[OT] When should you not tweet?

2009-06-23 Thread Stephen Russell
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Re: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization solutions

2009-06-23 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 On Jun 19, 2009, at 9:36 PM, Gilbert M. Hale wrote:

  Why are others looking into virtual?  $$ or copy paste to new device?
 
  I have saved over $40k going to this architecture thus far, and had
  I needed
  to license VirtualCenter it would have only added maybe $3k more.

 You should also look into Cloud Servers, which are virtual servers
 hosted by Rackspace (http://www.mosso.com/cloudservers.jsp). It's like
 having a server that you manage via remote access: exactly what I'm
 doing in effect with the leafe.com and dabodev.com server, now that
 I'm half a continent away. It costs pennies per hour; an average size
 server is about $40/month, and the cheapest is around $12/month, and
 you have full root access to it. Best of all, if you get a spike in
 traffic, it automatically expands to handle that extra bandwidth, and
 you only pay for what you use. Contrast with physical servers that you
 house on-site: if the traffic to them spikes, you either a) lose
 business or b) pay a lot for extra capacity up-front that you may
 never need.

BTW, every email from this list passes through my cloud server. If
 you are a Dabo user, every web update call runs through it, too, as
 well as all the browserless web app traffic. It was a cheap way to get
 a fixed IP address that I can use as a relay, and a very cheap way of
 getting much more reliability than I can get from my personal
 RoadRunner account. I'm slowly moving more and more of the services on
 my physical box to the cloud server, with the goal of shutting down
 that server before we sell the house.

--

Ed I am considering the combination of 6 servers at this time.

How long will it take to load up into the cloud 25 gig our smallest client
to 250 gig our largest one?  This is all SQL Server data.  Do we upload our
backups and logs and just  restore away?  Or is there another loader for
dealing with the cloud?



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Re: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization solutions

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

 How long will it take to load up into the cloud 25 gig our smallest  
 client
 to 250 gig our largest one?  This is all SQL Server data.  Do we  
 upload our
 backups and logs and just  restore away?  Or is there another loader  
 for
 dealing with the cloud?

I'm sure that load times will be limited by your bandwidth. Once the  
data is there, the servers tend to run as fast or faster than most  
regular servers.

I don't think that they offer Windows servers in the cloud yet; I  
know that they've been negotiating with Microsoft for some time to try  
to come up with a licensing agreement that will make that possible.

I would suggest going to the website and opening up a chat session  
for more specific answers, as I'm not anywhere near an expert on these  
things. Yes, those are real techs in San Antonio on the other end, not  
a bot or an offshore contractor.


-- Ed Leafe




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VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Jack Skelley
Good Morning All:
I guess I am missing something...
I have an app as an .exe on a server. When a user runs the app across the 
network it reports that the runtime is not found. When I run the app from the 
server there are no issues. Or if I run the app across the network there are no 
issues (of course my box has the runtime on it).
I am assuming the runtime needs to be on each user's machine. Or what did I 
miss so that the server supplies the runtime for the user?
Regards,

Jack Skelley
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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Allen
Did you try the runtimes in the exe directory ?
Al

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Behalf Of Jack Skelley
Sent: 23 June 2009 15:38
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: VFP9: Runtime

Good Morning All:
I guess I am missing something...
I have an app as an .exe on a server. When a user runs the app across the
network it reports that the runtime is not found. When I run the app from
the server there are no issues. Or if I run the app across the network there
are no issues (of course my box has the runtime on it).
I am assuming the runtime needs to be on each user's machine. Or what did I
miss so that the server supplies the runtime for the user?
Regards,

Jack Skelley



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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Jack Skelley
Al:
No. The app was installed on the server so 'I thought' the app could find them 
in the system folder.
I will try it.
Thanks.
Regards,

Jack



From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Allen [pro...@gatwicksoftware.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:47 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP9: Runtime

Did you try the runtimes in the exe directory ?
Al

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Sent: 23 June 2009 15:38
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: VFP9: Runtime

Good Morning All:
I guess I am missing something...
I have an app as an .exe on a server. When a user runs the app across the
network it reports that the runtime is not found. When I run the app from
the server there are no issues. Or if I run the app across the network there
are no issues (of course my box has the runtime on it).
I am assuming the runtime needs to be on each user's machine. Or what did I
miss so that the server supplies the runtime for the user?
Regards,

Jack Skelley



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Re: DynamicBackColor in Grid Column

2009-06-23 Thread Philip Borkholder
Hi Ted,
yes, the speed was ok before I put the condition in the columns.
heres is my code:
.DYNAMICBACKCOLOR = [IIF(csrOpen-outcol={} OR 
csrOpen-incol={},RGB(255,255,0),THIS.BACKCOLOR)]

It's strange because I've used dynamicbackcolor many times before. This 
time I'm customizing existing screens in an application the customer had 
purchased from someone else.

Any ideas on maybe the screen repainting itself or something?

Thanks,
Philip

Ted Roche wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Philip Borkholderplbor...@netzero.net 
 wrote:
   
 Does anyone know why when I put a condition in the DynamicBackcolor on
 grid columns the whole screen is now taking for ever to refresh and it's
 almost like something is spinning before you can click on a column...
 Does it repaint itself several times?
 is there a setting to stop this time consumption?

 

 What's the expression you have in the DynamicBackColor?

 If you remove it, can you click on a column immediately?


   

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Re: DynamicBackColor in Grid Column

2009-06-23 Thread Philip Borkholder
SCRATCH THAT. :)
Today it is running just fine!
Must have been coincidental last night and something else must have 
kicked in on the server to slow things done... geeezzz :)
-Philip

Philip Borkholder wrote:
 Hi Ted,
 yes, the speed was ok before I put the condition in the columns.
 heres is my code:
 .DYNAMICBACKCOLOR = [IIF(csrOpen-outcol={} OR 
 csrOpen-incol={},RGB(255,255,0),THIS.BACKCOLOR)]

 It's strange because I've used dynamicbackcolor many times before. This 
 time I'm customizing existing screens in an application the customer had 
 purchased from someone else.

 Any ideas on maybe the screen repainting itself or something?

 Thanks,
 Philip

 Ted Roche wrote:
   
 On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Philip Borkholderplbor...@netzero.net 
 wrote:
   
 
 Does anyone know why when I put a condition in the DynamicBackcolor on
 grid columns the whole screen is now taking for ever to refresh and it's
 almost like something is spinning before you can click on a column...
 Does it repaint itself several times?
 is there a setting to stop this time consumption?

 
   
 What's the expression you have in the DynamicBackColor?

 If you remove it, can you click on a column immediately?


   
 

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RE: Report Form - LARGE Point Size Req'd

2009-06-23 Thread Kurt Wendt
Stephen - thanks for your suggestion. In the end, this is essentially what I 
did. In the report form - when you put an image on it - the image referene cam 
also come from a GENERAL type variable - and that is what I did - and got to 
work with the General field type for the first time. It all worked out, and my 
Tech's were QUITE happy and impressed by my solution - since one of the other 
programmers there Gave Up and said it couldn't be done!!! Too bad that person, 
and some of the others - are UnAble to Think outside the Box!

:-)
-K-



-Original Message-
From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com on behalf of Stephen Russell
Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 3:20 PM
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Kurt Wendt kurtwe...@waitex.com wrote:
 Hey folks,
 There is this Palet Label that I am working on - and I just got word
 that a large number on the Form must be set to 150  points...
 -


Use a Graphic image instead of the # in your form.  Granted you have to
figure out how to switch them on the fly but that is why we make the
mediocre money isn't it?

I did that in a VB 6 form a few years ago.  I got the value and copied the
graphic representation of that #'s file over the existing version of it.
bigNum.jpg

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Re: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization solutions

2009-06-23 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Ed Leafe wrote:
snipped
Yes, those are real techs in San Antonio on the other end, not
 a bot or an offshore contractor.


So nice and refreshing to hear these kinds of things, on many levels.

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President, Chief Software Architect
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Re: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Vince Teachout
Jack Skelley wrote:
 Good Morning All:
 I guess I am missing something...
 I have an app as an .exe on a server. When a user runs the app across the 
 network it reports that the runtime is not found. When I run the app from the 
 server there are no issues. Or if I run the app across the network there are 
 no issues (of course my box has the runtime on it).
 I am assuming the runtime needs to be on each user's machine. Or what did I 
 miss so that the server supplies the runtime for the user?
 Regards,
 

The runtimes have to be installed on the client machine(s).

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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Jack Skelley
Vince:
Thanks

Jack



From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Vince Teachout [tea...@taconic.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:54 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP9: Runtime

Jack Skelley wrote:
 Good Morning All:
 I guess I am missing something...
 I have an app as an .exe on a server. When a user runs the app across the 
 network it reports that the runtime is not found. When I run the app from the 
 server there are no issues. Or if I run the app across the network there are 
 no issues (of course my box has the runtime on it).
 I am assuming the runtime needs to be on each user's machine. Or what did I 
 miss so that the server supplies the runtime for the user?
 Regards,


The runtimes have to be installed on the client machine(s).
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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Jerry Foote
Speaking of runtimes.
When I upgrade from sp1 to sp2 do I have to do any thing with runtimes on
client machine other than supply new exe.
Jerry

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Of Jack Skelley
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:27 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP9: Runtime

Vince:
Thanks

Jack



From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Vince Teachout [tea...@taconic.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:54 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP9: Runtime

Jack Skelley wrote:
 Good Morning All:
 I guess I am missing something...
 I have an app as an .exe on a server. When a user runs the app across the
network it reports that the runtime is not found. When I run the app from
the server there are no issues. Or if I run the app across the network there
are no issues (of course my box has the runtime on it).
 I am assuming the runtime needs to be on each user's machine. Or what did
I miss so that the server supplies the runtime for the user?
 Regards,


The runtimes have to be installed on the client machine(s).
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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Alan Bourke
Yep, you have to upgrade the VFP runtimes on all the clients also.

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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Schummer
 The runtimes have to be installed on the client machine(s).

False. While they can be installed on the workstation and the performance is
marginally better, they can be installed on the server in the app folder.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com




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RE: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization solutions

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Schummer
  I don't think that they offer Windows servers in the cloud yet; I
know that they've been negotiating with Microsoft for some time to try to
come up with a licensing agreement that will make that possible.

Good thing Ed is not in sales g, but his advice is good to chat with a
rep.

I am working with a Windows 2003 server in the Rackspace cloud with SQL
Server Express loaded. My client is paying an arm and a leg for it though,
but for my client it is worth the expense for their business. It is a real
nice setup so far.

Amazon's cloud seems like better pricing. 

I cannot compare the service or the offerings though since I am a third
party in all of this.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
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Re: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Vince Teachout
Rick Schummer wrote:
 The runtimes have to be installed on the client machine(s).
 
 False. While they can be installed on the workstation and the performance is
 marginally better, they can be installed on the server in the app folder.


Indeed?  Thank you, I didn't know that!

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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Jack Skelley
Rick:
Thanks!
Regards,

Jack


From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Schummer [pro...@whitelightcomputing.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:35 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP9: Runtime

 The runtimes have to be installed on the client machine(s).

False. While they can be installed on the workstation and the performance is
marginally better, they can be installed on the server in the app folder.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com




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Re: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization solutions

2009-06-23 Thread Paul McNett
Ed Leafe wrote:
   I don't think that they offer Windows servers in the cloud yet; I  
 know that they've been negotiating with Microsoft for some time to try  
 to come up with a licensing agreement that will make that possible.

So what you do is get a Linux setup on the Rackspace cloud, set up VMWare 
server and 
a remote console to it. Then install Windows to a VMWare host on that server.

Or, evaluate migrating to PostgreSQL, Firebird, MySQL, or another free 
enterprise-class database server and eliminate the hassle and overhead of 
maintaining 
a Windows host simply to provide a database server.

If you do install Windows in this way, make sure you either shut down the 
Server and 
Workstation services as they cause lots of unneeded chatter on the network 
which 
you'll probably get dinged for.

Maybe the best way to avoid chatter and protect the SQL Server installation 
would be 
to set the firewall on the Linux host to *only* allow port 1433 in and out to 
the 
Windows VM.

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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

Supreme Court Denies DNA Evidence To Potentially Innocent Man

 http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/06/18/scotus-dna/
 ( -or- http://bit.ly/eDCMT )

Imagine that: evidence exists that could either exonerate an
 innocent
 man, or verify a guilty man's conviction, but Chief Justice John
 Roberts because it might risk overthrowing the established system of
 justice.

Think about that: not rocking the boat is more important than
 freeing
 an innocent man.

The damage of the Bush administration continues to mount...

---

I thought that it was a move to STOP every blasted incarcerated person from
filing a motion that demands a retrial.

The cost to taxpayers for repeat performances would cripple just about any
county, or city court system.

Second part is there enough evidence remaining that both sides can make
their own tests?  Or is there just enough for one side?

Do I think it is wrong?  Possibly.  Why?  Because for every 100 imprisoned
persons who yells that they are innocent, is there one or maybe five of them
that are correct.  So we have to go through everyone to find the one?

-- 
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2009-06-23 Thread Michael Madigan

[OT] George Tiller was terminated in his 203rd trimester  Ann Coulter


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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

 I thought that it was a move to STOP every blasted incarcerated  
 person from
 filing a motion that demands a retrial.

No, not at all. DNA evidence that was not available at his trial is  
now available, and he has offered to pick up the tab for the test. If  
it matches, things stay the same. If not, there is proof that he was  
incorrectly incarcerated, and the state has a vital interest in  
maintaining the liberty of its innocent citizens.

 The cost to taxpayers for repeat performances would cripple just  
 about any
 county, or city court system.

That's a silly red herring. The cost to society for refusing to free  
innocent people is much higher.

 Second part is there enough evidence remaining that both sides can  
 make
 their own tests?  Or is there just enough for one side?

???

Are you reaching for straws here? He has offered to pay for the  
*state* to do the test.

 Do I think it is wrong?  Possibly.  Why?  Because for every 100  
 imprisoned
 persons who yells that they are innocent, is there one or maybe five  
 of them
 that are correct.  So we have to go through everyone to find the one?


Again, it would really help if you read the actual article before  
making ridiculous statements such as this. There are very few cases  
where conclusive evidence that was not available at trial is later  
made available. Performing the test will cost the state *nothing*.


-- Ed Leafe




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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Bill Anderson
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 Supreme Court Denies DNA Evidence To Potentially Innocent Man
 
  http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/06/18/scotus-dna/
  ( -or- http://bit.ly/eDCMT )
 
 Imagine that: evidence exists that could either exonerate an
  innocent
  man, or verify a guilty man's conviction, but Chief Justice John
  Roberts because it might risk overthrowing the established system of
  justice.
 
 Think about that: not rocking the boat is more important than
  freeing
  an innocent man.
 
 The damage of the Bush administration continues to mount...
 
 ---

 I thought that it was a move to STOP every blasted incarcerated person from
 filing a motion that demands a retrial.

 The cost to taxpayers for repeat performances would cripple just about any
 county, or city court system.

 Second part is there enough evidence remaining that both sides can make
 their own tests?  Or is there just enough for one side?

 Do I think it is wrong?  Possibly.  Why?  Because for every 100 imprisoned
 persons who yells that they are innocent, is there one or maybe five of
 them
 that are correct.  So we have to go through everyone to find the one?


Steve,

I think you missed the point of this.

The convicted didn't ask for the state or the federal government to pay for
his DNA test. He was disallowed from paying for his DNA test out of his own
pocket.

Bill


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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
Hi

Let me get this straight, you run a program that resides on a server
from a workstation and the OS of the workstation knows the DLLs required
is residing on the server ?

I cannot test this at the moment, but I am almost sure that's not the case.

E.


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Re: [OT] When should you not tweet?

2009-06-23 Thread Michael Madigan

One less idiot to breed!  

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 Subject: [OT] When should you not tweet?
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 5:45 PM
 http://www.austriantimes.at/index.php?id=14023
 
 
 
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 Independent Contractor
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 901.246-0159
 
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Re: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread KAM.covad
This is true. Years ago with FoxproDos we experimented with having the 
libraries and our EXE on the local workstation and found that it made very 
little or no performance difference and was not worth the support effort. We 
always install the dll  ocx with our EXE and it has worked with every fox 
version through vfp9 sp1. 

You do need to register many of the dll and ocx on every local machine, but 
they can be located on the server. 

We find the single most important factor in performance with vfp (and our 
program of course) is the amount of memory you have. There are a lot of rumors 
out there about how much memory you can have on this or that os. We put 4 gb on 
xp sp2 and we find that it will show at least 3.35 gb and so it is worth the 
cost if you need performance. Fox is a memory hog, so you may realize decreased 
performance on the startup because it is loading programs, however, once your 
program is running, we find the performance is much improved. We have done a 
lot of tests (with our software only) over the years.


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Schummer 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: VFP9: Runtime


 The runtimes have to be installed on the client machine(s).

False. While they can be installed on the workstation and the performance is
marginally better, they can be installed on the server in the app folder.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

  I thought that it was a move to STOP every blasted incarcerated
  person from
  filing a motion that demands a retrial.

 No, not at all. DNA evidence that was not available at his trial is
 now available, and he has offered to pick up the tab for the test. If
 it matches, things stay the same. If not, there is proof that he was
 incorrectly incarcerated, and the state has a vital interest in
 maintaining the liberty of its innocent citizens.

--

This was days ago that I heard this on the radio but the test is more
precise then what was used back in the day for this case.

Yes skillet will pick up the tab for his test first.  This could only set a
precedent if any skillet was demand a retest.

This could tie up every lab in USA, CA, GB, just to go through all of our
old cases let alone all the current testing we need today becasue we are all
as good as CSI on a local level.  ;0




  The cost to taxpayers for repeat performances would cripple just
  about any
  county, or city court system.

 That's a silly red herring. The cost to society for refusing to
 free
 innocent people is much higher.

  Second part is there enough evidence remaining that both sides can
  make
  their own tests?  Or is there just enough for one side?

 ???

-

Evidence collected from the 80s and the 90s in not only fragile, it may also
be in short supply.  So if there was enough for only 1 test, would it be
fair in today's  court system to not let the other side have a crack with
their team doing the test.




Are you reaching for straws here? He has offered to pay for the
 *state* to do the test.

--

No, he was going to do the test on his nickle to see if he had the change to
clear his name.  At that time he would mount a new motion.



  Do I think it is wrong?  Possibly.  Why?  Because for every 100
  imprisoned
  persons who yells that they are innocent, is there one or maybe five
  of them
  that are correct.  So we have to go through everyone to find the one?


 Again, it would really help if you read the actual article before
 making ridiculous statements such as this. There are very few cases
 where conclusive evidence that was not available at trial is later
 made available. Performing the test will cost the state *nothing*.
 ---


I heard a long story on this subject either in the car driving or at home
via TV.



-- 
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Sr. Production Systems Programmer
SQL Server DBA
Web and Winform Development
Independent Contractor
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901.246-0159


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RE: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Schummer
 Let me get this straight, you run a program that resides on a server from
a workstation and the OS of the workstation knows the DLLs required is
residing on the server ?

I cannot test this at the moment, but I am almost sure that's not the
case.

As long as the runtime files are in the application folder you are fine. If
you load them into the common files folder under Program Files it will not
run. VFP is searching the app folder, common files and probably the System32
folder for the runtime files.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com




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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Stephen Russell wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

   
Supreme Court Denies DNA Evidence To Potentially Innocent Man

 http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/06/18/scotus-dna/
 ( -or- http://bit.ly/eDCMT )

Imagine that: evidence exists that could either exonerate an
 innocent
 man, or verify a guilty man's conviction, but Chief Justice John
 Roberts because it might risk overthrowing the established system of
 justice.

Think about that: not rocking the boat is more important than
 freeing
 an innocent man.

The damage of the Bush administration continues to mount...

 
 ---

 I thought that it was a move to STOP every blasted incarcerated person from
 filing a motion that demands a retrial.

 The cost to taxpayers for repeat performances would cripple just about any
 county, or city court system.

 Second part is there enough evidence remaining that both sides can make
 their own tests?  Or is there just enough for one side?

 Do I think it is wrong?  Possibly.  Why?  Because for every 100 imprisoned
 persons who yells that they are innocent, is there one or maybe five of them
 that are correct.  So we have to go through everyone to find the one?

   
Facts, facts! Always facts before opinion! How much does a DNA test 
cost? How much does keeping an inmate cost per year? How many more years 
must he be in jail? After you answer these question there will probably 
not be much room for opinion.



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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Stephen Russell wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

   
 On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

 
 I thought that it was a move to STOP every blasted incarcerated
 person from
 filing a motion that demands a retrial.
   
 No, not at all. DNA evidence that was not available at his trial is
 now available, and he has offered to pick up the tab for the test. If
 it matches, things stay the same. If not, there is proof that he was
 incorrectly incarcerated, and the state has a vital interest in
 maintaining the liberty of its innocent citizens.

 
 --

 This was days ago that I heard this on the radio but the test is more
 precise then what was used back in the day for this case.

 Yes skillet will pick up the tab for his test first.  This could only set a
 precedent if any skillet was demand a retest.

 This could tie up every lab in USA, CA, GB, just to go through all of our
 old cases let alone all the current testing we need today becasue we are all
 as good as CSI on a local level.  ;0
   
Opinions again! Could, would! How many other people would request this? 
You actually have NO idea whatsoever!
Besides which, it's a simple matter of setting priorities. You instruct 
labs to give current testing a higher priority.
Or you could let the market regulate itself... ;cP



   
 The cost to taxpayers for repeat performances would cripple just
 about any
 county, or city court system.
   
 That's a silly red herring. The cost to society for refusing to
 free
 innocent people is much higher.

 
 Second part is there enough evidence remaining that both sides can
 make
 their own tests?  Or is there just enough for one side?
   
 ???
 

 -

 Evidence collected from the 80s and the 90s in not only fragile, it may also
 be in short supply.  So if there was enough for only 1 test, would it be
 fair in today's  court system to not let the other side have a crack with
 their team doing the test.



   
Are you reaching for straws here? He has offered to pay for the
 *state* to do the test.

 
 --

 No, he was going to do the test on his nickle to see if he had the change to
 clear his name.  At that time he would mount a new motion.


   
 Do I think it is wrong?  Possibly.  Why?  Because for every 100
 imprisoned
 persons who yells that they are innocent, is there one or maybe five
 of them
 that are correct.  So we have to go through everyone to find the one?
   
 Again, it would really help if you read the actual article before
 making ridiculous statements such as this. There are very few cases
 where conclusive evidence that was not available at trial is later
 made available. Performing the test will cost the state *nothing*.
 ---

 

 I heard a long story on this subject either in the car driving or at home
 via TV.



   



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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Stephen Russell
2009/6/23 Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com


 Facts, facts! Always facts before opinion! How much does a DNA test
 cost? How much does keeping an inmate cost per year? How many more years
 must he be in jail? After you answer these question there will probably
 not be much room for opinion.

--

2006 article states that DNA is in thousand $ range.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0921-08.htm


Other sites on paternity state that the high cost is for proof of sample
being secure through the whole process, or security of sample costs as much
as the base test does.

So should this be only for the rich?  If you can afford it you pay for it at
an approved lab?  Sucks if you have not had a job in 20 years because you
have been in jail that long.

Or do you let the people who can pay for it go first?  Then when that volume
is null then put in the poor folks?  I know it is the American Way!

What if there is not enough substance left for a comparison?  Are you now
screwed?

This brings a whole lot of OBTW issues up.  Proper storage of specimens from
the early 80s.  Can you sue the government because the evidence is now
worthless?

If someone were to win on that stupid notion, aka O Jay, does everyone get a
monopoly get out of jail free card?



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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 23, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

 This could tie up every lab in USA, CA, GB, just to go through all  
 of our
 old cases let alone all the current testing we need today becasue we  
 are all
 as good as CSI on a local level.  ;0

Ah, yes. Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone in your family was  
falsely imprisoned! I'm sure that you would rest comfortably, knowing  
that their unjust loss of freedom is making the life of lab owners  
that much more manageable.

 Evidence collected from the 80s and the 90s in not only fragile, it  
 may also
 be in short supply.  So if there was enough for only 1 test, would  
 it be
 fair in today's  court system to not let the other side have a crack  
 with
 their team doing the test.

First off, you're making up a condition that doesn't exist. Second,  
even if only one test could be done, he is willing to let the state  
perform the test on his dime. So there is no conflict here.

 No, he was going to do the test on his nickle to see if he had the  
 change to
 clear his name.  At that time he would mount a new motion.

Of course there would be a new motion if the test showed that the  
conviction was wrong. There is no other process available for freeing  
an unjustly convicted citizen.

 I heard a long story on this subject either in the car driving or at  
 home
 via TV.

And that means what?

Slippery Slope arguments are pretty weak when you have a specific  
case in front of you. The comment above about imagining that it were  
one of your own loved ones instead of an anonymous nobody isn't just  
meant to be snarky; instead, such humanizing exercises are a great  
example of just how lame such abstract arguments are.


-- Ed Leafe




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Re: [OT] When should you not tweet?

2009-06-23 Thread Philip Borkholder
Definately should win a Darwin award this year

Michael Madigan wrote:
 One less idiot to breed!  

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 Subject: [OT] When should you not tweet?
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 Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 5:45 PM
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 Web and Winform Development
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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 On Jun 23, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

  This could tie up every lab in USA, CA, GB, just to go through all
  of our
  old cases let alone all the current testing we need today becasue we
  are all
  as good as CSI on a local level.  ;0

 Ah, yes. Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone in your family was
 falsely imprisoned! I'm sure that you would rest comfortably, knowing
 that their unjust loss of freedom is making the life of lab owners
 that much more manageable.

--

Honestly Ed how many people in prison say that they are falsely imprisoned?

I have no idea what population % this involves.  Out of the people just for
murder could this strike 20% or 50%?  Once again I have no idea.

The more we talk about this the more absurd the conversation becomes.  You
honor the rights of the semi dead and will go the limit for just one of
them.  On the flip side when it comes to termination of the unborn you have
a no problem attitude.

So far I am just proposing facts about why the judge ruled the way he did,
from a management POV not a humans incarcerated one.

Problem is our country is such a knee jerk reactionary personality I feel
that we open up a huge can of worms when we consider extracting out of
sedintary hell the tenth of one precent who are truely innocent.  The
quagmire/nightmare that it could generate is huge.  I guess it is like
knowing that you are going to take losses from friendly fire.  It doesn't
stop you from fighting, you just accept it and continue.

Have to deal with car getting worked on.

ttfn.
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Sr. Production Systems Programmer
SQL Server DBA
Web and Winform Development
Independent Contractor
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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 13:45 2009-06-23, you wrote:
On Jun 23, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

  This could tie up every lab in USA, CA, GB, just to go through all
  of our
  old cases let alone all the current testing we need today becasue we
  are all
  as good as CSI on a local level.  ;0

 Ah, yes. Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone in your family was
falsely imprisoned! I'm sure that you would rest comfortably, knowing
that their unjust loss of freedom is making the life of lab owners
that much more manageable.

  Well, no.  The lab owners do not get as much business.  That 
could cause difficulties in the current economic climate.  It is 
helpful for the government to save money though.

  Ed is being too easy on you:

  Mr. Russell, what if YOU were imprisoned for a crime that you 
did not commit?  Would you want to be freed?

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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Re: [OT] Twisted notion of justice

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 23, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

 Honestly Ed how many people in prison say that they are falsely  
 imprisoned?

Probably most. So what?

 I have no idea what population % this involves.  Out of the people  
 just for
 murder could this strike 20% or 50%?  Once again I have no idea.

Again, so what?

 The more we talk about this the more absurd the conversation  
 becomes.  You
 honor the rights of the semi dead and will go the limit for just one  
 of
 them.  On the flip side when it comes to termination of the unborn  
 you have
 a no problem attitude.

Semi-dead? Abortion?

Absurd is an understatement. I'm done.


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Generating GUIDs for primary keys in your app (VFP9SP2)

2009-06-23 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
I like to design in n-tier fashion, so that I can use either a VFP or 
non-VFP (like MySQL) backend on the flip of a switch.

I'm creating a new framework that will use GUID primary keys instead of 
integers.

My question is this:  is it best to generate those GUIDs from the app or 
use some stored proc in the database?  I'm thinking the former should 
suffice, but of course I have slight concern of some freak occurrence of 
the same string key.  Very remote chance probably, but I like to be sure 
and use the best practice if possible.

Tia!

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MB Software Solutions, LLC
President, Chief Software Architect
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Re: Generating GUIDs for primary keys in your app (VFP9SP2)

2009-06-23 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
 I like to design in n-tier fashion, so that I can use either a VFP or 
 non-VFP (like MySQL) backend on the flip of a switch.
 
 I'm creating a new framework that will use GUID primary keys instead of 
 integers.
 
 My question is this:  is it best to generate those GUIDs from the app or 
 use some stored proc in the database?  I'm thinking the former should 
 suffice, but of course I have slight concern of some freak occurrence of 
 the same string key.  Very remote chance probably, but I like to be sure 
 and use the best practice if possible.

The very definition of GUID is that they are guaranteed to be unique.

I generate them in the app, so my app is as database-agnostic as possible.

Paul


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Re: Generating GUIDs for primary keys in your app (VFP9SP2)

2009-06-23 Thread Steve Ellenoff
What kind of performance penalty is there compared to integers when 
doing joins?

At 07:32 PM 06/23/2009, you wrote:
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
  I like to design in n-tier fashion, so that I can use either a VFP or
  non-VFP (like MySQL) backend on the flip of a switch.
 
  I'm creating a new framework that will use GUID primary keys instead of
  integers.
 
  My question is this:  is it best to generate those GUIDs from the app or
  use some stored proc in the database?  I'm thinking the former should
  suffice, but of course I have slight concern of some freak occurrence of
  the same string key.  Very remote chance probably, but I like to be sure
  and use the best practice if possible.

The very definition of GUID is that they are guaranteed to be unique.

I generate them in the app, so my app is as database-agnostic as possible.

Paul


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Re: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization solutions

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Rick Schummer wrote:

 I don't think that they offer Windows servers in the cloud yet; I
 know that they've been negotiating with Microsoft for some time to  
 try to
 come up with a licensing agreement that will make that possible.

 Good thing Ed is not in sales g, but his advice is good to chat  
 with a
 rep.

 I am working with a Windows 2003 server in the Rackspace cloud with  
 SQL
 Server Express loaded. My client is paying an arm and a leg for it  
 though,
 but for my client it is worth the expense for their business. It is  
 a real
 nice setup so far.

Right now the Rackspace Cloud offers the following Cloud Servers:

CentOS (2 versions)
Gentoo
Debian
Fedora (2 versions)
Ubuntu (3 versions)
Arch
RedHat Enterprise

They do not offer Win2K3 cloud servers. You might be thinking of  
Rackspace Cloud *Sites*, which do offer Windows options. However,  
these are not servers: you cannot shell into them, add/remove  
software, change configurations, access the file system, etc. With a  
Cloud Server, you have a virtual machine that you interact with  
identically to any other box. With my current situation of being 1700  
miles away from the leafe.com box in my house, I work with both that  
physical box and my cloud sites exactly the same way; the experience  
is the same.


-- Ed Leafe




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RE: Generating GUIDs for primary keys in your app (VFP9SP2)

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Schummer
 I generate them in the app, so my app is as database-agnostic as
possible.

Me too. Saves me time maintaining different code bases in different stored
procedure languages. I also like controlling the timing of the keys so I can
use and propagate as needed.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com




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Re: Generating GUIDs for primary keys in your app (VFP9SP2)

2009-06-23 Thread Paul McNett
Steve Ellenoff wrote:
 What kind of performance penalty is there compared to integers when 
 doing joins?

I'm not sure if there's any penalty or benefit, or what that penalty/benefit 
would 
be. I've never had the need to profile my join performance.

Paul

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Re: Generating GUIDs for primary keys in your app (VFP9SP2)

2009-06-23 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote:
 I generate them in the app, so my app is as database-agnostic as
 possible.
 
 Me too. Saves me time maintaining different code bases in different stored
 procedure languages. I also like controlling the timing of the keys so I can
 use and propagate as needed.

Oh YEAH? :)

I don't use stored procedures/referential integrity at all in the database. The 
database is merely a container for me.

Paul

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RE: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization solutions

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Schummer
  They do not offer Win2K3 cloud servers. You might be thinking of
Rackspace Cloud *Sites*, which do offer Windows options. However, these are
not servers: you cannot shell into them, add/remove software, change
configurations, access the file system, etc. With a Cloud Server, you have a
virtual machine that you interact with identically to any other box. With my
current situation of being 1700 miles away from the leafe.com box in my
house, I work with both that physical box and my cloud sites exactly the
same way; the experience is the same.

Like I said, I am a third party to this process, but I am running a
rackspace device that has on it SQL Server 2005,  and VFP 9 SP2 latest
hotfixes (which we loaded) and some data, programs, etc. I remote desktop
into this cloud server/site/box. Maybe this is a managed hosting device
instead of a virtual machine, but the arrangement smells a lot like the one
you get from the Amazon cloud.


Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com


-Original Message-
From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
Behalf Of Ed Leafe
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:52 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization
solutions

On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Rick Schummer wrote:

 I don't think that they offer Windows servers in the cloud yet; I
 know that they've been negotiating with Microsoft for some time to  
 try to
 come up with a licensing agreement that will make that possible.

 Good thing Ed is not in sales g, but his advice is good to chat  
 with a
 rep.

 I am working with a Windows 2003 server in the Rackspace cloud with  
 SQL
 Server Express loaded. My client is paying an arm and a leg for it  
 though,
 but for my client it is worth the expense for their business. It is  
 a real
 nice setup so far.

Right now the Rackspace Cloud offers the following Cloud Servers:

CentOS (2 versions)
Gentoo
Debian
Fedora (2 versions)
Ubuntu (3 versions)
Arch
RedHat Enterprise

They do not offer Win2K3 cloud servers. You might be thinking of  
Rackspace Cloud *Sites*, which do offer Windows options. However,  
these are not servers: you cannot shell into them, add/remove  
software, change configurations, access the file system, etc. With a  
Cloud Server, you have a virtual machine that you interact with  
identically to any other box. With my current situation of being 1700  
miles away from the leafe.com box in my house, I work with both that  
physical box and my cloud sites exactly the same way; the experience  
is the same.


-- Ed Leafe




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Bad/missing HAL.DLL

2009-06-23 Thread Charles Hart Enzer, M.D., FAACP
*Since the movers brought my Desktop PC to my new office, the PC has 
been slow, etc.

**Machine seemed to be ok;  but when Selecting [Safe Mode], two choices:
*

* *Window XP Professional*
* *Window (default)*

*The OEM **Support said that this means I have two operating systems.
*
*I asked PowerSpec -- the OEM -- to do a total restore with their OEM 
Recovery DVD.

They had me delete the Master Boot Record.  Then Quick Restore
**
They had me do another quick recovery.

Afterwards, same two choices in Safe Mode.

I looked in [boot.ini]:
*

[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT=Microsoft Windows XP
Professional /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

*I then search for an [ini] file with [WINNT].  In addition to 
[boot.ini] there were two for drivers in 
C:\Powerspec\Drivers\MB\ATI_RC4\Driver:
*

* *C2_3159.INI*
* *CX_3159.INI*

*Support said either:
*

* *Bad hardrive*
* *Bad cable
  *

*I see these options:
*

* *Use Recovery Console from UC's XP CD and EXPAND hal.dll from CD's
  i386*
* *From UC's CD and Recovery Console, **bootcfg /rebuild*
* *From UC's CD and Recovery Console, **fixmbr*
* *From UC's CD do a Clean Install
  *
* *Try another cable*
* *Test/New Harddrive*
* *New Machine
  *

*Anything else?

And please list steps in sequence.

Thank you.*

-- *Charles *--
Website: *http://homepages.uc.edu/ 
http://homepages.uc.edu/%7Eenzerch~enzerch 
http://homepages.uc.edu/%7Eenzerch*


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