Re: minimalist
On 2013 Jun 15 (Sat) at 21:30:44 +0200 (+0200), Christopher Zimmermann wrote: :On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:58:03 -0600 :Aaron def...@gmail.com wrote: : : On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: :What ever happened to mail/minimalist? : $ locate mail/minimalist : /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist : : thanks, I wasn't aware of openbsd-wip : and only looked under mail/ : : Should ports(7) or the FAQ mention openbsd-wip explicitly? : : : It's on github and isn't an official thing ( hence the lack of mention : ) - https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip : : :Hi, : :I do not really maintain the wip port. You better use the current :version from github: https://github.com/madroach/minimalist : Then delete the port from the wip. Making it a graveyard for abandoned ports is a terrible thing. :Christopher -- Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein
Re: minimalist
On Jun 16, 2013 3:30 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org wrote: Then delete the port from the wip. Making it a graveyard for abandoned ports is a terrible thing. BTW, is there an actual graveyard? I believe having [semi-]official one would be helpful for those wanting the software not in ports. Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Re: minimalist
On 2013 Jun 16 (Sun) at 18:31:14 + (+), Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote: :On Jun 16, 2013 3:30 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org wrote: : Then delete the port from the wip. Making it a graveyard for abandoned : ports is a terrible thing. : :BTW, is there an actual graveyard? I believe having [semi-]official one :would be helpful for those wanting the software not in ports. : No. Put it in ports, or delete them. Having broken shit around is not helping anyone. -- Ass, n.: The masculine of lass.
Re: minimalist
On 16/06/13 2:31 PM, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote: On Jun 16, 2013 3:30 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org wrote: Then delete the port from the wip. Making it a graveyard for abandoned ports is a terrible thing. BTW, is there an actual graveyard? I believe having [semi-]official one would be helpful for those wanting the software not in ports. openbsd-wip pretty much is a graveyard. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: minimalist
On 2013/06/16 15:37, Brad Smith wrote: On 16/06/13 2:31 PM, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote: On Jun 16, 2013 3:30 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org wrote: Then delete the port from the wip. Making it a graveyard for abandoned ports is a terrible thing. BTW, is there an actual graveyard? I believe having [semi-]official one would be helpful for those wanting the software not in ports. openbsd-wip pretty much is a graveyard. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. I've just trimmed it a bit of things which have already been committed. People using it, note the WIP part of the name, *work-in-progress*, it's not meant to be a dumping ground.. you still need to polish things, send them out by email for review, etc..
Re: minimalist
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 09:33:25PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2013/06/16 15:37, Brad Smith wrote: On 16/06/13 2:31 PM, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote: On Jun 16, 2013 3:30 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org wrote: Then delete the port from the wip. Making it a graveyard for abandoned ports is a terrible thing. BTW, is there an actual graveyard? I believe having [semi-]official one would be helpful for those wanting the software not in ports. openbsd-wip pretty much is a graveyard. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. I've just trimmed it a bit of things which have already been committed. People using it, note the WIP part of the name, *work-in-progress*, it's not meant to be a dumping ground.. you still need to polish things, send them out by email for review, etc.. I've added this note to README.md: If you don't want work anymore in your half-finished or not-commited-yet port, please remove it from the repository. In the future, other people can rescue your work from the git history. A clean repository will avoid convert this in a graveyard. (I don't know if my english is correct or not) -- Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
Re: minimalist
On Jun 15 14:24:44, h...@stare.cz wrote: What ever happened to mail/minimalist? I am using a version from ports dated # $OpenBSD: Makefile.template,v 1.61 2012/03/29 13:41:58 sthen Exp $ Ah, silly me. It never _was_ in the ports, right? but it does not exist in the current ports tree. Jan
Re: minimalist
On 2013/06/15 15:00, Jan Stary wrote: On Jun 15 14:24:44, h...@stare.cz wrote: What ever happened to mail/minimalist? I am using a version from ports dated # $OpenBSD: Makefile.template,v 1.61 2012/03/29 13:41:58 sthen Exp $ Ah, silly me. It never _was_ in the ports, right? but it does not exist in the current ports tree. Jan $ locate mail/minimalist /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/Makefile /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/UPDATE /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/distinfo /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/patches /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/patches/patch-minimalist_conf /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/pkg /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/pkg/DESCR /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/pkg/MESSAGE /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist/pkg/PLIST
Re: minimalist
What ever happened to mail/minimalist? $ locate mail/minimalist /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist thanks, I wasn't aware of openbsd-wip and only looked under mail/ Should ports(7) or the FAQ mention openbsd-wip explicitly?
Re: minimalist
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: What ever happened to mail/minimalist? $ locate mail/minimalist /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist thanks, I wasn't aware of openbsd-wip and only looked under mail/ Should ports(7) or the FAQ mention openbsd-wip explicitly? It's on github and isn't an official thing ( hence the lack of mention ) - https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip
Re: minimalist
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:58:03 -0600 Aaron def...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: What ever happened to mail/minimalist? $ locate mail/minimalist /usr/ports/openbsd-wip/mail/minimalist thanks, I wasn't aware of openbsd-wip and only looked under mail/ Should ports(7) or the FAQ mention openbsd-wip explicitly? It's on github and isn't an official thing ( hence the lack of mention ) - https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip Hi, I do not really maintain the wip port. You better use the current version from github: https://github.com/madroach/minimalist Christopher pgpq5f5VUDv4Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: minimalist
On Aug 03 12:28:52, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: I just finished adopting the documentation and creating a port for the minimalist mailing list manager. You can find it at https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/tree/master/mail/minimalist It installs OK. Why do you distribute patches/patch-minimalist_conf instead of having those changes present in the example minimalist.conf? What's the UPDATE file for? After installation only the entries to /etc/mail/aliases need to be added and you should be able to test the minimalist-example@localhost mailing list on chrooted minimalist via OpenSMTDd. This does not work as is: either the test email needs to be sent by 'postmaster', which is the only user subscribed to the 'minimalist-example' list, or the sending user needs to subscribe first: $ mail -s 'subscribe minimalist-example' minimalist@localhost /dev/null Also, when sending locally then, as in $ echo test | mail -s test minimalist-example the logfile says Use of uninitialized value $dom in concatenation (.) or string at /dev/fd/3 line 1998. Apart from that, it works. Thank you! With the original minimalist, the alias line would need to be minimalist-example: |/usr/local/sbin/minimalist.pl minimalist-example (i.e. the name of the list passed as argument). Do I understand it correctly that your minimalist parses the To header itself and thus does not need it? Thanks again Jan On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:54:17 +0200 Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Jul 22 12:07:51, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:03:04 +0200 Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Jul 21 18:04:51, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: Would you advise to use your github minimalist instead? Does it work better within smtpd than the original minimalist? Do you already have an OpenBSD port of it? I think it works a lot better than the original minimalist with OpenSMTPd. I made it perl-taint clean, removed every perl eval(), chrooted it, made it independent of a sendmail binary, but also removed some features in the process. This sounds nice, removng the sendmail dependence in particular. I would like to use and test your version. However, it doesn't work for me; the original minimalist.pl does. I guess there are some differences that need to be taken care of in /etc/minimalist.conf - I just changed the directory to /var/db/minimalist from the original /var/spool/minimalist but that's not enough. Is there a recommended minimalist.conf to use ith your minimalist.pl? Now I am using the original minimalist.conf Also, could you please (re)send the aliase file that works for you? This is what works for me now, with the original minimalist.pl: minimalist: |/usr/local/bin/minimalist.pl testing:|/usr/local/bin/minimalist.pl testing testing-owner: hans The documentation is not yet adapted to my changes. Yes; in particular, the minimalist.conf needs to be different. Do I understand it correctly that https://raw.github.com/madroach/minimalist/master/old_stuff/minimalist.conf-sample is just a copy from the original minimalist and is not supposed to work with your minimalist.pl? I intend to maintain it and fix bugs. Of course I would advise to use my version. At the moment I don't have much time, but in about two weeks I could do some work to adapt the documentation and especially the example conffile. Great, please let us know. Jan
Re: minimalist mailing list manager
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 12:34:13PM +0200, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: Hi, I just finished adopting the documentation and creating a port for the minimalist mailing list manager. You can find it at https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/tree/master/mail/minimalist After installation only the entries to /etc/mail/aliases need to be added and you should be able to test the minimalist-example@localhost mailing list on chrooted minimalist via OpenSMTDd. Thanks, Christopher! I get configuration file syntax errors when testing with: # minimalist.pl - minimalist-example This happens when language = en is set, or with that commented out to take the default, because there is no /var/db/minimalist/translations/en.pm file. The de.pm file translates from English to German ... there should be no need for an English translation. :)
Re: minimalist mailing list manager
On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 09:45:00 -0400 Josh Grosse j...@jggimi.homeip.net wrote: On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 12:34:13PM +0200, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: Hi, I just finished adopting the documentation and creating a port for the minimalist mailing list manager. You can find it at https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/tree/master/mail/minimalist After installation only the entries to /etc/mail/aliases need to be added and you should be able to test the minimalist-example@localhost mailing list on chrooted minimalist via OpenSMTDd. Thanks, Christopher! I get configuration file syntax errors when testing with: # minimalist.pl - minimalist-example This happens when language = en is set, or with that commented out to take the default, because there is no /var/db/minimalist/translations/en.pm file. The de.pm file translates from English to German ... there should be no need for an English translation. :) Thanks for the report. The warning is fixed at the github repository.
Re: minimalist
Nice :-) On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 12:28:52PM +0200, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: Hi, I just finished adopting the documentation and creating a port for the minimalist mailing list manager. You can find it at https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/tree/master/mail/minimalist After installation only the entries to /etc/mail/aliases need to be added and you should be able to test the minimalist-example@localhost mailing list on chrooted minimalist via OpenSMTDd. Cheers, Christopher On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:54:17 +0200 Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Jul 22 12:07:51, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:03:04 +0200 Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Jul 21 18:04:51, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: Would you advise to use your github minimalist instead? Does it work better within smtpd than the original minimalist? Do you already have an OpenBSD port of it? I think it works a lot better than the original minimalist with OpenSMTPd. I made it perl-taint clean, removed every perl eval(), chrooted it, made it independent of a sendmail binary, but also removed some features in the process. This sounds nice, removng the sendmail dependence in particular. I would like to use and test your version. However, it doesn't work for me; the original minimalist.pl does. I guess there are some differences that need to be taken care of in /etc/minimalist.conf - I just changed the directory to /var/db/minimalist from the original /var/spool/minimalist but that's not enough. Is there a recommended minimalist.conf to use ith your minimalist.pl? Now I am using the original minimalist.conf Also, could you please (re)send the aliase file that works for you? This is what works for me now, with the original minimalist.pl: minimalist: |/usr/local/bin/minimalist.pl testing:|/usr/local/bin/minimalist.pl testing testing-owner: hans The documentation is not yet adapted to my changes. Yes; in particular, the minimalist.conf needs to be different. Do I understand it correctly that https://raw.github.com/madroach/minimalist/master/old_stuff/minimalist.conf-sample is just a copy from the original minimalist and is not supposed to work with your minimalist.pl? I intend to maintain it and fix bugs. Of course I would advise to use my version. At the moment I don't have much time, but in about two weeks I could do some work to adapt the documentation and especially the example conffile. Great, please let us know. Jan -- Gilles Chehade https://www.poolp.org @poolpOrg
