Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4
David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... You can do a test build on a gcc4 arch with -Wdeclaration-after-statement. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4
On Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:42 CEST, David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... Maybe vax is not the best gcc2 arch to test, since gperf doesn't seem to build before even trying to build wget: === Building for gperf-3.0.4 cd lib; make all cc -O2 -pipe -I. -c ./getopt.c cc -O2 -pipe -I. -c ./getopt1.c c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -c ./getline.cc c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -c ./hash.cc rm -f libgp.a ar rc libgp.a getopt.o getopt1.o getline.o hash.o ranlib libgp.a cd src; make all c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./version.cc c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./positions.cc c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./options.cc c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./keyword.cc c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./keyword-list.cc c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./input.cc In file included from options.h:31, from ./input.cc:28: positions.h:144: Internal compiler error. positions.h:144: Please submit a full bug report. positions.h:144: See URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html for instructions. cpp0: output pipe has been closed *** Error code 1 Sebastian Cheers! David Index: Makefile === RCS file: /cvs/ports/net/wget/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.55 diff -u -p -r1.55 Makefile --- Makefile 19 Nov 2010 22:31:39 - 1.55 +++ Makefile 6 Oct 2011 08:25:40 - @@ -2,8 +2,7 @@ COMMENT =retrieve files from the web via HTTP, HTTPS and FTP -DISTNAME = wget-1.12 -REVISION = 1 +DISTNAME = wget-1.13.4 CATEGORIES = net HOMEPAGE = http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/ @@ -14,7 +13,7 @@ PERMIT_PACKAGE_FTP =Yes PERMIT_DISTFILES_CDROM =Yes PERMIT_DISTFILES_FTP = Yes -WANTLIB =c crypto ssl idn +WANTLIB =c crypto idn ssl z LIB_DEPENDS =devel/libidn MASTER_SITES = ${MASTER_SITE_GNU:=wget/} @@ -24,6 +23,7 @@ MODULES = devel/gettext CONFIGURE_STYLE =gnu CONFIGURE_ENV += CPPFLAGS=-I${LOCALBASE}/include \ LDFLAGS=-L${LOCALBASE}/lib +CONFIGURE_ARGS +=--with-ssl=openssl USE_GROFF = Yes pre-build: Index: distinfo === RCS file: /cvs/ports/net/wget/distinfo,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -p -r1.10 distinfo --- distinfo 15 Oct 2009 08:27:04 - 1.10 +++ distinfo 6 Oct 2011 08:25:40 - @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -MD5 (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = FBRhucBORU3IkzydHyq/gw== -RMD160 (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = Iy0Kpvs2cxwWLStzdKqatZ5nG30= -SHA1 (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = UNTtJEHmfbeqUGHYpN3kHuDpQkg= -SHA256 (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = dXjtCXThLKpxEgWB+jli7lpp9xdd3D1qbbDs3LpltXI= -SIZE (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = 2464747 +MD5 (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = HfSJl2oRi5y+GwNQKtv8Jw== +RMD160 (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = YQYr/Uwo+Fox9ZnpD4P6hLoccdA= +SHA1 (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = 4l4bSHAm3dkCbKfSavIfBEyITSg= +SHA256 (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = JMdxC8nyIM4j2Kng9Wc7DvwcrOYttt4CObWGPsyTTc0= +SIZE (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = 2815185 Index: patches/patch-doc_Makefile_in === RCS file: /cvs/ports/net/wget/patches/patch-doc_Makefile_in,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -p -r1.4 patch-doc_Makefile_in --- patches/patch-doc_Makefile_in 15 Oct 2009 08:27:09 - 1.4 +++ patches/patch-doc_Makefile_in 6 Oct 2011 08:25:40 - @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ doc/Makefile.in.orig Tue Sep 22 18:40:11 2009 -+++ doc/Makefile.in Thu Oct 1 14:53:44 2009 -@@ -598,7 +598,7 @@ +--- doc/Makefile.in.orig Thu Oct 6 09:25:28 2011 doc/Makefile.in Thu Oct 6 09:27:11 2011 +@@ -1061,7 +1061,7 @@ manext = 1 RM = rm -f TEXI2POD = $(srcdir)/texi2pod.pl MAN = wget.$(manext) @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ SAMPLERCTEXI = sample.wgetrc.munged_for_texi_inclusion # -@@ -1067,23 +1067,9 @@ +@@ -1558,22 +1558,8 @@ install.man: $(MAN) # install sample.wgetrc install.wgetrc: $(srcdir)/sample.wgetrc @@ -29,10 +29,8 @@ -else \ - $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/sample.wgetrc $(DESTDIR)$(WGETRC); \ -fi -- +$(mkinstalldirs) $(DESTDIR)$(WGETRCDIR) +$(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/sample.wgetrc $(DESTDIR)$(WGETRCDIR) -+ + # uninstall man page uninstall.man: - $(RM) $(DESTDIR)$(mandir)/man$(manext)/$(MAN) Index: patches/patch-doc_wget_texi === RCS file: /cvs/ports/net/wget/patches/patch-doc_wget_texi,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -p -r1.3 patch-doc_wget_texi --- patches/patch-doc_wget_texi 9 Oct 2008 18:50:45 - 1.3 +++ patches/patch-doc_wget_texi 6 Oct 2011 08:25:40 - @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ $OpenBSD: patch-doc_wget_texi,v 1.3 2008/10/09 18:50:45 sthen Exp $ doc/wget.texi.orig Mon Jun 30
Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4
On 2011/10/11 09:10, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: On Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:42 CEST, David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... Maybe vax is not the best gcc2 arch to test, since gperf doesn't seem to build before even trying to build wget: The other remaining gcc2 arch are considerably harder to get tests on. bsd.port.arch.mk:GCC2_ARCHS = aviion luna88k m68k m88k mac68k mvme68k mvme88k vax === Building for gperf-3.0.4 .. c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./input.cc In file included from options.h:31, from ./input.cc:28: positions.h:144: Internal compiler error. positions.h:144: Please submit a full bug report. positions.h:144: See URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html for instructions. cpp0: output pipe has been closed *** Error code 1 You could try forcing -O0.
Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:26 AM, David Coppa dco...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Sebastian Reitenbach sebas...@l00-bugdead-prods.de wrote: On Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:42 CEST, David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... Maybe vax is not the best gcc2 arch to test, since gperf doesn't seem to build before even trying to build wget: Now I know why even the old wget-1.12 is not in snapshots/packages/vax/... So, can this update go in? I've tested it on i386, amd64 and sparc64. ciao, David
Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:00 CEST, Stuart Henderson st...@openbsd.org wrote: On 2011/10/11 09:10, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: On Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:42 CEST, David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... Maybe vax is not the best gcc2 arch to test, since gperf doesn't seem to build before even trying to build wget: The other remaining gcc2 arch are considerably harder to get tests on. bsd.port.arch.mk:GCC2_ARCHS = aviion luna88k m68k m88k mac68k mvme68k mvme88k vax === Building for gperf-3.0.4 .. c++ -O2 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./input.cc In file included from options.h:31, from ./input.cc:28: positions.h:144: Internal compiler error. positions.h:144: Please submit a full bug report. positions.h:144: See URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html for instructions. cpp0: output pipe has been closed *** Error code 1 You could try forcing -O0. even with -=0: c++ -O0 -pipe -I. -I./../lib -c ./input.cc In file included from options.h:31, from ./input.cc:28: positions.h:144: Internal compiler error. positions.h:144: Please submit a full bug report. positions.h:144: See URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html for instructions. Sebastian
Re: emulators/simh diff (Was Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4)
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, David Coppa dco...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM, David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 10:30:45AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011/10/06 02:42, David Coppa wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... http://www.openbsd.org/vax-simh.html is about all that most of us can manage in the way of gcc2 tests.. Ok, thanks. I'll go through the simh route then... In the meantime, this diff applies the interim corrections from: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/interim.html OK? Maintainer's email just bounced back... Can we just add the files to the set and overwrite the existing ones in pre-build or something? f.-
Re: emulators/simh diff (Was Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4)
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Federico Schwindt fg...@lodoss.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, David Coppa dco...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM, David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 10:30:45AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011/10/06 02:42, David Coppa wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... http://www.openbsd.org/vax-simh.html is about all that most of us can manage in the way of gcc2 tests.. Ok, thanks. I'll go through the simh route then... In the meantime, this diff applies the interim corrections from: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/interim.html OK? Maintainer's email just bounced back... Can we just add the files to the set and overwrite the existing ones in pre-build or something? I've thought about this before sending the diff... Isn't it a bit too ugly? Those files are even polluted by ^M microsoft crap. But let me know and I'll cook up another diff as per Federico's suggestions... ciao, David
Re: emulators/simh diff (Was Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4)
On 10/07/11 09:40, David Coppa wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Federico Schwindt fg...@lodoss.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, David Coppa dco...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM, David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 10:30:45AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011/10/06 02:42, David Coppa wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... http://www.openbsd.org/vax-simh.html is about all that most of us can manage in the way of gcc2 tests.. Ok, thanks. I'll go through the simh route then... In the meantime, this diff applies the interim corrections from: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/interim.html OK? Maintainer's email just bounced back... Can we just add the files to the set and overwrite the existing ones in pre-build or something? I've thought about this before sending the diff... Isn't it a bit too ugly? Those files are even polluted by ^M microsoft crap. Kill'em with sed before copying them into files/ Cheers Giovanni
Re: emulators/simh diff (Was Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4)
On 2011/10/07 09:55, Giovanni Bechis wrote: Can we just add the files to the set and overwrite the existing ones in pre-build or something? I've thought about this before sending the diff... Isn't it a bit too ugly? Those files are even polluted by ^M microsoft crap. Kill'em with sed before copying them into files/ The master site is pretty slow too, here's another option... Index: Makefile === RCS file: /cvs/ports/emulators/simh/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.69 diff -u -p -r1.69 Makefile --- Makefile20 Apr 2011 05:16:33 - 1.69 +++ Makefile7 Oct 2011 08:17:08 - @@ -3,11 +3,11 @@ COMMENT= PDP, IBM 1401, Nova and other CPUs simulator -DISTNAME= simh-3.8.1 -REVISION= 3 +PKGNAME= simh-3.8.1 +DISTNAME= simhv38-1 +REVISION= 4 CATEGORIES=emulators MASTER_SITES= ${HOMEPAGE}/sources/ -DISTFILES= simhv38-1.zip MAINTAINER=Oleg Safiullin f...@openbsd.org @@ -22,6 +22,10 @@ PERMIT_DISTFILES_FTP=Yes WANTLIB= c m pcap WRKDIST= ${WRKDIR} +EXTRACT_SUFX= .zip +MASTER_SITES0= http://spacehopper.org/mirrors/ +# Files from http://simh.trailing-edge.com/interim.html repackaged as a diff +PATCHFILES=simh-3.8.1-interim.diff:0 UNZIP= unzip -a -o Index: distinfo === RCS file: /cvs/ports/emulators/simh/distinfo,v retrieving revision 1.29 diff -u -p -r1.29 distinfo --- distinfo6 Mar 2009 10:33:23 - 1.29 +++ distinfo7 Oct 2011 08:17:08 - @@ -1,5 +1,10 @@ +MD5 (simh-3.8.1-interim.diff) = JJYiU313/E+rzZJ16ZNGPQ== MD5 (simhv38-1.zip) = 4V9lqC4h6knhS0ODJtk9XA== +RMD160 (simh-3.8.1-interim.diff) = 3IQeLrF8hSlc+YuEKh/VdoSaaYs= RMD160 (simhv38-1.zip) = 8IXFLskkJfhPZbPzYFy3q6i+ezI= +SHA1 (simh-3.8.1-interim.diff) = ixpJMs6+sSto2omfoA04ytaRU0k= SHA1 (simhv38-1.zip) = XqwvjlC+EWAHJ5g+BQcmkKcGZwI= +SHA256 (simh-3.8.1-interim.diff) = c+fnjFbbZ9i+ormiXU7UDBX7FWjwcyQbjEoStFG7oIc= SHA256 (simhv38-1.zip) = T+KU+lKFsdbQvWn2CInADlGM4r5fAKvCvUrfqNqoWwY= +SIZE (simh-3.8.1-interim.diff) = 57923 SIZE (simhv38-1.zip) = 2954982
Re: emulators/simh diff (Was Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4)
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Stuart Henderson st...@openbsd.org wrote: On 2011/10/07 09:55, Giovanni Bechis wrote: Can we just add the files to the set and overwrite the existing ones in pre-build or something? I've thought about this before sending the diff... Isn't it a bit too ugly? Those files are even polluted by ^M microsoft crap. Kill'em with sed before copying them into files/ The master site is pretty slow too, here's another option... I like it! Please, go ahead and commit it. ciao, David
[UPDATE] wget-1.13.4
Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... Cheers! David Index: Makefile === RCS file: /cvs/ports/net/wget/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.55 diff -u -p -r1.55 Makefile --- Makefile19 Nov 2010 22:31:39 - 1.55 +++ Makefile6 Oct 2011 08:25:40 - @@ -2,8 +2,7 @@ COMMENT = retrieve files from the web via HTTP, HTTPS and FTP -DISTNAME = wget-1.12 -REVISION = 1 +DISTNAME = wget-1.13.4 CATEGORIES = net HOMEPAGE = http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/ @@ -14,7 +13,7 @@ PERMIT_PACKAGE_FTP = Yes PERMIT_DISTFILES_CDROM =Yes PERMIT_DISTFILES_FTP = Yes -WANTLIB = c crypto ssl idn +WANTLIB = c crypto idn ssl z LIB_DEPENDS = devel/libidn MASTER_SITES = ${MASTER_SITE_GNU:=wget/} @@ -24,6 +23,7 @@ MODULES = devel/gettext CONFIGURE_STYLE = gnu CONFIGURE_ENV += CPPFLAGS=-I${LOCALBASE}/include \ LDFLAGS=-L${LOCALBASE}/lib +CONFIGURE_ARGS += --with-ssl=openssl USE_GROFF =Yes pre-build: Index: distinfo === RCS file: /cvs/ports/net/wget/distinfo,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -p -r1.10 distinfo --- distinfo15 Oct 2009 08:27:04 - 1.10 +++ distinfo6 Oct 2011 08:25:40 - @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -MD5 (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = FBRhucBORU3IkzydHyq/gw== -RMD160 (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = Iy0Kpvs2cxwWLStzdKqatZ5nG30= -SHA1 (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = UNTtJEHmfbeqUGHYpN3kHuDpQkg= -SHA256 (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = dXjtCXThLKpxEgWB+jli7lpp9xdd3D1qbbDs3LpltXI= -SIZE (wget-1.12.tar.gz) = 2464747 +MD5 (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = HfSJl2oRi5y+GwNQKtv8Jw== +RMD160 (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = YQYr/Uwo+Fox9ZnpD4P6hLoccdA= +SHA1 (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = 4l4bSHAm3dkCbKfSavIfBEyITSg= +SHA256 (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = JMdxC8nyIM4j2Kng9Wc7DvwcrOYttt4CObWGPsyTTc0= +SIZE (wget-1.13.4.tar.gz) = 2815185 Index: patches/patch-doc_Makefile_in === RCS file: /cvs/ports/net/wget/patches/patch-doc_Makefile_in,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -p -r1.4 patch-doc_Makefile_in --- patches/patch-doc_Makefile_in 15 Oct 2009 08:27:09 - 1.4 +++ patches/patch-doc_Makefile_in 6 Oct 2011 08:25:40 - @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ doc/Makefile.in.orig Tue Sep 22 18:40:11 2009 -+++ doc/Makefile.inThu Oct 1 14:53:44 2009 -@@ -598,7 +598,7 @@ +--- doc/Makefile.in.orig Thu Oct 6 09:25:28 2011 doc/Makefile.inThu Oct 6 09:27:11 2011 +@@ -1061,7 +1061,7 @@ manext = 1 RM = rm -f TEXI2POD = $(srcdir)/texi2pod.pl MAN = wget.$(manext) @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ SAMPLERCTEXI = sample.wgetrc.munged_for_texi_inclusion # -@@ -1067,23 +1067,9 @@ +@@ -1558,22 +1558,8 @@ install.man: $(MAN) # install sample.wgetrc install.wgetrc: $(srcdir)/sample.wgetrc @@ -29,10 +29,8 @@ - else \ -$(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/sample.wgetrc $(DESTDIR)$(WGETRC); \ - fi -- + $(mkinstalldirs) $(DESTDIR)$(WGETRCDIR) + $(INSTALL_DATA) $(srcdir)/sample.wgetrc $(DESTDIR)$(WGETRCDIR) -+ + # uninstall man page uninstall.man: - $(RM) $(DESTDIR)$(mandir)/man$(manext)/$(MAN) Index: patches/patch-doc_wget_texi === RCS file: /cvs/ports/net/wget/patches/patch-doc_wget_texi,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -p -r1.3 patch-doc_wget_texi --- patches/patch-doc_wget_texi 9 Oct 2008 18:50:45 - 1.3 +++ patches/patch-doc_wget_texi 6 Oct 2011 08:25:40 - @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ $OpenBSD: patch-doc_wget_texi,v 1.3 2008/10/09 18:50:45 sthen Exp $ doc/wget.texi.orig Mon Jun 30 03:10:16 2008 -+++ doc/wget.texi Thu Oct 9 15:36:39 2008 -@@ -11,6 +11,11 @@ +--- doc/wget.texi.orig Sat Aug 6 12:22:58 2011 doc/wget.texi Thu Oct 6 10:25:12 2011 +@@ -10,6 +10,11 @@ @setchapternewpage on @c %**end of header @@ -13,12 +13,14 @@ $OpenBSD: patch-doc_wget_texi,v 1.3 2008 @iftex @c Remove this if you don't use A4 paper. @afourpaper -@@ -191,12 +196,12 @@ gauge can be customized to your preferences. +@@ -190,14 +195,14 @@ gauge can be customized to your preferences. Most of the features are fully configurable, either through command line options, or via the initialization file @file{.wgetrc} (@pxref{Startup File}). Wget allows you to define @dfn{global} startup files --(@file{/usr/local/etc/wgetrc} by default) for site settings. -+(@file{${SYSCONFDIR}/wgetrc} by default) for site settings. +-(@file{/usr/local/etc/wgetrc} by default) for site settings. You can also ++(@file{${SYSCONFDIR}/wgetrc} by default) for site settings. You can also + specify the location of a startup file with the --config option. + @ignore @c man begin FILES @@ -28,7 +30,7 @@ $OpenBSD:
Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4
On 2011/10/06 02:42, David Coppa wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... http://www.openbsd.org/vax-simh.html is about all that most of us can manage in the way of gcc2 tests..
Re: emulators/simh diff (Was Re: [UPDATE] wget-1.13.4)
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM, David Coppa dco...@openbsd.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 10:30:45AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011/10/06 02:42, David Coppa wrote: Hi, The diff below updates wget to version 1.13.4 (the latest). I've tested it on amd64 and sparc64, but I'd appreciate a test on a gcc2 arch if is it possible... http://www.openbsd.org/vax-simh.html is about all that most of us can manage in the way of gcc2 tests.. Ok, thanks. I'll go through the simh route then... In the meantime, this diff applies the interim corrections from: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/interim.html OK? Maintainer's email just bounced back... cheers, David