[pfx] Re: Mails ending up in spam when sending to gmail address

2024-05-15 Thread Peter via Postfix-users

On 16/05/24 11:54, David Mehler via Postfix-users wrote:

Hello,

I'm not sure if this is a Postfix or an Rspamd problem or a Gmail 
problem, the first two I can do something about the third one not so sure.


I'm running a personal E-mail server running on a VPS via a2hosting. I'm 
using Cloudflare for my DNS. I've got Postfix 3.7.11 and Rspamd 3.8.4 
going. All appears well on my end, I've got dns MX, a PTR, SPF, DKIM, 
and DMARC with what I thought was abiding by Google's new email sending 
policy so I could get a message through.


On my side the email is accepted from here, and relayed, Rspamd does 
sign it, and Postfix's last message in the log is a message sent 
delivered, and removed from my queue. I check my test Gmail account, and 
the message is indeed there, but Gmail has placed it in the spam folder. 
I check the headers of said message, an SPF and DKIM both pass.


I am open to suggestions.


It's probably just IP reputation and you need to let it build up with 
google, but see:


https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126


Peter
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[pfx] Mails ending up in spam when sending to gmail address

2024-05-15 Thread David Mehler via Postfix-users

Hello,

I'm not sure if this is a Postfix or an Rspamd problem or a Gmail 
problem, the first two I can do something about the third one not so sure.


I'm running a personal E-mail server running on a VPS via a2hosting. I'm 
using Cloudflare for my DNS. I've got Postfix 3.7.11 and Rspamd 3.8.4 
going. All appears well on my end, I've got dns MX, a PTR, SPF, DKIM, 
and DMARC with what I thought was abiding by Google's new email sending 
policy so I could get a message through.


On my side the email is accepted from here, and relayed, Rspamd does 
sign it, and Postfix's last message in the log is a message sent 
delivered, and removed from my queue. I check my test Gmail account, and 
the message is indeed there, but Gmail has placed it in the spam folder. 
I check the headers of said message, an SPF and DKIM both pass.


I am open to suggestions.

Thanks.
Dave.

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[pfx] Re: IPv6 and RBL checks

2024-05-15 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote in
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 |Jos Chrispijn via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-05-15 11:25:
 |> Can someone explain why bl.spamcop.net reverses the ipv6 ip, thus not
 |> recognizing it like postscreen?

This is the usual way to do reverse lookups.  RFC 1034 from 1987:

   2. Host address to host name translation

  This function will often follow the form of previous
  functions.  Given a 32 bit IP address, the caller wants a
  character string.  The octets of the IP address are reversed,
  used as name components, and suffixed with "IN-ADDR.ARPA".  A
  type PTR query is used to get the RR with the primary name of
  the host.  For example, a request for the host name
  corresponding to IP address 1.2.3.4 looks for PTR RRs for
  domain name "4.3.2.1.IN-ADDR.ARPA".

This was then taken over to IPv6, and got a bit lengthy.

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[pfx] Re: IPv6 and RBL checks

2024-05-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users

On 15.05.24 11:25, Jos Chrispijn via Postfix-users wrote:

Recently I noticed this in my logfile:

0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net: 
Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net 
type=A: Host not found, try again


According to Postfix/postscreen it happens to be the reversed 
notation of the IPv6 sender of the email:
May 11 23:14:27 terra postfix/postscreen[4111]: PASS NEW 
[2607:f8b0:4864:20::930]:43019


Can someone explain why bl.spamcop.net reverses the ipv6 ip, thus 
not recognizing it like postscreen?



Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-05-15 11:29:
This is how DNSBLs work, so you can simple block 2607:f8b0:4864:: by 
defining *.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net


On 15.05.24 12:17, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote:

please no dont do this


Guys,
I am not doing this, I am explaining why is the order reversed.


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[pfx] Re: IPv6 and RBL checks

2024-05-15 Thread Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users

Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-05-15 11:29:

On 15.05.24 11:25, Jos Chrispijn via Postfix-users wrote:

Recently I noticed this in my logfile:

0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net: 
Host or domain name not found. Name service error for 
name=0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net 
type=A: Host not found, try again


According to Postfix/postscreen it happens to be the reversed notation 
of the IPv6 sender of the email:
May 11 23:14:27 terra postfix/postscreen[4111]: PASS NEW 
[2607:f8b0:4864:20::930]:43019


Can someone explain why bl.spamcop.net reverses the ipv6 ip, thus not 
recognizing it like postscreen?


This is how DNSBLs work, so you can simple block 2607:f8b0:4864:: by 
defining *.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net


please no dont do this

google ips is not so much a spam, dont atleast block on false negatives

https://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/2607%3Af8b0%3A4864%3A20%3A%3A930.html

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[pfx] Re: IPv6 and RBL checks

2024-05-15 Thread Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users

Jos Chrispijn via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-05-15 11:25:


Can someone explain why bl.spamcop.net reverses the ipv6 ip, thus not
recognizing it like postscreen?


https://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/2607%3Af8b0%3A4864%3A20%3A%3A930.html

dnsbl must be reversed, not any news there

and note valli.org got ptr right ?

i say you have a local dns resolver problem

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[pfx] Re: IPv6 and RBL checks

2024-05-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users

On 15.05.24 11:25, Jos Chrispijn via Postfix-users wrote:

Recently I noticed this in my logfile:

0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net: 
Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net 
type=A: Host not found, try again


According to Postfix/postscreen it happens to be the reversed notation 
of the IPv6 sender of the email:
May 11 23:14:27 terra postfix/postscreen[4111]: PASS NEW 
[2607:f8b0:4864:20::930]:43019


Can someone explain why bl.spamcop.net reverses the ipv6 ip, thus not 
recognizing it like postscreen?


This is how DNSBLs work, so you can simple block 2607:f8b0:4864:: by defining 
*.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net



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[pfx] IPv6 and RBL checks

2024-05-15 Thread Jos Chrispijn via Postfix-users

Hi all,

Recently I noticed this in my logfile:

0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net: 
Host or domain name not found. Name service error for 
name=0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.bl.spamcop.net 
type=A: Host not found, try again


According to Postfix/postscreen it happens to be the reversed notation 
of the IPv6 sender of the email:
May 11 23:14:27 terra postfix/postscreen[4111]: PASS NEW 
[2607:f8b0:4864:20::930]:43019


Can someone explain why bl.spamcop.net reverses the ipv6 ip, thus not 
recognizing it like postscreen?

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