RE: Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Fernando D. Bozzo
Hi Rick:

I did take a look at Frank's converter, and it's not bidirectional, so you
just can "view" converted files to text like Scctext does, but you can't
merge them...

How did you use it in a source control development environment when you
need to merge changes from different developers?

And using the class browser to generate PRG-like files doesn't allow to
Regenerate the binaries from them, so it's a one-way conversion too.


El 2/2/2017 0:41, "Rick Schummer"  escribió:

> Hi Paul,
>
> If you have a license to Beyond Compare from Scooter Software, you can get
> an terrific add-on from Frank Perez that
> diffs not only VCXs, but any of the VFP source code DBFs and naturally
> PRGs too. No need to pick up SCCText or any other
> binary flattener for straight comparisons. It handles it for you.
>
> http://pfsolutions-mi.com/Product/VFP2Text
>
> Not sure I could do my job without this tool.
>
> Rick
> White Light Computing, Inc.
>
> www.whitelightcomputing.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Newton
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 09:07
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Diffing VCXs
>
> Hi all
>
> I came across this in response to a message posted by Dominic Burford
>
> Hi Dominic,
>
> you can find an even more sophisticated version of SCCTEXT.prg on the
> ProLib FTP archives:
>
> ftp://ftp.prolib.de/public/vfp/mwscctext.prg
>
> This is an adopted version from Markus Winhard (hence the "mw"), which has
> all the changes from Mark Wilden plus several
> other enhancements, like a much improved speed, a correct sorting of
> classes and methods, and more robust working.
>
> However the FTP link does not work (it requires login credentials).
> However a bit of searching came up with
>
> http://www.dfpug.de/Forum/catbody.afp?!_4U70VHTXU=
> 10=mwscctext.zip
>
> Unfortunately the Download button on that page will not allow me to save
> the zip file.
>
> Any ideas/suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
>
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RE: CleverFox Backup

2017-02-01 Thread Rick Schummer
>> Can't you just do a FLOCK() and then SELECT * from Source into table 
>> c:\backup\Target ?<<

Yes you can, well if you want problems with users being locked out of tables 
"randomly" during the day, and you don't
care about the metadata of the DBC, or the stored procedures, or, or, or...



If it was simple and easy, I would have purchased this from someone else who 
has done it already, plus added in all the
automated billing to save hours of admin time. 

I mean, who writes their own reindexing routine for Visual FoxPro data these 
days? (rhetorical question)

Rick
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Subject: Re: CleverFox Backup

On 2017-01-27 06:02, Man-wai Chang wrote:
> Always wrote our own Foxpro routines to backup and/or do data transfer 
> (sometimes using external data compression programs)  It's not 
> that complicated. :)
> 
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Rick Schummer 
>  wrote:
>> SET MARKETING ON   && for those who are not interested
>> 
>> CleverFox Backup backs up VFP data (DBC and/or free tables) even if 
>> they are open in shared mode, something other backups sometimes fail 
>> to do, or will only do when they table gets closed. It also can do 
>> SQL Server backups too, which is perfect for those who are using SQL 
>> Server Express, or better. All on a scheduled basis, configurable to 
>> be done
>  a call if you (or anyone else on the list) are interested. 
> 586.254.2530.
>> 
>> SET MARKETING OFF



Can't you just do a FLOCK() and then SELECT * from Source into table 
c:\backup\Target ?

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RE: CleverFox Backup

2017-02-01 Thread Rick Schummer
Of course you are right Alan, if the data is open and in use. We naturally 
recommend backing up off hours, but we can
also take a snapshot in the middle of the workday and use this if we need 
something better than last night. Any backup
with a little bit of data missing is better than not having any data at all, 
which is something we run into all too
often. 

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com


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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 02:22
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: CleverFox Backup

The thing is, with a database that is shared over many DBF files unless you can 
exclusively lock each one at a given
point and then back them all up before unlocking you will never be sure you 
have a valid snapshot in time.

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, at 06:54 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> On 2017-01-27 06:02, Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > Always wrote our own Foxpro routines to backup and/or do data 
> > transfer (sometimes using external data compression programs)  
> > It's not that complicated. :)
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Rick Schummer 
> >  wrote:
> >> SET MARKETING ON   && for those who are not interested
> >> 
> >> CleverFox Backup backs up VFP data (DBC and/or free tables) even if 
> >> they are open in shared mode, something other backups sometimes 
> >> fail to do, or will only do when they table gets closed. It also 
> >> can do SQL Server backups too, which is perfect for those who are 
> >> using SQL Server Express, or better. All on a scheduled basis, 
> >> configurable to be done
> >  a call if you (or anyone else on the list) are interested. 
> > 586.254.2530.
> >> 
> >> SET MARKETING OFF
> 
> 
> 
> Can't you just do a FLOCK() and then SELECT * from Source into table 
> c:\backup\Target ?
> 
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RE: Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Rick Schummer
Hi Paul,

If you have a license to Beyond Compare from Scooter Software, you can get an 
terrific add-on from Frank Perez that
diffs not only VCXs, but any of the VFP source code DBFs and naturally PRGs 
too. No need to pick up SCCText or any other
binary flattener for straight comparisons. It handles it for you.

http://pfsolutions-mi.com/Product/VFP2Text

Not sure I could do my job without this tool.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com


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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul Newton
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 09:07
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Diffing VCXs

Hi all

I came across this in response to a message posted by Dominic Burford

Hi Dominic,
 
you can find an even more sophisticated version of SCCTEXT.prg on the ProLib 
FTP archives:
 
ftp://ftp.prolib.de/public/vfp/mwscctext.prg
 
This is an adopted version from Markus Winhard (hence the "mw"), which has all 
the changes from Mark Wilden plus several
other enhancements, like a much improved speed, a correct sorting of classes 
and methods, and more robust working.

However the FTP link does not work (it requires login credentials).  However a 
bit of searching came up with

http://www.dfpug.de/Forum/catbody.afp?!_4U70VHTXU=10=mwscctext.zip

Unfortunately the Download button on that page will not allow me to save the 
zip file.

Any ideas/suggestions?

Paul


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Re: Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Fernando D. Bozzo
> you can find an even more sophisticated version of SCCTEXT.prg

Sorry but...  Really? Scctext? in 2017?

Please, there is a much better and newer VFPx project for this since end 2013,
called FoxBin2Prg, which allow converting to PRG-like text all binaries,
and can regenerate the binaries from text (Scctext can't)

You can use it with whichever scc/DVCS tool you want,  SourceSafe, git,
Plastic.

Take a look on VFPx and you'll find it on latest updates.

Fernando D.  Bozzo


El 1/2/2017 15:07, "Paul Newton"  escribió:

> Hi all
>
> I came across this in response to a message posted by Dominic Burford
>
> Hi Dominic,
>
> you can find an even more sophisticated version of SCCTEXT.prg on the
> ProLib FTP archives:
>
> ftp://ftp.prolib.de/public/vfp/mwscctext.prg
>
> This is an adopted version from Markus Winhard (hence the "mw"), which
> has all the changes from Mark Wilden plus several other enhancements,
> like a much improved speed, a correct sorting of classes and methods,
> and more robust working.
>
> However the FTP link does not work (it requires login credentials).
> However a bit of searching came up with
>
> http://www.dfpug.de/Forum/catbody.afp?!_4U70VHTXU=
> 10=mwscctext.zip
>
> Unfortunately the Download button on that page will not allow me to save
> the zip file.
>
> Any ideas/suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
>
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RE: Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Richard Kaye
The enhanced SCCTEXT is a VFPx project.



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rk
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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 9:07 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Diffing VCXs

Hi all

I came across this in response to a message posted by Dominic Burford

Hi Dominic,
 
you can find an even more sophisticated version of SCCTEXT.prg on the
ProLib FTP archives:
 
ftp://ftp.prolib.de/public/vfp/mwscctext.prg
 
This is an adopted version from Markus Winhard (hence the "mw"), which
has all the changes from Mark Wilden plus several other enhancements,
like a much improved speed, a correct sorting of classes and methods,
and more robust working.

However the FTP link does not work (it requires login credentials).  However a 
bit of searching came up with

http://www.dfpug.de/Forum/catbody.afp?!_4U70VHTXU=10=mwscctext.zip

Unfortunately the Download button on that page will not allow me to save the 
zip file.

Any ideas/suggestions?

Paul


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RE: Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Paul Newton
Thanks Peter - Alan is going to send it to me

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter 
Cushing
Sent: 01 February 2017 14:28
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Diffing VCXs

I right clicked on the link button and "save link as" it then brought up my 
fireftp add-on and I could then transfer the file.  Confirmed the zip contains 
the program.
I can email it to you if you have no joy.

Peter Cushing
IT Department
WHISPERING SMITH


On 01/02/2017 14:07, Paul Newton wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I came across this in response to a message posted by Dominic Burford
>
> Hi Dominic,
>   
> you can find an even more sophisticated version of SCCTEXT.prg on the 
> ProLib FTP archives:
>   
> ftp://ftp.prolib.de/public/vfp/mwscctext.prg
>   
> This is an adopted version from Markus Winhard (hence the "mw"), which 
> has all the changes from Mark Wilden plus several other enhancements, 
> like a much improved speed, a correct sorting of classes and methods, 
> and more robust working.
>
> However the FTP link does not work (it requires login credentials).  
> However a bit of searching came up with
>
> http://www.dfpug.de/Forum/catbody.afp?!_4U70VHTXU=10=mwscct
> ext.zip
>
> Unfortunately the Download button on that page will not allow me to save the 
> zip file.
>
> Any ideas/suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
>
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RE: Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Paul Newton
Thanks Alan I would appreciate that

Paul

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Sent: 01 February 2017 14:13
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Diffing VCXs

Downloads for me - do you want me to email it ?

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Re: Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Peter Cushing
I right clicked on the link button and "save link as" it then brought up 
my fireftp add-on and I could then transfer the file.  Confirmed the zip 
contains the program.

I can email it to you if you have no joy.

Peter Cushing
IT Department
WHISPERING SMITH


On 01/02/2017 14:07, Paul Newton wrote:

Hi all

I came across this in response to a message posted by Dominic Burford

Hi Dominic,
  
you can find an even more sophisticated version of SCCTEXT.prg on the

ProLib FTP archives:
  
ftp://ftp.prolib.de/public/vfp/mwscctext.prg
  
This is an adopted version from Markus Winhard (hence the "mw"), which

has all the changes from Mark Wilden plus several other enhancements,
like a much improved speed, a correct sorting of classes and methods,
and more robust working.

However the FTP link does not work (it requires login credentials).  However a 
bit of searching came up with

http://www.dfpug.de/Forum/catbody.afp?!_4U70VHTXU=10=mwscctext.zip

Unfortunately the Download button on that page will not allow me to save the 
zip file.

Any ideas/suggestions?

Paul



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Re: Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Alan Bourke
Downloads for me - do you want me to email it ?

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Diffing VCXs

2017-02-01 Thread Paul Newton
Hi all

I came across this in response to a message posted by Dominic Burford

Hi Dominic,
 
you can find an even more sophisticated version of SCCTEXT.prg on the
ProLib FTP archives:
 
ftp://ftp.prolib.de/public/vfp/mwscctext.prg
 
This is an adopted version from Markus Winhard (hence the "mw"), which
has all the changes from Mark Wilden plus several other enhancements,
like a much improved speed, a correct sorting of classes and methods,
and more robust working.

However the FTP link does not work (it requires login credentials).  However a 
bit of searching came up with

http://www.dfpug.de/Forum/catbody.afp?!_4U70VHTXU=10=mwscctext.zip

Unfortunately the Download button on that page will not allow me to save the 
zip file.

Any ideas/suggestions?

Paul


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