[pfx] Re: The joke writes itself.
Some of us don't have a choice and are stuck with MS mail products due to work policies. while OWA does now support header filtering, that has not always been the case. Other may be in similar situations with required clients that don't have all the features you want for a power user. I would say that 98% of listservs I have been on for years all use subject tags, and it's never been a problem for me or anyone else on those lists that I've ever heard complain. I frankly didn't know this was even an issue for anyone until now. RobertC From: Markus Reichelt via Postfix-users Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 13:21 To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: [pfx] Re: The joke writes itself. This message is from an External Sender This message came from outside your organization -- * Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users wrote: > * Patrick Ben Koetter via Postfix-users: > > I don't need tags. > Seconded. Do we really need to cater for software that's unable to use > the "List-Id" headers? These are mailing lists for Postfix users and > devs, not for a knitting circle, so I think it is fair to assume we > subscribers all use decent software. +1 ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: The joke writes itself.
I posted about the List-ID changing three days ago, but it seems to have gotten lost in the prefix discussion. for the record, I like list prefixes. It's easier to filter on subject than on headers that may or may not be present from any particular list. I've found one change to the mailing list header I didn't expect, and my mail filter for the list 'broke' on it. The old server had: List-Id: Postfix users The new one has: List-Id: "For discussions about using Postfix: questions, problem reports, or feature requests. Open subscription, unmoderated, posting by members only." (and yes, the new list-id actually has postfix-users.postfix.org, instead of @.) RobertC (ps and before anyone gets mad at me for top-posting replies, take a minute to tell me how to make OWA do that. I can't find any way to change it.) From: Marvin Renich via Postfix-users Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 07:16 To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: [pfx] Re: The joke writes itself. This message is from an External Sender This message came from outside your organization -- * Mal via Postfix-users [230310 03:23]: > > > On 10/03/2023 5:24 pm, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote: > > I was also quite happy with > > no tags at all. > > +1 no tags I wholeheartedly agree. The subject tag hinders, rather than helps, reading list mail. The List-Id provides better functionality than subject tags. And while we're at it, all that extra text in the List-Id is just too much. Can you please shorten it so that the entire header fits in 72 characters? Perhaps something like List-Id: "https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.postfix.org/lists.html__;!!KwNVnqRv!HUEhK5o5tV5OYqDlqPAGQCxr0UIWs4F0DpXiJS7EmY8QLv-001l2fMSdPT0_-DRoefKwoUxzXCDyFiMBmFrR9rLy7Q$ " ...Marvin ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[P-U] Re: Postfix lists are migrating to a new list server
I've found one change to the mailing list header I didn't expect, and my mail filter for the list 'broke' on it. The old server had: List-Id: Postfix users The new one has: List-Id: "For discussions about using Postfix: questions, problem reports, or feature requests. Open subscription, unmoderated, posting by members only." So filtering on List-Id contents didn't work. RobertC From: Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 11:02 To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: [P-U] Re: Postfix lists are migrating to a new list server This message is from an External Sender This message came from outside your organization -- Patrick Ben Koetter via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-03-07 17:16: > I'll let Jörg at sys4 take a look at this. +1 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ARC_INVALID,ARC_SIGNED,AWL, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_MISSING, KAM_SHORT,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 why is arc invalid ? check if using rspamd, does it arc sign incomming mails before mailman breaks dkim ? if rspamd do it right there is no reason to take over mailfrom mangling, even for list owners :/ ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org From: Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 11:02 To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: [P-U] Re: Postfix lists are migrating to a new list server This message is from an External Sender This message came from outside your organization -- Patrick Ben Koetter via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-03-07 17:16: > I'll let Jörg at sys4 take a look at this. +1 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ARC_INVALID,ARC_SIGNED,AWL, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_MISSING, KAM_SHORT,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 why is arc invalid ? check if using rspamd, does it arc sign incomming mails before mailman breaks dkim ? if rspamd do it right there is no reason to take over mailfrom mangling, even for list owners :/ ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org