mailing lists software ?

2011-09-16 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

We are moving our old LISTSERV server after 15 years of very good
services :-)

Lsoft prices have grown up amazingly so I plan to use open source
software to replace it ...

I would like to have feedbacks from lists managers that use Postfix
we have approx 100 lists most of them are internals.

Thank you



Re: mailing lists software ?

2011-09-16 Thread Mark Goodge

On 16/09/2011 08:18, Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

We are moving our old LISTSERV server after 15 years of very good
services :-)

Lsoft prices have grown up amazingly so I plan to use open source
software to replace it ...

I would like to have feedbacks from lists managers that use Postfix
we have approx 100 lists most of them are internals.


Mailman. It just plain works.

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SV: mailing lists software ?

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Sørensen
Hi,

We use mailman along with postfix and  that  is truly a stable and good 
solution and then it's free :-)

regards

Peter

Fra: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] P#229; 
vegne af Frank Bonnet [f.bon...@esiee.fr]
Sendt: 16. september 2011 09:18
Til: Postfix users
Emne: mailing lists software ?

Hello

We are moving our old LISTSERV server after 15 years of very good
services :-)

Lsoft prices have grown up amazingly so I plan to use open source
software to replace it ...

I would like to have feedbacks from lists managers that use Postfix
we have approx 100 lists most of them are internals.

Thank you



Re: mailing lists software ?

2011-09-16 Thread Porch Phillip


 Hello
 
 We are moving our old LISTSERV server after 15 years of very good
 services :-)
 
 Lsoft prices have grown up amazingly so I plan to use open source
 software to replace it ...
 
 I would like to have feedbacks from lists managers that use Postfix
 we have approx 100 lists most of them are internals.
 
 Thank you
 
I have been using postfix with mailman without any problems. 


Re: mailing lists software ?

2011-09-16 Thread Dennis Carr
Throwing one more in for Mailman.

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Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:

Hello

We are moving our old LISTSERV server after 15 years of very good
services :-)

Lsoft prices have grown up amazingly so I plan to use open source
software to replace it ...

I would like to have feedbacks from lists managers that use Postfix
we have approx 100 lists most of them are internals.

Thank you




Re: mailing lists software ?

2011-09-16 Thread Claudio Prono


Il 16/09/2011 9.18, Frank Bonnet ha scritto:
 Hello

 We are moving our old LISTSERV server after 15 years of very good
 services :-)

 Lsoft prices have grown up amazingly so I plan to use open source
 software to replace it ...

 I would like to have feedbacks from lists managers that use Postfix
 we have approx 100 lists most of them are internals.

 Thank you

I use mlmmj (http://mlmmj.org/) without any problem. I like his
semplicity and low requirements.

Bye,

Claudio.

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Re: problem telnet 25 with ipv6

2011-09-16 Thread m...@smtp.fakessh.eu
Le vendredi 16 septembre 2011 00:12, mouss a écrit :
 Le 15/09/2011 03:34, m...@smtp.fakessh.eu a écrit :
  hello list
  hello guru of postfix
 
 
  I think I have correctly configure bind for IPv6. but I still can not
  connect with telnet on my server
 
  all testimonials are welcome

 well, it is hard or us to see what bind have to do with can not
 connect. bind is about names. connection is about IP. different beasts.

 you need to tell us more. what can not connect exactly means? show
 transcripts and logs.

mouss thank you. 
I precise I did not fit ipv6 in my apartment 
I see you in my ipv6 traffic logs (logwatch, xtail)
my ns secondary servers are not connected with ipv6 but one that has serious 
problems with the serial refresh of the zone
ie it is always late for several days or weeks
I have yet properly declare a reverse zone  ipv6 and  in my area
so I do not know if traceroute -6 ping6 and runs on my server
so 
[*@localhost ~]$ host -t  fakessh.eu
fakessh.eu has IPv6 address 2002::5762:bae8
[**@localhost ~]$ host -t  fakessh.eu 8.8.8.8
Using domain server:
Name: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53
Aliases:

fakessh.eu has IPv6 address 2002::5762:bae8

since my command line r13151 telnet down with no trace in maillog
and trace in message
Sep 16 16:42:02 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=94.23.60.251 LEN=194 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=UDP SPT=57165 DPT=6184 LEN=174
Sep 16 16:42:18 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:net2fw:ACCEPT:IN=eth0 OUT= 
MAC=00:1c:c0:c4:d9:8a:00:24:c3:84:04:00:08:00 SRC=217.119.181.42 
DST=87.98.186.232 LEN=67 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=56 ID=28172 PROTO=UDP 
SPT=18611 DPT=53 LEN=47
Sep 16 16:42:49 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:net2fw:ACCEPT:IN=eth0 OUT= 
MAC=00:1c:c0:c4:d9:8a:00:24:c3:84:04:00:08:00 SRC=86.201.250.73 
DST=87.98.186.232 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=65252 DF PROTO=TCP 
SPT=48400 DPT=443 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Sep 16 16:42:49 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=lo 
SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=22497 DF 
PROTO=TCP SPT=41141 DPT=993 WINDOW=32792 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Sep 16 16:42:49 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:net2fw:ACCEPT:IN=lo OUT= 
MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 
LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=22497 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=41141 DPT=993 
WINDOW=32792 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Sep 16 16:42:58 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=213.186.33.99 LEN=76 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=UDP SPT=123 DPT=123 LEN=56
Sep 16 16:43:01 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=94.23.60.251 LEN=211 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=UDP SPT=57131 DPT=6154 LEN=191
Sep 16 16:43:01 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=94.23.60.251 LEN=217 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=UDP SPT=34630 DPT=6183 LEN=197
Sep 16 16:43:01 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=94.23.60.251 LEN=223 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=UDP SPT=39287 DPT=6113 LEN=203
Sep 16 16:43:01 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=94.23.60.251 LEN=194 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=UDP SPT=45924 DPT=6109 LEN=174
Sep 16 16:43:27 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=213.186.33.99 LEN=118 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=62932 
DF PROTO=UDP SPT=38974 DPT=53 LEN=98
Sep 16 16:43:27 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=2001:41d0:0002:3dd6:::: 
DST=2002::::::5762:bae8 LEN=80 TC=0 HOPLIMIT=64 FLOWLBL=0 
PROTO=TCP SPT=60020 DPT=25 WINDOW=5760 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Sep 16 16:43:30 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=2001:41d0:0002:3dd6:::: 
DST=2002::::::5762:bae8 LEN=80 TC=0 HOPLIMIT=64 FLOWLBL=0 
PROTO=TCP SPT=60020 DPT=25 WINDOW=5760 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Sep 16 16:43:31 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:net2fw:ACCEPT:IN=eth0 OUT= 
MAC=00:1c:c0:c4:d9:8a:00:24:c3:84:04:00:08:00 SRC=119.63.196.123 
DST=87.98.186.232 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=50 ID=29933 DF PROTO=TCP 
SPT=39910 DPT=80 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Sep 16 16:43:35 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=213.186.33.99 LEN=63 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=64809 
DF PROTO=UDP SPT=58939 DPT=53 LEN=43
Sep 16 16:43:35 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=213.186.33.99 LEN=71 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=64810 
DF PROTO=UDP SPT=41413 DPT=53 LEN=51
Sep 16 16:43:35 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=213.186.33.99 LEN=63 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=64810 
DF PROTO=UDP SPT=54001 DPT=53 LEN=43
Sep 16 16:43:35 r13151 kernel: Shorewall:fw2net:ACCEPT:IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=94.23.60.214 DST=94.23.155.96 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=53808 
DF PROTO=TCP SPT=39342 DPT=80 

Re: mailing lists software ?

2011-09-16 Thread Miles Fidelman

Frank Bonnet wrote:


We are moving our old LISTSERV server after 15 years of very good
services :-)

Lsoft prices have grown up amazingly so I plan to use open source
software to replace it ...

I would like to have feedbacks from lists managers that use Postfix
we have approx 100 lists most of them are internals.


I'm in a similar context (40 lists, not 100, but mostly internal/closed 
- varying from very small to a couple of 1000 subscribers).


I've had pretty good luck with Sympa (www.sympa.org).  Open source, 
developed and well supported by a consortium of French universities.


Too many years back, when I migrated from majordomo, the choices were 
basically Mailman and Sympa - and at the time Mailman seemed aimed 
mostly at people running small numbers of lists, while Sympa was 
designed specifically for university-scale enterprises with lots of 
lists.  For example, as I recall, Mailman used to treat each list 
completely separately - while Sympa runs off a consolidated subscriber 
database.  It looks like Mailman has evolved considerably since then, 
though.


Sympa has all the right functionality for an enterprise-scale operation, 
and has lots of hooks for customization of message formats, subscription 
approval processes, moderation, etc., etc.  But.. it's also just a bit 
cumbersome to administer (too many tabs to wade through for some 
things).  It's also just a bit tricky to get set up - particularly when 
wiring the pieces together (mail server, database, antivirus, antispam) 
- but not that much more than getting, say, 
postfix+amavisd+spamassassin+clam all wired up.  I would recommend 
installing from source (perl, I think), rather than relying on packaged 
versions (at least on Debian, a few years back, the packages were always 
a couple of revs behind, never quite worked right, and were harder to 
wire together since they tend to put stuff in different places than 
the standard distribution).


Miles Fidelman






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smtpd_restriction_classes access restrictions

2011-09-16 Thread Sergiy Dryga
Hello All!

I have a question about Postfix SMTP server access restrictions, does Postfix 
support smtpd_restriction_classes in smtpd_sender_restrictions?

For a different FROM domains I need to define different rules: from which 
IP-addresses and to which TO domains each of them can send a message. Do 
anybody know how it can be configured?

Thanks!

Sergiy Dryga

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Re: mailing lists software ?

2011-09-16 Thread Charles Marcus

On 2011-09-16 10:47 AM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:

For example, as I recall, Mailman used to treat each list completely
separately - while Sympa runs off a consolidated subscriber database.
It looks like Mailman has evolved considerably since then, though.


Mailman 3, which is not too far away, will fix pretty much all of the 
issues anyone ever had with mailman - it will support real database 
backends for subscribers, and will fully support virtual domains 
natively. One of it's major drawbacks with virtual domains was you 
couldn't (easily) have two lists with the same name for multiple domains.


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Re: smtpd_restriction_classes access restrictions

2011-09-16 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/16/2011 10:01 AM, Sergiy Dryga wrote:

 I have a question about Postfix SMTP server access restrictions,
 does Postfix support “smtpd_restriction_classes” in
 “smtpd_sender_restrictions”?
 

Restriction classes are documented here:
http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html

 For a different “FROM” domains I need to define different rules:
 from which IP-addresses and to which “TO” domains each of themcan
 send a message. Do anybody know how it can be configured?

Examples are included in the documentation.


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Re: Issue integrating with Cyrus-SASL

2011-09-16 Thread Crazedfred
  Crazedfred crazedf...@yahoo.com:
   What is the result of:find / -name smtpd.conf
  
  sudo find / -name smtpd.conf
  /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf

 read the debian documentation!

Could you elaborate?
Am I looking for the wrong file?
That search above was ran at the behest of another user on this list.

The Debian Wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/Postfix) mentions 
/etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/postfix/master.cf, both of which I've been 
editing.


Re: Issue integrating with Cyrus-SASL

2011-09-16 Thread Wietse Venema
Crazedfred:
 ? Crazedfred crazedf...@yahoo.com:
   What is the result of:find / -name smtpd.conf
  
  sudo find / -name smtpd.conf
  /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf

 read the debian documentation!

Could you elaborate?
Am I looking for the wrong file?

I have seen several hints on this mailing list that Debian Postfix
wants to read /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf.

Wietse


Re: Issue integrating with Cyrus-SASL

2011-09-16 Thread John Peach
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:17:13 -0400 (EDT)
Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org wrote:

 Crazedfred:
  ? Crazedfred crazedf...@yahoo.com:
What is the result of:find / -name smtpd.conf
   
   sudo find / -name smtpd.conf
   /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf
 
  read the debian documentation!
 
 Could you elaborate?
 Am I looking for the wrong file?
 
 I have seen several hints on this mailing list that Debian Postfix
 wants to read /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf.

That's exactly where it is on mine.



Re: moving entire postfix queue between machines

2011-09-16 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues

Em 15/09/11 19:16, mouss escreveu:


  in that scenario, is it OK to backup the /var/spool/postfix folder
on the old machine and simply drop it on the new machine ?
please stay with us. you said I do nt have a spare machine then ...
on the nwe machine?? do you mean the new disk?


sorry ... as 'new machine' i meant to say on the 'new OS installed 
on the new disk on the same machine'.





Will that
keep the messages that were on the queue ? Of course, i'll completly
remove the var/spool/postfix on the new machine before doing that, im
not thinking on merging queues in anyway, i just want to get the queue
from the old machine and drop on the new one.

 will that work as expected, or it wont ?


you need to to stop postfix first, then you can copy the queue.


Nice to hear that ... i was already aware that the procedure would 
require postfix to be stopped, no problem on that.


thanks for the advices mouss !




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Re: Issue integrating with Cyrus-SASL

2011-09-16 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Crazedfred crazedf...@yahoo.com:
   Crazedfred crazedf...@yahoo.com:
What is the result of:find / -name smtpd.conf
   
   sudo find / -name smtpd.conf
   /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf
 
  read the debian documentation!
 
 Could you elaborate?
 Am I looking for the wrong file?
 That search above was ran at the behest of another user on this list.
 
 The Debian Wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/Postfix) mentions 
 /etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/postfix/master.cf, both of which I've been 
 editing.

Download and unpack 
http://www.state-of-mind.de/download/saslauthd_script.tar.gz.
Then run:

$ scriptreplay saslauthd.timing saslauthd.session

It will replay a session where I install and configure Cyrus SASL for Postfix
using saslauthd on squeeze.

p@rick

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Re: bcc send map issue - duplication when mail sent from other host

2011-09-16 Thread Jeroen Geilman

On 2011-09-16 04:08, Michael Ribbons wrote:

Hi,
I am using bcc_send_maps


No such option exists. You may be referring to sender_bcc_maps.


so all mail sent by POP


Ugh. Re-check your basics - POP is not a mail SENDING protocol.


is BCC to a particular address.

So all mail from @example.com is BCCd to crm_sys...@example.com

This works fine.

However when we send mail from our webshop, the mail gets BCC'd as 
well, eg


mail from webs...@example.com, mail to: sa...@example.com

I think this is because the first address matches the send map spec of 
@example.com


However I don't want this behaviour - We are also using 
bcc_recipient_maps so everything coming in to @example.com already 
gets copied to crm_sys...@example.com


Again, the option is called recipient_bcc_maps.
And why use both for the same domain ? That sounds suspicously like a 
broken configuration attempt.




Is there any way to tell postfix not to use bcc_send_maps for mail 
sent by other sendmails?


Exclude it.
Map formats and examples are documented clearly.

http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#recipient_bcc_maps
http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#sender_bcc_maps
http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html#overview





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