automatic email reassembly at reception ?

2010-12-20 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

I'm searching for an automated solution that will split
bigs emails in several parts ( as we do with mpack manually )
then reassemble them at reception.

It would be transparent for the user that would
receive only one big email.


Any infos welcome
Thanks



Re: automatic email reassembly at reception ?

2010-12-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 20 December 2010 13:11:16 Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Hello
 
 I'm searching for an automated solution that will split
 bigs emails in several parts ( as we do with mpack manually )
 then reassemble them at reception.
 
 It would be transparent for the user that would
 receive only one big email.
 
 Any infos welcome
 Thanks

This would only work if you control both end-points.
Otherwise, the other side would still need to do this manually.

Only way I can think of to do this would be to add a mail-filter in the same 
way as amavis is fitted in for mail-scanning that seperates large emails into 
seperate emails and then do the opposite for incoming emails.

You would need to keep an archive locally untill you receive all the seperate 
parts though. They are not guaranteed to arrive in sync. Nor is there any 
guarantee that there will not be other emails delivered in between.

Maybe it would be easier to add something to the mail-client for this?

--
Joost


Re: automatic email reassembly at reception ?

2010-12-20 Thread Frank Bonnet



Thanks for the reply

My purpose is for internals emails use only ! so the control would be OK



On 12/20/2010 01:17 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:

On Monday 20 December 2010 13:11:16 Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

I'm searching for an automated solution that will split
bigs emails in several parts ( as we do with mpack manually )
then reassemble them at reception.

It would be transparent for the user that would
receive only one big email.

Any infos welcome
Thanks

This would only work if you control both end-points.
Otherwise, the other side would still need to do this manually.

Only way I can think of to do this would be to add a mail-filter in the same
way as amavis is fitted in for mail-scanning that seperates large emails into
seperate emails and then do the opposite for incoming emails.

You would need to keep an archive locally untill you receive all the seperate
parts though. They are not guaranteed to arrive in sync. Nor is there any
guarantee that there will not be other emails delivered in between.

Maybe it would be easier to add something to the mail-client for this?

--
Joost



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Re: automatic email reassembly at reception ?

2010-12-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 20 December 2010 13:22:25 Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Thanks for the reply
 
 My purpose is for internals emails use only ! so the control would be OK

If it is for internal email only, why do you want to split up the emails?
If it's because postfix rejects too large emails you can always increase the 
allowed size of these emails to match.

--
Joost

 
 On 12/20/2010 01:17 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
  On Monday 20 December 2010 13:11:16 Frank Bonnet wrote:
  Hello
  
  I'm searching for an automated solution that will split
  bigs emails in several parts ( as we do with mpack manually )
  then reassemble them at reception.
  
  It would be transparent for the user that would
  receive only one big email.
  
  Any infos welcome
  Thanks
  
  This would only work if you control both end-points.
  Otherwise, the other side would still need to do this manually.
  
  Only way I can think of to do this would be to add a mail-filter in the
  same way as amavis is fitted in for mail-scanning that seperates large
  emails into seperate emails and then do the opposite for incoming
  emails.
  
  You would need to keep an archive locally untill you receive all the
  seperate parts though. They are not guaranteed to arrive in sync. Nor is
  there any guarantee that there will not be other emails delivered in
  between.
  
  Maybe it would be easier to add something to the mail-client for this?
  
  --
  Joost


Re: automatic email reassembly at reception ?

2010-12-20 Thread mouss

Le 20/12/2010 13:11, Frank Bonnet a écrit :

Hello

I'm searching for an automated solution that will split
bigs emails in several parts ( as we do with mpack manually )
then reassemble them at reception.

It would be transparent for the user that would
receive only one big email.




Do you mean reassemble then deliver to mailbox? but then downloading 
large files over IMAP or POP is a pain.
also, didn't test, but an anti-virus on the client box won't be happy 
(and these beasts know how to show when they're not happy;-p)


if the problem is at postfix side, simply increase the limit.

a better solution is to use web application that allows users to upload 
files and chose recipients. the application then sends URLs to 
recipients... (of course, files must have expiry dates. lest you provide 
a free storage server!).


if asking users to upload to web server is too much (but really, it's 
better than sending the document via smtp. performances will help 
motivate users), then you could setup a content filter that extracts 
large attachments and replaces them with a URL. (be careful not to mess 
up with the MIME structure...).



or you might be happy if you have clients that support fragmented 
messages (these never really made it, in part because of the security 
risks).


Re: automatic email reassembly at reception ?

2010-12-20 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 01:11:16PM +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:

 I'm searching for an automated solution that will split
 bigs emails in several parts ( as we do with mpack manually )
 then reassemble them at reception.

 It would be transparent for the user that would
 receive only one big email.

Historically, Outlook Express would generate and re-assemble large
messages via message/partial MIME encapsulation.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2046#section-5.2.2

This format is not directly supported by most MUAs and poses some
issues for gateway A/V products, as the pieces don't necessarily
arrive via the same gateway.

-- 
Viktor.


Re: automatic email reassembly at reception ?

2010-12-20 Thread Brad Hards
On Tuesday, December 21, 2010 04:59:16 am Victor Duchovni wrote:
 Historically, Outlook Express would generate and re-assemble large
 messages via message/partial MIME encapsulation.
 
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2046#section-5.2.2
 
 This format is not directly supported by most MUAs and poses some
 issues for gateway A/V products, as the pieces don't necessarily
 arrive via the same gateway.
Microsoft's current implementation guidance (e.g. [MS-OXCMAIL] specification 
Section 4.4) is not to support sending or receiving message/partial.

Brad