2 questions
I'm returning to powermail following a brief switch to MailSmith, now I find that the long period of inactivity in PM is due to conversion to Universal (hopefully we can soon start seeing some of those fab features suggested here) and then hear that MailSmith development is like way down on the BBSW development priority list. Soo, hello again :) A couple of questions ... 1) When I double click on an HTML attachment Powermail launches it in possibly the worlds worst web browser - Internet Explorer Mac (cough) - where do I change that? 2) I can't figure out for the life of me how to make recipients BCC or CC etc, and how to set a priority. Thanks! -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
Re: 2 questions
Hi Simon, 1) When I double click on an HTML attachment Powermail launches it in possibly the worlds worst web browser - Internet Explorer Mac (cough) - where do I change that? Safari Preferences can be used to change this. Better yet, run MisFox, which you'll fine in the 'extras' folder in your PowerMail folder in Applications. 2) I can't figure out for the life of me how to make recipients BCC or CC etc, and how to set a priority. Click on the 'To' to the left of the address, you'll get a dropdown list where you can set CC or BCC Not sure what you mean by 'set a priority' hope this helps, Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 413-256-4569 http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang
Message priority
Hello everybody. I am trying to stick with PM as I like it very much, unfortunately, I am having an issue that will make me switch or loose my job :( I have figured out how to mark messages with different color according to their Priority settings (Using Filters on X-Priority, priority, importance headers). Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the outgoing messages. If anybody can help I would greatly appreciate it. I would imagine that the best way would be to have a script that checks all outgoing messages for a set word/character in the Subject (for example word [HIGH] in brackets all capital), removes that word from subject and sets message header X-Priority to 2. If the word is [URGENT] then the header is set to 1, and so forth. If anybody has a script like that or is proficient enough in Apple script to write one, please let me know. Thank you -- Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 questions
On 9/27/06 at 5:13 PM, Derry Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Simon Troup at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:54:37 +0100 and how to set a priority. Dunno that one :) Simon, The problem with setting a priority is that not all email clients support it, or are configured to support it. For instance, one of the things I like about PowerMail is that I can completely ignore someone *else's* notion of priority in what they're sending me ;-) Unless you've got a specific situation where you know the other party is set up to respond to priority, my personal advice would be to not worry about it. Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 questions
and how to set a priority. For an outgoing message, one has to save it as a draft and select it. Then, under the Mail menu, go down to Label and chose the one you need. Messages in your mailbox are labeled by simply selecting them and proceeding as above. Cheers, kl.
Re: Message priority
I can certainly whip something up like this, however there is a gotcha. All mail would first have to be saved as a draft because filters don't run until after an item is sent, so there isn't a way to perform a filter on the message and there wouldn't be the proper headers before it is saved as a draft to add the following headers: X-Priority: 1 Priority: Urgent Importance: high In your case this doesn't sound like a problem, but for others, it's possible this will have no affect on their messages if their client or mail server doesn't support these. I'll work on a script for you when I get a chance. Wayne -Original Message- From: Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 27, 2006 11:22 AM To: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Subject: Message priority Hello everybody. I am trying to stick with PM as I like it very much, unfortunately, I am having an issue that will make me switch or loose my job :( I have figured out how to mark messages with different color according to their Priority settings (Using Filters on X-Priority, priority, importance headers). Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the outgoing messages. If anybody can help I would greatly appreciate it. I would imagine that the best way would be to have a script that checks all outgoing messages for a set word/character in the Subject (for example word [HIGH] in brackets all capital), removes that word from subject and sets message header X-Priority to 2. If the word is [URGENT] then the header is set to 1, and so forth. If anybody has a script like that or is proficient enough in Apple script to write one, please let me know. Thank you -- Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 questions
Karsten Liere / 2006/09/27 / 12:24 PM wrote: For an outgoing message, one has to save it as a draft and select it. Then, under the Mail menu, go down to Label and chose the one you need. Messages in your mailbox are labeled by simply selecting them and proceeding as above. Are you sure about this? As far as I know, this doesn't write X- Priority header at all. -Hiro
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I guess you are right. Never tried it until now - and it doesn't stick while sending the message. Sorry to have caused confusion... kl. Are you sure about this? As far as I know, this doesn't write X- Priority header at all. -Hiro
Re: Message priority
Much appreciate it. One question though, using a script like that with an Outgoing Mail filters. Will that work, or will I still have to save to draft first then apply a filter, then open and send? I thought that Outgoing Mail filters get processed after mail is written and send button pressed, so headers should be already built in the message, right? Thanks On 9/27/06 12:42 PM, Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can certainly whip something up like this, however there is a gotcha. All mail would first have to be saved as a draft because filters don't run until after an item is sent, so there isn't a way to perform a filter on the message and there wouldn't be the proper headers before it is saved as a draft to add the following headers: X-Priority: 1 Priority: Urgent Importance: high In your case this doesn't sound like a problem, but for others, it's possible this will have no affect on their messages if their client or mail server doesn't support these. I'll work on a script for you when I get a chance. Wayne -Original Message- From: Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 27, 2006 11:22 AM To: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Subject: Message priority Hello everybody. I am trying to stick with PM as I like it very much, unfortunately, I am having an issue that will make me switch or loose my job :( I have figured out how to mark messages with different color according to their Priority settings (Using Filters on X-Priority, priority, importance headers). Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the outgoing messages. If anybody can help I would greatly appreciate it. I would imagine that the best way would be to have a script that checks all outgoing messages for a set word/character in the Subject (for example word [HIGH] in brackets all capital), removes that word from subject and sets message header X-Priority to 2. If the word is [URGENT] then the header is set to 1, and so forth. If anybody has a script like that or is proficient enough in Apple script to write one, please let me know. Thank you -- Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Message priority
Alexander Balakersky wrote: Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the outgoing messages. Priorities is not something supported in PowerMail, because the sender's notion of priority is rarely the same as the recipient's, and I'm not sure there is really a standard for this. However, you can insert a header (something like x-priority: 1 for high priority, or x-priority: 5 for low priority) in the account settings (advanced part of the Identity pane). So you can crate a pseudo account, for which you only define the identity and sending tabs, then use this account instead of the normal one for sending messages with high priority. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I've recently switched from Entourage X and I want to say that PowerMail is really slick. Small, fast and versatile. Andy Fragen, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Message priority
Wayne Brissette wrote: You would have to save it as a draft, then apply the script. The script would have to be responsible for sending the message, because you're absolutely correct, filters don't get run until after they are sent. Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and other useful things. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - PowerMail has just about every power-user feature I could wish for, and its interface makes an ex-Emailer user feel at home. But what really impressed me is the incredible speed of text searches: PowerMail can comb through my 23,000+ messages in literally a *fraction* of a second, on a lowly iBook. No other mail client I've tried even remotely comes close. Kudos for FoxTrot! Marco Piovanelli, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
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Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and other useful things. Just goes to show you how I've let my scripting with PM languish. Thanks Jérôme! Wayne
Re: 2 questions
Steve Abrahamson: The problem with setting a priority is that not all email clients support it, or are configured to support it. For instance, one of the things I like about PowerMail is that I can completely ignore someone *else's* notion of priority in what they're sending me ;-) Unless you've got a specific situation where you know the other party is set up to respond to priority, my personal advice would be to not worry about it. I'm perfectly happy knowing that it works for the vast majority of users. It seems like a glaring omission in Powermails coding to me. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
Re: 2 questions
Jim Pistrang: 2) I can't figure out for the life of me how to make recipients BCC or CC etc, and how to set a priority. Click on the 'To' to the left of the address, you'll get a dropdown list where you can set CC or BCC Ah! If you make the window really big, stretch the name column out a long way, click in the message area to remove the focus from the recipient list and then reduce the window size, you get this! http://www.digitalmediaart.com/powermail.jpg Sorry, that explains why I couldn't see something that obvious. Thanks for the replies.= -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
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On 9/27/06 at 9:05 PM, Simon Troup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Steve Abrahamson: The problem with setting a priority is that not all email clients support it, or are configured to support it. For instance, one of the things I like about PowerMail is that I can completely ignore someone *else's* notion of priority in what they're sending me ;-) Unless you've got a specific situation where you know the other party is set up to respond to priority, my personal advice would be to not worry about it. I'm perfectly happy knowing that it works for the vast majority of users. It seems like a glaring omission in Powermails coding to me. I'm not convinced, personally, that it does work for the vast majority of users. You may know a lot of people who use the priority header in email frequently; I don't know a single one. So, as they say, your mileage may vary. Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 questions
On 9/27/06 at 9:16 PM, Simon Troup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: If you make the window really big, stretch the name column out a long way, click in the message area to remove the focus from the recipient list and then reduce the window size, you get this! Simon, I'm not sure what a long way is on your monitor, but the jpg you posted is about 2/3 the width of the window size I usually use; I wonder if a narrow default window size is making the address columns do something funny for you. If you put your cursor over the divider bar between the As and the Name columns, you'll be able to just make the As column a little wider - that should do the trick. Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm not convinced, personally, that it does work for the vast majority of users. You may know a lot of people who use the priority header in email frequently; I don't know a single one. So, as they say, your mileage may vary. Having that rather simple feature added will only be of service to those who need it. That's no bad thing. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
Re: Message priority
While I agree that notions of priority are never the same between sender and recipient, most software (and believe me, I've tried most if not all) on windows and mac has the option of setting message priority. Whether you use it is up to you, but it is there if you need it. Even mail.app has it now. All of them seem to create an X-Priority header. Some also create Priority and Importance headers. I've tried on Mac: GyazMail Mail.app Gnumail Thunderbird Eudora Mailsmith Entourage Mullberry On windows: Outlook and Outlook Express The Bat Barca PocoMail So, it seems that PowerMail should configure this option. Maybe next release :) Anyway, to keep customers happy, you should give them what they ask for (within reason) and let them figure if they want to use it or not. This should not be a very big addition, right? Thanks On 9/27/06 3:51 PM, PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Balakersky wrote: Unfortunately, I still cannot figure out how to set priority myself on the outgoing messages. Priorities is not something supported in PowerMail, because the sender's notion of priority is rarely the same as the recipient's, and I'm not sure there is really a standard for this. However, you can insert a header (something like x-priority: 1 for high priority, or x-priority: 5 for low priority) in the account settings (advanced part of the Identity pane). So you can crate a pseudo account, for which you only define the identity and sending tabs, then use this account instead of the normal one for sending messages with high priority. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I've recently switched from Entourage X and I want to say that PowerMail is really slick. Small, fast and versatile. Andy Fragen, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Alexander Balakersky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 questions
Steve Abrahamson: Simon, I'm not sure what a long way is on your monitor, but the jpg you posted is about 2/3 the width of the window size I usually use; I wonder if a narrow default window size is making the address columns do something funny for you. Oh, it's not a problem, I've found it now and know what to do. My monitors run at 1600 x 1200 and I had the window maxed out at one point. It's odd that under certain circumstances you can't see the scroll bar if some items are off to the left and hidden, but it's a very weird set of actions that cause it. I just thought I should say for the record (searching the list and the like). Thanks though :) -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
Re: Message priority
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/27/2006 3:53 PM, PowerMail Engineering wrote: Wayne Brissette wrote: You would have to save it as a draft, then apply the script. The script would have to be responsible for sending the message, because you're absolutely correct, filters don't get run until after they are sent. Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and other useful things. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given recipient in the To: field? (assuming only one To: recipient) As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFGuYSuprXnyzF8jkRAlLoAJ9WWEDgMWetrEIDkJz+tH9rIN4GNQCfQenQ MmEjyJJokvy6apXFS1mAH0E= =nxGh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Message priority
Tim Lapin wrote: Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given recipient in the To: field? (assuming only one To: recipient) Yes Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I'm using Powermail for years now. I tried every other Mail app available, including Mailsmith, Apple Mail, Entourage and Eudora. Although these apps aren't bad, no one has the functionality of Powermail that I need. Searching and filtering also is excellent. I LOVE IT (and because this is a program I use every ten minutes to fetch my mail I would have even paid more for the update...) PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re(2): Message priority
Signatures specifically assigned to an account I use often, for example I only add my name and no quotations, addresses, phone numbers etc. when I respond to a list - yes, I like it clean and simple and after seeing somebody's 15 line long information footer it gets boring for me to glance over it, especially if I am subscribed in digest mode to a list... and don't even get me started on people who don't clean up their email and lazily or ignorantly quote the quoted quoted quoted text with just a yes and a 15 line address footer ;-) Since about a year I have found that filters on outgoing messages are very useful. For example : I have a specific account which I use for very specific communication and that is my only account which is set to request a return receipt and so to track responses of their server if the recipient has read or not read a message I've sent. Even though this works only in maybe 50 - 70 percent of the cases (it's the exact same issue as with PRIORITY, there is no standard to use this but some servers do react to such headers) I can track for the most if a message of mine gets received, read (haha, sometimes it takes 3 or more days until my recipient opens the email!) or not - and now I know if it's a simple excuse or not if somebody tells me sorry I've never received your email, please send again when I KNOW that the reader opened it because I've received a return receipt. As I often forgot to select the correct account before sending off the email, I've set up a filter on outgoing messages which contains a list of email addresses which will automatically trigger the email to be set to that specific account and return-email address including signature and specific header addition. The only reason I implemented the receipt header myself was because I had some single persons constantly telling me they didn't receive my email and I just didn't believe it any longer as they swore that my name/ address is in their address book. In general though, on a personal level, I feel it's somewhat invasive of another's sphere to tell that other person how important my message is or is not (with priority headers) or to request a receipt from him / his server if he read the email or not. Basically I believe it should be the person receiving the communication to choose how important she/he wants to flag the message and to respond in due time. But, neither here or there, I think it cool that CTM consistently sticks to STANDARDS and not just does something because other's do it too, next to allowing the user to modify the headers themselves if they want to do so. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given recipient in the To: field? (assuming only one To: recipient) Indeed you can. As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. Neither did I, so I now have a filter which adds the sig below to every post to this list. -- TimH
Re: Message priority
As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. Neither did I, so I now have a filter which adds the sig below to every post to this list. I can't see how to do that without creating multiple versions of the same account each with different signatures, or is there a more direct method? -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
2nd item in list stuck as highlighted
Hi all, Well I am using 5.5b2 and am experiencing my first problem: If I switch from whatever mailbox I'm in to a different one, the 2nd email in the list becomes highlighted. It doesn't matter what column I'm sorted by. In fact, if I resort, the 2nd item stays selected (that is, not the same email, just whichever is 2nd in the list). If I click a different email, that one becomes highlighted too, but the 2nd in the list stays highlighted also. It's sticky. I can only get it unhighlighted by selecting it then unselecting it. Quitting and relaunching it solves the problem. Anyone else ever see this? BTW, nice to see that this list now has a 'list-post' header! -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Re: 2nd item in list stuck as highlighted
Yes. I had this problem for a long time, and it stumped PowerMail support. I can't give you specific steps to apply, but I do know it has something to do with number of messages in the database. At the time, I had more than 5,000 messages. For unrelated reasons, I reduced this to about 3,000, and the problem disappeared. RH Sean wrote: If I switch from whatever mailbox I'm in to a different one, the 2nd email in the list becomes highlighted. It doesn't matter what column I'm sorted by. In fact, if I resort, the 2nd item stays selected (that is, not the same email, just whichever is 2nd in the list). If I click a different email, that one becomes highlighted too, but the 2nd in the list stays highlighted also. It's sticky. I can only get it unhighlighted by selecting it then unselecting it. Quitting and relaunching it solves the problem. Anyone else ever see this?
Re: 2nd item in list stuck as highlighted
Hi, I've seen stray emails highlighted, but not in the way described. (switching folders) I'll keep an eye on it and report if I can notice a pattern. More than 31,000 emails in my DB, mostly imported from Eudora. 5.5b2, MacBook Pro, 2GB RAM, OS 10.4.7 Bruce As Richard Hart wrote... Yes. I had this problem for a long time, and it stumped PowerMail support. I can't give you specific steps to apply, but I do know it has something to do with number of messages in the database. At the time, I had more than 5,000 messages. For unrelated reasons, I reduced this to about 3,000, and the problem disappeared. RH Sean wrote: If I switch from whatever mailbox I'm in to a different one, the 2nd email in the list becomes highlighted. It doesn't matter what column I'm sorted by. In fact, if I resort, the 2nd item stays selected (that is, not the same email, just whichever is 2nd in the list). If I click a different email, that one becomes highlighted too, but the 2nd in the list stays highlighted also. It's sticky. I can only get it unhighlighted by selecting it then unselecting it. Quitting and relaunching it solves the problem. Anyone else ever see this?
