Feature Request: TNEF support

2010-12-24 Thread Marco Piovanelli
Hello,

Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail
with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files.  These are
files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport
Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by
Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched,
very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used
by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulation_Format

As much as I personally despise TNEF, I'm getting tired of having
to use third-party tools to manually decode winmail.dat files, and
I'd rather my favorite mail client handled such decoding automatically.

So I'd like to respectfully ask CTM Dev to consider adding support
for automatic TNEF decoding to a future version of PowerMail.


-- marco

--
It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation.
They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely
monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of
ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the
rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.




Re: Feature Request: TNEF support

2010-12-24 Thread Tim Lapin
I'm afraid it has very little to do with PowerMail or indeed any other email 
client *other than* Outlook.  The problem arises when an Outlook user sends an 
attachment with an email that has been sent in RTF format.  Only users of 
Outlook will be able to read that email.  The TNEF format used by Outlook is 
not quite the standard that it should be and as a result we get the mess you 
are experiencing presently.

The solution is to get them to resend that message in either Plain Text 
(preferred) or HTML format.  In order to avoid the problem re-occurring, they 
should change their permanent settings to either Plain Text or HTML.

I have had to reset many of my clients' Outlook settings to deal with this 
issue and no doubt will have to do so in the future.


--
Tim Lapin
t...@sympatico.ca




On 2010-12-24, at 5:50 AM, Marco Piovanelli wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail
 with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files.  These are
 files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport
 Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by
 Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched,
 very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used
 by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulation_Format
 
 As much as I personally despise TNEF, I'm getting tired of having
 to use third-party tools to manually decode winmail.dat files, and
 I'd rather my favorite mail client handled such decoding automatically.
 
 So I'd like to respectfully ask CTM Dev to consider adding support
 for automatic TNEF decoding to a future version of PowerMail.
 
 
-- marco
 
 --
 It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation.
 They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely
 monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of
 ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the
 rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.
 
 
 




Re: Feature Request: TNEF support

2010-12-24 Thread Gruetzner Urs
TNEF is indeed a nightmare.


Consider also  if your EMail Provider can decode already the TNEF. We have our 
own MailServer with Communigate Pro Server and a TNEF decoder from Niversoft. 
Works like a charm.

Urs


Am 24.12.2010 um 11:50 schrieb Marco Piovanelli:

 Hello,
 
 Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail
 with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files.  These are
 files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport
 Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by
 Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched,
 very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used
 by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulation_Format
 
 As much as I personally despise TNEF, I'm getting tired of having
 to use third-party tools to manually decode winmail.dat files, and
 I'd rather my favorite mail client handled such decoding automatically.
 
 So I'd like to respectfully ask CTM Dev to consider adding support
 for automatic TNEF decoding to a future version of PowerMail.
 
 
-- marco
 
 --
 It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation.
 They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely
 monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of
 ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the
 rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.
 
 




Happy Holidays!

2010-12-24 Thread A-NO-NE Music

Happy Holidays!

A few selections from this year's holiday shows:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=AAC08C3FACC6D0E2
Hope you enjoy :-)

--
- Hiro

Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston
http://a-no-ne.com   http://anonemusic.com




powermail-discuss Digest #2915 - 12/24/10

2010-12-24 Thread PowerMail discussions
powermail-discuss Digest #2915 - Friday, December 24, 2010

  Feature Request: TNEF support
  by Marco Piovanelli marco.piovane...@pobox.com
  Re: Feature Request: TNEF support
  by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca
  Re: Feature Request: TNEF support
  by Gruetzner Urs u...@mac.com
  Happy Holidays!
  by A-NO-NE Music anonemu...@mac.com


--

Subject: Feature Request: TNEF support
From: Marco Piovanelli marco.piovane...@pobox.com
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:50:53 +0100

Hello,

Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail
with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files.  These are
files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport
Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by
Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched,
very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used
by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulation_Format

As much as I personally despise TNEF, I'm getting tired of having
to use third-party tools to manually decode winmail.dat files, and
I'd rather my favorite mail client handled such decoding automatically.

So I'd like to respectfully ask CTM Dev to consider adding support
for automatic TNEF decoding to a future version of PowerMail.


-- marco

--
It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation.
They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely
monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of
ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the
rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.


--

Subject: Re: Feature Request: TNEF support
From: Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:04:21 -0500

I'm afraid it has very little to do with PowerMail or indeed any other email 
client *other than* Outlook.  The problem arises when an Outlook user sends an 
attachment with an email that has been sent in RTF format.  Only users of 
Outlook will be able to read that email.  The TNEF format used by Outlook is 
not quite the standard that it should be and as a result we get the mess you 
are experiencing presently.

The solution is to get them to resend that message in either Plain Text 
(preferred) or HTML format.  In order to avoid the problem re-occurring, they 
should change their permanent settings to either Plain Text or HTML.

I have had to reset many of my clients' Outlook settings to deal with this 
issue and no doubt will have to do so in the future.


--
Tim Lapin
t...@sympatico.ca




On 2010-12-24, at 5:50 AM, Marco Piovanelli wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail
 with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files.  These are
 files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport
 Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by
 Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched,
 very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used
 by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulation_Format
 
 As much as I personally despise TNEF, I'm getting tired of having
 to use third-party tools to manually decode winmail.dat files, and
 I'd rather my favorite mail client handled such decoding automatically.
 
 So I'd like to respectfully ask CTM Dev to consider adding support
 for automatic TNEF decoding to a future version of PowerMail.
 
 
-- marco
 
 --
 It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation.
 They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely
 monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of
 ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the
 rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.
 
 
 


--

Subject: Re: Feature Request: TNEF support
From: Gruetzner Urs u...@mac.com
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 17:05:40 +0100

TNEF is indeed a nightmare.


Consider also  if your EMail Provider can decode already the TNEF. We have our 
own MailServer with Communigate Pro Server and a TNEF decoder from Niversoft. 
Works like a charm.

Urs


Am 24.12.2010 um 11:50 schrieb Marco Piovanelli:

 Hello,

 Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail
 with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files.  These are
 files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport
 Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by
 Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched,
 very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used
 by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s.


Re: Happy Holidays!

2010-12-24 Thread Barbara Needham

On 12/24/2010 9:19 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

Happy Holidays!

A few selections from this year's holiday shows:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=AAC08C3FACC6D0E2
Hope you enjoy :-)


Thank you.. once again!