Re: [postgis-users] PostGIS supported by which ArcGIS

2014-10-02 Thread Birgit Laggner
We use ArcGIS 10.2 for read/write interaction with our PostgreSQL 
database. We only have ArcGIS Desktop without SDE. There is a driver 
(database client file) from ArcGIS for PostgreSQL, you have to install. 
We are more or less content with this concept. Surely, the performance 
is not as if you would be working directly on the PostgreSQL database, 
but still, it isn't necessary to always export and import into and from 
shapefile. That's a huge plus in my opinion.


Here is a link to a documentation site of ArcGIS regarding the 
requirements for the interoperability with PostgreSQL:


http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/system-requirements/10.2/index.html#//0151007500

Regards,

Birgit.


Am 27.09.2014 20:28, schrieb Stefan Keller:

Actually yes, I meant the PostGIS option of storing data in
PostgreSQL/PostGIS from ArcGIS.

--S.

2014-09-27 20:20 GMT+02:00 Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com:

as far as I understand it (and I could be wrong on some of this)

Desktop will support reading if you load the postgresql library files (that
can be downloaded form your ESRI customer care portal).
Once those are loaded you can read through a definition query data from
postgis into arcgis. I just made a map using arcgis and reading data from
postgis.
It doesn't support write unless you have SDE for Postgresql - which isn't
postgis. That dives into the world of ArcGIS Server


ArcGIS supposedly is moving to being able to read/write the geopackage
format which to me opens read/write to PostGIS. BUT if they open read write
for postgis that starts a slow death of SDEso I don't believe it ever
will (for the foreseeable future).

Randy




On 09/27/2014 02:10 PM, Stefan Keller wrote:

I'm asked from time to time for an advice which ArcGIS product
supports PostGIS (read/write)?
Even after reading the Esri pages I'm not sure if it's only ArcGIS
for Server Workgroup (formerly ArcSDE).
Does it work also with ArcGIS for Desktop Basic (ArcView)?

Yours, S.
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Re: [postgis-users] PostGIS supported by which ArcGIS

2014-10-02 Thread David Haynes
I have not been able to use Arc 10.3 for visualizing raster data stored in
postgresql

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Birgit Laggner birgit.lagg...@ti.bund.de
wrote:

 We use ArcGIS 10.2 for read/write interaction with our PostgreSQL
 database. We only have ArcGIS Desktop without SDE. There is a driver
 (database client file) from ArcGIS for PostgreSQL, you have to install. We
 are more or less content with this concept. Surely, the performance is not
 as if you would be working directly on the PostgreSQL database, but still,
 it isn't necessary to always export and import into and from shapefile.
 That's a huge plus in my opinion.

 Here is a link to a documentation site of ArcGIS regarding the
 requirements for the interoperability with PostgreSQL:

 http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/system-requirements/10.2/index.html#//
 0151007500

 Regards,

 Birgit.


 Am 27.09.2014 20:28, schrieb Stefan Keller:

  Actually yes, I meant the PostGIS option of storing data in
 PostgreSQL/PostGIS from ArcGIS.

 --S.

 2014-09-27 20:20 GMT+02:00 Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com:

 as far as I understand it (and I could be wrong on some of this)

 Desktop will support reading if you load the postgresql library files
 (that
 can be downloaded form your ESRI customer care portal).
 Once those are loaded you can read through a definition query data from
 postgis into arcgis. I just made a map using arcgis and reading data from
 postgis.
 It doesn't support write unless you have SDE for Postgresql - which isn't
 postgis. That dives into the world of ArcGIS Server


 ArcGIS supposedly is moving to being able to read/write the geopackage
 format which to me opens read/write to PostGIS. BUT if they open read
 write
 for postgis that starts a slow death of SDEso I don't believe it ever
 will (for the foreseeable future).

 Randy




 On 09/27/2014 02:10 PM, Stefan Keller wrote:

 I'm asked from time to time for an advice which ArcGIS product
 supports PostGIS (read/write)?
 Even after reading the Esri pages I'm not sure if it's only ArcGIS
 for Server Workgroup (formerly ArcSDE).
 Does it work also with ArcGIS for Desktop Basic (ArcView)?

 Yours, S.
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Re: [postgis-users] NOTICE: no non-null/empty features, unable to compute statistics

2014-10-02 Thread Paul Ramsey
OK, with the real test data I can reproduce, and the source of the
problem is pretty obvious if not the exact place things are going
wrong yet:

st_astext
-
 POINT ZM (-124.22007 41.75967 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.22 41.78017 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.21508 41.76429 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.2146 41.75716 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.21434 41.75974 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.21069 41.7646 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.20893 41.76469 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.20851 41.99467 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.20777 41.76345 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.20648 41.7782 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.2054 41.7605 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.20423 41.96717 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.20311 41.75043 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.20148 41.76732 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.18687 41.8712 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.18596 41.78359 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.1704 41.80397 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.16647 41.79744 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.16574 40.78663 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.1657 41.83595 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.16244 40.78586 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.14799 41.74598 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.14756 41.87017 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.14711 40.79334 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)
 POINT ZM (-124.14597 41.75299 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)

Those are some big-ass M values. So the problem is almost certainly
with the higher dimensions. Since you aren't using them, a simple
expedient to fix your problem would be to just alter the type to a 2d
point, and then the stats gathering system will work right. It's worth
doing this, since as the NOTICE says, you aren't currently gathering
any stats.

P.


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Paul Ramsey pram...@cleverelephant.ca wrote:
 Well, trying to synthetically reproduce your error is not working.

 Butterfly:~/Code/postgis-svn/postgis pramsey$ vacuumdb -v -Z -d postgis22 -t 
 pts

 INFO:  analyzing public.pts

 INFO:  pts: scanned 14286 of 14286 pages, containing 100 live
 rows and 0 dead rows; 3 rows in sample, 100 estimated total
 rows

 I used a basic random table,

 CREATE TABLE pts AS
 WITH rands AS (
   SELECT generate_series as id, random() AS u1, random() AS u2 FROM
 generate_series(1,100)
 )
 SELECT
   id,
   ST_SetSRID(ST_MakePoint(
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * cos(2*pi()*u2),
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * sin(2*pi()*u2),
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * sin(2*pi()*u2),
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) *
 sin(2*pi()*u2)),4326)::Geometry(PointZM,4326) AS geom
 FROM rands;

 P

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Paul Ramsey pram...@cleverelephant.ca 
 wrote:
 I guess in theory I could reproduce it with some random xyz data...

 P

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jason Mathis
 jmat...@redzonesoftware.com wrote:
 So unfortunately I did not get the go ahead to share the data, but I solved
 the problem. It was a dataset that was merged from several different
 datasets which is why I got the “PointZM” from shp2pgsql. I was given a
 shape file to load into the database. Although the data just needed to be
 two dimensional. I also had the original coordinates, so I drop the column
 and re-added with just “POINT” and updated the geometry from the lat/longs
 and viola no “notice” message.

 Is it only an issue with three or four dimensional data?

 Thanks,
 jason

 On September 22, 2014 at 5:43:43 PM, Paul Ramsey (pram...@cleverelephant.ca)
 wrote:

 If you can share data, I'm happy to try and reproduce it here.

 P

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Jason Mathis
 jmat...@redzonesoftware.com wrote:
 I am stumped on it. I think i remember seeing something like this before,
 but can’t quite recall.

 Queries both return zero.

 'POSTGIS=2.1.3 r12547 GEOS=3.4.2-CAPI-1.8.2 r3921 PROJ=Rel. 4.8.0, 6
 March 2012 GDAL=GDAL 1.9.2, released 2012/10/08 LIBXML=2.7.6
 LIBJSON=UNKNOWN RASTER'

 i even tried putting a bogus null row in there but I still got the
 message.

 thanks!


 On September 22, 2014 at 2:52:00 PM, Paul Ramsey
 (pram...@cleverelephant.ca)
 wrote:

 It means it sampled 3 rows and didn't find any geometries that
 were non-null or non-empty. I suppose it could mean a bug, though that
 code's been around for a while.

 select count(*) from yourtable where geom is null;
 select count(*) from yourtable where st_isempty(geom);
 select postgis_full_version();

 P.

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Jason Mathis
 jmat...@redzonesoftware.com wrote:
 Does anyone know what this “notice” means? I loaded some new data into a
 table from a shape file.Visually it looks good and loaded without error.
 I
 have a nightly analyze job that runs and since loading the data it spits
 

Re: [postgis-users] NOTICE: no non-null/empty features, unable to compute statistics

2014-10-02 Thread Jason Mathis
Thanks Paul! I did do the alter and its been working great. 

-jason 




On October 2, 2014 at 10:58:14 AM, Paul Ramsey (pram...@cleverelephant.ca) 
wrote:

OK, with the real test data I can reproduce, and the source of the  
problem is pretty obvious if not the exact place things are going  
wrong yet:  

st_astext  
-  
POINT ZM (-124.22007 41.75967 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.22 41.78017 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.21508 41.76429 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.2146 41.75716 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.21434 41.75974 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.21069 41.7646 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.20893 41.76469 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.20851 41.99467 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.20777 41.76345 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.20648 41.7782 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.2054 41.7605 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.20423 41.96717 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.20311 41.75043 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.20148 41.76732 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.18687 41.8712 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.18596 41.78359 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.1704 41.80397 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.16647 41.79744 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.16574 40.78663 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.1657 41.83595 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.16244 40.78586 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.14799 41.74598 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.14756 41.87017 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.14711 40.79334 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  
POINT ZM (-124.14597 41.75299 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  

Those are some big-ass M values. So the problem is almost certainly  
with the higher dimensions. Since you aren't using them, a simple  
expedient to fix your problem would be to just alter the type to a 2d  
point, and then the stats gathering system will work right. It's worth  
doing this, since as the NOTICE says, you aren't currently gathering  
any stats.  

P.  


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Paul Ramsey pram...@cleverelephant.ca wrote:  
 Well, trying to synthetically reproduce your error is not working.  
  
 Butterfly:~/Code/postgis-svn/postgis pramsey$ vacuumdb -v -Z -d postgis22 -t 
 pts  
  
 INFO: analyzing public.pts  
  
 INFO: pts: scanned 14286 of 14286 pages, containing 100 live  
 rows and 0 dead rows; 3 rows in sample, 100 estimated total  
 rows  
  
 I used a basic random table,  
  
 CREATE TABLE pts AS  
 WITH rands AS (  
 SELECT generate_series as id, random() AS u1, random() AS u2 FROM  
 generate_series(1,100)  
 )  
 SELECT  
 id,  
 ST_SetSRID(ST_MakePoint(  
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * cos(2*pi()*u2),  
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * sin(2*pi()*u2),  
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * sin(2*pi()*u2),  
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) *  
 sin(2*pi()*u2)),4326)::Geometry(PointZM,4326) AS geom  
 FROM rands;  
  
 P  
  
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Paul Ramsey pram...@cleverelephant.ca 
 wrote:  
 I guess in theory I could reproduce it with some random xyz data...  
  
 P  
  
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jason Mathis  
 jmat...@redzonesoftware.com wrote:  
 So unfortunately I did not get the go ahead to share the data, but I solved 
  
 the problem. It was a dataset that was merged from several different  
 datasets which is why I got the “PointZM” from shp2pgsql. I was given a  
 shape file to load into the database. Although the data just needed to be  
 two dimensional. I also had the original coordinates, so I drop the column  
 and re-added with just “POINT” and updated the geometry from the lat/longs  
 and viola no “notice” message.  
  
 Is it only an issue with three or four dimensional data?  
  
 Thanks,  
 jason  
  
 On September 22, 2014 at 5:43:43 PM, Paul Ramsey 
 (pram...@cleverelephant.ca)  
 wrote:  
  
 If you can share data, I'm happy to try and reproduce it here.  
  
 P  
  
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Jason Mathis  
 jmat...@redzonesoftware.com wrote:  
 I am stumped on it. I think i remember seeing something like this before,  
 but can’t quite recall.  
  
 Queries both return zero.  
  
 'POSTGIS=2.1.3 r12547 GEOS=3.4.2-CAPI-1.8.2 r3921 PROJ=Rel. 4.8.0, 6  
 March 2012 GDAL=GDAL 1.9.2, released 2012/10/08 LIBXML=2.7.6  
 LIBJSON=UNKNOWN RASTER'  
  
 i even tried putting a bogus null row in there but I still got the  
 message.  
  
 thanks!  
  
  
 On September 22, 2014 at 2:52:00 PM, Paul Ramsey  
 (pram...@cleverelephant.ca)  
 wrote:  
  
 It means it sampled 3 rows and didn't find any geometries that  
 were non-null or non-empty. I suppose it could mean a bug, though that  
 code's been around for a while.  
  
 select count(*) from yourtable where geom is null;  
 select count(*) from yourtable where st_isempty(geom);  
 select 

Re: [postgis-users] NOTICE: no non-null/empty features, unable to compute statistics

2014-10-02 Thread Paul Ramsey
So, I have a “solution” but I’m not 100% happy with it. It’s attached to the 
ticket here,

http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/2953

P.

-- 
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http://cleverelephant.ca
http://postgis.net

On October 2, 2014 at 9:58:13 AM, Paul Ramsey (pram...@cleverelephant.ca) wrote:

OK, with the real test data I can reproduce, and the source of the  
problem is pretty obvious if not the exact place things are going  
wrong yet:  

st_astext  
-  
POINT ZM (-124.22007 41.75967 0 -1.79769313486232e+308)  

Those are some big-ass M values. So the problem is almost certainly  
with the higher dimensions. Since you aren't using them, a simple  
expedient to fix your problem would be to just alter the type to a 2d  
point, and then the stats gathering system will work right. It's worth  
doing this, since as the NOTICE says, you aren't currently gathering  
any stats.  

P.  


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Paul Ramsey pram...@cleverelephant.ca wrote:  
 Well, trying to synthetically reproduce your error is not working.  
  
 Butterfly:~/Code/postgis-svn/postgis pramsey$ vacuumdb -v -Z -d postgis22 -t 
 pts  
  
 INFO: analyzing public.pts  
  
 INFO: pts: scanned 14286 of 14286 pages, containing 100 live  
 rows and 0 dead rows; 3 rows in sample, 100 estimated total  
 rows  
  
 I used a basic random table,  
  
 CREATE TABLE pts AS  
 WITH rands AS (  
 SELECT generate_series as id, random() AS u1, random() AS u2 FROM  
 generate_series(1,100)  
 )  
 SELECT  
 id,  
 ST_SetSRID(ST_MakePoint(  
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * cos(2*pi()*u2),  
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * sin(2*pi()*u2),  
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) * sin(2*pi()*u2),  
 50 * sqrt(-2 * ln(u1)) *  
 sin(2*pi()*u2)),4326)::Geometry(PointZM,4326) AS geom  
 FROM rands;  
  
 P  
  
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Paul Ramsey pram...@cleverelephant.ca 
 wrote:  
 I guess in theory I could reproduce it with some random xyz data...  
  
 P  
  
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jason Mathis  
 jmat...@redzonesoftware.com wrote:  
 So unfortunately I did not get the go ahead to share the data, but I solved 
  
 the problem. It was a dataset that was merged from several different  
 datasets which is why I got the “PointZM” from shp2pgsql. I was given a  
 shape file to load into the database. Although the data just needed to be  
 two dimensional. I also had the original coordinates, so I drop the column  
 and re-added with just “POINT” and updated the geometry from the lat/longs  
 and viola no “notice” message.  
  
 Is it only an issue with three or four dimensional data?  
  
 Thanks,  
 jason  
  
 On September 22, 2014 at 5:43:43 PM, Paul Ramsey 
 (pram...@cleverelephant.ca)  
 wrote:  
  
 If you can share data, I'm happy to try and reproduce it here.  
  
 P  
  
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Jason Mathis  
 jmat...@redzonesoftware.com wrote:  
 I am stumped on it. I think i remember seeing something like this before,  
 but can’t quite recall.  
  
 Queries both return zero.  
  
 'POSTGIS=2.1.3 r12547 GEOS=3.4.2-CAPI-1.8.2 r3921 PROJ=Rel. 4.8.0, 6  
 March 2012 GDAL=GDAL 1.9.2, released 2012/10/08 LIBXML=2.7.6  
 LIBJSON=UNKNOWN RASTER'  
  
 i even tried putting a bogus null row in there but I still got the  
 message.  
  
 thanks!  
  
  
 On September 22, 2014 at 2:52:00 PM, Paul Ramsey  
 (pram...@cleverelephant.ca)  
 wrote:  
  
 It means it sampled 3 rows and didn't find any geometries that  
 were non-null or non-empty. I suppose it could mean a bug, though that  
 code's been around for a while.  
  
 select count(*) from yourtable where geom is null;  
 select count(*) from yourtable where st_isempty(geom);  
 select postgis_full_version();  
  
 P.  
  
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Jason Mathis  
 jmat...@redzonesoftware.com wrote:  
 Does anyone know what this “notice” means? I loaded some new data into a  
 table from a shape file.Visually it looks good and loaded without error.  
 I  
 have a nightly analyze job that runs and since loading the data it spits  
 out  
 this “notice” I don’t know what it means. If I drop the geom column I do  
 not  
 get this message. I have tried drop/create the index, and reloading the  
 data without success.  
  
 Thanks!  
  
  
  
 $ /usr/bin/vacuumdb -v -Z -d redzone -t 'demo.homes'  
 INFO: analyzing demo.homes  
 INFO: homes: scanned 2237 of 2237 pages, containing 101937 live rows  
 and  
 0 dead rows; 3 rows in sample, 101937 estimated total rows  
 NOTICE: no non-null/empty features, unable to compute statistics  
 NOTICE: no non-null/empty features, unable to compute statistics  
  
 CREATE TABLE demo.homes  
 (  
 gid integer NOT NULL DEFAULT nextval('demo.homes_gid_seq'::regclass),  
 geolat numeric,  
 geolong numeric,  
 geolevel text,  
 geonumber integer,  
 geostreet text,  
 geocity text,  
 geocounty text,  
 geostate text,  
 zip text,  
 firstname text,  
 lastname text,  
 tiv integer,