Re(2): One other wish for PM6

2008-09-02 Thread Giovanni Andreani
One I would like to se (actually not available in 5.5.3) is the
possibility to share the same email address between different contacts
in the address book, without having to add one empty space before the
copy of an already stored email address.


Giovanni Andreani

PM 5.5.3 | OS X 10.4.11 | Power Mac G5/1.8GHz BiPro | 1GB RAM | 150GB HD



Am/On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:01:25 -0400 schrieb/wrote Sean McBride:

George Henne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-9-1 8:09 PM said:

Here's my biggie:

Threaded emails. When I reply to a message, I want an easy way to see
all the messages already in the thread. Other email programs do this -
and it can't be tough to implement.

Here here!

For me, message threading and database  2 GB are the most desired.

threading, sorting by thread (I have here some guys who do append on any
subject Antwort, others Re etc.)
single file database to support time machine, better handling of html
and rtf mails.
Support for priority and receipts.

Thanks and all the best

Matthias









Re(3): One other wish for PM6

2008-09-02 Thread Alan Harper
I spent a day or so recently attempting to wean myself off PowerMail. I
am so frustrated with its limitations that it really is interfering with
my effectiveness. (As far as I can tell, my frustrations with other
email clients would be worse, so I stay with PowerMail).

But my frustrations are so small, that they could be addressed in a
5.6.6 rev. They are:

1) Index html emails.

2) For emails that do not have a name in the From field, guess the name
from the Address Book, and include the guessed name in the index and in
the From column. This way when I am looking for emails from Bruce, I
don't need to search on Bruce1954yahoo or whatever he was using that year!

3) Don't be so eager to check email. When I wake up my laptop, wait a
few seconds before checking and let the wireless connection come up.

4) Give me one error message when you can't get email (because, eg,
wireless is down). Don't give me one modal dialog for each account! Even
better, use Growl.

5) Stop random crashes.

OK, granted, 5 is not necessarily an easy fix--but the other 4 should be
2 days' work, or less!

A

Giovanni Andreani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said on 9/2/08:


One I would like to se (actually not available in 5.5.3) is the
possibility to share the same email address between different contacts
in the address book, without having to add one empty space before the
copy of an already stored email address.


Giovanni Andreani

PM 5.5.3 | OS X 10.4.11 | Power Mac G5/1.8GHz BiPro | 1GB RAM | 150GB HD



Am/On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:01:25 -0400 schrieb/wrote Sean McBride:

George Henne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-9-1 8:09 PM said:

Here's my biggie:

Threaded emails. When I reply to a message, I want an easy way to see
all the messages already in the thread. Other email programs do this -
and it can't be tough to implement.

Here here!

For me, message threading and database  2 GB are the most desired.

threading, sorting by thread (I have here some guys who do append on any
subject Antwort, others Re etc.)
single file database to support time machine, better handling of html
and rtf mails.
Support for priority and receipts.

Thanks and all the best

Matthias












powermail-discuss Digest #2880 - 09/02/08

2008-09-02 Thread PowerMail discussions
powermail-discuss Digest #2880 - Tuesday, September 2, 2008

  Re: One other wish for PM6
  by Bob Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re(2): One other wish for PM6
  by Bob Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re(2): One other wish for PM6
  by George Henne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re: One other wish for PM6
  by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re: One other wish for PM6
  by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re(2): One other wish for PM6
  by Giovanni Andreani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re(3): One other wish for PM6
  by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject: Re: One other wish for PM6
From: Bob Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:26:20 -0700

On 9/1/08, PowerMail discussions wrote:

Subject: Re: One other wish for PM6
From: Rene Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:56:47 +0200


I do not know this problem.
In such a case my PM sends _all_ other messages from all _other_ accounts.

It seems that your problem has nothing to do with a possible down of
your VPN server but with a down of your general _internet_-connection.
In such a case, of course, PM cannot send any mail to anywhere.

Full internet access the whole time.  Ethernet to a T1 line.  Web
browsing works, fetching email works.

Bob

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Subject: Re(2): One other wish for PM6
From: Bob Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:03:11 -0700

On 9/1/08, Bob Parks wrote:


Full internet access the whole time.  Ethernet to a T1 line.  Web
browsing works, fetching email works.

Bob

Ok, Rene gave me a clue.  I have my send and receive set to do one
account at a time.  In the schedulings dialog, the SMTP has all options
checked.. immediately when queued, when retrieving and before quitting.

With the VPN down, I tried sending a message on a VPN account.  After a
while it timed out and I got a no server error message.  Just like it
should.  I then tried sending an email from a different account.  It
went into the out tray, but there was no attempt to send it (based on
the status bar on the lower corner of the recent mail window.)  Tried
again with a different, non VPN account.  Again, right into the Out
Tray, no error message, nothing showed up on the status bar.

If I go into the Out tray, click on either message to a non VPN account,
click send.. nothing.  If I click on the message to the VPN account it
tries again, and of course times out.

In all cases, I had full internet access, and access to the non VPN mail
servers.  I could retrieve mail just fine, and it works fine on the
scheduled retrieve connections.

If I delete the stalled VPN message from the Out Tray, the other two
messages send immediately.

If I go check send simultaneously in Mail Schedulings, then it works
fine, and the stalled VPN message does not block other accounts.

There are times when I am traveling that I have slow, high latency net
connections, and things really slow down with multiple simultaneous
connections, so I prefer to do one account at a time.

BUT, I think it is still wrong to block all accounts when one account
has a sending error, and its still wrong to not notify the user when the
program cannot do an action that was specifically requested i.e. send an
email when the user says to send it.

Bob
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Subject: Re(2): One other wish for PM6
From: George Henne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:09:33 -0400

Here's my biggie:

Threaded emails. When I reply to a message, I want an easy way to see
all the messages already in the thread. Other email programs do this -
and it can't be tough to implement.

George Henne
NS BASIC Corporation
http://www.nsbasic.com



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Subject: Re: One other wish for PM6
From: Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:01:25 -0400

George Henne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-9-1 8:09 PM said:

Here's my biggie:


Re(4): One other wish for PM6

2008-09-02 Thread Paul Collett
I'd like to see similar changes, too - these are definite annoyances.


On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:26:15 -0700 Alan Harper (by way of Alan Harper
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

3) Don't be so eager to check email. When I wake up my laptop, wait a
few seconds before checking and let the wireless connection come up.

4) Give me one error message when you can't get email (because, eg,
wireless is down). Don't give me one modal dialog for each account! Even
better, use Growl.




Re: One other wish for PM6

2008-09-02 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Am/On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:26:15 -0700 schrieb/wrote Alan Harper (by way
of Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED]):

1) Index html emails.

agreed.


2) For emails that do not have a name in the From field, guess the name
from the Address Book, and include the guessed name in the index and in
the From column. This way when I am looking for emails from Bruce, I
don't need to search on Bruce1954yahoo or whatever he was using that year!

this would be pretty uncommon.
In this case the subject is filled with No subject and this is imho
the correct behaviour.

Maybe an incoming mailfilter could do the rewrite according everyones wishes.


3) Don't be so eager to check email. When I wake up my laptop, wait a
few seconds before checking and let the wireless connection come up.

yes, this might also cure one kind of crash I rarely observe.


4) Give me one error message when you can't get email (because, eg,
wireless is down). Don't give me one modal dialog for each account! Even
better, use Growl.

you can switch the dialog off in the preferences.
Growl sounds like a good idea.


5) Stop random crashes.

I don't see any random crashes.
Crashes I observe are either connected to the IP stack, which stops
responding after the MacBook was asleep or to text encodings in
connection with a strange html mail.



Thanks and all the best

Matthias