Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

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Does that mean that I can't use [Spam rating] as a condition for anything
else?

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On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, PowerMail Engineering said:


Andy Fragen


I get a dialog stating I have more than one filter set to act on spam.
Both filters seem to be active. Is this just a warning?

It's just a warning; as the spam filter assistant will act only on the
first one, it can be a bit confusing if you forget that you have another one.


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Re: Etiquette

2004-04-22 Thread Wayne Brissette

harryo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22 April 2004 stated:

Excuse me is this now a french mailing list?

It's only English by default. Since PowerMail is used worldwide I would
hope we would show a bit more tolerance when these posts occasionally appear. 

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Re: Unable to Send

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Sanna

Contact TDS Metrocom and ask if they have started blocking port 25.

Gave 'em a call, and they started about a week ago.

The other option is to setup a sending account using metrocom's
email server in PowerMail

Although I'm not at home yet, I think this will work.  They told me to
change my outgoing mail setting to smtp.tds.net.

Thanks for the advice.

Tony
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Re: PM5 and AOL

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Sanna

Set it up as an IMAP account. Check the box to use Port 143. Your
username is your AOL user name.

OK.  Here's what I've got.  I set up a new mail account and called it
AOL.  In the Identity tab I put [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my AOL e-mail address,
and entered my Real Name.

In the Receiving tab I selected UMAP4 as the Protocol, and Sanna as the
User Account ID.  I left Incoming Mail Server blank (I didn't know what
to put there), and left the Password field empty for the time being.

I checked Use Port 143, as you suggested, however if I save the settings,
close the window, and then reopen Mail Accounts again, Use Port 143 is no
longer checked.  What is different, is that my User Account ID has
changed from Sanna to Sanna:143.  Is this how it should be?

As far as the Sending tab goes, I left this blank for the time being as well.

If I try to then connect, I get a PM error dialog that says Incorrect
setting...

What else needs to be set up to make this work?

Tony
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Re: Etiquette

2004-04-22 Thread harryo

Hello,

Ne serait-il pas possible, dans la version 5, de changer directement
depuis le menu contextuel, lorsque l'on sélectionne un message,
l'étiquette de ce dernier?
De même qu'il me semble que l'on devrait pouvoir, grace au menu
contextuel, le changer de place (transfert dans un autre dossier)

Salutations

Eric

Excuse me is this now a french mailing list?




Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

Andy Fragen

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I get a dialog stating I have more than one filter set to act on spam.
Both filters seem to be active. Is this just a warning?

It's just a warning; as the spam filter assistant will act only on the
first one, it can be a bit confusing if you forget that you have another one.

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Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

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I get a dialog stating I have more than one filter set to act on spam.
Both filters seem to be active. Is this just a warning?

--
Andy Fragen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, PowerMail Engineering said:


Ben Kennedy wrote:

Ah... maybe I see what you mean.  If a msg contains attachments
virus.pif and legitfile.txt, then using the PM filter will cause both
to be discarded, when in reality you want to retain the second file.  Yes?

I was waiting for this one :-)
The filters are in fact a bit smarter. Some examples:


If the filter is:
[spam rating]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.exe]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.pif]
[any condition is met]
[move attachments to trash]
[move message into folder] [spam]

then all the attachments of spam messages will be trashed, but only .exe
and .pif will be trashed for non spam messages; all spam messages, and
all message that contain .exe or .pif files will be moved to the spam folder.


If the filter is:
[spam rating]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.exe]
[all conditions ar met]
[move attachments to trash]
[move message into folder] [spam]

then all spam messages that have a .exe attachment will be moved to the
spam folder; if a spam message contains a .exe and a .jpg attachment,
only the .exe attachment will be moved to the trash.


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Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

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Thanks Jerome. I'll have to see if I can set this up to replace the
script. I assume that this will run significantly faster than my script?

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On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, PowerMail Engineering said:


Ben Kennedy wrote:

Ah... maybe I see what you mean.  If a msg contains attachments
virus.pif and legitfile.txt, then using the PM filter will cause both
to be discarded, when in reality you want to retain the second file.  Yes?

I was waiting for this one :-)
The filters are in fact a bit smarter. Some examples:


If the filter is:
[spam rating]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.exe]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.pif]
[any condition is met]
[move attachments to trash]
[move message into folder] [spam]

then all the attachments of spam messages will be trashed, but only .exe
and .pif will be trashed for non spam messages; all spam messages, and
all message that contain .exe or .pif files will be moved to the spam folder.


If the filter is:
[spam rating]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.exe]
[all conditions ar met]
[move attachments to trash]
[move message into folder] [spam]

then all spam messages that have a .exe attachment will be moved to the
spam folder; if a spam message contains a .exe and a .jpg attachment,
only the .exe attachment will be moved to the trash.


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Re: Enhancement suggestion for manually marking as spam

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

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OK, you're right. Using AppleScript probably isn't an average user
thing. But I think you understand what I mean. Personally, resetting the
label is all I think I need.

Thanks for the quick follow-up.

--
Andy Fragen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, PowerMail Engineering said:


Andy Fragen wrote:

Your response, while accurate, is confusing. I use SpamSieve, as do many
people, and to have to duplicate those scripts, whatever they may be, and
check use 3rd party app is very confusing to the average user.

I will add something to reset the label to none when marking a message as
good. If there is something else an average user needs to do when marking
a message as spam or good (?), letting him do it via an AppleScript is
not an average user solution.


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Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

Ben Kennedy wrote:

Ah... maybe I see what you mean.  If a msg contains attachments
virus.pif and legitfile.txt, then using the PM filter will cause both
to be discarded, when in reality you want to retain the second file.  Yes?

I was waiting for this one :-)
The filters are in fact a bit smarter. Some examples:

If the filter is:
[spam rating]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.exe]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.pif]
[any condition is met]
[move attachments to trash]
[move message into folder] [spam]

then all the attachments of spam messages will be trashed, but only .exe
and .pif will be trashed for non spam messages; all spam messages, and
all message that contain .exe or .pif files will be moved to the spam folder.

If the filter is:
[spam rating]
[attachment name] [ends with] [.exe]
[all conditions ar met]
[move attachments to trash]
[move message into folder] [spam]

then all spam messages that have a .exe attachment will be moved to the
spam folder; if a spam message contains a .exe and a .jpg attachment,
only the .exe attachment will be moved to the trash.

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Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Ben Kennedy

On 22 4 2004 at 1:32 pm -0400, Andy Fragen wrote:

Yes, but I can't specify which attachments as I can in the script.

Ah... maybe I see what you mean.  If a msg contains attachments
virus.pif and legitfile.txt, then using the PM filter will cause both
to be discarded, when in reality you want to retain the second file.  Yes?

That's a valid observation.  I guess it's not a big deal for me since I
don't expect to get any crap sent along with legit files (if someone is
spamming or virusing me, then their entire message -- incl all
attachments -- is as good as garbage to me).

-b

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Re: Unable to Send

2004-04-22 Thread Richard Davis

Contact TDS Metrocom and ask if they have started blocking port 25.

ISP's typically do this to prevent their users from being spammers.

If Metrocom is blocking port 25 then you have 2 options.

Ask catalog.com to open another listener port on their email server.
I use port 2525. This is rarely blocked and works great as it is
actually an old email port anyway.

The other option is to setup a sending account using metrocom's
email server in PowerMail that has your work return email address
for when you are sending email from home.




Re: Script um Attachments zu löschen

2004-04-22 Thread computer artwork by subhash

[Andy Fragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 22.4.2004 um 9:37 Uhr:]

I've written the following script to remove all sorts of attachments.

Thank you! Nice Script (I use it with PM 4).

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Re: Enhancement suggestion for manually marking as spam

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

Andy Fragen wrote:

Your response, while accurate, is confusing. I use SpamSieve, as do many
people, and to have to duplicate those scripts, whatever they may be, and
check use 3rd party app is very confusing to the average user.

I will add something to reset the label to none when marking a message as
good. If there is something else an average user needs to do when marking
a message as spam or good (?), letting him do it via an AppleScript is
not an average user solution.

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

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Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

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Yes, but I can't specify which attachments as I can in the script. All I
do is set my spam script to label spam then run the Remove Listed
Attachments script on everything.

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Andy Fragen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, Ben Kennedy said:


On 22 4 2004 at 12:37 pm -0400, Andy Fragen wrote:

I've written the following script to remove all sorts of attachments. I
call it from a filter set as Always

In PM 5 you can now do this using the built-in filters, no applescript req'd.

-b

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Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

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Done. The 'count messages' portion comes from someone else's script and I
don't know who to give the credit to.

AppleScript
property preMsg : You currently have:   return
property postcC :  Message folders
property postfC :  Message Filters
property postclC :  Text Clippings
property postsigC :  Signatures
property postMsgs :  Messages
property ret : return
property bttnList : {Thanks, Put on Clipboard}
property defBttn : Put on Clipboard

to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt, ctMsg)
return (preMsg  ctMsg  postMsgs  ret  cCnt  postcC  ret  fCnt 
postfC  ret  clCnt  postclC  ret  sigCnt  postsigC)
end concatenateData

to displayTotals(statsTxt)
set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
buttons bttnList default button 2)
if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
set the clipboard to the statsTxt
beep
end if
end displayTotals

tell application PowerMail 5.0b12
set the containerCnt to count message container
repeat with i from 1 to containerCnt
set subContainerCnt to count message containers of message 
container i
set containerCnt to containerCnt + subContainerCnt
end repeat
set the filterCnt to count filters
set the clipCnt to count text clippings
set the sigCnt to count text signatures
set ctMsg to 0
repeat with acontainer in every message container
set ctMsg to ctMsg + (my count_messages(acontainer))
end repeat
set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
sigCnt, ctMsg)
my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
end tell
-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
clippings
-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
-- onto the clipboard.

(* this recursive function receives a message container (folder). It first
calls itself for every sub-container of the input container, summing up
the number of messages stored in them, and last, adds the number of
messages in the input container itself.
*)
to count_messages(input_container)
tell application PowerMail 5.0b12
set c to 0
repeat with bcontainer in every message container in 
input_container
set c to c + (my count_messages(bcontainer))
end repeat

set c to c + (number of messages in input_container)
return c
end tell
end count_messages
/AppleScript

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, Max Gossell said:

Ehh -- would it be possible to add total messages in database to this
script...?




Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Ben Kennedy

On 22 4 2004 at 12:37 pm -0400, Andy Fragen wrote:

I've written the following script to remove all sorts of attachments. I
call it from a filter set as Always

In PM 5 you can now do this using the built-in filters, no applescript req'd.

-b

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Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

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Rick,

I've written the following script to remove all sorts of attachments. I
call it from a filter set as Always

AppleScript
--Remove Listed Attachments by Andy Fragen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--v.1.1

property badAttachment : {winmail.dat, .exe, signature.asc,
IMSTP, smime.p7s, PGP.sig}
property spamAttachment : {.gif, .jpg, .jpeg, .pif, .scr,
.zip, Enclosure}
property spamlabel : 7

tell application PowerMail 5.0b12
set theMessages to current messages
repeat with msg in theMessages
if exists (attachments of msg) then
my stripAttachment(badAttachment, msg)
--if (name of storage of msg as string = Spam) or 
(label of msg is
spamlabel) then
if label of msg is spamlabel then
my stripAttachment(spamAttachment, msg)
end if
end if
end repeat
end tell

on stripAttachment(propList, msg)
tell application PowerMail 5.0b12
repeat with attach in every attachment of msg
repeat with i from 1 to the number of items of propList
ignoring case
--if (name of attach begins with item i 
of propList) or (name of
attach ends with item i of propList) then
if (name of attach contains item i of 
propList) then
--display dialog (Found match: 
  name of attach  :  id of msg)
set f to file of attach
tell application Finder
try
move f to trash
end try
end tell
end if
end ignoring
end repeat
end repeat
end tell
end stripAttachment
/AppleScript

Watch for line breaks.

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, Rick Lecoat said:


Here's a questions that I've wondered about for ages but never got around
to asking:
When HTML messages arrive, I sometimes get a file in the attachments
folder called Enclosure.html, sometimes one called PowerMail HTML
message.html, and sometimes the HTML message does not create a file at
all AFAIK.

What determines the different behaviour?

Also, is there any way to avoid having to retain these created files in
order to read the message later? I keep my email for years, and I hate
the ideas that in order to be sure of being able to read an HTML message
received 9 months ago I have to have a vast reservoir of files called
Enclosure.1.html, Enclosure.2.html, Enclosure.875.html, etc.

Thanks; Rick

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Re: Enhancement suggestion for manually marking as spam

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

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Jerome,

Your response, while accurate, is confusing. I use SpamSieve, as do many
people, and to have to duplicate those scripts, whatever they may be, and
check use 3rd party app is very confusing to the average user.

I think Christian's suggestion is the most versatile solution, unless you
there is already a property that gets set when the Manually mark as
Good we could then write a script that fires during a filter if the
Perform filters setting in the Prefs is set.

Of course, this doesn't address the problem of filters or scripts after a
message is manually marked as spam.

--
Andy Fragen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, PowerMail Engineering said:


Christian Roth wrote:

I am now also in the situation where I would
like to have the ability to perform an AppleScript after both, Manually
mark as Spam and Manually mark as good.

You can already do this: in the spam filter assistant, choose other
third party spam filter instead of SpamSieve (or in addition to the
other options), and define the scripts to be ran in the following
assistant pane. You can duplicate the SpamSieve scripts and add whatever
action you want to do there...


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Re: PM5 and AOL

2004-04-22 Thread Richard Hart

Anthony Sanna wrote:

How do you go about setting up a PM - AOL account?

Set it up as an IMAP account. Check the box to use Port 143. Your
username is your AOL user name.

It has worked great in PM 4. I'm having a little trouble with PM 5, but
it could just be my machine.

Richard Hart




Re: Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread Richard Hart

Bob Moody wrote:

Spam blockers are unnecessary.

You are contradicting yourself. You act as your own spam blocker. If spam
blockers were unnecessary, than why would you take actions to block spam?
You can't have it both ways.

Just use your web browser to log into your pop account using webmail.

This is just silly.

Richard Hart




Unable to Send

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Sanna

I use PowerMail at the office and at home.  Recently, however, I have not
been able to send any messages from my home Mac.  When I do, I get the
error message: No SMTP server on smtp2.catalog.com.

At home, I am plugged into the web via an ethernet connected Airport
Extreme which is connected to a DSL modem.  My DSL service is through TDS
Metrocom, and my mail hosting is at catalog.com.  The catalog.com account
is a stopgap measure to bridge my business website and mail service
during the time between when our ISP went under last November, until we
can get the servers set up to internally host our own web and mail.

It has been suggested that my IP address has been blacklisted, and that I
should kill the DSL for a length of time, and then restart it to insure
that I get a new address.  

It has also been suggested that I do a send and receive, and then
manually send outgoing mail, so that my address is verified.

I may not be stating these things correctly, but, in general, this is the
advice I've been given.

-

Postscript  When I tried sending the above message, I got a different
communication error (I'm adding this to the original message after it
failed to send).  

The error message:  Recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED] refused on
smtp2.catalog.com  sorry, that domain isn't allowed to be relayed thru
this MTA (#5.7.1)

BTW...  I'm at the office, connected via LAN - Cisco PIX - T1

Tony
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SACO Foods, Inc.
6120 University Avenue
Middleton, WI  53562

1-800-373-7226
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




AB request (was: address book problems)

2004-04-22 Thread Max Gossell

At Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:43:01 -0600 (CET), cheshirekat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, Apr 10, 2004, the following words from Mark Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...

My experience of trying to get PM to synchronize with Apple's Address
Book is that it soon gets out of sync. As a result I now NEVER allow PM
to modify the Apple AB, and just dump the PM AB in the trash every few
months when it has made a complete mess of the groups again. In PM 5 I
would like to be able to bypass the PM AB entirely.

I also haven't been happy with allowing PM to alter Apple's Address Book.
I only do a one-way sync to PowerMail. and have done so for most of the
time I've been using PowerMail I also restart PM frequently so that its
up-to-date with new address additions. Still, I have one filter that is
based on a group of addresses that manages to miss the same email
addresses continually. I've been putting off creating a backup filter for
those messages that slip through that group-based filter. I don't have
any use for the PM address book and would also like to disable it altogether.

I follow in the line. On a very early stage I turned off syncing from PM
to Apple AB as it messed up my Apple AB. It works so-so the other way
around, though.

I use Apple AB as my contact center for other applications as well, and
would love to access it directly from PM. As is now, it feels like half
a  solution, and I never use the Address Book Icon, the Add to Address
Book feature etc. This slows down my overall contact administration, and
I would really like to see a preference option to work directly with Apple AB.

I guess it must be possible -- I have a demo of GyazMail, which reads and
opens up a window with relevant info from Apple AB in its own GUI, plus
the three buttons To, Cc and Bcc and a search field. Looks and
works very nice. Another window pops up when choosing Add Sender to
Address Book, where I also can select Apple AB Label and Group, plus add
text in its note field. It writes directly into Apple AB.

An option to have PM working in the same manner is on top on my wish list
for major feature additions.

Please! Please...!

Max G

(And pls don't ask me to just change over to GyazMail, folks. It seems
like a very sweet app, but it's not strong enough for my needs.)




Re: Enhancement suggestion for manually marking as spam

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

Christian Roth wrote:

I am now also in the situation where I would
like to have the ability to perform an AppleScript after both, Manually
mark as Spam and Manually mark as good.

You can already do this: in the spam filter assistant, choose other
third party spam filter instead of SpamSieve (or in addition to the
other options), and define the scripts to be ran in the following
assistant pane. You can duplicate the SpamSieve scripts and add whatever
action you want to do there...

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Re: PM 5 icons and some observations

2004-04-22 Thread Richard Hart

David Gordon wrote:

I must say I'm not that impressed by the new icons in 
the toolbars. Take for example the Mark as Spam. 
Is that a fly? What has a fly got to do with spam? And 
Mark as Good doesn't follow the theme (or vis versa).
I'm not sure Reply, Forward or Redirect are clear 
either.

I disagree. I LIKE the new icons. They make perfect sense.

Scott T. Hards wrote:

Frankly, I found the fly to be obvious and intuitive.
I mean, what are flies attracted to the most, right?

I agree.

I'll agree that the difference between forward and 
redirect is not obvious.  That's best done with a
tail of some kind on the arrows.  Forward could be 
a straight arrow pointed right, while the redirect 
arrow could look like a ricochet bouncing off the 
letter icon.

I disagree. A ricochet means the mail bounced.
I believe the forward and redirect icon are better and
more meaningful than any I've seen on email clients
so far.

Keep the new icons!

Richard Hart




Re: PM 5 icons and some observations

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Sanna

I mean, what are flies attracted to the most, right?

Spam, of course!

Tony
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SACO Foods, Inc.
6120 University Avenue
Middleton, WI  53562

1-800-373-7226
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: PM5 and AOL

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Sanna

I've already reported this to support, but I'd like to know whether
anyone else has tried PowerMail 5 with AOL.

I would like to.  How do you go about setting up a PM - AOL account?

Tony
-- 
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SACO Foods, Inc.
6120 University Avenue
Middleton, WI  53562

1-800-373-7226
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Enhancement suggestion for manually marking as spam

2004-04-22 Thread Christian Roth

Hi,

though I have suggested a solution to the manually marked as good keeps
Spam label color problem, I am now also in the situation where I would
like to have the ability to perform an AppleScript after both, Manually
mark as Spam and Manually mark as good. This should be an additional
preference in the Mark as Spam Pref pane.

Reason: I too want Spam messages colored differently. When I do a
manually mark as Spam on a message judged good by the system, it is
moved to the Spam folder (according to my setting), but there is no way
to assign it the Spam label automatically.

Why an AppleScript and not that specific additional option? Because you
never know... :-) In AppleScript I can do all sorts of things which might
prove helpful at some later time (e.g. using AppleScript to maintain a
database that records original domain and time sent to create a Spam/
domain and Spam/daytime distribution chart). Also, I might want to add a
remark to the subject and/or content indicating when I marked this
message as Spam manually (or better, _that_ I did it manually).

Regards, Christian.




Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Ben Kennedy

On 22 4 2004 at 9:23 am -0400, PowerMail Engineering wrote:

HTML messages are normally not stored as attachments; however when you
click the globe icon (view in web browser) a temporary PowerMail HTML
message.html file is created with a copy of the HTML data, and opened in
your web browser. This file is overriten when you click the globe button
for another HTML message.

I suggested some months ago that this temp file be created in /tmp
instead of in the user's attachmetns folder.  Since PM5 no longer runs on
Mac OS 9 (which had no concept of unix pathnaming or the /tmp dir), could
this become a reality?

-ben

-- 
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Re: files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

Rick Lecoat wrote:

When HTML messages arrive, I sometimes get a file in the attachments
folder called Enclosure.html, sometimes one called PowerMail HTML
message.html, and sometimes the HTML message does not create a file at
all AFAIK.

What determines the different behaviour?

HTML messages are normally not stored as attachments; however when you
click the globe icon (view in web browser) a temporary PowerMail HTML
message.html file is created with a copy of the HTML data, and opened in
your web browser. This file is overriten when you click the globe button
for another HTML message.
Some messages however contain multiple HTML parts, or both a text part
and an HTML one (with a content type: multipart/mixed, which means that
the text part is not equivalent to the HTML part); in this case,
PowerMail handle the HTML part(s) as an attachment, so you can view it in
addition of the text part. Maybe I could use a better name than
Enclosure.html, based on the message's subject...

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

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Re: Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread Michael Tsai

On Apr 22, 2004, at 7:29 AM, david.gordon wrote:

 Your SpamSieve corpus is stored in your Library folder, so there is
 nothing to move.

 So why does SS report that its only had a few hundred messages since
 20.04.04 when I have been using it for well over a year and had 
 thousands
 of message filter through?

The first time you launch SpamSieve 2.1.2 or later, it will set the 
Statistics window to only show statistics from that date forward. 
However, the old statistics are still there, and you can show them by 
clicking the Set Date... button.

The number of messages in the corpus should be unchanged.

 I want to use 2.1.4 (I'll update from 2.1) but surely I also want to 
 keep
 my original files and statistics?

No matter which version of SpamSieve you use, it will alawys use the 
data and statistics in ~/Library/Application Support/SpamSieve.

-- 
Michael Tsai http://www.c-command.com




Re(3): Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread fk

On 22/04/2004 at 7:28 AM I saw Bob Moody type:

Spam blockers are unnecessary.

Just categorically saying they are unnecessary is a bit extreme.

Just use your web browser to log into your pop account using webmail. 
Look at what's there and delete everything that you don't want.  (I hit
select all then individually uncheck the ones I want, then hit the
delete button on the page.) 

Some people may not have webmail access.
Some may not want to complicate the process by adding another step.
Some need to deal with the 200 or so 'real' messages they do need, and to
manually uncheck or check them would be very time consuming.


After doing that, log into your mail account with PowerMail and download
what's left.

This leaves spam, viruses, etc. behind and you only get what you want.  
It takes an extra 1-2 minutes for me to do this, and I usually have about
90 messages, 4-5 of which I keep.

I have anywhere from 70-150 messages that I need to keep. I do get spam,
and without something like SpamSieve, my workflow would be severely
hampered by manual editing of the inbox.

To each his own solution. I'm happy that you don't need a spam blocker
software.

Kename

*REPLYING TO MESSAGE QUOTED BELOW**
Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:58:51 +0200

david.gordon wrote:

I already had SpamSieve. I think that PM 5 is running the copy supplied.
Can I simply replace the copy in the PM folder with my original copy to
use my own corpus etc.

Your SpamSieve corpus is stored in your Library folder, so there is
nothing to move.
PowerMail 5 requires SpamSieve 2.1.3 or higher; if you have an older
version installed somewhere, make sure that it is not the old one that is
launched when SpamSieve is called by PM.


Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering




Re: Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread Wayne Brissette

Max Gossell [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 4/22/04 at 6:58 stated: 

Spam blockers are unnecessary.

Is this really the TRUTH? 

Using his method, it's not that they are unnecessary, he just doesn't
call them that. He is the spam blocker in his case. EarthLink has been
very good with SPAM recently, so I don't get nearly as much as I use to.
When I do log in via the web to look at mail, I always peek in the SPAM
folder and I'm amazed at how much stuff is in there. SPAMSieve takes care
of what slips through. 

Wayne

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Re: Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Smith

I deleted the version of SpamSieve in the PM folder, before I even
launched PM 5. There seems to have been no ill effects, and my existing
copy of SS (2.1.4) is still using my existing Corpus. However, it looks
like you need to use the fly and smiley icons in the Toolbar to add Spam
or Good messages to the Corpus.

HTH

Mark

At 10:50 AM on 2004年 4月 22日 (木), david.gordon wrote:

I already had SpamSieve. I think that PM 5 is running the copy supplied.
Can I simply replace the copy in the PM folder with my original copy to
use my own corpus etc.
-- 
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The Grampalogue: For Nagoya Grampus Eight News  Views.
http://www2.odn.ne.jp/rockdiver/grampalog/index.html






Re: Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread Max Gossell

At Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:28:26 -0400 (CET), Bob Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Spam blockers are unnecessary.

Is this really the TRUTH?

Just use your web browser to log into your pop account using webmail.
Look at what's there and delete everything that you don't want.  (I hit
select all then individually uncheck the ones I want, then hit the
delete button on the page.)

Is this really FAIR to all concerned? I have about 10 different accounts.
On each I may get a message that demands my immediate actions = they all
need to be checked frequently and regularly.

After doing that, log into your mail account with PowerMail and download
what's left.

This leaves spam, viruses, etc. behind and you only get what you want.
It takes an extra 1-2 minutes for me to do this, and I usually have about
90 messages, 4-5 of which I keep.

I have all my accounts checked for new mail in 5 minutes intervalls. Your
suggestion means I would sit full-time and do nothing but check my
accounts all through my work days. Is this really BENEFICIAL to mee...?

This is the second time you send exactly the same un asked-for advice to
this list. How much GOOD WILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIP do you think it
really creates?

Max G

-
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936 Frog Pond Road
Staunton VA 24401
800-326-9192  www.bobmoody.org

The Four-Way Test of the things we think, say, or do:
First: Is it the TRUTH?
Second: Is it FAIR to all concerned?
Third: Will it build GOOD WILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?
Fourth: Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned?

Replying to message quoted below
=


*REPLYING TO MESSAGE QUOTED BELOW**
Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:58:51 +0200

david.gordon wrote:

I already had SpamSieve. I think that PM 5 is running the copy supplied.
Can I simply replace the copy in the PM folder with my original copy to
use my own corpus etc.

Your SpamSieve corpus is stored in your Library folder, so there is
nothing to move.
PowerMail 5 requires SpamSieve 2.1.3 or higher; if you have an older
version installed somewhere, make sure that it is not the old one that is
launched when SpamSieve is called by PM.


Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering


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that a great deal of thought has gone into striking the balance between
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a mortal can use (pull down menus).
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files that HTML messages create

2004-04-22 Thread Rick Lecoat

Here's a questions that I've wondered about for ages but never got around
to asking:
When HTML messages arrive, I sometimes get a file in the attachments
folder called Enclosure.html, sometimes one called PowerMail HTML
message.html, and sometimes the HTML message does not create a file at
all AFAIK.

What determines the different behaviour?

Also, is there any way to avoid having to retain these created files in
order to read the message later? I keep my email for years, and I hate
the ideas that in order to be sure of being able to read an HTML message
received 9 months ago I have to have a vast reservoir of files called
Enclosure.1.html, Enclosure.2.html, Enclosure.875.html, etc.

Thanks; Rick

--
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Re: Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread david.gordon

PowerMail Engineering wrote on Thu 22 Apr 2004 at 12:58 +0200

Your SpamSieve corpus is stored in your Library folder, so there is
nothing to move.

So why does SS report that its only had a few hundred messages since
20.04.04 when I have been using it for well over a year and had thousands
of message filter through?

I want to use 2.1.4 (I'll update from 2.1) but surely I also want to keep
my original files and statistics?
-- 
david.gordon




Re(2): Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread Bob Moody

Spam blockers are unnecessary.
Just use your web browser to log into your pop account using webmail.
Look at what's there and delete everything that you don't want.  (I hit
select all then individually uncheck the ones I want, then hit the
delete button on the page.)

After doing that, log into your mail account with PowerMail and download
what's left.

This leaves spam, viruses, etc. behind and you only get what you want.
It takes an extra 1-2 minutes for me to do this, and I usually have about
90 messages, 4-5 of which I keep.

-
Bob Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
936 Frog Pond Road
Staunton VA 24401
800-326-9192  www.bobmoody.org

The Four-Way Test of the things we think, say, or do:
First: Is it the TRUTH?
Second: Is it FAIR to all concerned?
Third: Will it build GOOD WILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?
Fourth: Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned?

Replying to message quoted below
=

*REPLYING TO MESSAGE QUOTED BELOW**
Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:58:51 +0200

david.gordon wrote:

I already had SpamSieve. I think that PM 5 is running the copy supplied.
Can I simply replace the copy in the PM folder with my original copy to
use my own corpus etc.

Your SpamSieve corpus is stored in your Library folder, so there is
nothing to move.
PowerMail 5 requires SpamSieve 2.1.3 or higher; if you have an older
version installed somewhere, make sure that it is not the old one that is
launched when SpamSieve is called by PM.


Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering


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that a great deal of thought has gone into striking the balance between
a Über-geek tool (i.e. w/full-blown Boleean instructions) and something
a mortal can use (pull down menus).
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 Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com
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Re: PM 5 icons and some observations

2004-04-22 Thread Scott at HobbyLink Japan

Is that a fly? What has a fly got to do
with spam? And Mark as Good doesn't follow the theme (or vis versa).
I'm not sure Reply, Forward or Redirect are clear either. I'll
probably turn off the icons - just like I did in PM 4.

Allow me to disagree with these observations.  Frankly, I found the fly
to be obvious and intuitive.  I mean, what are flies attracted to the
most, right?

I've already commented on the arrows.  I'll agree that the difference
between forward and redirect is not obvious.  That's best done with a
tail of some kind on the arrows.  Forward could be a straight arrow
pointed right, while the redirect arrow could look like a ricochet
bouncing off the letter icon.

---

Scott T. Hards
President
HobbyLink Japan (www.hlj.com)




Re: Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

david.gordon wrote:

I already had SpamSieve. I think that PM 5 is running the copy supplied.
Can I simply replace the copy in the PM folder with my original copy to
use my own corpus etc.

Your SpamSieve corpus is stored in your Library folder, so there is
nothing to move.
PowerMail 5 requires SpamSieve 2.1.3 or higher; if you have an older
version installed somewhere, make sure that it is not the old one that is
launched when SpamSieve is called by PM.

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

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   With fairly flexible filters and mail options built-in, PowerMail shows
that a great deal of thought has gone into striking the balance between
a Über-geek tool (i.e. w/full-blown Boleean instructions) and something
a mortal can use (pull down menus).
  PowerMail user comment on www.macupdate.com

 Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com
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Re: file access problems

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

Ron,

When I use PM on my desktop, where I am an administrative user, I have no
problems. When I use it on a laptop, where my account is not an
administrative account, it almost always crashes when I quit the program.
I think it is related to attachments. It complains of not having
sufficient privileges. Is there a way around this problem?

Thanks for the crash log.
Do you have your mail scheduling set to send mail before quitting?
Do you have some waiting messages that have an attachment for which you
don't have access privilege?
You can try to launch PM with the command and option keys pressed, and
check the purge outgoing queue checkbox.

Let me know if that solves the problem.

Best regards

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

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Which SpamSieve?

2004-04-22 Thread david.gordon

I already had SpamSieve. I think that PM 5 is running the copy supplied.
Can I simply replace the copy in the PM folder with my original copy to
use my own corpus etc.

-- 
david.gordon




Re: PM5 bug with previously sent msgs

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

Karel,

It doesn't work 'automatically' while sending messages either...

I created a simple  outgoing filter:

only 'filter outgoing messages' checked
conditions:
status is sent

In PM 4, outgoing filters were applied once the message has been sent.

In PM 5.0b12, they are applied before sending the message, while it's
status is still draft. Filing an outgoing message (even manually,
either draft, waiting or sent) sets the folder where it will be moved
once it has been successfully sent (so it won't be filed if you do not
send it after running the filter manually).

In PM 5.0 final, they will be applied before sending, but when the
message has a waiting status. Filing a message (even when applying the
filter manually) will be immediate for any message except when the status
is waiting; in this case the message will be filed when successfully sent.

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

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Re(2): PM5 bug with previously sent msgs

2004-04-22 Thread Karel Gillissen

Op woensdag, 21 april 2004 schreef PowerMail Engineering:

There is a bug with the file in filter action: it does not work when
you apply it manually on an outgoing message that has already been sent.
I will fix it, however the file in action will not be immediate when
applied on message in the waiting state. In this case, the message will
be filed in the folder specified by the filter only after having been sent.

It doesn't work 'automatically' while sending messages either...

I created a simple  outgoing filter:
 
only 'filter outgoing messages' checked
conditions:
status is sent
actions:
move message into folder 'verzonden'
'Don't apply subsequent filters on this message' checked

and I find that this filter isn't working while sending mail on both my
testing environments. Sent messages remain filed in the 'Out Tray'.
(G4 450 MHz cube and 400 MHz G3 powerbook both running 10.3.3)

Karel Gillissen




Re: SpamSieve problems

2004-04-22 Thread david.gordon

harryo wrote on Wed 21 Apr 2004 at 18:46 -0500

I especially like the feature in Mail.APP that allows me to bounce
an EMail back to its sender. 

Why don't you bounce over to http://discussions.info.apple.com/ and
leave us less insecure punters alone.

-- 
david.gordon




Re: PowerMail Wish - In/Out trays

2004-04-22 Thread Max Gossell

Ehh -- would it be possible to add total messages in database to this
script...?

Max G

At Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:23:53 -0700 (CET), Andy Fragen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
This doesn't count subfolders on my install. Here's a fix for it.

AppleScript
property preMsg : You currently have:   return
property postcC :  Message folders
property postfC :  Message Filters
property postclC :  Text Clippings
property postsigC :  Signatures
property ret : return
property bttnList : {Thanks, Put on Clipboard}
property defBttn : Put on Clipboard

to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt)
   return (preMsg  cCnt  postcC  ret  fCnt  postfC  ret  clCnt 
postclC  ret  sigCnt  postsigC)
end concatenateData

to displayTotals(statsTxt)
   set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
buttons bttnList default button 2)
   if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
   set the clipboard to the statsTxt
   beep
   end if
end displayTotals

tell application PowerMail
   set the containerCnt to count message containers
   repeat with i from 1 to containerCnt
   set subContainerCnt to count message containers of message 
 container i
   set containerCnt to containerCnt + subContainerCnt
   end repeat
   set the filterCnt to count filters
   set the clipCnt to count text clippings
   set the sigCnt to count text signatures
   set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
sigCnt)
   my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
end tell
-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
clippings
-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
-- onto the clipboard.
/AppleScript

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Sat, Apr 10, 2004, cheshirekat said:

BTW, here's an AppleScript you can use so that you don't have to manually
count your folders and filters - just in case you don't already have such
an AppleScript:

Begin AppleScript
property preMsg : You currently have:   return
property postcC :  Message folders
property postfC :  Message Filters
property postclC :  Text Clippings
property postsigC :  Signatures
property ret : return
property bttnList : {Thanks, Put on Clipboard}
property defBttn : Put on Clipboard

to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt)
  return (preMsg  cCnt  postcC  ret  fCnt  postfC  ret  clCnt 
postclC  ret  sigCnt  postsigC)
end concatenateData

to displayTotals(statsTxt)
  set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
buttons bttnList default button 2)
  if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
  set the clipboard to the statsTxt
  beep
  end if
end displayTotals

tell application PowerMail
  set the containerCnt to count message containers
  set the filterCnt to count filters
  set the clipCnt to count text clippings
  set the sigCnt to count text signatures
  set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt, clipCnt,
sigCnt)
  my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
end tell
-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
clippings
-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
-- onto the clipboard.
End AppleScript








Re: Additional comments/wish list

2004-04-22 Thread cheshirekat

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, the following words from Scott at HobbyLink Japan
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...

Greater control over fonts and colors (allow me to set individual colors
for each background of the mail browser's panes and the message window,
as well as font colors)

One of the main reasons I love exporting my email to a FileMaker Pro
database is the control I have over the colors, fonts and overall
appearance. Not just in viewing messages, but also in printing messages.
Some people like to spend a lot of time tweaking and customizing their
desktop icons, but I much prefer to customize the documents and data I
use frequently. In PowerMail, the list view text is always too small and
black text on white background causes my eyes to tire easily, so I like
creating databases with text formatting and colors I can read comfortably. 

In Emailer, it was possible to have different font options for screen and
for print - that would be a welcome feature in PowerMail. I have to admit
that it's rare for me to print directly from PowerMail due to the lack of
control over the print output. When I need to print email, I take the
time to copy to another application or to FileMaker Pro. But, even in
Emailer, I often had to print from another application more frequently
than I wanted because of the format options.

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Or one that is coming to birth.
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Additional comments/wish list

2004-04-22 Thread Scott at HobbyLink Japan

How about adding the send waiting messages to the toolbar options? 
This is something which I use every day - and it would be very handy to
have a button for it...

I'll second that!

And it *still* asks me when I want to modify a message in the out tray,
and I still answer modify as draft 25 times a day. (okay, so I
exaggerate a bit..)

Jerome, please make that an optional warning, or trash it all together. 
I am in control of my clicking.

Also, a somewhat esoteric comment regarding the new status icons, i.e.
the little crystal blue arrowhead indicating 'replied:'  It seems a bit
too unarrow-like to me.  I understand it's a design theme along with
the same little blue arrows/triangles on the letter icons in the toolbar,
but how about giving them little tails, or making them a bit wider in
relation to their height.  Yeah, maybe it's just me, but...

Two other features I hope to see in PM at some point:

Ability to freely arrange folders (currently alphabetical only)

Greater control over fonts and colors (allow me to set individual colors
for each background of the mail browser's panes and the message window,
as well as font colors)

---

Scott T. Hards
President
HobbyLink Japan (www.hlj.com)




Re: Incoming mail filter problem in PM 5.0 Beta

2004-04-22 Thread Andy Fragen

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
I, too, am experiencing problems where applescripts are not working
properly when called from filters but work fine when called from the AS
menu. I think it's a bug.

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004, Christian Roth said:

When I run the above AppleScript script manually on a message, it works
as expected and creates a new reply message in the out try with empty body.

As I said, the above filter worked flawlessly in PM 4.x. and stopped
working in 5.0 beta. Any hints?




Re: SpamSieve problems

2004-04-22 Thread Barbara Needham

harryo on 4/21/04 said

Mail.APP has a built in spam filter.

Costs nothing does a good job and is supported by Apple.
I especially like the feature in Mail.APP that allows me to bounce
an EMail back to its sender. 

You know, if you prefer Mail.app you are more than welcome to use it. If
you didn't like PM, then you shouldn't have sent them your credit card
information. Some people like Entourage better, too. We can all make up
our own mind.
-- 
Barbara Needham




Incoming mail filter problem in PM 5.0 Beta

2004-04-22 Thread Christian Roth

Hi,

I'm having a problem with the following incoming mail filter setting
which worked flawlessly in 4.x:

[x] Filter incoming messages
Conditions:
  Subject begins with CONFIRM
  Account is mailinglist-admin
  Status is not read
  Status is not replied
  Execute if all conditions are met

Actions:
  Execute AppleScript Handle Confirm message
  Set status to Replied

The Handle Confirm message AppleScript script reads as follows:

tell application PowerMail 5.0b12
set theMessages to current messages
repeat with msg in theMessages
my handleConfirm(msg)
end repeat
end tell

on handleConfirm(msg)
tell application PowerMail 5.0b12
set replyMsg to (reply to msg without replying to all)
set content of the replyMsg to 
set status of the replyMsg to waiting
end tell
end handleConfirm

The problem: Whereas the set status to replied action is actually
carried out (i.e., the filter does run on the respective messages), no
outgoing message is created like should be. It seems the AppleScript
either does not run at all or there are no current messages during
execution.

When I run the above AppleScript script manually on a message, it works
as expected and creates a new reply message in the out try with empty body.

As I said, the above filter worked flawlessly in PM 4.x. and stopped
working in 5.0 beta. Any hints?

Regards, Christian.




Re: SpamSieve problems

2004-04-22 Thread Ben Kennedy

On 21 4 2004 at 7:46 pm -0400, harryo wrote:

I especially like the feature in Mail.APP that allows me to bounce
an EMail back to its sender. 

Granted though most spam is from a phony address.

Yeah, so what is the point, exactly?

-b

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SpamSieve problems

2004-04-22 Thread harryo

Mail.APP has a built in spam filter.

Costs nothing does a good job and is supported by Apple.
I especially like the feature in Mail.APP that allows me to bounce
an EMail back to its sender. 

Granted though most spam is from a phony address.




Re: SpamSieve problems

2004-04-22 Thread Sherman Wilcox

Michael said:

I believe you can do this by adjusting the mail filter for SpamSieve.

Conditions:
   Account is AccountA

Aha! Of course. Thanks, Michael.

-- 
Sherman




Re: Snooze

2004-04-22 Thread A-NO-NE Music

PowerMail Engineering / 04.4.21 / 5:18PM wrote:

Clicking the snooze button in a connection error dialog, or selecting
snooze in the dock menu when a connection error occurs, will stop
notifying subsequent connection errors for scheduled connections on the
same account, during one hour.

A great feature.
Now, to complete its superiority, can we have a log for this feature?

\(^o^)/

P.S., Seriously, I can't use it if log is not available :-(
Too much to ask?  Please?

-- 

- Hiro

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Re: SpamSieve problems

2004-04-22 Thread Michael Tsai

On Apr 21, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Sherman Wilcox wrote:

 Have you set the accounts for which SpamSieve should be active?

 Okay, I give: how does one do this?

I believe you can do this by adjusting the mail filter for SpamSieve.

Conditions:
Account is AccountA
Spam rating 50
Actions:
Move message into folder Spam

-- 
Michael Tsai http://www.c-command.com




Re: Index Error

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

Ed Ver Hoef wrote:

Of late, whenever I launch PowerMail (I'm using a Mac under OS 9.1), I
get a message saying Can't Open Index File

Rebuild the search index from the file/database menu.

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

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   Mes félicitations pour la nouvelle fonction de recherche de PowerMail,
elle est FABULEUSE !!! Je suis vraiment ébloui !
  Yannis Haralambous, PowerMail user

 Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com
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Re: Snooze

2004-04-22 Thread PowerMail Engineering

A-NO-NE Music wrote:

I am pretty sure I didn't see any mention of snooze in the readme.  I was
getting tons of auth failure on all the .mac accounts I have today, so I
hit the snooze button.

Now I get no error message but am wondering.. ur.. what did I just do?

Clicking the snooze button in a connection error dialog, or selecting
snooze in the dock menu when a connection error occurs, will stop
notifying subsequent connection errors for scheduled connections on the
same account, during one hour.

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

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   J'utilise PowerMail depuis pas mal de temps et le passage a Mac OS X
c'est juste fait en changeant l'application par celle compatible Mac
OS X. Tout est tres simple, puissant et rapide. Quand a l'impossibilité
d'envoi de mail en HTML c'est pas plus mal.
  PowerMail user comment on www.macgeneration.com

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Index Error

2004-04-22 Thread Ed Ver Hoef

Of late, whenever I launch PowerMail (I'm using a Mac under OS 9.1), I
get a message saying Can't Open Index File and I have the choice of
saying OK or opting for more info. If I say OK, PowerMail launched and
all seems OK. If I ask for more info, another message appears saying
Can't Open Index File and again I have the option of saying OK or more
info. Again, if I say OK, awwl seems well. If I ask for more info, a
third message appears saying An Indexing Errorr Occurred, Class = QIE,
What = 9, When = 2(Index).

What does this all mean? What should I do? For the time being, I just say
OK the first time and all seems OK but the process is repeated the next
time I launch PowerMail.

Ed Ver Hoef