Re: owner/mode of dynamicmaps.cf (a bit OT)

2011-05-09 Thread Michael Tokarev
08.05.2011 22:33, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 /etc/postfix/dynamicmaps.cf as provided by Ubuntu/Debian is:
 
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 318 2011-04-22 15:04 /etc/postfix/dynamicmaps.cf
 
 by default. Which programs are using it and when? Before dropping
 privileges? After? Does /usr/sbin/sendmail use it?

Every postfix program that deals with maps/dictionaries uses
this file.  Since all dicts are open as root, it's used before
dropping privileges.

 Yeah, I know. It's a patch.
 
 Just asking if 644 is the ultima ratio or if (under special
 circumstances) something like mode 640, user root, group postfix might
 work as well.

And immediately after that, postfix-start will complain about
wrong permissions of a file in /etc/postfix/.

No, dynamicmaps.cf is very like main.cf or master.cf files.

What special cirsumstances you're talking about?

Thanks,

/mjt


Re: owner/mode of dynamicmaps.cf (a bit OT)

2011-05-09 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 10:10:04PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

  This file contains no secrets, unless you have put some secret
  in the comments.
 
 I was also wondering why somebody would want to somehow hide the
 contents.

Unlikely, since postdrop/postqueue don't run as root, and potentially
use tables, I would expect these to break if the list of dynamically
loadable tables is not world-readable.

-- 
Viktor.


owner/mode of dynamicmaps.cf (a bit OT)

2011-05-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
/etc/postfix/dynamicmaps.cf as provided by Ubuntu/Debian is:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 318 2011-04-22 15:04 /etc/postfix/dynamicmaps.cf

by default. Which programs are using it and when? Before dropping
privileges? After? Does /usr/sbin/sendmail use it?

Yeah, I know. It's a patch.

Just asking if 644 is the ultima ratio or if (under special
circumstances) something like mode 640, user root, group postfix might
work as well.
-- 
Ralf Hildebrandt
  Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk
  Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin
  Campus Benjamin Franklin
  Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin
  Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962
  ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de



Re: owner/mode of dynamicmaps.cf (a bit OT)

2011-05-08 Thread Wietse Venema
Ralf Hildebrandt:
 /etc/postfix/dynamicmaps.cf as provided by Ubuntu/Debian is:
 
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 318 2011-04-22 15:04 /etc/postfix/dynamicmaps.cf
 
 by default. Which programs are using it and when? Before dropping
 privileges? After? Does /usr/sbin/sendmail use it?
 
 Yeah, I know. It's a patch.

/etc/postfix and everything under it must be owned by root and not
writable by anyone else.

dynamicmaps.cf is from Lamont Jones's Debian feature that allows
support for LDAP, *SQL etc. to be added without recompiling Postfix.
However, not all the world is Debian.

As for run-time privileges, Postfix daemons open tables before
dropping privileges.

Postfix commands such as postmap open tables with the privileges
of the user itself (if invoked by root, postmap may decide that
root privileges are too powerful, for example, when a table is
owned by a non-root user).

 Just asking if 644 is the ultima ratio or if (under special
 circumstances) something like mode 640, user root, group postfix might
 work as well.

This file contains no secrets, unless you have put some secret
in the comments.

Wietse


Re: owner/mode of dynamicmaps.cf (a bit OT)

2011-05-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org:

 This file contains no secrets, unless you have put some secret
 in the comments.

I was also wondering why somebody would want to somehow hide the
contents.
-- 
Ralf Hildebrandt
  Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk
  Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin
  Campus Benjamin Franklin
  Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin
  Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962
  ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de