RE: Clip: Twangcast

1999-04-29 Thread Jon Weisberger

...who the heck is Heather Mills?

Sings with Dee Waylors, yes?

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Songs From The Mountain (was: RE: Topsoil Playlist for April)

1999-04-29 Thread Jon Weisberger

The book is sold many places without the CD; the deal specified that you
couldn't sell the CD without the book, not (alas) vice versa.  Still, I
believe I saw something slide by on bgrass-l a couple of days ago that
indicated that the CD can now be sold on its own, so I'd say it's time for
P2-friendly mail-order types to check in with Howdy Skies Records (POB
120283, Nashville 37212; dunno about a phone, but when Traci Thomas returns
next week I'm sure she can scare one up).

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RE: V-Roys

1999-04-27 Thread Jon Weisberger

 I think the credit belongs to the band. I liked their first record better
 than the second. I think the second one is more "produced" than the first.
 The first album has more of a live feel to it.

That's what those slicksters of the Nashville machine will do to you.

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RE: Country Weekly magazine?

1999-04-27 Thread Jon Weisberger

Neal's right, there was a little talk about Country Weekly a little while
ago.  I'd say Jon has it about right in terms of the oldtimers and alt.  The
April 20 issue has gossip notes on everyone from Faith Hill, Brooks  Dunn
and Lila McCann to Ricky Skaggs, Kitty Wells and George Jones.  There are
stories on Mark Wills' new bus and LeAnn Rimes' new house (nice picture of
LeAnn with , but there's also a feature about Waylon Jennings and his first
#1 ("This Time"), a quote from Steve Earle ("I believe in being steeped in
tradition.  I believe you have to learn all the rules - then you can start
breaking them."), a feature on Dwight Yoakam - there's a great Nashville
quote in there I'm gonna post one of these days - a fun-filled page of facts
on Mary Chapin Carpenter, and news of a new Moe  Joe album.  You could do a
lot worse, though when Jon calls the writing "workmanlike," he's cutting
them a bit of slack g.

The LeAnn Rimes story, BTW, has a tidbit I haven't heard mentioned before:
"I just recorded a country classics album.  We did 17 songs, including hits
from Patsy Cline, Hank Williams Sr. and Kris KristoffersonI feel honored
to be able to record songs by the people who made country music greatI'm
anxious to bring the legendary country songs we recorded to a young
audience, because there are kids who haven't heard them.  And I hope the
more contemporary songs capture an older audience as well."  She co-produces
on the album.  Theres a nice pic of LeAnn and one of those red, white and
blue guitars of Buck Owens, presented to her by Buck, with an inscription on
its brass pickguard (dated 9/16/98, BTW).






RE: Twitty, Tucker, Atkins

1999-04-27 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Chet Atkins - so is "The Essential" the way to go?

Probably, at least on economic grounds, though the Country All-Stars Jazz
From The Hills album on Bear Family will get you not only prime Chet but
also some other folks regularly named around here, like the
recently-discussed Jerry Byrd, fiddler Dale Potter, Jethro Burns on
mandolin.  Chet really built his reputation in the 50s, and his work from
that period is a lot shinier.

 Tanya Tucker - have her first two albums been released on CD? and she had
 about 4 'Greatest Hits' CDs. I know enought to avoid the one dated
 1990-1992, but what of the others?

Sony has a Nice Price one that has her early hits (look for "Jamestown
Ferry"), MCA has a set that covers her later 70s stuff.

 Conway Twitty - Sheesh, there are 56 CDs listed at Amazon and ALL BUT 5
 are Greatest Hits collections. Help. I'm assuming I'd prefer his earlier
 stuff to his later stuff.

Bad assumption, unless you mean his rockabilly stuff from the 50s (look for
stuff done for MGM if that's what you're after); Twitty was remarkably
consistent in sound and style for a long, long time.  I'm pretty happy with
my MCA 20 Greatest Hits ("Hello Darlin'" to "Red Neckin' Love Makin'
Night"), but most any MCA collection will do for starters.  Whatever you
get, make sure it has "(Lying Here With) Linda On My Mind."

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RE: bluegrass whatever

1999-04-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

Cherry Lou says:

 I'm on digest so I'm kinda jumping in on the tail end of the whole
 bluegrass hack band stealing jobs from the real guys thing, but it strikes
 me as incredibly distasteful. Should there be a bluegrass INS to keep all
 those outsiders from stealing jobs from our boys? Begin the
 thinning of the herd!! Christ, and people ask me why we (tmp) don't play
 bluegrass festivals. Because no one in any seedy rock club in America is
 going to judge whether we're fit to represent a entire genre. Why are
 people in the bluegrass clique so defensive and insular?

Who said anything about outsiders?  Some of the worst examples I've seen are
insiders - like bands with guys in them who promote festivals, and swap out
time on their stages to play on the stages of festivals promoted by other
guys who are in bands.  In fact all of the examples I can think of fall more
into that category.

 I hate to be all hippie, but isn't music supposed to be unifying and all
 that? What the hell is with all this snide divisive shit? Let damn Darius
 Rucker play the mandolin fer chrissakes. It's an instrument, not the holy
 grail.

I think it's great for Darius Rucker to talk about liking bluegrass, play
the mandolin (which is as much a country and country-rock instrument as a
bluegrass one, anyhow), and so on.  I've been out arguing that The Mountain
is a bluegrass album since long before it came out (Ronnie:  "he knows it
not easy to play, and it's not an easy thing to sing").  Maybe I'm insular
about bluegrass compared to some folks, but I'm a lot more relaxed about a
lot of the bluegrass boundaries than a lot of others.  I don't think
bluegrass is a matter of lists of forbidden and required instruments, for
instance.  But I do think that skill and craft are every bit as much a part
of bluegrass as the more-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder soul and feeling.
Monroe was emphatic about it; he told Gordon Terry, who played fiddle on
"Christmas Time's A Coming," that if he didn't play it just like Tex Logan
(who wrote it), why, he'd have Tex come in and record it - and that's just
one example.  Talk to Blue Grass Boys and they'll tell you all kinds of
stuff about his musical demands.  Jimmy Martin was the same way.  Ralph
expects you to be able to play your instrument to be a Clinch Mountain Boy.

Different kinds of music have different values in different proportions -
I'm not proposing this as an assertion of bluegrass's superiority - and I
think bluegrass values that kind of stuff, bluegrass as it was created and
developed by great musicians who put in just as much hard work as they did
feeling and spontaneity.

That's the short answer.

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RE: Grisman (was Goose Creek Symphony)

1999-04-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

Jim Nelson says:

 Uh, Jon, are you forgetting something?  I don't see a mention of
 "Here Today" (Rounder) on your list of recommendations.  You
 know, the one with Grisman, Herb Pedersen, Jim Buchanan, etc., oh
 and some guy named Gill doing the lead singing and playing
 guitar.  I'm kind of surprised.

Me too.  Of course, I just assumed that everyone already has a copy of that
one, since I've been touting it here for so long g.

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RE: bluegrass whatever

1999-04-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Ricky tried.  A nice comparison of Highway 40 Blues done as a
 country piece
 and as a bluegrass piece, and a nice demo of adding that high lonesome
 tenor.  After this stirring piece of a cappella singing,
 BlandNPRInterviewerWoman asked, "Why would you want to sing like
 that?"  Or
 something about as derogatory.

Maybe that's why they didn't archive that segment at the Morning Edition
site; too embarrassing.

Sorry I missed it,

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RE: questions, news and a rave

1999-04-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

Joe wonders:

 Is there still a label called Columbia?

They're still putting stuff out with that mark - last year's Tribute To
Tradition is on Columbia, the Dylan 1966 album is on Columbia, and Deryl
Dodd's new album (this year, I think) is, too.

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RE: Cold Mt. Music NPR

1999-04-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

Jamie said:

 NP Bluegrass Mandolin Extavaganza (Produced by Ronnie
 McCoury  David Grisman)

and I'm sure looking forward to hearing this, but I have to say I think it's
unfortunate that they couldn't find room on a double CD for at least one cut
from Dempsey Young of the Lost  Found.  Sure, they had to leave folks out,
but he's every bit at the level of the guys who are on there, including
Jesse McReynolds and Bobby Osborne, and is the best under-appreciated
mandolin player around.

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RE: Dixie Chicks Article in Dallas Observer

1999-04-25 Thread Jon Weisberger

Marie says:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 geez, but how do you really feelwhat's up with such completely
 "mean-spirited" attacks on critics that for some reason are not
 likedwhat
 a waste of time...

 That was nothing. If you really want to see insults and venom
 hurled about, bring up the 'M' word. Marcus...as in Greil.

Though I generally dislike his writing style, and though I think _Invisible
Republic_ has a lot of dopey stuff ("who is Willie," anyone?), Marcus has
written some good things, as well - and in the area of pure malice and
sleazy personal attack he can't hold a candle to Wilonsky.

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Floyd Tillman comp

1999-04-25 Thread Jon Weisberger

The talk about Willie Nelson's singing style reminds me that I had meant to
mention that the Collector's Choice Tillman CD that has a couple dozen of
Floyd's Columbia records,including "Slipping Around," "This Cold War With
You," "It Had To Be That Way," "I Gotta Have My Baby Back," etc. is now
available through regular retail channels.  Oh, baby.

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RE: Lee Ann Womack on the Opry

1999-04-25 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Oh, RATS!  Ray Price was on the Opry?  And Lee Ann Womack and Stonewall,
 too?

Gotta bookmark that Opry schedule page, Dina g.  It's at
http://www.country.com/music/opry/opry-schedule-f.html ; they usually post
the new one on Wednesday.

Thanks all for the help on "A Way To Survive."  I shoulda figured it'd be a
Hank Cochran song...

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RE: Floyd Tillman comp

1999-04-25 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Floyd Tillman is one of the least appreciated great American
 songwriters.

In a lot of places, for sure, but not in Nashville g, where he's a charter
member of the Songwriters Hall Of Fame (1970) and was inducticated, as Jimmy
Martin says, into the Country Music HOF in 1984.

Biggest shortcoming of the new comp is that "A Small Little Town" didn't
make the cut.  I sure hope they put it on Volume Two g.

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RE: Earle and Country music sales

1999-04-25 Thread Jon Weisberger

Joe Gracey says:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Steve Earle earned his "GOLD" status for Guitar Town!!  That
 came out in 1986
  and has only sold 500,000 copies.  What the heck is goin' on
 
 Especially since Guitar Town was a #1 country album.  What gives?

 #1 for how long? is probably the operative question. If it shot up and
 fell back off in a hurry, it might have never sold a lot of copies.

And I suspect that was the case, plus which, as Evan speculated, country
music was on a downswing right about then popularity-wise, plus which (most
importantly, probably), 1986 was well pre-Soundscan, and it's a truism that
country sales were under-reported in those days.

BTW, Copperhead Road made gold a while ago, according to the CMHOF
Encyclopedia.

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RE: Floyd Tillman comp/ Jimmy Wakely

1999-04-25 Thread Jon Weisberger

Barry "Mr. Good Taste" Mazor says:

 Jon Weisberger wrote:
 t the Collector's Choice Tillman CD that has a couple dozen of
  Floyd's Columbia records, is now
  available through regular retail channels.  Oh, baby.


 So these would be all those key late-40s cuts missing from the
 Hall of Fame
 comp--and not just those 3 cuts I've had on the Columbia "Honky Tonk
 Heroies" comp?  Oh Baby indeed.

That's correct; 2 dozen cuts made between 1946 and 1952.

 In a related area, I've also just been catching up with--and really
 admiring and liking--the smooth honky tonk of Jimmy Wakely.  Got a
 hard-to-locate comp while in Austin called "Million Sellers" on
 the obscure
 but apparently legit "Country Legends/KRB" label...
 But the  larger  and recent Capitol Vintage comp seems to have disappeared
 as suddenly and quietly as it appeared, so I have to keep checking for
 that.
Any other recommendations there?

Simitar, a label about which I know nothing more than what it says on their
website (http://www.simitar.com), has a nice 12-cut selection that's very
badly annotated (the sum total of recording info is that the cuts "were made
in the 1940s").  It might be transcription stuff from when he was on Autry's
radio show, or from his movies made for Monogram.  Nothing really famous on
it, unless you count what I guess must be the original version of "Too
Late," which folks might know from the Louvin Brothers' version (Wakely
wrote it), but it's good stuff; Wakely was awfully consistent.

That's bad news about the Capitol Vintage comp.

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Terri Clark?

1999-04-25 Thread Jon Weisberger

I've enjoyed the last two singles from off her most recent album pretty well
("You're Easy On The Eyes" and "Every Time I Cry").  Does the album go any
deeper in good stuff, or is that pretty much it?  I bought the album before
that and wasn't too impressed, but she did good on the George Jones Show, so
maybe there's something there?

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RE: Steve, Del and Ronnie

1999-04-25 Thread Jon Weisberger


 The latest issue of "Acoustic Guitar" has a good interview with Steve Earl
 and Del and Ronnie McCoury. Not just for guitar nerds.

Um, since you mention it, there's an interview with Del and Ronnie in the
current issue of Bluegrass Now.  And to tie into another thread: it didn't
make it in the published piece, but one of the interesting things they
mentioned was that they were getting fans via Phish, which does a couple of
Del's numbers.  Of course, Del has a connection to the Deadheads via
Grisman; they go way back together (check out Early Dawg, on Sugar Hill).

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RE: Dixie Chicks Article in Dallas Observer

1999-04-24 Thread Jon Weisberger

Louise says:

Two extremes and both too extreme IMO.

Which is about right; if Natalie Maines were all the Monument Chicks have
going for them, some folks - well, me, at least - wouldn't have much
interest, so Corcoran's it's-all-Natalie "defense" is of minimal use.
Wilonsky, on the other hand, is a supreme idiot - no, wait, that's too nice;
he's a supremely mean-spirited idiot, and not just because of his snide
anti-bluegrass hipster pathology, but because when he writes stuff like
this:

the Chicks keep insisting it's their first record, as
though the past decade never happened. Too many times
have they uttered such nonsense in interviews...

he's just a flat out liar, as anyone who's read, for instance, the current
Country Music magazine piece on the Chicks (a full page on the band's
history - with quotes about it from Seidel - including a their first three
album titles, with combined sales figures) can attest.  A mean-spirited,
chuckle-headed, lying asshole.

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RE: Updates

1999-04-24 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Yeah, damn shame how advances in recording technology have made
 it possible
 for people to make records without the financing -- or blessing -- of some
 media conglomerate more concerned with cash than quality or a group of
 gatekeepers who get to decide what's "professional" or not.  This quote is
 so ludicrous it would be laughable, if it weren't for the fact that the
 opinions expressed are apparently shared by others.

Well, considering that Emerson's talking about bluegrass, I've got to take
that "media conglomerate" thing with a grain of salt.  There are a lot of
gatekeepers in the music bidness, and not all - not even most - of them are
Big Bad Guys.  Do you know any DJs who air all the cuts on everything they
get in the mail?  The ones who don't - which is all of them, I do believe -
are gatekeepers.  Clubs who book everyone who wants to play for as long as
they want to?  The ones who don't are gatekeepers.  Record labels that put
out everything sent in to them?  The ones who don't are...you guessed it.
The list of gatekeepers is a pretty long one, and while some of them do a
bad job, and some use what I think are pretty bad criteria, I don't see
anything wrong with the idea per se.  I've heard enough crappy stuff to last
a lifetime already.

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Lee Ann Womack on the Opry

1999-04-24 Thread Jon Weisberger

Caught most of the rerun of tonight's televised portion, and though Ray
Price was a hard act to follow - dang, he sounded good, and he also sounded
great on the radio-only second show - Lee Ann was up to the job after a
slightly shaky start with her Terry Smith-endorsed current hit; it looked to
me as though they were having some monitor problems (there was flash of the
lead guitar player pointing to his ear, which is usually a sign g).  She
did a *killer* version of "Miles And Miles Of Texas" for her (unscheduled)
encore, with lots of great ensemble playing from the band.  In between she
did a good slow, hard-country number that's not on either of her albums,
most likely titled "A Way To Survive"; anyone know where it comes from?

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RE: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

 But I think
 that if you state it this way -- "Just because something sells like
 hotcakes doesn't mean it's any good" -- then you're on more solid ground.

That Terry Smith, he's a sharp guy.

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RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

 well, what the hell is alt country then? The most reasonable
 definition I've
 been able to come up with is anything with country roots that Hot
 New Country
 stations won't get near, touch, play, mention, support, blah, blah, blah,
 which would include Walsner, Paul Burch, Dale Wartson, etc.

Yeah, but that doesn't include a lot of stuff that gets put in that bag,
unless you use a microscope to search out those roots (and that's giving it
the benefit of the doubt).  Wait a minute, isn't this where I came in?

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RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

Greg says:

 Elena (?) wrote:
   Lousy music is a drag, but since when has sucky music stopped talented
   musicians from making great music?

 And Jon W replied:
  It hasn't, but it can make it harder for them to get heard, both because
 of
  the turn-off factor already mentioned - "Yeesh, those guys
 couldn't carry
 a
  tune in a paper bag.  If that's what bluegrass/alt.country/blues is, I
 don't
  like it."

 Jon, isn't your turn-off factor above applicable to any genre?
 Seems to me that there are a lot more 'musicians who suck' than
 'musicians who rule' in every realm, including rock, country, blues,
 oldtime, jazz, cajun, new age, native american drumming, and Tuvan throat
 singing.  Or are you making a different kind of claim?

 Just searching for some clarification here.

The thread started out from Mr. Anonymous's point that sucky music is
hurting "the roots music movement," which would probably g include some of
the stuff Greg's listed.  Think for a minute about how different kinds of
music get exposure.  Rock, pop, country - these are mass genres, and anyone
with even a mild interest (or even no interest at all) gets exposed to a
fair amount of their stuff willy-nilly or with the most minimal kinds of
effort, like turning on the radio and dialing around for about 30 seconds;
fringier stuff gets corresponding less exposure, meaning that a sucky
performance almost certainly forms a higher percentage of a newbie's total
exposure to the style.  Leaving aside for the moment the important question
of what constitutes quality in a given style, even if the percentage of
sucksters is the same across the board, the likelihood is that it will form
a higher percentage of the total exposure someone new gets to a style in the
crucial first contact stages, when s/he's least able to evaluate its place
in that style.  Plus which, all of the mechanisms that function, in part, to
screen out incompetent (an important subset of sucky) stuff, don't operate
nearly as well in the fringier worlds; some of that might be by design, but
some of it's just a function of fringiness per se.

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RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

Todd says:

  But
 given most people's busy schedules and abundant entertainment
 choices, there's a good chance a lousy band (and it's not solely a
 matter of chops or a lack thereof) *would* turn them off to roots
 music for good. How many of us have gone back to a restaurant we
 hated the first time around?
 

 But did that stop you from going to restaurants altogether?  I
 really doubt that people go to see bands as representatives of a
 genre, as if the gig is a trial for a style of music, especially
 one as loosely defined as alt.country.  Seems more likely that they'd
 just write off the particular band -- it might not win them over,
 or get them to delve further into the
 genre, but I doubt that they'd carry a bias against the genre based on one
 of its practicioners...

If it discourages them from delving further into the genre, then as a
practical matter how's that different than a bias against the genre?  I
think Dave's restaurant analogy is actually a pretty decent one.  If there's
only one Chinese restaurant in town and it makes bad food, how many people
whose first taste of Chinese food is there are going to go further afield in
search of better?  Some will, but a fair number won't.  Whereas whether
someone's first taste of pizza is good or bad, chances are they're going to
get to taste it again, and from somewhere else (and maybe better), because
it's omnipresent.

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RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

Todd says:

I guess what it comes down to is the degree to which a given band is known
and marketed as representative of a certain genre, and the degree to which
people associate their particular experience of the band with the entire
genre.

Well, I'd say that a show billed as an alt.country showcase is one that's at
least to some degree marketing the acts who appear on it as representative
of the genre, and I'd say it's reasonable for people, especially those
unfamiliar to the genre, to think that a show billed as a bluegrass festival
is going to feature acts representative of bluegrass.

But the larger point for me, to say it one more time, is the notion
of blame.   The conversations here (and Mr. Anonymous' assertion that sucky
bands are a threat to the roots music movement) is like a bunch of
restaurant critics suggesting that the sucky Malaysian restaurant should
shut down before they ruin everyone's taste for the good stuff...

This is where you lose me, Todd, because I haven't suggested, nor do I think
Mr. Anonymous suggested, that some external authority ought to shut anyone
down.  I do think - and I'm speaking for myself, obviously, and not Mr.
Anonymous, who may be making a different argument - that this is a fairly
specific issue related to how these styles are perceived on first encounter.
It's worth noting that the International Bluegrass Music Association's
mission statement speaks explicitly about promoting higher standards of
professionalism, and the phenomenon that we've been talking about is a big
part of the reason why - not just with regard to the music itself, but with
all aspects of the field, like sound reinforcement, recording quality, art
work, venues, etc. - but the organization doesn't suggest kicking anybody
out of the business g.  I'll leave open the question of the extent to
which those are issues relevant to alt.country.

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RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Ummm, who are these bands that are getting on the radio and
 turning newbies off of "altcountry"?

I could name some pretty rotten Southern Ohio bluegrass bands who get
airplay on Southern Ohio bluegrass radio and get festival bookings, but I
doubt the names would mean much to anyone not from around here (does Larry
Efaw ring a bell?  Burning Bluegrass?  See what I mean?).

Crowe has had a couple of good rants on this subject; I'm going to see if I
can dig one of them up.

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RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

Greg, a/k/a "Mr. Onus," says:

 Jon, would you say then that if a 'bad' bluegrass band gets booked at a
 festival, the potential bad impression that could be loosed upon an
 unexpecting audience is the fault of the promoter?  Or does the onus fall
 upon the band itself?

Mostly the promoter, no doubt.

 Seems to me this is where Anon's arguments fail.  I think Anon's beef is
 much more with the organizers, promoters, and marketers of SXSW,
 but all the ire falls on the bands.

I don't think so; after all, Anon says:

The MOST disturbing part of the whole SXSW experience was seeing music
critics, label folks and radio programmers also eating these bands up like
they were the new Merle Haggard [emphasis added].

Which pretty much echoes something that Bill Emerson, banjoist
extraordinaire, told Bluegrass Unlimited a few years ago (I'm hunting for
that Crowe rant):

"The problem with bluegrass is that there's too much unprofessional
bluegrass.  It's a type of music that anybody can play anywhere.  You don't
have to have an amplifier or an AC power outletThat's not to say that
anyone who's doing it is ready to make records and compete for the jobs at
the bluegrass festivals.  Anyone with a few thousand dollars can produce a
recording and send it to radio stations.  Program directors, recording
executives and promoters should be careful about who they're putting out
there to represent the bluegrass idiom.  To help it grow we have to
concentrate on the *best* music we have."

BTW, Erin, that "compete for the jobs" clause is the fly in the ointment of
your more-is-better argument.  Half-assed musicians who figure that they can
overcome the deficiency of being half as good by charging a quarter as much
(an approach that promoters are all too often willing to sign on to) aren't
any help to working musicians.

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RE: pumpskullyfor postcard2@u.washington.edu; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:34:05 -0400 (EDT)

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

Wow, The Legend Returns...  Now, where'd that Gary Wilson get to?

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Tributes (was: RE: Updates)

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

 ...do the Ralph Stanley things count as tributes?

I'd say not, but there are two excellent tributes to the Stanley
Brothers/Ralph Stanley: The Stanley Tradition and Songs About Our Savior
(a/k/a The Stanley Gospel Tradition), both on the Doobie Shea label.
Actually, there are a number of tribute albums that I like; even restricting
the list to various artists ones (as opposed to single artist tributes like
the Louvins' Delmore Brothers and Roy Acuff albums, or Jim  Jesse's Louvin
Brothers album), I'd heartily recommend A Picture Of Hank: The New Bluegrass
Way, which has some great cuts by folks like Claire Lynch and Harley Allen,
and Sony's Tribute To Tradition, which has quite a few more winners than
losers - heck, even that Tammy Wynette...Remembered has some outstanding
cuts.

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RE: Mandy B/Don't Forget

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

 ...I was curious about that tune,
 "Trademark," again on the Mandy Barnett record. Jon identified it with
 some country artist, I can't recall who, but the co-writer is listed as
 Porter Wagoner (sp?). Did Porter write it, and someone else make a hit out
 of it?

Yup.  "Trademark" was a #2 for Carl Smith in 1953, more than a year before
Porter hit the Top 10 his own self (with "Company's Comin'").  If Porter
recorded it himself, it didn't make the Top 40.

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RE: Updatesfor postcard2@u.washington.edu; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:16:38 -0400 (EDT)

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger

I said:

  BTW, Erin, that "compete for the jobs" clause is the fly in the
 ointment of
  your more-is-better argument.  Half-assed musicians who figure
 that they can
  overcome the deficiency of being half as good by charging a
 quarter as much
  (an approach that promoters are all too often willing to sign
 on to) aren't
  any help to working musicians.

And Geff replied:

 Ah, but they CAN overcome - not just by price cutting, but by showing up
 on time, being nice to everybody they have to, and being generally
 professional when performing.

OK.  Make that "half-assed performers."

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RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

  You thought Vince Gill, right?

And still do.

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Kenny Chesney correction

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

Iin response to Linda's query, I contrasted Chesney's new album, Everywhere
I Go, with what I thought was the album before that, I Will Stand (the one
with "That's Why I'm Here").  There's another one, though, in between,
1998's You And Me, that's pretty good, though I still haven't decided
whether the up-tempo, rockin' remake of "(Turn Out The Light And) Love Me
Tonight" works.

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FW: Podunk Fest email flyer

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

For you New England types...


-Original Message-
From: Bluegrass music discussion. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Kevin Lynch
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 10:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Podunk Fest "email flyer"


Here's an email flyer for those of you recently requesting info re: the
Podunk Bg Festival in CT.  Radio people, promoters,  assorted Bluegrass
glitterati are welcomed as our guests...just contact me offline.
 Claimer: This is a total plug. I am one of the organizers of this
non-profit
"let's introduce Bluegrass to our potential regional audience" event. Noone
gets paid...with the exception of the artists, of course.

 Don't forget to plan...and DO SOMETHING...to promote Bluegrass music during
the upcoming "May is Worldwide Bluegrass Music Month" campaign!

-Kevin L.


--- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ---

4th Annual Podunk Bluegrass Music Festival
July 23rd  24th, 1999

Martin Park
Burnisde Avenue, East Hartford, CT


  Some of the finest artists in the music industry will be stopping by on
July 23rd and 24th for the 4th Annual Podunk Bluegrass Festival. This
two-day
extravaganza draws bluegrass lovers from around the country and is one of
Greater Hartford's biggest summer musical events.

 Last year more than 5,000 people enjoyed the picking and singing prompting
festival organizers to schedule both days in spacious Martin Park between
Hillside and Burnside Avenues.  Back by popular demand, Bluegrass pioneer
Ralph Stanley  The Clinch Mt. Boys will perform on Saturday night.  Six
additional major bluegrass artists will join Ralph's group throughout the
weekend including the duo of Peter Rowan   Tony Rice,  Eddie and Martha
Adcock,  Kathy Kallick Band,  Nickel Creek,  Unlimited Tradition,  Skip
Gorman  His Waddie Pals, and  Thunder Mt. Bluegrass.


  The Friday night concert is free from 7:00 - 10:00PM.
The Saturday festivities begin at 11:00AM and ends at 11:00PM.  Saturday
admission will be $10.00 for adults and free for children ten and under.
Parking will be $2.00 per day with the main entrance off Hillside Avenue.

  A special offer for rough camping is available in Martin Park on Friday
and
Saturday night for the reasonable price of $35.00 per vehicle which includes
camping  festival admission for up to four adults.  Camping space is
limited
and reservations are requested.

  There will also be civic information booths, spontaneous jam sessions with
performers, children's entertainment, a live nature center exhibit, a Civil
War Encampment, and plenty of food.

  The Podunk Bluegrass Music Festival is easily accessable.  Just take exit
58 off I-84 in East Hartford,
only minutes from I-91,  and twenty minutes from Bradley International
Airport. Hotels are available just 1/2 mile from festival site.


For more info / camping reservations call:

East Hartford Special Events Hotline (860)291-7350

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RE: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

  I want to add that I hope Mike is right with his observation that some
  country stations are leaning towards actually playing country
  music again.
  I had to stop the other day to find out what song was playing on a local
  station cos it sounded almost "alt.country." Turned out to be the latest
  Dixie Chicks single. Anyone else heard that one?

 I haven't heard it yet, but I love Joy Lynn's version of it.  And there
 ain't nothin' "alt" about it -- unless the Dixie Chicks rocked it up a
 bit.

I've heard it.  It's a good, straight country shuffle; "nothing 'alt' about
it" is right - you can hear a dozen or two like it any Saturday night on the
Grand Ole Opry, and that's not a criticism.  It will be interesting to see
how it fares on the charts.

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Country radio

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

Remember, what drives the format (like any other commercial one) is ratings,
which, it has been pointed out (most recently by Mike Hays), have been going
down, especially for HNC-oriented stations, as their target audience grows
disaffected.  The obvious remedies for station owners are 1) abandon the
country format altogether, 2) chase even harder after that audience with
even more pop- and rock-oriented fare, or 3) re-orient toward the long-term,
"traditional" country music audience.  I expect we'll see a combination of
all three, especially the latter two (after all, most other formats aren't
doing that well, either), and the charts will be increasingly schizophrenic
over the next couple of years.  I don't imagine that many individual
stations will try to combine 2 and 3, but you may see a few cases of it.

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RE: Set those VCRs

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

 TNN also has Bob Wills feature at 8 p.m...

That's EDT, BTW.  It's a rerun of the Life And Times Of show, and it's
pretty good.

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RE: Mandy B

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

 I've got to say, though, I like "Who (who will it
 be)" the best. Is that an old tune?

With a co-publisher named "Twenty Second Century Music," I doubt it g.
The definite oldies are "I've Got A Right To Cry" (Hank Jr.), "Give Myself A
Party" (Don Gibson), "Trademark" (Carl Smith), "Falling, Falling, Falling"
(Ray Price).  I assume that the Newbury and Bryants tunes are not new, but I
dunno who the original performers would be.

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RE: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

Bill Silvers says:

 Like I said about pop music last week, there's always a lot more
 mediocre or worse bands than good or great ones. Do those bands,
 in whatever genre, drag that style of music down for the other
 people playing it? What makes "the roots music movement" different?

 Anonymous asserts:

 The saddest part is the proliferation of these dime a dozen
 Americana bands is what killing the whole roots music movement.
 The pie is only so big for musicians, clubs, labels, and the more
 slices there are the less there is for the folks who really love
 this music and deserve an opportunity to make a living playing it.
 
 So is this really true? And if so, why more so for this music
 than any other, where nobody mentions how the lesser-quality bands
 are spoiling it for everybody else?

I think it's true, and it can be heard, though usually not in public and
usually not for attribution, from a lot of pro-level bluegrassers as well
(synchronistically, someone on
folkdj-l recently posted in passing a short comment from another
unidentified musician saying exactly the same thing with regard to
bluegrass; as it happens, I know the guy who made it, and he's definitely a
higher-quality type).

As for why the "roots music movement" is different in this regard, the short
answer, IMO, is unfamiliarity.  People's exposure to bluegrass, or
alt.country, for instance, is a lot smaller and a lot chancier, hence the
greater likelihood that hearing someone who, pardon my French, sucks will
turn the first-time observer off; s/he's more likely to take the lousy
performance as typical of the genre.

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RE: Clip: Mandy B, Charles Kim

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

 The label sent the album's first single only to
 Americana and "nonreporting" country stations...

Yeah, I meant to mention that after I read it on a Barnett-devoted website
last night.  That might account for its non-appearance on the Billboard
chart (that's who the nonreporting stations don't report to) almost as much
as tiny, impoverished Sire's inability to cough up enough payola.

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Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

RIAA's searchable gold/platinum database seems to be dead for the moment,
but here's a list of the best-selling artists, with millions of units
certified (a couple of pleasant surprises in there, notably George Strait
and Alan Jackson):

BEATLES, THE 106.03
BROOKS, GARTH 89
LED ZEPPELIN 69.27
EAGLES 64
JOHN, ELTON 61.62
STREISAND, BARBRA 60.25
JOEL, BILLY 60
AEROSMITH 54.37
PINK FLOYD 52.6
VAN HALEN 50.5
PRESLEY, ELVIS 50.1
JACKSON, MICHAEL 49.5
ROGERS, KENNY 49.5
CAREY, MARIAH 46
MADONNA 46
HOUSTON, WHITNEY 46
AC/DC 45.6
KENNY G 41.5
DIAMOND, NEIL 41.42
ROLLING STONES, THE 41.25
SPRINGSTEEN, BRUCE 40.75
U2 40.5
ALABAMA 40
FLEETWOOD MAC 39.5
JOURNEY 39.17
METALLICA 39
STRAIT, GEORGE 38.5
CHICAGO 35.5
GUNS 'N ROSES 35
PRINCE 33.5
CLAPTON, ERIC 33
NELSON, WILLIE 31.5
BON JOVI 31
MC ENTIRE, REBA 31
SEGER, BOB 29.5
DEF LEPPARD 29.5
DION, CELINE 29
BOSTON 28
STEWART, ROD 27
BOLTON, MICHAEL 27
TAYLOR, JAMES 27
RONSTADT, LINDA 26
BOYZ II MEN 26
SIMON  GARFUNKEL 24.12
JACKSON, ALAN 24
CARPENTERS 23.5
BEE GEES 23.5
PEARL JAM 23.5
FOREIGNER 23.5
ZZ TOP 23
NIRVANA 23
MELLENCAMP, JOHN 23
COLLINS, PHIL 22.5
JACKSON, JANET 22
NEWTON-JOHN, OLIVIA 22
MOTLEY CRUE 22
CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL 22
RUSH 21.67
R.E.O. SPEEDWAGON 21.5
OSBOURNE, OZZY 21.25
GENESIS 21
DOOBIE BROTHERS 21
HEART 20.5
TWAIN, SHANIA 20.5
MANILOW, BARRY 20.5
ESTEFAN, GLORIA 20.5
MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER 20
HOOTIE  THE BLOWFISH 20
RICHIE, LIONEL 20



RE: Artist of the Decade/singles/influence

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

As well, Nirvana combined quality and commercial success at an
incomparable level for the decade - if The Key had sold like a Garth
Brooks album, Jon W's assertion would hold up better, methinks.

If we're talking about the decade, I don't know that Nirvana's sold more
albums than Gill; the RIAA database is down right now, but I'll report back.
Gill's had a number of multi-platinum albums, though, and is clearly an
immense commercial success (The Key is his poorest-selling album so far); he
might not have sold as many albums, but though I think that commercial
success is a useful criterion in figuring out an AOTD, I don't know that
getting too far into the numbers is that productive.  For the record, there
are others who have combined quality and commercial success in this decade
at, I would argue, a higher level than either Gill *or* Nirvana - George
Strait, for one, Alan Jackson for another, per that best-seller list - but
as big a fan as I am of both of them, Strait was huge well before the 90s,
and Jackson doesn't, IMO, have the breadth of achievements that Gill does.
He's great, but I don't think he's been as outward-acting as Gill, who's
been visible in a number of important areas, like honoring Bill Monroe at
the Grammys, reinvigorating the Opry, etc., nor has he been as active in
working with others on their records.

In any event, I think your point about the atomization of markets is
well-taken, Carl.  I don't know that there really is an AOTD, as opposed to
AsOTD in various fields.




RE: Updates

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

  As for why the "roots music movement" is different in this
 regard, the short
  answer, IMO, is unfamiliarity.  People's exposure to bluegrass, or
  alt.country, for instance, is a lot smaller and a lot chancier,
 hence the
  greater likelihood that hearing someone who, pardon my French,
 sucks will
  turn the first-time observer off; s/he's more likely to take the lousy
  performance as typical of the genre.

 That's assuming that the performance is in fact lousy.

Well, it was part of the premise - that lousy performances/performers are
especially destructive to the "roots music movement."  Bill asked why they'd
be more harmful in that area as opposed to others, given that there are so
many crappy performances/performers in all genres.

 What about bands
 that put on a show which may be entertaining even though their music
 bears no resemblance to the genre they're billed under?

More complicated problem, I guess, but certainly not as harmful as
unentertaining ones g.

 Heard a Freakwater song one time and thought it was "interesting,"

One of the online CD stores has a RealAudio clip of their, ahem, rendition
of "Put My Little Shoes Away."  As someone who's doubtless familiar with
Monroe's, Wiseman's and other bluegrass versions, you oughta check it out,
Geff.  "Interesting" doesn't begin to describe it.

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RE: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Garth also made deals with certain chains (very large ones - Target,if I
 remember correctly) to double weight reports to Soundscan on sales of his
 double albums sold, which artificially boosts his total sales numbers.

I don't think that's right.  There was some controversy when the boxed set
came out because each of the CDs was being counted as a unit, but that's
true for all the RIAA-certified sales (it's specifically mention in the
gold/platinum criteria grid).  So a double album counts as two units whether
it's Double Live or one of those Beatles Anthology sets.  And while it's
true that Elvis started out in a singles-oriented market, Elvis albums were
coming out almost from the beginning.  But even after accounting for Elvis's
handicap in that regard, Brooks' sales record is still astonishing, given
that he didn't make his first album until 1989, and his name is surrounded
by the names of folks who have been selling for 2 or 3 times as long; the
only one who comes even close to matching him is Mariah Carey, whose first
album came out in 1990, and she's only sold half as many units.

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RE: Artist of the Decade/singles/influence

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

I wrote:

 If we're talking about the decade, I don't know that Nirvana's sold more
 albums than Gill; the RIAA database is down right now, but I'll
 report back.

And though the database is still down (wake up over there!), on taking
another look at the best-sellers list, I see that Nirvana clocks in at 23
million units (a million less than AJ, which I find surprising), whereas
Gill must be somewhere under 20 million.  Still, as I went on to say:

 Gill's had a number of multi-platinum albums, though, and
 is clearly an immense commercial success...

And just to quantify that, he's got 6 of them, which is immense commercial
success in my book g.

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RE: Radney Foster

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

 I found a promo copy of it at Amoeba in SF last fall, and I'm
 relieved that it's not gonna be a collectors item. Honest.

Is that the one with Darius "Mr. Bluegrass" Rucker guesting on it?

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RE: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-22 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Do you think that we could say with some confidence that this
 prove's Garth
 Brooks makes music according to the lowest common denominator?

 BTW - does anyone know how well Garth boy does internationally?

I believe the RIAA counts international sales in its certifications, but I
could be wrong.  He's certainly done well touring internationally.

As far as the lowest common denominator argument goes, I'm not sure what to
make of it.  The Beatles have sold about 20% more albums; does that mean
they made music for a 20% lower common denominator?  (I suspect there are a
few folks who will answer "yes".)  Out of the top 25 on that best-selling
list, I'd rather listen to most of Brooks' stuff than all but a handful - in
fact, I'd rather listen to most of his stuff than all but a handful of the
entire list.  Someone at one of our local HNC stations has been on a
Garth+NGR kick lately, so I've been reminded - and I'll take "Calling Baton
Rouge" and "Do What You Gotta Do" over an awful lot of other stuff.

Speaking of Brooks and 'grass, here's something Kathy Chiavola posted over
on bgrass-l about a year and a half ago:

Randy Howard had just finished playing fiddle on the Carl Jackson song
that
Garth recorded.  Randy spontaneously kicked off Carter Stanley's "The Fields
Have Turned Brown" and Carl joined in on guitar.  All of a sudden Garth
began
singing the tune and knew all of it.  He then decided to record it on the
spot.  Whether or not it will be released is anyone's guess.

I'd like to hear that; I'll bet it kicks ass.  The Carl Jackson tune
mentioned ("Fit For A King," on Sevens) sure does.

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RE: Mandy B

1999-04-21 Thread Jon Weisberger

 I wonder if Jon could provide a list of records that have made the country
 music charts, singles, albums, whatever, that have not come from Nashville
 based labels in the past, let's say 5 years.

I don't need to.  All I need to do is ask if Jim seriously thinks that if
the same album were released by, say, Asylum Nashville, which put out
Barnett's first album - co-produced by the head of the label, BTW - it would
be doing any better at country radio (which isn't based in Nashville).  If
the answer is no, then obviously the issuing label, not to mention it's
location, isn't the main problem; if the answer is yes, I've got some great
oceanfront property in Arizona I need to talk to him about.

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MN bluegrass/old-time festival

1999-04-21 Thread Jon Weisberger

It's a ways off, I know, but an early heads-up never hurt...

August 6-8
Minnesota Bluegrass 
Old Time Music
20th Anniversary Festival
Camp in the Woods Resort
(1 hr NW of Minneapolis)

Super line-up this year as the festival celebrates its 20th year.
Seldom Scene, Lynn Morris Band, James King Band, Lonesome River Band, Tom,
Brad  Alice, Volo Bogtrotters, New NC Ramblers, Bovee  Heil and many
more!
This is the premiere festival in the upper-midwest and this is the
year to check it out.  Workshops galore and vendors selling food,
instruments, learning materials, etc.
Call 1-800-635-3037 for details.

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RE: Mandy B

1999-04-21 Thread Jon Weisberger

Jim says:

 My point, and I think we keep missing each other, is that country radio
 (which is NOT based in Nashville) and the country music labels are in bed
 on this togetherthere are under the
 table deals made in all formats that control what gets played

 Sure it's called the Nashville machine, that doesn't mean it all
 happens in Nashville.

If radio is NOT based in Nashville, and the country music labels are (as
they in fact are) nothing more than divisions of NOT based in Nashville
companies, and there are these deals "in all formats" between these NOT
based in Nashville consultants and NOT based in Nashville radio and NOT
based in Nashville labels, then it ought not to be called the Nashville
machine - and in fact, it isn't; what it's called by most people is the
music bidness.

The more money you throw at
the consultants and their ilk, the better response you get. If Sire REALLY
wanted to get Mandy Barnett on the radio, they'd hire a big time radio
promoter, who would pay some consultant to add her record to his stations
and then you'd hear her on the radio.

Back to Don's question: why didn't the singles off The Key do better?  MCA's
too poor to pay a promoter?  I don't *think* so.

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RE: Mandy B

1999-04-21 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Two observations about this Jim vs. Don and Jon debate (a side issue: when
 the hell do we get Don vs. Jon?).

Whenever the subject of the original alt.country comes up.

 Anyhow, first thing, aren't a lot of the
 sensitive ballad weiners coming out of Nashville not doing that well
 either? So it's evidently not just material that's "too country" that's
 having a difficult time...

I didn't say it was, but it's certainly a big category of stuff that has had
a hard time getting airplay, regardless of what label it's on.  Furthermore,
all the stuff you're referring to, and a lot of the light-weight New Country
stuff in general is on what Jim calls Nashville-based labels, so the
difficulty some of these acts are having argues against his pay=play
equation too.

 ...which comes first,
 lousy record sales and then radio play falls off, or the other way around?

The truism is that airplay drives sales (that's why labels send stuff to
radio for free, eh?), and there's a lot of evidence to support that as a
general proposition.  On the other hand, you can get pretty decent sales
without airplay; recent examples would include Kelly Willis, Steve Earle 
The Del McCoury Band and Trio II, all of which are or got pretty high on
Billboard's sales chart without benefit of mainstream (country or otherwise)
airplay.  Alison Krauss  Union Station's So Long, So Wrong went gold
without benefit of mainstream airplay, too, to take a somewhat earlier
example.

 Second thing, I'm not convinced by Don and Jon's example of Vince Gill's
 "The Key." It's one record, and I think we need some more examples.
 There's other factors that may have contributed to its lack of success
 (incidentally, a "lack of success" that very many performers in and out of
 Nashville envy greatly). But basically, until you've provided some more
 examples, you're vulnerable to the "exception that proves the
 rule" argument.

Barnett's first album.  Dawn Sears' second album.  Daryle Singletary, who
had a couple of big hits and then went nowhere on account of being too
country.  Rhonda Vincent.  Junior Brown has gotten video airplay up the
wazoo - won mainstream awards for his videos - and can't get airplay, and
he's on Curb.  Allison Moorer's not getting airplay, and she's on MCA and
has been a personal project of Tony Brown's.  Danni Leigh's basically gone
nowhere airplay-wise.  Skaggs' pre-bluegrass albums of the 90s.  George
Jones (when he went from MCA to Asylum, Evelyn Shriver said that as far as
they were concerned, they were writing radio off up front).  Those are off
the top of my head, and I'll bet it wouldn't take long to come up with other
examples.

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RE: Mandy B

1999-04-21 Thread Jon Weisberger

 If the Garthman had made an album like The Key, you bet your ass it
 would be on the radio!

I dunno, John, I don't think "Longneck Bottle" did nearly as well as his
poppier stuff, like that Dylan song.  I guess we won't really know, though,
until he releases that version of "The Fields Have Turned Brown" that's in
the can g.

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RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-21 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Where's Weisberger to ask about criteria? g

Hey, I made my nomination during the Escovedo go-round, and I haven't seen
any reason to rethink it - in fact, I've seen lots of reasons to confirm it.

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RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-21 Thread Jon Weisberger

 I thought your candidate had already won and been declared AOTD
 months ago.

I hope so, but I figure it's not official until it's on the cover of No
Depression.

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RE: Ricky Lynn Gregg?

1999-04-20 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Ricky Lynn Gregg is coming to a local country bar in a couple
 weeks. Worth checking out?

Country-rocker.  A guy I worked with for a while in an HNC-type band (yet
another Scott Miller) worked with him some, so I listened to a bit of his
stuff a couple of years ago; it didn't leave much of an impression.

And I know you were joking, Dave, but for the benefit of those who are in
Sugar Hill Steve's general vicinity, Tom, Brad and Alice put out a rilly
fine old-time-ish album on Copper Creek last year (my write-up of it is
moldering somewhere in the MoMzine archives), and are definitely worth
catching.

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RE: Ray's tenor harmony man....

1999-04-20 Thread Jon Weisberger

 But if Van was slim, the person I saw in a video dub of old TV footage was
 definitely not him.

As someone already mentioned, Howard appeared in some of the Gannaway films
with Price; he wasn't noticeably chunkier that Ray, at least not then.  Of
course, when I think of "old TV footage," my thoughts naturally turn to the
50s, not 60s; if I remember it, how old can it be? g

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RE: Ray Price Harmonyr

1999-04-20 Thread Jon Weisberger

 The harmony singer on 'wasted words', and some others from the same
 recording session is Ira Louvin.

True enough, but that was before the cuts in question; that session was
6/22/56, whereas the songs in question are mostly from later (though "Crazy
Arms" was from just before, 3/1/56) on, 1957-1962 on the particular disc
asked about.

If memory serves me, Earl Scruggs also appeared on a Price cut or two,
though not singing harmony g.

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RE: Who are these people

1999-04-20 Thread Jon Weisberger

 1 pm: Mark Wills

Earnest young feller.  Did "Don't Laugh At Me" that Matt Benz thought was
sucky and I rilly dug; current hit is a pretty vacuous number called "Wish
You Were Here."  If he has any staying power, it has yet to reveal itself.

 3: Kenny Chesney

I like Chesney pretty well, mostly because his voice is so unremediably
country g.  He's a graduate of the ETSU music program, right, Rob?  Rumor
has it that he made his first demos with ETSU bluegrassers like Tim
Stafford.  His new album is pretty so-so, but the last one was pretty good,
with a stone country number called "From Hillbilly Heaven To Honky Tonk
Hell" with George Jones  Tracy Lawrence guesting, a great Tony Joe White
song ("Steamy Windows") and an AA (as in Alcoholics Anonymous) anthem called
"That's Why I'm Here," among others.  I'd be interested to hear about his
show, which I suspect is better than his albums.

 6: Tim McGraw

Mega-platinum New Country star.  He's done some really awful stuff (can you
say "It's Your Love"?), but has also turned out some pretty decent singles
like "Just To See You Smile."  I suspect his show is pretty bad, but maybe
I'm unduly pessimistic.

Don't forget about George, though.  He rules, even if he is just a pawn of
the Nashville machine.

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RE: Mandy B

1999-04-20 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Americana ain't happening until it can
 cross artists like Mandy and the Derailers over to other formats. We've
 been through this before. Americana won't be a REAL format until it has
 quite a few  influential major market stations playing the music
 24-7.

Let's see.  It ain't a REAL format until it has a bunch of major market
stations playing the music 24/7, but it ain't happening until it's a minor
league of farm teams for other formats.  If there's some logic or
consistency to those views, it's pretty well hidden.  FWIW, my vote's for
the real-when-it-has-big-stations-24/7 one, though even that has some
weaknesses, as evidenced by the occasional disparity between airplay and
album sales (like, f'r instance, of The Mountain, or What I Deserve, or Trio
II).

As Tiffany pointed out, being on a "non-Nashville" label is the least of
Barnett's problems when it comes to country radio, which is not synonymous
with Nashville, or even the "Nashville machine"; the geographical
knee-jerking gets really tiresome.  Country radio isn't based in Nashville,
and neither are the consultants who are shaping programming decisions.  It
doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the "Nashville machine" has put
out some great country music that hasn't been able to break country radio
(The Key has generated fewer Top 10 singles than any of Gill's previous MCA
albums, to take only one obvious, familiar example), it just takes someone
with normal knees.

BTW, can someone refresh my memory as to which cut from I've Got A Right To
Cry was the first single/video shipped to country radio, CMT, etc.?

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RE: Der Bingle

1999-04-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

I'm with brother Cantwell on this, have been ever since Merle Haggard cited
Der Bingle as one of the most influential singers in the history of country
music and one of his favoritest.

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RE: Ghost Riders

1999-04-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

"Ghost Riders" it was, and unpopular though I know this will be, I'd rather
listen all day to Brooks  Dunn singing it than listen a second time to
Bruce Springsteen turn "Give My Love To Rose" into some kind of sensitive
dirge.  But that's just me.

I wish I'd seen more of that show, or at least Marty Stuart.  Marty was on
the Opry Saturday night and sounded great.

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AOTD again

1999-04-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

So, I caught the AOTD's 15-minute portion of the second show on the Opry
Saturday night, and what he did was, he came out with just his guitar and
sang a Guy Clark song, then introduced unscheduled guest Guy Clark, who sang
one of his songs with Jamie Hartford backing him, and then the 3 of them did
another one of his songs, and that was it.  Good music, and a very classy
move.

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Dallas/Ft. Worth info needed

1999-04-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

I've got a friend who's going to be traveling to DFW and is looking for some
info about where to stay, etc., so anyone there willing to share, please
contact me off-list.

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RE: Margaret Ann Rich song

1999-04-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

Linda:

... I can only remember that Hazel Dickens song that Deanna
Varagona and Kelly Hogan sang.

Which was...?

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RE: Hazel Dickens song

1999-04-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Jon Weisberger asks "Which one?" and of course, he has to tell me
 -- if it isn't called "My Better Years" at least that's the way I
 remember it.

That's what it's called.  The Johnson Mountain Boys did a great version of
it.

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RE: Not so Slowly

1999-04-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Is Jimmy Martin's version of "Slowly" available on CD?

As far as I know, only on the Bear Family set, making it one of 146 reasons
to cough up for it (147 if you count the excellent booklet).

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RE: help: trying to get stories straight

1999-04-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Any one recall Shania Twain re-recording or remixing "Still the
 One" for pop
 airplay? Something about deleting the fiddles or so?

I have a real vague recollection of this - vague enough that I'm not sure
whether it's at all accurate.

 Plus, I seem
 to recall
 the Dixie Chicks being asked to make some sort of similar
 compromise to be on
 some TV show but refused?

This one is a definite; it appeared in print in at least one place, maybe
Country Music magazine.  The culprit here was VH-1, which wanted a
fiddle-less version of one of their videos.

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RE: help: trying to get stories straight

1999-04-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

Louise says:

 What? you mean the original You're Still The One has fiddle on it? The one
 released in the UK for the pop audiences has organ and guitar,
 but no fiddle.

Same as the album cut then; there's steel on it (Bruce Bouton), and mandolin
(Eric Silver), but no fiddle credit.

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RE: help: trying to get stories straight

1999-04-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

From the 3/1/99 Blue Chip Report:

 The rumble is that VH1 wanted to play The Dixie Chicks' "Wide Open
Spaces", but wanted to edit out the fiddle parts.  The group refused.
 Guess the banjo didn't bother them.

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Cincinnati content (was: RE: More on Ray Mason tribute)

1999-04-17 Thread Jon Weisberger

Linda quotes Tar Hut:

...heavy-hitter names such as the Ass Ponys...

Which reminds me to mention that Prospect Hill will be playing at
Cincinnati's Barrelhouse on 4/30 with said Ass Ponys.  Should be fun.

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RE: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s

1999-04-16 Thread Jon Weisberger

  Just for the heck of it, I thought I'd make up a list of criminally
  underappreciated country and bluegrass albums of the '90s: 

 Jon, wouldn't some people article that practically by definition,
 bluegrass albums are underappreciated?

Well, sure, but we're talking *criminally* underappreciated here, and
besides, as a number of folks have asked, what the hell does
underappreciated mean, anyhow?  I'm taking it to mean underappreciated by
otherwise savvy, tasteful folks such as the ones on this here list coff,
gag.

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RE: Hank Big Mon collaboration?

1999-04-16 Thread Jon Weisberger

 This is presumably the song that Muleskinner (Richard Greene, Peter
 Rowan, David Grisman, Clarence White, Bill Keith - plenty of Big Mon
 alumni there) recorded as Blue And Lonesome.  If so, any idea it would
 be credited to Walter Jacobs on the record?

I suspect that's the product of sloppiness at several points in the process
of putting the album together:

Grisman (or Rowan, or...) to Sierra gofer:  "That one's called 'I'm Blue And
Lonesome'"

Sierra gofer to PRO gofer: "I need the writer/publisher credit for 'Blue And
Lonesome.'"

PRO gofer:  "Here you go.  Walter Jacobs."

One of the side effects of putting the BMI and ASCAP databases online is
that everyone can see for themselves just how messy they are...

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RE: Hank Big Mon collaboration?

1999-04-16 Thread Jon Weisberger

Jim Nelson says:

 I suspect that's the product of sloppiness at several points
 in the process of putting the album together:

 Grisman (or Rowan, or...) to Sierra gofer:  "That one's called
 'I'm Blue And Lonesome'"

 Well, if you're right, it started before that, because the record
 was originally issued on Warner Brothers way back in '73 or '74
 with the same credits.  You'd think that a company with the
 resources of WB might get it right, right?

I did not know, or didn't remember, the original issuer, but IMO that it was
a major makes this theory even more likely, because it's even less likely
that an early-70s vintage WB flunky would know a Bill Monroe tune from a
Little Walter one g.

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RE: Hank Big Mon collaboration?

1999-04-15 Thread Jon Weisberger

 I'm about halfway thru Colin Escott's excellent Hank book and am
 intrigued by his mentioning a song that Hank and Bill Monroe wrote
 together. Since I don't have the book, I can't rememeber the name
 or the exact credit (credited to Ferlin B. Smith or some such), but
 I'd never heard this before. Anyone have any more info about this?

That's "I'm Blue, I'm Lonesome," credited to James B. Smith; Monroe, at
least, used a number of pseudonyms, including Joe Ahr and Albert Price.
Monroe recorded it on 2/3/50, with Jimmy Martin, Rudy Lyle on banjo, Joel
Price on bass and Vassar Clements on the fiddle.  Alison Krauss and Dan
Tyminski did an absolutely stunning version of the song on the Prime Time
Country episode devoted to Monroe that was aired shortly after he passed
away.

"I worked 21 days with Bill, with Little Jimmy Dickens, got to ride the bus
and sing with Hank Williams.  Well, Hank sung a song about the lonesome sigh
of a train going by, I’m blue, I’m lonesome too.  And I learnt that lonesome
touch from Hank Williams, I said to myself, I’m going to put a little Hank
in his own song.  And when Bill sang tenor, Bill would say, well, put as of
that break in your voice like that and I’ll put it in mine, you see." --
Jimmy Martin

It seems like I heard somewhere that Williams wrote the verse and Monroe
wrote the bridge, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

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RE: Question: Lap Steel by Analogy

1999-04-15 Thread Jon Weisberger

 As far as a Twin Reverb goes, that should be a great amp for
 steel.  Here's what Jerry Byrd has to say about it in the book
 "The Hawaiian Steel Guitar and Its Great Hawaiian Musicians"
 (edited by Lorene Ruymar, published by Centerstream Press):

Well, of course, just as soon as I read this paragraph I hustled over to
amazon.com, pulled up this book's entry, and in addition to a fine review
from some guy named Bechtel, I found this, which tickled my funnybone:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: 184,595

I guess that puts it a couple of notches shy of the best-seller list...

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Rhonda again

1999-04-15 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Never thought I'd say this, but boy, I wish I had TV!  Who did
 Rhonda Vincent play with on TNN?

The bluegrass half of last night's "Bluegrass And Western Swing" episode of
Century Of Country had little lead-in segments of a couple of different
lineups of folks who were interviewed during the body of the show;
collectively, it was Rhonda on fiddle, Mike Bub (Del McCoury Band) on bass,
Del on guitar, Ralph Stanley on banjo, Ralph Stanley II on guitar, Rob
McCoury on banjo (? I think I caught a glimpse of him on the Flatt  Scruggs
number), Ronnie McCoury, Chris Thile and Ricky Skaggs on mandolins.  They
sang a spasm or two of a couple of numbers; "Hallelujah, I'm Ready" was one,
and I'd have to go to the tape for the others.  Altogether, it might have
added up to a minute's worth of air time, not much more.

I've just been handed this update: it appears that her new album will be out
in the early fall.  Subject to change, etc.

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RE: Mandy Barnet, again

1999-04-15 Thread Jon Weisberger

Allen says:

 Jon Weisberger:
 I think Barnett's got a deeper affinity for the Bradley/Patsy Cline sound
 than lang did.
 Well, this is probably due to Barnett's stage experience. There's also the
 simple reason of  how geography affects a singer's vowels sounds.

Well, sure; it's certainly not surprising that someone who sang Patsy Cline
songs for a couple of hours a night for a couple of years would have
internalized her sound more than someone who didn't g.

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RE: Kiss Kiss Hug Hug

1999-04-15 Thread Jon Weisberger

Sez Kelly:

 Sez Purcell

 
  Kentucky is much prettier than England this time of year, pally. 
 

 Sez Neal
 I'm not concerned about my status of "cool" when the arbiter is
 some guy in living across the river from Cincy, Ohio, of all places.


 Brother, if you ain't been there, you don't know.


You go, girl.  Neal thinks Purcell's being the arbiter, but he's not; he's
just the messenger.  Life Itself makes the call.

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RE: Clip: Margasak on Ketchum

1999-04-15 Thread Jon Weisberger

 "You can be too country for country radio," declares Hal Ketchum...

Which is certainly true enough, but anyone who concludes from this that
Ketchum himself is too country for country radio is making a mistake.

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FW: Daybreak In Dixie Live On The Net!

1999-04-15 Thread Jon Weisberger


-Original Message-
From: IBMA Members Discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David
Blakney
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 7:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "Daybreak In Dixie" Live On The Net!


"Daybreak In Dixie" is live on the net every Sunday morning, 8:00 to 10:00
Eastern Standard Time, from the University of Windsor, Windsor, Ontario,
Canada.  "Tune In" at http://www.uwindsor.ca/~cjam and
enjoy two hours of bluegrass music with a halfhour bluegrass gospel segment
starting at 9:00 am.

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USA: 68074 Rosewood Lane, Richmond,
Michigan 48062



Mandy Barnett and the sidemen thread

1999-04-14 Thread Jon Weisberger

Picked up Barnett's album this morning, and aside from having some fun
trying to figure out which of the songs I don't know are old and which are
new, I notice that the sidemen appearing thereupon include Harold Bradley,
Pig Robbins, Buddy Emmons, Hal Rugg and Buddy Harman.  Now, these guys are
legends for a reason, and they're still active, appearing on a 1999 release
(and Robbins and Emmons, at least, have been working steadily, albeit not
very frequently, throughout the 90s, appearing on albums by folks like Mark
Chesnutt, Patty Loveless, et.al.).  So how the hell are you going to come up
with a list of top sidemen that doesn't include them, unless you come up
with some limiting criteria (like, f'r instance, top sidemen under 60 years
old, or touring, or alt.country, whatever that means, or)?  For crying
out loud, no disrespect to Lloyd Maines or any of the other fine steel
players mentioned in Monday's thread, but we're talking about BUDDY EMMONS
here, not to mention the others.

BTW, Barnett's version of "Falling, Falling, Falling" nicely splits the
difference between the original record and Doyle Lawson's 1994 remake (on
Never Walk Away), with steel guitar *and* mandolin and banjo.

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RE: Question: Lap Steel by Analogy

1999-04-14 Thread Jon Weisberger

Assuming that lap steel = non-pedal steel (as opposed to literally and
exclusively a little bitty guitar that sits face up on your lap), Leon
McAuliffe and Don Helms are pretty obvious choices for guys who mostly
played pretty simple stuff that's nevertheless right on the money, and I'd
add Kayton Roberts, who worked with Hank Snow for many years, and Little Roy
Wiggins, Eddy Arnold's steel player, both of whom are also pretty
minimalist.  Of these, I believe only Wiggins played an actual lap steel,
and I'm not even sure about him g.

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Come And Go, Molly Snow (was:RE: Devil's Dream (WAS: Cold Mountain))

1999-04-14 Thread Jon Weisberger

Kelly's post reminded me to mention my favorite novel about country-type
music, specifically bluegrass.  Written by Mary Ann Taylor-Hall, Come And
Go, Molly Snow is a story about a young woman fiddler struggling to
reconcile herself to the accidental death of her daughter; it's got some of
the best writing about the experience of playing bluegrass I've ever read.
I believe it's out in paperback now...

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RE: weird Muzak experiences

1999-04-14 Thread Jon Weisberger


 We have a pal named Beth Neilson Chapman who has some really great
 albums out on WBs and for some reason every single time I go to the
 grocery store here in Austin I hear Beth on the dang Muzak.

Heh, I hear one or another of her songs (though not her records) about every
time I get in the car and turn on the radio g.

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RE: Warning: Bass Guitar question!

1999-04-14 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Ok, I have this great old Gibson EBO short-scale bass that I am very
 comfortable with, played for years, except the dang thing doesn't tune
 very well and it has that short-scale kind of "thump" sound instead of a
 long sustain and high end like a P-Bass. Has anybody ever successfully
 fixed a short scale Gibson so it will tune?

Not that I know of.  I played an EB3 for about 5 years and gave up.

 And secondly, if I do decide to get a P-Bass or copy thereof, which ones
 are good and which ones suck? Mexican P-Basses any good? Peavey? Yamaha?

The Mexican Precisions are, IMO, as good as or better than anyone else's
knockoffs at that price range ($300 or less); the biggest gotcha I've heard
about with them is that the pickups and routing for them are slightly
different than the old Ps and the new American Standards and up, so that you
might have a problem putting in aftermarket replacements (it's apparently
not impossible, but it might be more complicated than you would want to
DIY).  Still, I know a bunch of folks who play them, and have yet to hear of
any problems.  Personally, I love my '96 American Standard, which when I
bought it new ran around $650.  Quality workmanship, you can go
string-thru-body, and most germane to the tuning issue, and most importantly
in terms of your EB0 complaint, it has a graphite reinforcement in the neck
that makes it rilly solid.  The only time I have to retune the durn thing is
if someone (like, for instance, me) bumps into one of the tuning machines; I
have taken it from a frigid, dry, air-conditioned room out into 90+ temps w/
high humidity without having to retune, and have gone literally weeks at a
time without its going out.

Anyhow, I'm not one of those "gotta be a Fender" types, especially once you
get more exotic than a Precision, but for a basic bass, the P is awfully
hard to beat, and you really can spend about as little - or as much - as you
want.

 Might as well do this off-list, I'm sure this is ultra boring to
 non-players.

Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g.

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RE: Clip: Jon Randall leaves Asylum

1999-04-13 Thread Jon Weisberger

 No Asylum For Country Singer Jon Randall

Jeez, there's a guy who just can't win for losing.  "Cold Coffee Morning" is
a good cut, and there are a couple of other fine things on the album.  He
also did a solid job playing the guitar on (birthday boy) Sam Bush's last
album, Howlin' At The Moon...

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Web capo museum

1999-04-13 Thread Jon Weisberger

No lie, it's at http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86505074/capomuseum/index.htm .

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RE: Asylum Street Spankers looking for musicians

1999-04-13 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Interested musicians must be incredibly badass.  In fact, unless you have
 chops to burn, don't bother.

Gee, and here I thought that feeling would have to be the number one
qualification

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RE: [hillbilly] Workin' Man Blues (book) and Western Swing book

1999-04-13 Thread Jon Weisberger


 On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Barry Mazor wrote:

  ...the
  book "The Jazz of the Southwest: An Oral History of Western Swing" by
  Jean A. Boydhas much to say about how Western
  Swing is jazz at its root, underappreciated jazz, and maybe underplays
  the country side in saying so...

 And the book was panned for doing just that by some western swing expert
 (Kevin Coffey? Cary Ginell?) in a recent issue of (I think) the Journal Of
 Country Music.

Coffey, in the most recent issue.

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RE: Rhonda Vincent and the Rage

1999-04-13 Thread Jon Weisberger

Oh, boy, a chance to talk about one of my favorite girl singers.

 Hey folks, I just saw Rhonda Vincent and the Rage with Ron Spears, Ron
 Stewart, Steve Sutton and I forget the bass player.

That's Randy Barnes, from down around London, KY.  Ronnie Stewart isn't a
regular member of the band, or at least wasn't last time I knew (2 weeks ago
or so); he's been working for Lynn Morris for a while, playing mostly banjo.
Talented guy...

 I love Rhonda's voice and how she sings with Ron is killer!!  History
 please?!?  I have two of her CD's, Yesterday and Today and The Sally
 Mountain Show, but I would like more of her progressive stuff.

The notes to Yesterday and Today give a history of sorts, at least of the
Sally Mountain Show.  I'm assuming the CD reference is to Bound For
Gloryland, their last album for Rebel.  She did 3 solo albums for Rebel
before that: New Dreams And Sunshine, A Dream Come True and Timeless And
True Love.  They're all outstanding, with a mix of pretty straightforward
bluegrass (though nothing quite as hard-driving as what the Rage is doing
these days) and country stuff, with pedal steel, piano, drums, etc.; if I
had to rank them, I'd say New Dreams and Timeless And True are just a hair
ahead of A Dream Come True, but just by a hair.  All of them are well worth
having.

Rhonda also made two contemporary country albums for BNA in 1994 and 1996.
Written In The Stars has some great material and some good pickers, but the
production isn't especially sympathetic, and it drags down the whole thing
(that's not just my opinion, but hers as well).  Trouble Free, the second
one, is a dandy album unless you have a real kneejerk reaction to
"Nashvegas."  The songs are very strong, the picking is great, and the
singing is just awesome, mostly Rhonda and her brother Darrin, who's in
Ricky Skaggs' band.  There's also a real solid duet with Randy Travis, and
Alison Krauss and Dolly Parton both make appearances.  For what it's worth,
Trouble Free barely snuck onto the P2 Best Of 1996 list, coming in at #39
(out of 47).  It may be hard to find, but it's well worth looking for.

Also worth searching out, in my opinion (though not that of most P2ers who
know the album, I think), is Harley Allen's Another River (Mercury, 1997).
It's another case of bad production sabotaging good material and good
singing, but even more so than with Written In The Stars; nevertheless,
Rhonda sings harmony on just about the whole thing, and she and Harley sound
awfully good together.

Rhonda's got a web page at http://www.nemr.net/~rhondav/ , which she's
pretty good about keeping updated, and Julie Yocum has a page on Rhonda at
http://www.vicon.net/~juliay/Rhonda.html .

Finally, there'll be an article on Rhonda appearing in Bluegrass Unlimited
sometime this summer; I'm turning it in by the end of this month, so look
for it in July or August.

Oh, almost forgot: Ron Spears is a good songwriter from up in Utah who has a
solo album due out any day now on the Copper Creek label; it's pretty good,
and has some great fiddling from Jimmy Van Cleve, who worked briefly with
Rambler's Choice (he's on their debut Rounder CD) and Doyle Lawson before
landing with Mountain Heart.  Other guests include Dan Tyminski, Lou Reid
and a bunch more I can't remember at the moment.

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RE: Ralph Stanley on TNN

1999-04-13 Thread Jon Weisberger

   Anyway, quick question; at one point in the show Marty Stuart said
 something about neither of the Stanley Bros being in the Country
 Music Hall of Fame (or the Songwriters Hall of Fame)?  True?

That's correct.  Monroe is, and Flatt  Scruggs, and I believe that's it as
far as bluegrass goes.

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RE: Ralph Stanley on TNN

1999-04-13 Thread Jon Weisberger

 It might be broadcast again between midnight and 2 am again
 EST.  Actually might be midnight.

They don't usually rebroadcast what's run in the 7-8 (Central) slot in the
11-1 (Central) block, but they generally recycle those Life And Times shows,
so keep your eyes open.

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RE: SOTD (was re: Wilco)

1999-04-12 Thread Jon Weisberger

Sorry to be dense about this g, but are you talking about studio
musicians, or folks who have toured with various acts, or both?  If the idea
is to include the former, exclusively or otherwise, then it seems to me
you'd have to start with Paul Franklin, Brent Mason, Stuart Duncan and maybe
Rob Hajacos.

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RE: Crazy Cajun Series

1999-04-12 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Is there a website for this Collector Choice catalog?

http://www.ccmusic.com/

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RE: Time for a crackdown

1999-04-11 Thread Jon Weisberger

 np I gave the cable 31-channel music channel's "Classic Country" station
 another try, and what did I get? Merle's "The Bottle Let Me Down." And
 then downhill from there, with Sylvia, Alabama, Steve Wariner, Lee
 Greenwood, etc. Switched to the Big Band station, and got Benny Goodman,
 Woody Herman, Duke Ellington, Dorsey/Sinatra. I'm thinking the best of
 country, vintage 70s and 80s, doesn't hold a candle to the best of Big
 Band, 40s, early 50s. Unfair comparison, I know.

It's an unfair comparison because Sylvia and Lee Greenwood don't have the
same connection to the best of 70s/80s country that Goodman, et. al. bear to
40s/50s big band.  OK, Alabama and Wariner don't, either, but they're not
nearly as bad as the other two.  The best of 70s and 80s country, just going
from Top 40 charting at Billboard, would be Conway Twitty, Merle Haggard,
Charley Pride, Willie Nelson, Loretta Lynn, Mel Tillis, George Strait, Tom
T. Hall, Ricky Skaggs, Don Williams, Dolly Parton, Waylon Jennings, Johnny
Rodriguez and a hell of a lot more other good folks who did better than
Greenwood, who was #25 for the 80s, or Sylvia, who doesn't appear in the top
25 by decade at all.  Yeah, Alabama, and Kenny Rogers, and some other pretty
yucky stuff is there, too (though having acquired the Alabama #1s collection
recently I'm ready to give them another listen), but if you're not hearing
those folks on that station, you're not hearing the best of country, vintage
70s and 80s.

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RE: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-11 Thread Jon Weisberger

 At 08:13 AM 4/11/1999 Mike Hays wrote:
  b.s.
  n.p. Marty Brown WILD KENTUCKY SKIES
 Weird, I had a listener call and request Marty Friday morning.  In
 particular, anything from that CD.

 It's funny, because I've looked for that record for ages and couldn't find
 it, used even. Wasting time before I spent my afternoon mowing yards
 yesterday (don't you love Spring?g) I was at a local drug/discount store
 and found a "new" shrinkwrapped copy for $4.99. One of those happy
 record-geek moments.

 Marty's great. I know from sad experience that his last one, HERE'S TO THE
 HONKY-TONKS, was not up to his high standard...

One of those counter-conventional wisdom sorts of things, as that was made
for a roots-oriented indie, while his earlier, generally better albums were
made for MCA, several with Tony "Schizo" Brown producing/co-producing.

Don't I recall having seen that he had some fairly recent law type troubles?

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RE: Chicago Calendar returns with a vengeance!

1999-04-11 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Special days copped from Heather's Li'l Country Calendar,
 available for $10
 from The Record Roundup, 2034 W. Montrose

Geez, Linda, I hope you're just selecting a few things from that calendar,
because there are a bunch of important dates not included in your listing,
like for instance the AOTD's birthday tomorrow, 4/12; I played a bunch of
his bluegrass stuff on my show last night to celebrate.  Sam Bush's birthday
is the 13th, Loretta Lynn's is the 14th, Bob Luman's and Roy Clark's are on
the 15th, and the 17th marks the anniversary of the passing of both Eddie
Cochran and Hank Penny.

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RE: Crazy Cajun (was Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.)

1999-04-11 Thread Jon Weisberger

...the guy in Cincinnati who had James Brown et al.

Syd Nathan, inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame not too long ago.

"You know, everybody told us he was really a bear cat, but we never had
anybody to treat us any better than Syd Nathan."  - Ralph Stanley

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RE: Chesnutt (was RE: Stephen Bruton's new one

1999-04-09 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Don writes: I was thinkin' that he seems to bear more than a passing
 resemblance to you.

 I want some of what you've been smokin', bub. You forget, there are a few
 people on this list that know what I look like. g I've heard many
 comparisons, but never to ol' chipmunk cheeks. sheesh.

So you say, Jim, but http://www.wavetech.net/%7eswedberg/inebr1.jpg fairly
shouts "separated at birth."

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