Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars)

2009-07-22 Thread Noel Jones

Benny Pedersen wrote:

i like to have postfix strip these chars in headers so amavisd does not block 
the mails with bad header, well maybe it kill dkim :/

but is there better options ?

reject and let senders solve it ?



The better option is to configure amavisd-new to accept bad 
headers.  I'm pretty sure amavisd-new accepts bad headers by 
default, but here are some settings you can look for.

# amavisd.conf
$final_bad_header_destiny = D_PASS;
@bypass_header_checks_maps = (1);

You could configure postfix to reject such mail, but then 
you'll lose otherwise legit mail.


  -- Noel Jones


Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars)

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Wed, July 22, 2009 17:50, Noel Jones wrote:
 Benny Pedersen wrote:
 i like to have postfix strip these chars in headers so amavisd does not 
 block the mails with bad header, well maybe it kill dkim
 :/

 but is there better options ?

 reject and let senders solve it ?


 The better option is to configure amavisd-new to accept bad
 headers.

if sender do this, it wont catch there problem

 I'm pretty sure amavisd-new accepts bad headers by
 default, but here are some settings you can look for.

yes, maybe

 # amavisd.conf
 $final_bad_header_destiny = D_PASS;
 @bypass_header_checks_maps = (1);

if i do this my amavisd wont catch my own problem at remote when some send mail 
from my server to another server, chicken and egg
problem to solve

 You could configure postfix to reject such mail, but then
 you'll lose otherwise legit mail.

yes legit problem also

if all accepts, then its no problem :/

-- 
xpoint



Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars)

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Wed, July 22, 2009 21:27, Stefan Förster wrote:
 * Benny Pedersen m...@junc.org wrote:
 On Wed, July 22, 2009 17:50, Noel Jones wrote:
 You could configure postfix to reject such mail, but then
 you'll lose otherwise legit mail.
 yes legit problem also
 This is probably a stupid question, but are those characters really
 allowed in email headers?

rfc strictly no, header need to be 7bit clean, but default postfix accept 8bit

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xpoint



Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars)

2009-07-22 Thread Noel Jones

Stefan Förster wrote:

* Benny Pedersen m...@junc.org wrote:

On Wed, July 22, 2009 17:50, Noel Jones wrote:

You could configure postfix to reject such mail, but then
you'll lose otherwise legit mail.

yes legit problem also


This is probably a stupid question, but are those characters really
allowed in email headers?



No, raw 8 bit characters are not allowed in headers.  They 
must be encoded such as they are in this message.

Subject: Re: postfix strip =?utf-8?B?w6bDuA==?=
=?utf-8?B?w6U=?= (highbit chars)

Most MUA's take care of encoding the headers automatically, 
but it's a common enough problem that blocking mail with 8 bit 
characters in the header is not recommended.


At any rate, unless 8 bit characters in headers are causing 
some specific problem, it's not worth blocking them.


  -- Noel Jones



Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars)

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Wed, July 22, 2009 21:41, Noel Jones wrote:

 At any rate, unless 8 bit characters in headers are causing
 some specific problem, it's not worth blocking them.

back to my first question on how to

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xpoint



Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars)

2009-07-22 Thread Noel Jones

Benny Pedersen wrote:

On Wed, July 22, 2009 21:41, Noel Jones wrote:


At any rate, unless 8 bit characters in headers are causing
some specific problem, it's not worth blocking them.


back to my first question on how to



http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#strict_7bit_headers

  -- Noel Jones


Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars)

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Wed, July 22, 2009 22:00, Noel Jones wrote:
 http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#strict_7bit_headers

if postfix changed defaults to yes, then i belive problematic senders would 
change there problem

php mail() is imho not mime compliant

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xpoint



Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars )

2009-07-22 Thread Sahil Tandon

On Jul 22, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Benny Pedersen m...@junc.org wrote:



On Wed, July 22, 2009 22:00, Noel Jones wrote:

http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#strict_7bit_headers


if postfix changed defaults to yes, then i belive problematic  
senders would change there problem


Oh please.  The functionality exists for you to be strict on this.  By  
all means, go for it.  The rest of us still care about ensuring  
delivery of legitimate mail, however 'broken' it might appear to you. :)


Re: postfix strip æøå (highbit chars)

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Wed, July 22, 2009 22:12, Sahil Tandon wrote:
 On Jul 22, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Benny Pedersen m...@junc.org wrote:


 On Wed, July 22, 2009 22:00, Noel Jones wrote:
 http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#strict_7bit_headers

 if postfix changed defaults to yes, then i belive problematic
 senders would change there problem

 Oh please.  The functionality exists for you to be strict on this.  By
 all means, go for it.  The rest of us still care about ensuring
 delivery of legitimate mail, however 'broken' it might appear to you. :)


its all the same when uribl.com is down and cant handle one more domain ?, 
block localy it will solve all your problem too

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xpoint