[OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend

2010-11-02 Thread Michael Madigan
Nobody gives a sh*t about other people.  If you live in a cave you can do what 
you want, if you're in public WEAR DEODORANT AND SHOWER. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/31/fashion/31Unwashed.html?_r=3pagewanted=all

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[OT] About that car-in-the-ditch analogy...

2010-11-02 Thread Publius Maximus
http://bit.ly/avSMvw

- - -

Michael Ramirez is, as usual, spot on. :)

- Publius

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It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country,
under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object
of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to
subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign
powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of
them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be
avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose
situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful
and vigilant performance of the trust. [Federalist Papers #59]

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Re: [OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend

2010-11-02 Thread Nicholas Geti
A long while ago when I was on a consulting job the gang and I went to a 
local bar where two French ladies were playing pool. We went over to join 
them but their smell was so bad I choked and had to leave. The French don't 
believe in showers.


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Subject: [OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend


 Nobody gives a sh*t about other people.  If you live in a cave you can do 
 what you want, if you're in public WEAR DEODORANT AND SHOWER.

 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/31/fashion/31Unwashed.html?_r=3pagewanted=all

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Would you work on one of these?

2010-11-02 Thread Stephen Russell
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/02/lg-h1000b-windows-7-tablet-emerges-at-fcc-mystifies-in-almost-e/

Not sure you could load VFP, but it might take an SD card.

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[OT] I am so proud of our little town

2010-11-02 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
Just for anyone's amusement. This is what happens when you have a
small-town power bloc. Ignore the headline, the stuff that happened
here had *nothing* to do with taxes. Nobody campaigned on that issue.
No way to hook a Liberal or Conservative label on anyone. The only
label that applies is Wingnut.

 -- http://tinyurl.com/2ezweps

or: http://www.twincities.com/ci_16486634

Ken

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Re: [OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend

2010-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net wrote:
 A long while ago when I was on a consulting job the gang and I went to a
 local bar where two French ladies were playing pool. We went over to join
 them but their smell was so bad I choked and had to leave. The French don't
 believe in showers.

Yeah but they sure do look better.

A+
jml

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[OT]test

2010-11-02 Thread william
Test


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RE: A DBC an Err: Object Name is Invalid

2010-11-02 Thread Kurt Wendt
Nope. But, didn't have to - since I resolved the problem by fixing the actual 
DBF structure.

-K- 

-Original Message-
From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On 
Behalf Of Gianni Turri
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:22 PM

Have you tried to put the offending fieldname between double quote?

field-name

Gianni

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 15:01:56 -0700, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote:

I was surprised that there was no error when creating a table from the 
data in COPY STRUCTURE EXTENDED, or the cursor created with the array 
from AFIELDS and the field name column tweaked with dashes.  At least 
the cursor created a name that was usable, but still no error or any 
indication the field name was not what was chosen.

If you try to create a table from code using CREATE tablename 
(field-name C(10)), you at least get a syntax error.

Fred



On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com wrote:
 On 11/1/2010 12:54 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
 Yeah - exactly. I got an error when trying to replace data into the field - 
 and that's when I tried to change the data structure - and got the next 
 error as noted in the Subject.

 Looks like there are a couple of problems with VFP's handling of this.
 Seems to me that the DBC shouldn't allow you to generate or attach a 
 table that has invalid field names.  An error when replacing data is 
 way too late!

 Dan Covill


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RE: A DBC an Err: Object Name is Invalid

2010-11-02 Thread Kurt Wendt
Dan - I totally agree with you! Especially, since, when you get to the
point of trying to do a Replace, and if you didn't know that the Dash
was not allowed (I just wasn't sure at first, since I figured things
might be handled differently for the longer DBF field names in a DBC) -
its frustrating to get an error that doesn't seem to make sense!

But - alas, with this great Group here - the answer was practically
almost immediately at my finger tips!

-K- 

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On Behalf Of Dan Covill
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:26 PM

On 11/1/2010 12:54 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
 Yeah - exactly. I got an error when trying to replace data into the
field - and that's when I tried to change the data structure - and got
the next error as noted in the Subject.

Looks like there are a couple of problems with VFP's handling of this. 
Seems to me that the DBC shouldn't allow you to generate or attach a
table that has invalid field names.  An error when replacing data is way
too late!

Dan Covill

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RE: A DBC an Err: Object Name is Invalid

2010-11-02 Thread Kurt Wendt
Fred,

Actually - what I did was create that Structural type DBF based upon a Good 
DBF. Then, I wiped out the actual data in the DBF and filled it myself, and 
then I did a whole bunch of manipulations, like replacing certain longer words 
(Company w/Co, Authorization w/Auth, etc) and spaces replaced with 
Underscores. Once I had the new structural file built - that's when I used it 
to create the DBF's in the DBC. 

Hope that makes more sense - and therefore - how I created my own problem!

In the end - between 3 different type DBF files, I had to build up about 300 
fields - which I DEFINITELY would NOT have wanted to do by hand...

:-)
-K-

-Original Message-
From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On 
Behalf Of Fred Taylor
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:02 PM

I was surprised that there was no error when creating a table from the data in 
COPY STRUCTURE EXTENDED, or the cursor created with the array from AFIELDS and 
the field name column tweaked with dashes.  At least the cursor created a name 
that was usable, but still no error or any indication the field name was not 
what was chosen.

If you try to create a table from code using CREATE tablename (field-name 
C(10)), you at least get a syntax error.

Fred



On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com wrote:
 On 11/1/2010 12:54 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
 Yeah - exactly. I got an error when trying to replace data into the field - 
 and that's when I tried to change the data structure - and got the next 
 error as noted in the Subject.

 Looks like there are a couple of problems with VFP's handling of this.
 Seems to me that the DBC shouldn't allow you to generate or attach a 
 table that has invalid field names.  An error when replacing data is 
 way too late!

 Dan Covill

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Re: A DBC an Err: Object Name is Invalid

2010-11-02 Thread Fred Taylor
The problem wasn't so much that you created your own problem, it was
that VFP allowed you to create it in an unusable fashion.  I was
surprised that it allowed it without even so much as a warning.

The only way I found to get data into the fields with dashes was
INSERT INTO table VALUES (whatever), or INSERT INTO table FROM ARRAY
arrayname, or APPEND FROM ARRAY arrayname, or SCATTER/GATHER MEMVAR or
SCATTER/GATHER arrayname.  Interesting also that SCATTER MEMVAR
actually created a variable that can't be referenced because it has
the - in it.

Fred



On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Kurt Wendt kurtwe...@waitex.com wrote:
 Fred,

 Actually - what I did was create that Structural type DBF based upon a Good 
 DBF. Then, I wiped out the actual data in the DBF and filled it myself, and 
 then I did a whole bunch of manipulations, like replacing certain longer 
 words (Company w/Co, Authorization w/Auth, etc) and spaces replaced 
 with Underscores. Once I had the new structural file built - that's when I 
 used it to create the DBF's in the DBC.

 Hope that makes more sense - and therefore - how I created my own problem!

 In the end - between 3 different type DBF files, I had to build up about 300 
 fields - which I DEFINITELY would NOT have wanted to do by hand...

 :-)
 -K-

 -Original Message-
 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On 
 Behalf Of Fred Taylor
 Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:02 PM

 I was surprised that there was no error when creating a table from the data 
 in COPY STRUCTURE EXTENDED, or the cursor created with the array from AFIELDS 
 and the field name column tweaked with dashes.  At least the cursor created a 
 name that was usable, but still no error or any indication the field name was 
 not what was chosen.

 If you try to create a table from code using CREATE tablename (field-name 
 C(10)), you at least get a syntax error.

 Fred



 On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com wrote:
 On 11/1/2010 12:54 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
 Yeah - exactly. I got an error when trying to replace data into the field - 
 and that's when I tried to change the data structure - and got the next 
 error as noted in the Subject.

 Looks like there are a couple of problems with VFP's handling of this.
 Seems to me that the DBC shouldn't allow you to generate or attach a
 table that has invalid field names.  An error when replacing data is
 way too late!

 Dan Covill

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Re: [OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend

2010-11-02 Thread Nicholas Geti
I do agree with you for once.


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 On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net wrote:
 A long while ago when I was on a consulting job the gang and I went to a
 local bar where two French ladies were playing pool. We went over to join
 them but their smell was so bad I choked and had to leave. The French 
 don't
 believe in showers.

 Yeah but they sure do look better.

 A+
 jml

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Re: [OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend

2010-11-02 Thread Jean MAURICE
  Hi Nicolas,

I beg your pardon but what is a 'shower' ?

The Foxil ... in France


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Re: [OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend

2010-11-02 Thread Nicholas Geti
You wash by standing under a water spray to get wet, then soaping up, and 
rinsing off. All of this is usually inside a glass enclosure to keep water 
from splashing all over the bathroom. Some also hook up a water spray 
outdoors but only enjoyable when the weather is warm.


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  Hi Nicolas,

 I beg your pardon but what is a 'shower' ?

 The Foxil ... in France


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RE: [OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend

2010-11-02 Thread john harvey
Now, tell them about bathrooms! lol

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Of Nicholas Geti
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:41 PM
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You wash by standing under a water spray to get wet, then soaping up, and 
rinsing off. All of this is usually inside a glass enclosure to keep water 
from splashing all over the bathroom. Some also hook up a water spray 
outdoors but only enjoyable when the weather is warm.


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From: Jean MAURICE jsm.maur...@wanadoo.fr
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] I hope this doesn't become a trend


  Hi Nicolas,

 I beg your pardon but what is a 'shower' ?

 The Foxil ... in France


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[OT] Just got an invitation to come to a wedding for one of our java coders

2010-11-02 Thread Stephen Russell
He attached a little class for all the things happening.  Pretty sure
he did that because mot of the people here are pacbase (COBOL)  people
and whon't have a clue what he sent.

I suggested that he remember to add the dreaded MotherInLaw object.
Also wrote up the method guessWhoIsComingToVisit(person visitor )

if(visitor.relationship == MotherInLaw)
{
Me.inCharge= false;
Me.thingsiWantToDo== null;
}

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RE: [OT] Just got an invitation to come to a wedding for one of our java coders

2010-11-02 Thread john harvey
Did he remember to add the WhenYouAreRightYouAreWrong() class too!

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java coders

He attached a little class for all the things happening.  Pretty sure
he did that because mot of the people here are pacbase (COBOL)  people
and whon't have a clue what he sent.

I suggested that he remember to add the dreaded MotherInLaw object.
Also wrote up the method guessWhoIsComingToVisit(person visitor )

if(visitor.relationship == MotherInLaw)
{
Me.inCharge= false;
Me.thingsiWantToDo== null;
}

-- 
Stephen Russell

Sr. Production Systems Programmer
CIMSgts

901.246-0159 cell

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Re: [OT] Just got an invitation to come to a wedding for one of our java coders

2010-11-02 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:50 PM, john harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote:
 Did he remember to add the WhenYouAreRightYouAreWrong() class too!
---

I thought that was inherited via Me.role=Husband.

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RE: [OT] Just got an invitation to come to a wedding for one of our java coders

2010-11-02 Thread john harvey
It is actually more tightly bound. It is an inherent property of Me, and you
and any other guy!


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On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:50 PM, john harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com
wrote:
 Did he remember to add the WhenYouAreRightYouAreWrong() class too!
---

I thought that was inherited via Me.role=Husband.

-- 
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Sr. Production Systems Programmer
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