread mark

yep lying to grand juries, impeachment, lying to the American people.
yep make ya all warm and fuzzy doesn't it holly.

On Nov 21, 5:40 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 mark,

 What raped women?
 I just get all teary-eyed thinking about the good old days, ya' moron.

 On Nov 21, 11:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  yep you would love all the illegal money from china.  the paid for
  pardons.  travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women.
  and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs
  instead of bin laden.  make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly

  On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   mark,

   Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck?
   Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway?

   On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yep just what we need.  a repeat of one of the most corrupt,
incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III.

On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mark,

 SWEET

 On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

  On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   rigs,

   Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. 
   has
   ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the
   nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
   responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or 
   wish to
   think, that I mean.

   On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rigs,

 Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the 
 Gov. of a
 particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat 
 that may
 become part of the Obama administration?

 On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials 
  can help.

  On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   rigs,

   Wow, and all this time I thought it was the 
   responsibility of the
   Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly 
   me.

   On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And a female border governor who has swamped this 
country with
impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. 
 still do not see any
 change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and 
 don't even
 know it.

 On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Anyone America elected this election is bound to 
  fail. Republicans are
  relieved to lose this one.

  On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:

   you sound like another stinking racist. give up. 
   your guy lost and the
   Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up 
   the huge mess Bushy has
   left us. bring on health care for all, and the 
   end to stupid endless
   wars. jenius

   On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:

der furher has appointed 47 people so far for 
his fourth reich, and 37
of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look 
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread Travis
SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS, ETC, AT AL.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:30 PM, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37
 of them worked for clinton.  sure doesn't look like change to me.
 looks like the same old same old.
 



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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-21 Thread VT Sean Lewis

Pardoning Libby is Ok though
Borrowing 100's of Billions from Chine is OK though
Secret Black Op Torture sites is Ok though
The Office of Special Plans that shrubbed the Iraq intelligence
which facilitated the unprovoked war of aggression in Iraq is OK
though
Outing a CIA operative that rolled up the entire WMD spy network
in Iran was OK though
Allowing the rapes of thousands of woman and girls in Sudan
was Ok though
Not Responding to Katrina for 3 days was OK though
Ignoring the post 'victory' chaos in Iraq that lead to losing the
peace was Ok though
Illegally spying on US citizens was OK though
Ignoring the economic collapse of the economy is OK though.

Only an idiot would choose this type of incompetent leadership
over prosperous leadership.

On Nov 21, 9:33 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yep you would love all the illegal money from china.  the paid for
 pardons.  travelgate. vince foster. whitewater. all the raped women.
 and let us not forget the 3000 murdered due to his getting blow jobs
 instead of bin laden.  make ya nostalgic doesn't it holly

 On Nov 21, 11:32 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  mark,

  Yeah, didn't that peace and prosperity just suck?
  Who the fuck need a budget surplus anyway?

  On Nov 21, 10:22 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   yep just what we need.  a repeat of one of the most corrupt,
   incompetent presidencies in our history, clinton part III.

   On Nov 21, 10:36 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mark,

SWEET

On Nov 21, 9:06 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 nothing more than clinton part III.  nothing new here.

 On Nov 21, 9:43 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rigs,

  Which is attitude is it your trying to sell here? That the Gov. has
  ALL the responsibility and is thus personally responsible for the
  nuber of illegals in a given region? Or that they have NO
  responsibility? Look at what I post and not what you think, or wish 
  to
  think, that I mean.

  On Nov 21, 3:37 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You mean to tell me governors and local officials have no
   responsibilty in federal matters? Remember Katrina?

   On Nov 20, 7:59 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rigs,

Yes, I know I am. So why the attempt to shift blame on the Gov. 
of a
particular state? Perhaps because that Gov. is a Democrat that 
may
become part of the Obama administration?

On Nov 20, 7:32 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials 
 can help.

 On Nov 20, 3:11 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rigs,

  Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility 
  of the
  Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

  On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   And a female border governor who has swamped this country 
   with
   impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

   On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still 
do not see any
change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and 
don't even
know it.

On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone America elected this election is bound to 
 fail. Republicans are
 relieved to lose this one.

 On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  you sound like another stinking racist. give up. 
  your guy lost and the
  Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the 
  huge mess Bushy has
  left us. bring on health care for all, and the end 
  to stupid endless
  wars. jenius

  On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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   fourth reich, and 37
   of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look 
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-20 Thread mark

now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator.  still do not see any
change.  what a farce.  the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
know it.

On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
 relieved to lose this one.

 On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
  Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
  left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
  wars. jenius

  On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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   of them worked for clinton. sure doesn't look like change to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-20 Thread rigsy03

And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

On Nov 20, 6:39�am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. �still do not see any
 change. �what a farce. �the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
 know it.

 On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
  relieved to lose this one.

  On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
   Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
   left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
   wars. jenius

   On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-20 Thread rigsy03

Obama is already stale and he hasn't even been sworn into office! lol

On Nov 20, 8:29�am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 same old spin. �he promised change. �his whole new testament was based
 on change. �this is turning into nothing more than a third clinton
 term. �no change. �just more lies and deceptions. �the sheep have been
 fleeced.

 On Nov 20, 8:45 am, margareth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Would you really have preferred Paulsen, Cheney Haliburton, and Palin?
  Of course he would be expected to find his executive from the
  Democratic party, particularly those who have supported him through
  the campaign.

  On Nov 20, 7:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. �still do not see any
   change. �what a farce. �the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
   know it.

   On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
relieved to lose this one.

On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
 Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
 left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
 wars. jenius

 On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  37
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-20 Thread rigsy03

Governor Janet Napolitano-AZ- Homeland Security.

On Nov 20, 9:11�am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
 impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

 On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any
  change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
  know it.

  On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
   relieved to lose this one.

   On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
wars. jenius

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-20 Thread Cold Water

Something most will not remember - Janet Napolitiano represented Anita Hill.

CW

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Governor Janet Napolitano-AZ- Homeland Security.

On Nov 20, 9:11�am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
 impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

 On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any
  change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
  know it.

  On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
   relieved to lose this one.

   On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and 
the
Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy 
has
left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
wars. jenius

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-20 Thread Hollywood

rigs,

Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

On Nov 20, 9:11 am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
 impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

 On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any
  change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
  know it.

  On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
   relieved to lose this one.

   On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
wars. jenius

On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-20 Thread VT Sean Lewis

You need someone who understands the ways things are done
to make the change.

The Clinton Administration accomplished a positive change for
the US economy after the first Bush.

With the mess the second Bush is now leaving, this is not the
time to have neophytes trying to find where the rest rooms are.

This is about Competence, Intelligence, Accountability and
and understanding how to get things done, and done CORRECTLY!

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-20 Thread rigsy03

You're right, Hollywood. However, state and local officials can help.

On Nov 20, 3:11�pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 rigs,

 Wow, and all this time I thought it was the responsibility of the
 Federal Govt. to secure our international borders. Silly me.

 On Nov 20, 9:11�am, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  And a female border governor who has swamped this country with
  impoverished drug-running Mexicans!

  On Nov 20, 6:39 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   now he adds a regurgitated washed up ex senator. still do not see any
   change. what a farce. the sheep have been fleeced and don't even
   know it.

   On Nov 19, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
relieved to lose this one.

On Nov 19, 5:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
 Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
 left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
 wars. jenius

 On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-19 Thread mark

and jenius, since you are the only one here obsessed with race, why I
do believe that would make you the racist.  racist.

On Nov 19, 7:05 am, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 recycling the same old same old is not change.  just one more of many
 lies the messiah fooled the sheep with.  poor little sheep, so easily
 tricked.  so easily enticed to the dark side.
 there is no change here, and there never was.  just lies and
 deceptions.
 e the only one here obsessdarth vadar.

 On Nov 19, 6:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
  Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
  left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
  wars. jenius

  On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37
   of them worked for clinton.  sure doesn't look like change to me.
   looks like the same old same old.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-19 Thread Lone Wolf

Who was the only organization that warned of the economic meltdown
BEFORE it happend and warned Americans about Obama's intentions BEFORE
the elections.

One week until the US elections

28 October 2008
With only one week remaining before Election Day, the opinion polls
indicate that Barack Obama and the Democratic Party will likely
register a substantial victory. In addition to gaining control of the
White House, the Democrats stand to increase their majorities in both
houses of Congress, possibly obtaining the 60-40 margin in the Senate
required to end filibusters and force a floor vote on legislative
proposals.

Predictably, Democratic leaders are already issuing excuses as to why
a lopsided Democratic victory should not be interpreted as a mandate
for a significant change of policy in an Obama administration, and why
no such change will be forthcoming.

As the New York Times observed in a front-page article Sunday on the
implications of a sizeable Democratic victory, popular expectations of
immediate action on health care, home foreclosures, jobs and other
social issues “could be difficult to meet even with enhanced numbers
in the Senate as well as the House.”

The Times noted: “The nature of the Democratic majority, expanded
partly through the election of centrists and even conservatives, would
also temper Democratic zeal to pursue an overly ideological agenda,
Democrats said.”

The newspaper quoted a series of Democratic Party leaders warning
against “overreaching” and urging a cautious legislative agenda. House
Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland told the Times, “We are going
to get new members with a clear understanding that the reason they won
is appealing to independents and disaffected Republicans, and they are
going to want to continue to do that.”

The most significant feature of the elections is that the entire
campaign has been overtaken by an economic crisis which neither party
anticipated. The response of both candidates, apart from some campaign
theatrics, has been identical. For all the mud-slinging, once issues
critical to the class interests of the American ruling elite emerged,
Obama and his Republican opponent John McCain joined in endorsing,
over popular opposition, a multi-trillion-dollar bailout of the banks.

What will an Obama victory mean? It will not be long before the
campaign platitudes about “hope” and “change” and the “fierce urgency
of now” will be exposed for what they are. The American people will
confront an administration committed to relentlessly pursuing the
interests of American imperialism at home and abroad. It will become
apparent that the chief difference between Obama and Bush is not the
right-wing character of their policies, but the skill with which these
policies are carried out.

Even as the final stretch of the campaign unfolds, and in the midst of
an economic crisis widely acknowledged to be the deepest since the
Great Depression, American imperialism continues its bloody rampage,
with missile strikes in Afghanistan and Pakistan and incursions into
Syria. The entire election is an expression of the bankruptcy of the
existing political set-up and the failure of American democracy.

Once again, as in 2002, 2004 and 2006, the massive popular opposition
to the militaristic and anti-democratic policies of the Bush
administration can find no genuine expression within the framework of
the two-party system, and the basic policies of war and social
reaction will continue regardless of the outcome of an election.

For all of Obama’s demagogy about “bringing the country together” and
uniting rich and poor, it will rapidly be shown that he, no less than
Bush, is a political representative of the financial aristocracy.

The fundamental lesson that must be drawn is this: The American
working class confronts the necessity of breaking free of the
Democratic Party and the entire framework of capitalist politics. The
only alternative to growing social misery and ever more violent
eruptions of militarism is the development of an independent political
movement of the working class in opposition to the existing economic
and political order and based on a program for genuine democracy and
social equality—that is, a socialist program.

The Socialist Equality Party has intervened in the elections, running
Jerry White for president and Bill Van Auken for vice president, for
one essential purpose: to clarify the fundamental class issues and lay
the basis for the political struggles of the working class that will
develop in the aftermath of the vote.

Barry Grey

On Nov 19, 9:45 am, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 mark,

 Changed the White House occupants from Republicans to Democrats, did
 the same for much of Congress. i LIKE that kind of change.

 Now did you, and many others of your party, criticize Obama for what
 you termed lack of experience or did you not? Yes or no.

 On Nov 18, 3:38 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  come on holly.  all the fool has done 

Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-19 Thread jenius

you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
wars. jenius

On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37
 of them worked for clinton.  sure doesn't look like change to me.
 looks like the same old same old.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-19 Thread mark

recycling the same old same old is not change.  just one more of many
lies the messiah fooled the sheep with.  poor little sheep, so easily
tricked.  so easily enticed to the dark side.
there is no change here, and there never was.  just lies and
deceptions.
darth vadar.

On Nov 19, 6:08 am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
 Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
 left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
 wars. jenius

 On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37
  of them worked for clinton.  sure doesn't look like change to me.
  looks like the same old same old.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-19 Thread rigsy03

Anyone America elected this election is bound to fail. Republicans are
relieved to lose this one.

On Nov 19, 5:08�am, jenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 you sound like another stinking racist. give up. your guy lost and the
 Dems are in charge again. its time to clean up the huge mess Bushy has
 left us. bring on health care for all, and the end to stupid endless
 wars. jenius

 On Nov 18, 3:30�pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-18 Thread d.b.baker

[Q] - “These are people who believe in this stuff more than Barack
himself does,” said a Democrat close to Obama’s campaign. “These guys
didn’t put together a campaign in order to turn the government over to
the Clintons.” -
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15703.html

On Nov 18, 3:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-18 Thread Hollywood

mark,

I thought you WANTED people with experience in the administration?
Were you not alwayas bitching and moaning about President_Elect
Obama's lack of experience? Jz, just no pleasing some people.

On Nov 18, 2:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-18 Thread Hollywood

mark,

Changed the White House occupants from Republicans to Democrats, did
the same for much of Congress. i LIKE that kind of change.

Now did you, and many others of your party, criticize Obama for what
you termed lack of experience or did you not? Yes or no.

On Nov 18, 3:38 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 come on holly.  all the fool has done for over a year is talk about
 change.  so where is the change?

 On Nov 18, 4:31 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  mark,

  I thought you WANTED people with experience in the administration?
  Were you not alwayas bitching and moaning about President_Elect
  Obama's lack of experience? Jz, just no pleasing some people.

  On Nov 18, 2:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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   of them worked for clinton.  sure doesn't look like change to me.
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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-18 Thread mark

all the fool is doing is puking up the same old trash.  where is the
change?

On Nov 18, 5:45 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 mark,

 Changed the White House occupants from Republicans to Democrats, did
 the same for much of Congress. i LIKE that kind of change.

 Now did you, and many others of your party, criticize Obama for what
 you termed lack of experience or did you not? Yes or no.

 On Nov 18, 3:38 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  come on holly.  all the fool has done for over a year is talk about
  change.  so where is the change?

  On Nov 18, 4:31 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   mark,

   I thought you WANTED people with experience in the administration?
   Were you not alwayas bitching and moaning about President_Elect
   Obama's lack of experience? Jz, just no pleasing some people.

   On Nov 18, 2:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

der furher has appointed 47 people so far for his fourth reich, and 37
of them worked for clinton.  sure doesn't look like change to me.
looks like the same old same old.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-18 Thread Hollywood

mark,

I already explained it to you.
Will you let the guy at LEAST get sworn in and move into the fucking
WH before you start to bitch and moan and whine?

On Nov 18, 4:49 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 all the fool is doing is puking up the same old trash.  where is the
 change?

 On Nov 18, 5:45 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  mark,

  Changed the White House occupants from Republicans to Democrats, did
  the same for much of Congress. i LIKE that kind of change.

  Now did you, and many others of your party, criticize Obama for what
  you termed lack of experience or did you not? Yes or no.

  On Nov 18, 3:38 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   come on holly.  all the fool has done for over a year is talk about
   change.  so where is the change?

   On Nov 18, 4:31 pm, Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mark,

I thought you WANTED people with experience in the administration?
Were you not alwayas bitching and moaning about President_Elect
Obama's lack of experience? Jz, just no pleasing some people.

On Nov 18, 2:30 pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-18 Thread rigsy03

Why waste time training new ones to the System? There is probably a
revenge factor at work, as well, for the party once scorned. Time to
scorn the Republicans and rub a few noses.

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-18 Thread rigsy03

Kind of reminds me of post-divorce choices: her friends, his friends.
lol

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Re: where is the change????????????????

2008-11-18 Thread rigsy03

He's reading Lincoln and Roosevelt- two who presided over the
bloodiest chapters in our history. Maybe this is no longer Morning in
America but High Noon.

On Nov 18, 2:30�pm, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: where is the change? Obama transition members have Fannie ties

2008-11-14 Thread Travis
Rev god damn america as chaplain of the senate?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ayers for Sec'y of Defense?


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:28 AM, mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 President-elect Barack Obama's transition team leaders for the State
 Department are both Clinton-era department officials with links to the
 troubled mortgage giant Fannie Mae.

 Tom Donilon, a lawyer who was one of President Bill Clinton's State
 Department spokesmen and its chief of staff, was a top lobbyist for
 Fannie Mae from 1999 to 2005.

 Obama's other State Department team leader, Wendy Sherman, was
 president and CEO of the Fannie Mae Foundation from 1996 to 1997,
 between two tours at the State Department – one as a legislative
 liaison for Secretary Warren Christopher and another as counselor to
 Secretary Madeleine Albright.

 Obama transition spokesman Tom Vietor declined comment on the Fannie
 Mae connection.
 



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