Re: [NF] Broken Windows

2018-10-25 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2018-10-25 10:34, Ted Roche wrote:

Perhaps they should rewrite it. Third time's the charm, or so they
mythology goes within MS.

Highly recommended: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows for 
a

refresher on the history. Good overview.




I'm pretty safe in saying they will NEVER rewrite it from scratch.  It'd 
take too long to deliver.


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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

2018-10-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:53 AM Alan Bourke 
wrote:

> > Win32s
>
> I remember that piece of crap - trying to get a Filemaker application
> working with it.
>

That's where I learned the term "thunk layer."

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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

2018-10-25 Thread Fernando D. Bozzo
Yes, it has, it's called 7za and is open source too.


El jue., 25 oct. 2018 15:27, Man-wai Chang  escribió:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:46 AM Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
> >
> >
> >   I am using PKZIP version 2.04g.  At 25 years old, it may be
> > older than some of those Microsoft programmers.  It might work better,
> too.
> >
>
> 7-zip is fine! I think it has a command-line version.
>
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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

2018-10-25 Thread Alan Bourke
> Win32s

I remember that piece of crap - trying to get a Filemaker application working 
with it.

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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

2018-10-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 9:28 AM Man-wai Chang  wrote:

>
> Which means Micro$oft might need to rewrite it again? ;)
>
>
Well, they bought DOS, slapped a gui on it, sold that for nearly 20 years,
moving it from 16- to 32-bit, yay Win32s!

Windows, 2.0, 3.1, 3.1, 3.11, W4Workgroups, W4Tablets, w4Work, Win95, 98,
Millenium

They teamed up with IBM to write OS/2 later "WARP," using Windows New
Technology with the New Technology File System.

Then they torpedoed IBM and released it as Windows NT. And that's what we
are running today, Windows NT 3, 3.5, 3.51, 4, 7, Windows Vista, Windows 8,
Windows 10. They've glommed a lot of stuff on top, but it's Windows NT on
NTFS with its lousy security model, patched over with a new domain model
and Policy enforcement, but it's the Registry and LAN Man and the same old
print queue.

It's tens of millions of lines of code, written mostly by people who don't
work there any more. It's huge, it's heavy, it's buggy. And it runs on
Desktops. And Servers. And not much else. Not smartphones, not lightweight
tables, not the internet. Ignoring Windows CE (which still exists, running
my settop box -*shudder), WindowsPhone, and XBox OS, all speciality
spinoffs.

Perhaps they should rewrite it. Third time's the charm, or so they
mythology goes within MS.

Highly recommended: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows for a
refresher on the history. Good overview.

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Re: .h files included or excluded in your project?

2018-10-25 Thread Man-wai Chang
Debugging? But it's unlikely for anyone to introduce errors into a
header file. :)

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 1:32 AM
 wrote:
>
> VFP9SP2
>
> Since .h #INCLUDE files are only utilized at build time, is there any
> reason you'd want to include the .h files in the EXE?  I'm thinking
> "no."

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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

2018-10-25 Thread Man-wai Chang
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:09 AM Ted Roche  wrote:
>
> I think Windows has gotten too complex for MS to understand. Shadow
> directories and fake redirections and everything dependent not on the OS or
> the File System, but the Registry, may just be a step too far.

Which means Micro$oft might need to rewrite it again? ;)

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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

2018-10-25 Thread Man-wai Chang
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:46 AM Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
>
>
>   I am using PKZIP version 2.04g.  At 25 years old, it may be
> older than some of those Microsoft programmers.  It might work better, too.
>

7-zip is fine! I think it has a command-line version.

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Re: [NF] Broken Windows

2018-10-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:50 PM Gene Wirchenko  wrote:

> Gene "straight over or with a bit of a curve?"
>

Spin. It's all in the wrist.

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