RE: Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]

That's not surprising - I've just realised that his reply was to me and not
to the list ... DOH!

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Frank Cazabon
Sent: 13 April 2022 15:40
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

Interesting, I never saw his message, it's not even in my spam (quite a few
Profox emails end up in Google's spam) :(

Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 13/04/2022 10:33 am, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> Frank
>
> Vince suggested copying my old MBOX stuff into TB's default mail 
> location ... seems to work but I am still verifying that all is OK.
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Frank 
> Cazabon
> Sent: 13 April 2022 15:28
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails
>
> Glad you found something.
>
> I didn't see a response from Vince. What did he suggest?
>
> Frank.
>
> Frank Cazabon
>
> On 13/04/2022 10:24 am, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Many thanks, Frank
>>
>> It looks as if Vince's suggestion might very well work and would be 
>> the
> ideal solution.
>> Paul
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Frank 
>> Cazabon
>> Sent: 11 April 2022 23:19
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> A quick search gave me these but I've never used them:
>>
>> https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/view-thunderbird-msf-files/
>>
>> https://sysc.org/open-mbox-file-format/
>>
>> 11 Apr 2022 18:03:11 paul.newton.h...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
>>> (Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get 
>>> rid of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these 
>>> correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension 
>>> (these contain the actual
>>> emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain 
>>> files with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of 
>>> the
> MBOX contents.
>>>
>>>
>>> One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client 
>>> which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this 
>>> with TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of 
>>> incoming and outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an
account).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as 
>>> individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap 
>>> solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used 
>>> Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with 
>>> no
> means to upgrade.
>>>
>>>
>>> The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for 
>>> subject, sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode 
>>> and save any attachments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different
>>> approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to 
>>> reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody 
>>> knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Newton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative
>>> text/plain (text body -- kept)
>>> text/html
>>> ---
>>>
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RE: Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]

Frank

Vince suggested copying my old MBOX stuff into TB's default mail location
... seems to work but I am still verifying that all is OK.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Frank Cazabon
Sent: 13 April 2022 15:28
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

Glad you found something.

I didn't see a response from Vince. What did he suggest?

Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 13/04/2022 10:24 am, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> Many thanks, Frank
>
> It looks as if Vince's suggestion might very well work and would be the
ideal solution.
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Frank 
> Cazabon
> Sent: 11 April 2022 23:19
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> A quick search gave me these but I've never used them:
>
> https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/view-thunderbird-msf-files/
>
> https://sysc.org/open-mbox-file-format/
>
> 11 Apr 2022 18:03:11 paul.newton.h...@gmail.com:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>>
>>
>> I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
>> (Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get 
>> rid of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these 
>> correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension 
>> (these contain the actual
>> emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain 
>> files with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of the
MBOX contents.
>>
>>
>>
>> One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client 
>> which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this 
>> with TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of incoming 
>> and outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an account).
>>
>>
>>
>> Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as 
>> individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap 
>> solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used 
>> Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with no
means to upgrade.
>>
>>
>>
>> The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for subject, 
>> sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode and save any 
>> attachments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different
>> approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to 
>> reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody 
>> knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Newton
>>
>>
>>
>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative
>>text/plain (text body -- kept)
>>text/html
>> ---
>>
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RE: Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]



-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 13 April 2022 00:35
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

When I mention an "email application" to my clients, they look at me like I 
have three heads.

"What? Why not just use a phone app or web browser?"

These kids these days...tsk...

Mike

Kurt @ Gmail wrote:
> Hey Paul - OK, no worries. Got it.
>
> On the website - does it stated whether it's a free or paid type of 
> tool? And, once you do try it out - I'd be curious to know what you 
> think about it - and if it does what you need done.
>
> Oddly - I still to this day get strange looks from people when I 
> mention Thunderbird. As I've been using it since nearly its original 
> inception - which I THINK when Mozilla was 1st released or shortly 
> there after. I've enjoyed using Thunderbird - and I am surprised that 
> I almost NEVER Come across anyone that uses Thunderbird!!!
>
> -Kurt
>
> On 4/12/2022 2:27 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Kurt
>>
>> I don't really have anything to pass on in the way of info - I just 
>> Googled "em Client" and Google came up with About 2,760,000,000 
>> results (0.49 seconds) Thankfully the first result takes you straight 
>> to their website where you can download it.  I haven't yet looked at 
>> it other than as described in my previous message.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ 
>> Gmail
>> Sent: 12 April 2022 22:21
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails
>>
>> You're quite welcome Paul!
>>
>> And, wow - 894 hits on the ProFox search is a LOT!
>>
>> Interesting find on the eMClient. Can you pass us some info on it here.
>> As I may want to take a lookat that myself and try it - since I also 
>> use Thunderbird. And, actually have a couple outstanding issues with 
>> access of some emails and folder.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -K
>>
>> On 4/12/2022 2:11 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Thanks for your reply and suggestion, Kurt.
>>>
>>> Searching for "thunderbird" in the ProFox archive returns 894 matches!
>>> However I did find one useful thing for starters - an e-Mail client 
>>> (eM
>>> Client) with which I was able to import all the MBOX messages.
>>>
>>> Paul Newton
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ 
>>> Gmail
>>> Sent: 12 April 2022 00:21
>>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>>> Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails
>>>
>>> I remember a Thunderbird discussion on here a Good WHILE ago - I may 
>>> have been the instigator. I do remember someone saying that the 
>>> email data for Thunderbird was actually something like SQL Lite. 
>>> Again - this is purely based upon memory - and, old people like me - 
>>> well, we have Memory leakages...
>>>
>>> Have you tried doing a search of ProFox archives for the word 
>>> Thunderbird?
>>> IF so - you might potentially get a Hit!
>>>
>>> -Kurt
>>>
>>> On 4/11/2022 3:02 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all


 I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
 (Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get 
 rid of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these 
 correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension 
 (these contain the actual
 emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain 
 files with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of 
 the MBOX
>>> contents.

 One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client 
 which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this 
 with TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of 
 incoming and outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an account).


 Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as 
 individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap 
 solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used 
 Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with 
 no
>>> means to upgrade.

 The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for 
 subject, sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode 
 and save any attachments.


 Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different
 approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to 
 reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if 
 anybody knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .


 Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message


 Paul Newton



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RE: Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Kurt

To answer your question, please visit their website ...

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 23:34
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

Hey Paul - OK, no worries. Got it.

On the website - does it stated whether it's a free or paid type of tool?
And, once you do try it out - I'd be curious to know what you think about it
- and if it does what you need done.

Oddly - I still to this day get strange looks from people when I mention
Thunderbird. As I've been using it since nearly its original inception -
which I THINK when Mozilla was 1st released or shortly there after. I've
enjoyed using Thunderbird - and I am surprised that I almost NEVER Come
across anyone that uses Thunderbird!!!

-Kurt

On 4/12/2022 2:27 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> Kurt
>
> I don't really have anything to pass on in the way of info - I just 
> Googled "em Client" and Google came up with About 2,760,000,000 
> results (0.49 seconds) Thankfully the first result takes you straight 
> to their website where you can download it.  I haven't yet looked at 
> it other than as described in my previous message.
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ 
> Gmail
> Sent: 12 April 2022 22:21
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails
>
> You're quite welcome Paul!
>
> And, wow - 894 hits on the ProFox search is a LOT!
>
> Interesting find on the eMClient. Can you pass us some info on it here.
> As I may want to take a lookat that myself and try it - since I also 
> use Thunderbird. And, actually have a couple outstanding issues with 
> access of some emails and folder.
>
> Thanks!
> -K
>
> On 4/12/2022 2:11 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply and suggestion, Kurt.
>>
>> Searching for "thunderbird" in the ProFox archive returns 894 matches!
>> However I did find one useful thing for starters - an e-Mail client 
>> (eM
>> Client) with which I was able to import all the MBOX messages.
>>
>> Paul Newton
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ 
>> Gmail
>> Sent: 12 April 2022 00:21
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails
>>
>> I remember a Thunderbird discussion on here a Good WHILE ago - I may 
>> have been the instigator. I do remember someone saying that the email 
>> data for Thunderbird was actually something like SQL Lite. Again - 
>> this is purely based upon memory - and, old people like me - well, we 
>> have Memory leakages...
>>
>> Have you tried doing a search of ProFox archives for the word
Thunderbird?
>> IF so - you might potentially get a Hit!
>>
>> -Kurt
>>
>> On 4/11/2022 3:02 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
>>> (Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get 
>>> rid of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these 
>>> correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension 
>>> (these contain the actual
>>> emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain 
>>> files with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of 
>>> the MBOX
>> contents.
>>> 
>>>
>>> One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client 
>>> which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this 
>>> with TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of 
>>> incoming and outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an
account).
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as 
>>> individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap 
>>> solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used 
>>> Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with 
>>> no
>> means to upgrade.
>>> 
>>>
>>> The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for 
>>> subject, sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode 
>>> and save any attachments.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different
>>> approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to 
>>> reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody 
>>> knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Paul Newton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative
>>>  text/plain (text body -- kept)
>>>  text/html
>>> ---
>>>
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RE: Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]

Many thanks, Frank

It looks as if Vince's suggestion might very well work and would be the ideal 
solution.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Frank Cazabon
Sent: 11 April 2022 23:19
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

Hi Paul,

A quick search gave me these but I've never used them:

https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/view-thunderbird-msf-files/

https://sysc.org/open-mbox-file-format/

11 Apr 2022 18:03:11 paul.newton.h...@gmail.com:

> Hi all
> 
> 
> 
> I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
> (Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get rid 
> of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these 
> correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension 
> (these contain the actual
> emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain files 
> with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of the MBOX contents.
> 
> 
> 
> One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client 
> which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this with 
> TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of incoming and 
> outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an account).
> 
> 
> 
> Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as 
> individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap 
> solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used 
> Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with no means 
> to upgrade.
> 
> 
> 
> The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for subject, 
> sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode and save any 
> attachments.
> 
> 
> 
> Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different 
> approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to 
> reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody 
> knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Newton
> 
> 
> 
> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative
>   text/plain (text body -- kept)
>   text/html
> ---
> 
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RE: Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]

Kurt

I don't really have anything to pass on in the way of info - I just Googled
"em Client" and Google came up with 
About 2,760,000,000 results (0.49 seconds)
Thankfully the first result takes you straight to their website where you
can download it.  I haven't yet looked at it other than as described in my
previous message.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 22:21
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

You're quite welcome Paul!

And, wow - 894 hits on the ProFox search is a LOT!

Interesting find on the eMClient. Can you pass us some info on it here. 
As I may want to take a lookat that myself and try it - since I also use
Thunderbird. And, actually have a couple outstanding issues with access of
some emails and folder.

Thanks!
-K

On 4/12/2022 2:11 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for your reply and suggestion, Kurt.
>
> Searching for "thunderbird" in the ProFox archive returns 894 matches!
> However I did find one useful thing for starters - an e-Mail client 
> (eM
> Client) with which I was able to import all the MBOX messages.
>
> Paul Newton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ 
> Gmail
> Sent: 12 April 2022 00:21
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails
>
> I remember a Thunderbird discussion on here a Good WHILE ago - I may 
> have been the instigator. I do remember someone saying that the email 
> data for Thunderbird was actually something like SQL Lite. Again - 
> this is purely based upon memory - and, old people like me - well, we 
> have Memory leakages...
>
> Have you tried doing a search of ProFox archives for the word Thunderbird?
> IF so - you might potentially get a Hit!
>
> -Kurt
>
> On 4/11/2022 3:02 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>>
>>
>> I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
>> (Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get 
>> rid of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these 
>> correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension 
>> (these contain the actual
>> emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain 
>> files with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of the 
>> MBOX
> contents.
>>
>>
>> One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client 
>> which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this 
>> with TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of incoming 
>> and outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an account).
>>
>>
>>
>> Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as 
>> individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap 
>> solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used 
>> Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with no
> means to upgrade.
>>
>>
>> The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for subject, 
>> sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode and save any 
>> attachments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different
>> approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to 
>> reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody 
>> knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Newton
>>
>>
>>
>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative
>> text/plain (text body -- kept)
>> text/html
>> ---
>>
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RE: Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks for your reply and suggestion, Kurt.

Searching for "thunderbird" in the ProFox archive returns 894 matches!
However I did find one useful thing for starters - an e-Mail client (eM
Client) with which I was able to import all the MBOX messages.

Paul Newton

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 00:21
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

I remember a Thunderbird discussion on here a Good WHILE ago - I may have
been the instigator. I do remember someone saying that the email data for
Thunderbird was actually something like SQL Lite. Again - this is purely
based upon memory - and, old people like me - well, we have Memory
leakages...

Have you tried doing a search of ProFox archives for the word Thunderbird?
IF so - you might potentially get a Hit!

-Kurt

On 4/11/2022 3:02 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all
>
>   
>
> I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
> (Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get rid 
> of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these 
> correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension 
> (these contain the actual
> emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain files 
> with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of the MBOX
contents.
>
>   
>
> One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client 
> which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this with 
> TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of incoming and 
> outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an account).
>
>   
>
> Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as 
> individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap 
> solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used 
> Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with no
means to upgrade.
>
>   
>
> The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for subject, 
> sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode and save any 
> attachments.
>
>   
>
> Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different 
> approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to 
> reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody 
> knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .
>
>   
>
> Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message
>
>   
>
> Paul Newton
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RE: Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks, Ed

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ed Leafe
Sent: 11 April 2022 23:22
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

On Apr 11, 2022, at 17:02, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different 
> approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to 
> reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody 
> knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .

Here's an example using Python and its built-in `mailbox` library:
https://python-forum.io/thread-16787.html


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Accessing/processing archived emails

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
(Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get rid of
for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these correspond to TB's
folders.  They contain files with no extension (these contain the actual
emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain files with
an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of the MBOX contents.

 

One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client which
works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this with TB but got
stuck at the stage where it wants details of incoming and outgoing server
accounts (I don't want to set up an account).

 

Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as individual EML
files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap solutions without
limitations would be helpful - I have used Thunderstor in the past but now
can only find a trial version with no means to upgrade.

 

The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for subject,
sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode and save any
attachments.

 

Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different approach)
will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to reinvent the wheel
regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody knows of any tools or
existing code that could be helpful .

 

Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message

 

Paul Newton



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RE: 1001 Things You Wanted to Know About Visual FoxPro

[paul.newton.hudl]

Michael

Whil eventually came back to me with the password  ... my mail had gone to his 
spam folder

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of MB Software 
Solutions, LLC
Sent: 08 April 2022 12:03
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: 1001 Things You Wanted to Know About Visual FoxPro

Let us know your outcome, as I have the same question from a HWP book I bought 
awhile back.  Thanks!


On 4/7/2022 4:37 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:
> Normally I'd harass people on Twitter but Whil doesn't appear to have been on 
> that since 2019. Maybe call the number on the website ?
>
-- 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
Fox/VFP dev since 1997
Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com

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1001 Things You Wanted to Know About Visual FoxPro

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

Following the advice given on the Hentzenwerke web site to purchase a
printed version of this book on Amazon, I did so and it arrived today.  I
wrote to bo...@hentzenwerke.com   on 26th
March requesting the password for the PDF version (which I have downloaded
from there), but have had no reply.

 

Can anybody help (I can provide proof of purchase if required)?

 

Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 

P.S. I also purchased "Megafox" but that is not arriving for another 1-2
weeks, and I will probably have the same problem with that.



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RE: Problem replacing/deleting temporary picture file

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Hi Tracy

Thanks for your reply.  I used Sysinternals Process Monitor to see if there
was a file handle for the temp image file and there wasn't one.  However, I
suspect it is something along those lines.  In the meantime I am using a
different temp file each time and then deleting them in the form Destroy
event.

Paul

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Sent: 05 April 2022 14:44
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Problem replacing/deleting temporary picture file

Hi Paul,

I have a couple of places that have an BMP loaded in the Image control on a
form. The user can change the picture in a popup modal form. The original
image is overwritten on disk with code in the modal. When the modal closes,
the image is refreshed on the original form.

I'm curious if the GDIPlusX method is leaving the control open with a file
handle to the image. 

HTH,
Tracy



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paul.newton.h...@gmail.com
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Subject: Problem replacing/deleting temporary picture file

Hi all

 

I have an image control whose Picture property is a temporary BMP (say
Temp1.BMP).  I am trying to redisplay the image control with a new Picture
property of Temp2.BMP or with a modified Temp1.BMP

 

Using GDIPlusX, I am creating the BMPs with the BitMap.Save method.  Once I
have used Temp1.BMP as the picture and later trying to use BitMap.Save again
to overwrite Temp1.BMP, the changes are not saved (no error though)

 

So I used BitMap.Save to create Temp2.BMP, set Temp2.BMP as the picture
(which worked fine) and then tried to delete Temp1.BMP.  Again this failed
(file in use or similar).

 

I tried Clear Resource Temp1.BMP before Erase Temp1.BMP but that didn't work
either.

 

Any suggestions would be welcome.

 

Many thanks

 

Paul Newton 



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Problem replacing/deleting temporary picture file

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I have an image control whose Picture property is a temporary BMP (say
Temp1.BMP).  I am trying to redisplay the image control with a new Picture
property of Temp2.BMP or with a modified Temp1.BMP

 

Using GDIPlusX, I am creating the BMPs with the BitMap.Save method.  Once I
have used Temp1.BMP as the picture and later trying to use BitMap.Save again
to overwrite Temp1.BMP, the changes are not saved (no error though)

 

So I used BitMap.Save to create Temp2.BMP, set Temp2.BMP as the picture
(which worked fine) and then tried to delete Temp1.BMP.  Again this failed
(file in use or similar).

 

I tried Clear Resource Temp1.BMP before Erase Temp1.BMP but that didn't work
either.

 

Any suggestions would be welcome.

 

Many thanks

 

Paul Newton 



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RE: [NF] Facets Database???

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... or tails

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: 04 March 2022 21:06
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Facets Database???

Welcome back, Kurt!

A quick web search for "facets database" doesn't seem to point to one product, 
but rather a feature that several different database engines are offering as 
different things. It's hard to know what the headhunter wants. Besides heads, 
of course.

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:48 PM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
>
> Hey folks - anyone every heard of this kinda DB before? Myself - Never!
>
> So, I was surprised when this headhunter reached out to me about a job 
> doing this stuff. And, I confirmed - she insists the person must 
> obviously have hands-on experience with it. This is the info about the 
> Gig and her info (she connected with me on LinkedIn - so you can 
> connect with her there):
>
>
>   Facets Database Developer
>
> *Hi there! We’re searching for a database developer with strong Facets 
> experience. This role will potentially be a role that will be contract 
> to hire, but in the meantime it’ll be 100% remote and a contract.  The 
> role will be gathering all information regarding the intended 
> functions of the Facets database and configuring, and designing and 
> creating appropriate frameworks. Do you know someone who is a fit? 
> We’re interviewing asap. Lauren Daher Senior Manager, Consultant 
> Engagement at Catalyst Solutions*
>
> I'd say TGIF - but, in my case - nothing to be thankful for in regards 
> to sliding into the weekend...
>
> -Kurt
>
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RE: Converting RTF to HTML

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This should be the one ...

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-K64g4NuEJmk0patx_U80DZte6j9uMHJ?usp


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Sent: 03 March 2022 21:55
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Converting RTF to HTML

I missed the link in the earlier email I think.

I'm interested.

-Charlie

On 3/3/2022 11:21 AM, Vince Teachout wrote:
> On 03/03/22 5:53 AM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Any more interest anybody?
>
> Got it, thanks!
>


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Forms layout manager

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I wonder whether this might be useful and/or of interest - it can be
downloaded here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v_JUnY-o0jJY-WvpW6N0rO2O7GolFKRd?usp
=sharing

 

Paul Newton

 

Forms layout manager (FLM)

 

Description

 

This is a small utility that enables saving and restoring of form layouts.

 

Many of you will have come across situations where the controls on a form
are shuffled around at runtime.  In  order to achive this, the developer
will have to work with one form design and then adjust TOP and LEFT for a
number of controls by implementing code to make the runtime adjustments.
But all the time, in design mode they only see one layout.

 

What if you could have one form (SCX) but have two different views of it at
design time and implement either or both designs at run time (i.e. expose
one design or the other for the user, or even let the user switch between
the two different layouts). 

 

What if all of this could be achieved more or less effortlessly and with no
need to remember and or calculate object positions?

 

Welcome to the Forms layout manager.

 

How it works

 

Start with a form design, say "Expanded".  Run the Forms layout manager and
have it store the positions of all the objects at the form level.  These
will be stored in a table (well I never) and the same table will be used for
all forms and all form designs.

 

At the same time that the form design is being saved, FLM can also generate
code to reposition the controls at runtime.

 

Now modify the form design, reposition the controls, make the form larger or
smaller and so on. Let's call this design "Compact".  Let FLM save the new
layout and generate the code to reproduce the layout at runtime.

 

Now whenever you want to work in the form designer, and see in the designer
what the user will see, simply use FLM to restore the required layout
("Expanded" or "Compact"). In other words, when working in the form designer
you will see just one design, uncluttered by the controls in the other
layout.

 

At the moment, FLM only processes LEFT and TOP but it is designed in such a
way that other properties (e.g. WIDTH, HEIGHT, FILLCOLOR etc) could be
handled in the same way with minimal changes required in FLM.

 

I have not yet investigated whether the concept could be extended to classes
in a VCX.  One thing at a time ...



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RE: Converting RTF to HTML

[paul.newton.hudl]

Any more interest anybody?

-Original Message-
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Sent: 03 March 2022 09:48
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Cc: 'Darren' 
Subject: Re: Converting RTF to HTML

Very handy that.

--
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  alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

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Converting RTF to HTML

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Hi all

 

I spent some time looking for a utility to convert RTF to HTML and asked for
help.  Darren very kindly offered to help and came up with a solution based
on RtfPipe,  a  .NET library available on nuget

 

We are making it temporarily available here

 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-K64g4NuEJmk0patx_U80DZte6j9uMHJ?usp
=sharing

 

If anybody thinks it deserves to be made available on Ed's download section,
I will submit it for approval. 

 

Paul Newton

 



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RE: [SPAM] RE: Problem moving controls on a form at runtime

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks Jürgen

For an extremely clear and easy to understand explanation.

Paul 

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Jürgen Wondzinski
Sent: 27 February 2022 17:00
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: AW: [SPAM] RE: Problem moving controls on a form at runtime

Remember: ActiveX Controls are essentially mini Windows programs contained in 
their own (borderless) window. VFP creates a hole in it's own form-window where 
that ActiveX is then peeking through. For the user there is no visual 
difference, but programmatically it's a foreign module. With making it 
invisible, VFP just closes that hole in it's window, and then reopens it, which 
then forces the ActiveX module to use that hole...

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Betreff: RE: [SPAM] RE: Problem moving controls on a form at runtime

Many thanks Christof

I hadn't but I have now and it works - quite bizarre.  Do you have any kind of 
explanation?

Paul


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RE: [SPAM] RE: Problem moving controls on a form at runtime

[paul.newton.hudl]

Many thanks Christof

I hadn't but I have now and it works - quite bizarre.  Do you have any kind of 
explanation?

Paul

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Wollenhaupt
Sent: 27 February 2022 10:50
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: Problem moving controls on a form at runtime

Have you tried making the control invisible then reposition it and then make it 
visible again?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27. Feb 2022, at 00:35, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Tracy
> 
> Anchor is set to 0 - but thanks anyway
> 
> Paul
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy 
> Pearson
> Sent: 26 February 2022 23:33
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Problem moving controls on a form at runtime
> 
> This happens to me when the anchor is set on the control.
> 
> Tracy
> 
>> On February 26, 2022 6:08:22 PM EST, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am trying to reposition controls on a form at runtime and all is 
>> working well, except for one control (Microsoft Web Browser 
>> olecontrol).  I can adjust its width and height, but whatever I have 
>> tried fails to move the control to a new Top and Left position on the form.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have tried setting Top and Left on the control and its object (i.e. 
>> on MyOLEControl and on MyOLEControl.Object.  I have tried in the form 
>> Init, in the form Activate and from a command button Click event 
>> after the form has displayed.  All to no avail.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am I missing something here?  I can probably resolve the problem by 
>> putting the oleControl inside a container and then moving the 
>> container, but I would rather not have to do that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paul Newton
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: Problem moving controls on a form at runtime

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Tracy

Anchor is set to 0 - but thanks anyway

Paul
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From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
Sent: 26 February 2022 23:33
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem moving controls on a form at runtime

This happens to me when the anchor is set on the control.

Tracy

On February 26, 2022 6:08:22 PM EST, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>Hi all
>
> 
>
>I am trying to reposition controls on a form at runtime and all is 
>working well, except for one control (Microsoft Web Browser 
>olecontrol).  I can adjust its width and height, but whatever I have 
>tried fails to move the control to a new Top and Left position on the form.
>
> 
>
>I have tried setting Top and Left on the control and its object (i.e. 
>on MyOLEControl and on MyOLEControl.Object.  I have tried in the form 
>Init, in the form Activate and from a command button Click event after 
>the form has displayed.  All to no avail.
>
> 
>
>Am I missing something here?  I can probably resolve the problem by 
>putting the oleControl inside a container and then moving the 
>container, but I would rather not have to do that.
>
> 
>
>Many thanks
>
> 
>
>Paul Newton
>
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Problem moving controls on a form at runtime

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I am trying to reposition controls on a form at runtime and all is working
well, except for one control (Microsoft Web Browser olecontrol).  I can
adjust its width and height, but whatever I have tried fails to move the
control to a new Top and Left position on the form.

 

I have tried setting Top and Left on the control and its object (i.e. on
MyOLEControl and on MyOLEControl.Object.  I have tried in the form Init, in
the form Activate and from a command button Click event after the form has
displayed.  All to no avail.

 

Am I missing something here?  I can probably resolve the problem by putting
the oleControl inside a container and then moving the container, but I would
rather not have to do that.

 

Many thanks

 

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RE: No classes in REGISTRY.VCX

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks Ted

I agree with your sentiments and will be following wOOdy's advice.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: 24 February 2022 11:44
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: No classes in REGISTRY.VCX

I may not have all the details correct, and don't know this year's
terminology, but consider "Program Files" to be read-only. Microsoft bans
lowly users * from writing to the Program Files location to prevent the
spread of malware, and offer something like "Shadow Folders" for users
attempts to write there -- your personal version of those files, buried
somewhere in User//Local FIles or some such hidden nonsense.
When this file gets corrupted, finding it, deleting it and getting back to
work is not obvious.

Because this switch-er-roo is done transparently at the OS level, you can't
see the actual files you are using at the File Explorer level, nor the
command line, nor within VFP. This deception, "protecting the user from
themselves" is typical paternalistic and poorly-thought-out Microsoft Fred
attitude.

It's better, imo, to move any files you plan to use in your project into
your project's folders (and into source code control!) and use them from
there.

* In microsoft's view, we are all lowly users.

Even better, I see w00dy has posted; follow his advice.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:21 AM  wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> When I open REGISTRY.VCX from its usual location (in folder FFC), 
> there are no classes present.
>
>
>
> I have a good copy elsewhere and when I open it the expected classes 
> are there.
>
>
>
> So, I copied the VCX and VCT from the good location to the FFC folder 
> but still opening it from FFC there are no classes present.
>
>
>
> The VFP home folder is excluded from virus checking.
>
>
>
> I am completely baffled (and very, very frustrated) .
>
>
>
> Paul Newton
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RE: No classes in REGISTRY.VCX

[paul.newton.hudl]

Vielen danke Jürgen ... Now I can start to remedy the problem (and I'll be
taking a look at the link you sent)

Paul Newton

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Jürgen
Wondzinski
Sent: 24 February 2022 11:41
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: AW: No classes in REGISTRY.VCX

Sounds like you have installed your VFP folder in the \program files\
branch? 
Don't do that. Never. Never install any VFP DevTools into that folder.
You don't have write permissions there, and Windows redirects all writes to
the VirtualStore.

Look into %LOCALAPPDATA%\VirtualStore\ if you'll find that broken copy there

For a working VFP installation method see also
http://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/


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Betreff: No classes in REGISTRY.VCX

Hi all

 

When I open REGISTRY.VCX from its usual location (in folder FFC), there are
no classes present.

 

I have a good copy elsewhere and when I open it the expected classes are
there.

 

So, I copied the VCX and VCT from the good location to the FFC folder but
still opening it from FFC there are no classes present.

 

The VFP home folder is excluded from virus checking.

 

I am completely baffled (and very, very frustrated) .

 

Paul Newton



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No classes in REGISTRY.VCX

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

When I open REGISTRY.VCX from its usual location (in folder FFC), there are
no classes present.

 

I have a good copy elsewhere and when I open it the expected classes are
there.

 

So, I copied the VCX and VCT from the good location to the FFC folder but
still opening it from FFC there are no classes present.

 

The VFP home folder is excluded from virus checking.

 

I am completely baffled (and very, very frustrated) .

 

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RE: Report to Microsoft PDF Printer creates text as images.

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Alan

Yes, I have come across that problem but I'm afraid I can't remember whether
we fixed it and, if so, how.  I do remember that under certain conditions,
the behaviour you describe does occur.  Sorry I can't be of more help.

Paul 

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
Sent: 22 February 2022 11:26
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Report to Microsoft PDF Printer creates text as images.

We have a customer who when printing a particular report from a Visual
Foxpro application sometimes selects the Microsoft PDF Printer (installed
with MS Office). This then prompts for a PDF file to save the report output
to. They then open the PDF in Acrobat Reader or whatever and need to select
and copy some text from it.

The problem is that sometimes the PDF is rendered as an image so no
individual elements are selectable in Acrobat Reader. All fonts on the
layout are standard Arial. There are no settings on the PDF printer to
adjust and nothing on the VFP side that I can see would affect it.

Replicating this process with the report layouts in question on my PC works
fine.

Has anyone ever come across this ?


-- 
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RE: VFP code window contents to HTML - request for help/collaboration

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks, Richard

I'd definitely consider that but I'd like to take it a bit further before I
do that.  I have changes of colour more or less sorted and am now looking at
font styles ... this is on the VFP side rather than the C#/.NET side

Paul

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Sent: 19 February 2022 17:12
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP code window contents to HTML - request for
help/collaboration

Hi Paul,

I'd recommend taking this to VFPX if you're looking to create an open source
tool where folks can participate.

--

rk

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paul.newton.h...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2022 10:06 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: VFP code window contents to HTML - request for help/collaboration

Hi all



I am working on a project which I hope may be of interest to VFP developers
and which I intend to make available on Ed's downloads section (if I can get
it working properly). It is designed to:



Use the clipboard to copy code from an open code window

Fetch the contents of the clipboard as RTF

Convert the RTF to HTML and display it in a web browser control



It could be helpful in two ways:

1. To experiment with different colours and styles, change them and see the
results immediately. You can change several areas (Keywords etc) and having
made the changes (either one at a time or all at once) see their effect on
the code in the web browser (instead of that stupid little preview that you
get in Tools~Options~Editor) 2. The resulting HTML could be copied to the
clipboard and pasted straight into, for example, a web page or blog.



At the moment the RTF to HTML conversion itself makes use of a third party
control (TextDynamic). Not only is this control complete overkill for what
is needed, but it is also eye-wateringly expensive (as in £ hundreds).



So I have put together (from various sources) a C#/.NET application to do
the conversion and it builds successfully. However stepping through the code
I get to a point where there seems to be a problem (not an error, just not
doing what I tell it to do ...). The relevant part of the code is based on
HtmlToXamlDemo.HtmlFromXamlConverter.WriteFlowDocument(System.Xml.XmlTextRea
der, System.Xml.XmlTextWriter) Example (csharpcodi.com)

rter.WriteFlowDocument(System.Xml.XmlTextReader,%20System.Xml.XmlTextWriter)
/>



If anybody would be prepared to work on this with me, or to help me move
forward, would they please contact me off-list.



Many thanks



Paul Newton



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VFP code window contents to HTML - request for help/collaboration

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I am working on a project which I hope may be of interest to VFP developers
and which I intend to make available on Ed’s downloads section (if I can get
it working properly).  It is designed to:

 

Use the clipboard to copy code from an open code window

Fetch the contents of the clipboard as RTF

Convert the RTF to HTML and display it in a web browser control

 

It could be helpful in two ways:

1.  To experiment with different colours and styles, change them and see
the results immediately.  You can change several areas (Keywords etc) and
having made the changes (either one at a time or all at once) see their
effect on the code in the web browser (instead of that stupid little preview
that you get in Tools~Options~Editor) 
2.  The resulting HTML could be copied to the clipboard and pasted
straight into, for example, a web page or blog.

 

At the moment the RTF to HTML conversion itself makes use of a third party
control (TextDynamic).  Not only is this control complete overkill for what
is needed, but it is also eye-wateringly expensive (as in £ hundreds).

 

So I have put together (from various sources) a C#/.NET application to do
the conversion and it builds successfully.  However stepping through the
code I get to a point where there seems to be a problem (not an error, just
not doing what I tell it to do …).  The relevant part of the code is based
on
HtmlToXamlDemo.HtmlFromXamlConverter.WriteFlowDocument(System.Xml.XmlTextRea
der, System.Xml.XmlTextWriter) Example (csharpcodi.com)
 

 

If anybody would be prepared to work on this with me, or to help me move
forward, would they please contact me off-list.

 

Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 

 

 



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RE: Problem installing Thor

[paul.newton.hudl]

Many thanks Alan - I'll give that a try later today (I'm working on another
aspect of my current project at the moment)

Paul

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Sent: 17 February 2022 12:16
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem installing Thor

Paul

My Thor folder zipped is here:   http://sendanywhe.re/APZLD964

I am set up as follows:

The contents of that zip are in c:\users\xx\dev\vfpdev\thor\

My config.fpw for vfp9.exe has

do mysetup.prg

That prg is in the same folder as vfp9.exe and among other things has

Do "c:\users\xx\dev\vfpdev\thor\thor.app"


HTH

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RE: Problem installing Thor

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks for your suggestion Eric.  I posted a message on the group but have
had no responses.  My base location for Thor is Home()/Tools/Thor and I
tried copying folders around so that Thor now finds the MenuDefinitions
table but then I get an error "Variable 'Tool' is not found".

If anybody has a working copy of the latest Thor and would be willing to zip
it (the installed, working Thor folder) up and send it to me privately, I
would be very grateful.

Many thanks

Paul Newton

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Eric Selje
Sent: 07 February 2022 15:30
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem installing Thor

Paul, I'd direct this question to foxprot...@googlegroups.com for best
results.

Eric


On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 8:43 AM  wrote:

> Hi all
>
>
>
> I have followed the install instructions and I have Thor.APP and the 
> "Source" folder in Home().\Tools\Thor.
>
>
>
> When I run Thor.App it complains that MenuDefintions.FPT is missing or 
> invalid BUT instead of referring to
>
> .Tools\Thor\Source\Tables (where I can open the table without a 
> problem) it is expecting to find MenuDefinitions in 
> .Tools\Thor\Thor\Tables
>
>
>
> As usual, any help will be much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Paul Newton
>
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RE: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry settings and Tools~Options~Editor settings

[paul.newton.hudl]

Richard

I have already tried exactly that ...

This time for sure Hmmm, maybe NOT

Paul

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Sent: 15 February 2022 19:30
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry
settings and Tools~Options~Editor settings

I wish I knew why Lookout/Exchange keeps uuencoding my emails...

One other way to approach controlling foxuser is to create a configuration
file (clean.fpw) that has

RESOURCE=OFF

in it. For example, I have one that looks like this:

COMMAND=SYS(3050, 1, 512*1024*1024)
RESOURCE=OFF
BELL=OFF
CATMAN=OFF
MVCOUNT=2400
KEYCOMP = WINDOWS
MULTILOCK=ON
TALK = OFF
EXCLUSIVE = OFF

But to continue with your environment testing the RESOURCE line is all you
should need. Then start VFP with the -c switch pointing at the clean.fpw.
Use the full path to the config if it's not in the directory where you are
invoking VFP. At that point VFP should not be picking up any saved info from
foxuser. This time for sure

--

rk

From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Richard Kaye
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 12:02 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry
settings and Tools~Options~Editor settings

Or just set resource off if you don't want to wipe out your resource file.

--

rk

From: ProfoxTech
mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com>> On
Behalf Of j...@johnweller.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:55 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry
settings and Tools~Options~Editor settings

Just a WAG - if VFP is remembering something it will most likely be in
foxuser.dbf - have you tried deleting that?

John

John Weller
07976 393631

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> mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com to:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com%3cmailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com>
> >> On Behalf Of 
> paul.newton.h...@gmail.com ul.newton.h...@gmail.com%3cmailto:paul.newton.h...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: 15 February 2022 16:49
> To: 
> profoxt...@leafe.com fe.com%3cmailto:profoxt...@leafe.com>>
> Subject: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry
settings
> and Tools~Options~Editor settings
>
> Hi everybody
>
>
>
> I make no apologies for reposting under a different subject but I 
> think it
is
> necessary to avoid confusion. After carrying out a series of tests, 
> and restarting VFP each time I make a change, I can summarise my 
> findings as follows (what I expect is the settings I can see in the 
> Registry Editor)
>
>
>
> Summary
>
>
>
> 1. Sometimes my code window is not what I expect, but the sample code 
> window is what I expect and yet the colour dropdowns do not reflect 
> either
(the
> colour dropdowns do not even agree with the sample code window) 2. 
> Sometimes my code window and the sample code window are both what I 
> expect but the colour dropdowns do not reflect the same 3. Generally 
> speaking the sample code window IS what I expect even when my code 
> window and the colour dropdowns are NOT what I expect
>
>
>
> I am wondering if VFP's highlighting in my code windows is "remembering"
> something from somewhere which is overriding the registry settings? 
> The
only
> thing I can seem to reply upon is the sample code window in the 
> options dialog.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts, comments or ideas will be highly appreciated. Many thanks.
>
>
>
> Paul Newton
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry settings and Tools~Options~Editor settings

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Richard

I have tried setting RESOURCE OFF and it makes no difference - my code
window is still showing the wrong colours.

Paul

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Subject: RE: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry
settings and Tools~Options~Editor settings

Or just set resource off if you don't want to wipe out your resource file.

--

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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:55 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry
settings and Tools~Options~Editor settings

Just a WAG - if VFP is remembering something it will most likely be in
foxuser.dbf - have you tried deleting that?

John

John Weller
07976 393631

> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech 
> mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com>> On 
> Behalf Of 
> paul.newton.h...@gmail.com
> Sent: 15 February 2022 16:49
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry
settings
> and Tools~Options~Editor settings
>
> Hi everybody
>
>
>
> I make no apologies for reposting under a different subject but I 
> think it
is
> necessary to avoid confusion. After carrying out a series of tests, 
> and restarting VFP each time I make a change, I can summarise my 
> findings as follows (what I expect is the settings I can see in the 
> Registry Editor)
>
>
>
> Summary
>
>
>
> 1. Sometimes my code window is not what I expect, but the sample code 
> window is what I expect and yet the colour dropdowns do not reflect 
> either
(the
> colour dropdowns do not even agree with the sample code window) 2. 
> Sometimes my code window and the sample code window are both what I 
> expect but the colour dropdowns do not reflect the same 3. Generally 
> speaking the sample code window IS what I expect even when my code 
> window and the colour dropdowns are NOT what I expect
>
>
>
> I am wondering if VFP's highlighting in my code windows is "remembering"
> something from somewhere which is overriding the registry settings? 
> The
only
> thing I can seem to reply upon is the sample code window in the 
> options dialog.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts, comments or ideas will be highly appreciated. Many thanks.
>
>
>
> Paul Newton
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Update and summary of findings: Syntax highlighting, registry settings and Tools~Options~Editor settings

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi everybody

 

I make no apologies for reposting under a different subject but I think it
is necessary to avoid confusion.  After carrying out a series of tests, and
restarting VFP each time I make a change, I can summarise my findings as
follows (what I expect is the settings I can see in the Registry Editor)

 

Summary

 

1.  Sometimes my code window is not what I expect, but the sample code
window is what I expect and yet the colour dropdowns do not reflect either
(the colour dropdowns do not even agree with the sample code window)
2.  Sometimes my code window and the sample code window are both what I
expect but the colour dropdowns do not reflect the same
3.  Generally speaking the sample code window IS what I expect even when
my code window and the colour dropdowns are NOT what I expect

 

I am wondering if VFP's highlighting in my code windows is "remembering"
something from somewhere which is overriding the registry settings?  The
only thing I can seem to reply upon is the sample code window in the options
dialog.

 

Any thoughts, comments or ideas will be highly appreciated.  Many thanks.

 

Paul Newton

 

 



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RE: VFP code editor syntax highlighting not working properly (totally screwed up) - NOT SOLVED

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Richard

Further investigation shows that there is still a problem.  I am carrying
more tests as methodically as possible and will post my findings when I have
finished.

I have changed the subject line accordingly.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Richard Kaye
Sent: 15 February 2022 14:58
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP code editor syntax highlighting not working properly
(totally screwed up) - SOLVED

Let's try this again...

Nice!

--

rk

From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 8:01 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP code editor syntax highlighting not working properly
(totally screwed up) - SOLVED

On Tue, 15 Feb 2022, at 11:54 AM,
paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

> Is there/might there be a way to force VFP to respect the changed 
> colours immediately?

=SYS(3056,1)

"Forces Visual FoxPro to read its registry settings again and update itself
with the current registry settings, or to write its settings to the
registry."

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RE: VFP code editor syntax highlighting not working properly (totally screwed up) - SOLVED

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks Alan - I had never come across that one

Paul

-Original Message-
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Sent: 15 February 2022 13:01
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP code editor syntax highlighting not working properly
(totally screwed up) - SOLVED

On Tue, 15 Feb 2022, at 11:54 AM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

> Is there/might there be a way to force VFP to respect the changed 
> colours immediately?

=SYS(3056,1)

"Forces Visual FoxPro to read its registry settings again and update itself
with the current registry settings, or to write its settings to the
registry."

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  alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

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VFP code editor syntax highlighting not working properly (totally screwed up) - SOLVED

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

Although the problem has been fixed, I thought this may be helpful and/or of
interest to some of you.  I have also added at the bottom a REQUEST FOR HELP
regarding when changes to colour settings take effect (if anybody thinks
that should be a different thread, I will post another message for that)

 

I have recently been experimenting with different colours in the code
editor.  I have been using VFP's own Tools~Options~Editor and have also been
importing .REG files.  Everything has been working fine until this morning
(I have made no changes this morning).

 

I have tried "Reset All" and importing/merging a .REG file.  I exported the
VFP Options from Registry Editor and this is what the .REG contained (only
relevant entries)

 

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualFoxPro\9.0\Options]

"EditorCommentColor"="RGB(0,128,0,255,255,255), NoAuto, Auto"

"EditorKeywordColor"="RGB(0,0,255,255,255,255), NoAuto, Auto"

"EditorConstantColor"="RGB(0,0,0,255,255,255), Auto, Auto"

"EditorNormalColor"="RGB(0,0,0,255,255,255), Auto, Auto"

"EditorOperatorColor"="RGB(0,0,0,255,255,255), Auto, Auto"

"EditorStringColor"="RGB(0,0,0,255,255,255), Auto, Auto"

"EditorVariableColor"="RGB(0,0,0,255,255,255), Auto, Auto"

"EditorCommentStyle"="-1"

"EditorKeywordStyle"="-1"

"EditorConstantStyle"="-1"

"EditorNormalStyle"="-1"

"EditorOperatorStyle"="-1"

"EditorStringStyle"="-1"

"EditorVariableStyle"="-1"

 

Just after I started this message, I had another thought - in Registry
Editor, delete all the Editor colour entries and start over.  Hey presto,
that solved the problem.

 

REQUEST FOR HELP

 

When I make changes to colours using Tools~Options~Editor, the changes take
effect immediately.  If I change one or more colours *from within* VFP by
modifying the registry entries. The changes only take effect after
restarting VFP.  Is there/might there be a way to force VFP to respect the
changed colours immediately?

 

Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 



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RE: Problem with bbControls and MFC70.DLL

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Jeff

Thanks for your reply and the heads up ... it is not a must for me and I am 
looking at alternatives.  Life is too short (especially at my age) to be 
mucking around with multiple versions of the same(?) DLL 

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Jeff Roberts
Sent: 13 February 2022 15:02
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem with bbControls and MFC70.DLL

I can't say for sure but you may have an incompatible version of MFC70.DLL.
Back when I was working with Gkktools trying to get them working, I got them to 
work easily on my laptop but I had a hard time getting them working on my 
desktop. I ended up downloading several different copies of the Visual C++ 
Runtime before I finally got everything to play well together.
all the runtimes I downloaded contained a MFC70.DLL but they were not the same 
file. This may not be the same problem you are having but it is possible that 
it is a similar issue. -Jeff

On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 7:44 AM  wrote:

> Hi Tracy
>
> Thanks for your reply. That's the first thing I tried ... the OCX and 
> MFC70.DLL are in the same (download) folder and that's where I ran 
> REGSVR32 on both files.  Might it help if I copied them to a Windows folder 
> e.g.
> System32 or SYSWOW64 ?
>
> Paul
>
> BTW I tried your popup suggestion as a source for a dropdown list but 
> it was painfully slow to move through the list ... it was worth a try 
> though and I appreciate your help
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy 
> Pearson
> Sent: 13 February 2022 13:37
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with bbControls and MFC70.DLL
>
> Place it in the same directory as the OCX file.
>
> Tracy
>
> P.S. It could be in the path environment variable. This is not 
> recommended as older versions have vulnerabilities, or could be 
> changed to be a vulnerability.
>
> On February 13, 2022 7:52:24 AM EST, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >Hi all
> >
> >
> >
> >I am trying to install a couple of Bela Bodec's ActiveX controls but 
> >the OCXs fail to load - "Unable to load OCX!"
> >
> >
> >
> >I know that MFC70.DLL is required and I have a copy which came with 
> >the controls but I am not sure what to do with it:
> >
> >
> >
> >Which place(s) should I copy it to (I am running Win 10) and will I 
> >need to register it with REGSVR32?  I have already tried to run
> >REGSVR32 against MFC70.DLL in its present location but that also 
> >fails ("The module MFC70.DLL failed to load").
> >
> >
> >
> >Many thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >Paul Newton
> >
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RE: Problem with bbControls and MFC70.DLL

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Tracy

Thanks for your reply. That's the first thing I tried ... the OCX and
MFC70.DLL are in the same (download) folder and that's where I ran REGSVR32
on both files.  Might it help if I copied them to a Windows folder e.g.
System32 or SYSWOW64 ?

Paul

BTW I tried your popup suggestion as a source for a dropdown list but it was
painfully slow to move through the list ... it was worth a try though and I
appreciate your help

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
Sent: 13 February 2022 13:37
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem with bbControls and MFC70.DLL

Place it in the same directory as the OCX file.

Tracy

P.S. It could be in the path environment variable. This is not recommended
as older versions have vulnerabilities, or could be changed to be a
vulnerability.

On February 13, 2022 7:52:24 AM EST, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>Hi all
>
> 
>
>I am trying to install a couple of Bela Bodec's ActiveX controls but 
>the OCXs fail to load - "Unable to load OCX!"
>
> 
>
>I know that MFC70.DLL is required and I have a copy which came with the 
>controls but I am not sure what to do with it:
>
> 
>
>Which place(s) should I copy it to (I am running Win 10) and will I 
>need to register it with REGSVR32?  I have already tried to run 
>REGSVR32 against MFC70.DLL in its present location but that also fails 
>("The module MFC70.DLL failed to load").
>
> 
>
>Many thanks
>
> 
>
>Paul Newton
>
>
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Problem with bbControls and MFC70.DLL

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I am trying to install a couple of Bela Bodec's ActiveX controls but the
OCXs fail to load - "Unable to load OCX!"

 

I know that MFC70.DLL is required and I have a copy which came with the
controls but I am not sure what to do with it: 

 

Which place(s) should I copy it to (I am running Win 10) and will I need to
register it with REGSVR32?  I have already tried to run REGSVR32 against
MFC70.DLL in its present location but that also fails ("The module MFC70.DLL
failed to load").

 

Many thanks

 

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RE: Pictures and fontnames in dropdown lists and listboxes

[paul.newton.hudl]

Wow Tracy

That looks just what I need.  I'll give it ago later (I am in the middle of
something else right now).

Many thanks for the (amazingly quick) reply.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
Sent: 11 February 2022 14:21
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Pictures and fontnames in dropdown lists and listboxes

One of the RowSourceTypes for these controls is Popup. 
A Popup can be configured to have different fonts and images.

   LOCAL oForm
   oForm = CREATEOBJECT("formtest")
   oForm.Show(1)

   DEFINE CLASS formtest as Form 
   width = 400

   ADD OBJECT myListBox as Listbox WITH RowSourceType = 9, RowSource =
"listBoxPopup", width = 400
   
   PROCEDURE Load 
  DEFINE POPUP listBoxPopup 
  DEFINE BAR 1 OF listBoxPopup PROMPT "Comic Sans MS" FONT "Comic Sans
MS", 24 
  DEFINE BAR 2 OF listBoxPopup PROMPT "Consolas" FONT "Consolas", 14
  DEFINE BAR 3 OF listBoxPopup PROMPT "Segoe UI" FONT "Segoe UI", 18
   ENDPROC 
   
   ENDDEFINE

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
paul.newton.h...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 9:00 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Pictures and fontnames in dropdown lists and listboxes

Hi all

 

I have come up with a rather frustrating anomaly.  In the debugger I can set
the picture of a particular item in a listbox or dropdown list like this
(THIS is either one of the two controls)

 

THIS.Picture(nListIndex) = "SomePicture.BMP" and it works in both cases.
But if I try this

THIS.FontNamer(nListIndex) = "SomeFontName" it does not work even though
THIS.FontNamer(nListIndex) is a property which I can change in the debugger.

 

Does anybody have any thoughts or insights on this or is it "just one of
those things".

 

Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 



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Pictures and fontnames in dropdown lists and listboxes

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I have come up with a rather frustrating anomaly.  In the debugger I can set
the picture of a particular item in a listbox or dropdown list like this
(THIS is either one of the two controls)

 

THIS.Picture(nListIndex) = "SomePicture.BMP" and it works in both cases.
But if I try this

THIS.FontNamer(nListIndex) = "SomeFontName" it does not work even though
THIS.FontNamer(nListIndex) is a property which I can change in the debugger.

 

Does anybody have any thoughts or insights on this or is it "just one of
those things".

 

Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 



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RE: Problem installing Thor

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks Eric - I'll do that ...

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Eric Selje
Sent: 07 February 2022 15:30
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem installing Thor

Paul, I'd direct this question to foxprot...@googlegroups.com for best
results.

Eric


On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 8:43 AM  wrote:

> Hi all
>
>
>
> I have followed the install instructions and I have Thor.APP and the 
> "Source" folder in Home().\Tools\Thor.
>
>
>
> When I run Thor.App it complains that MenuDefintions.FPT is missing or 
> invalid BUT instead of referring to
>
> .Tools\Thor\Source\Tables (where I can open the table without a 
> problem) it is expecting to find MenuDefinitions in 
> .Tools\Thor\Thor\Tables
>
>
>
> As usual, any help will be much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Paul Newton
>
>
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Problem installing Thor

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I have followed the install instructions and I have Thor.APP and the
"Source" folder in Home().\Tools\Thor.

 

When I run Thor.App it complains that MenuDefintions.FPT is missing or
invalid BUT instead of referring to 

.Tools\Thor\Source\Tables (where I can open the table without a problem) it
is expecting to find MenuDefinitions in .Tools\Thor\Thor\Tables

 

As usual, any help will be much appreciated.

 

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RE: Copy contents of code/editor window with formatting

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Hi Christof

Many, many thanks for your reply.  It looks like just what I need and I will
try it out later today.  

In the meantime I have come up with a different approach for the time being.
I have created a form with an RTF OLE control and an edit box.  I run the
form using CTRL+F10.  In my editing window I use CTRL+A, CTRL+C.  Pressing
CTRL+F10 brings up my form and in the RTL OLE control I press CTRL+V.

In the Change method/event of the RTF control I set the value of the edit
box to the TextRTF property of the control.

BTW - ISX - Is that InstallShield Express?

Thanks again

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Christof
Wollenhaupt
Sent: 07 February 2022 06:43
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Copy contents of code/editor window with formatting

Hi Paul,

> 1.I want it to work with the current/open editing window

in ISX I use the following code:

*-
* Get the current window and verify that it is a valid window.
*-
Local lnWHandle
lnWHandle = GetCurrentWindow()
If lnWHandle == 0
If not Empty(m.tcInvocation)
Clear TypeAhead
Keyboard "{Mouse}{Mouse}"+m.tcInvocation Plain
Endif
Return
Endif

*-
* Verify that the current window is indeed an edit window.
*-
Local lnEditSource 
lnEditSource = GetEditSource(m.lnWHandle)
If not InList( m.lnEditSource, 1, 8, 10, 12 )
If not Empty(m.tcInvocation)
Clear TypeAhead
Keyboard "{Mouse}{Mouse}"+m.tcInvocation Plain
Endif
Return
EndIf

*
* Determines the source of the window identified by the passed 
* WHandle. It returns the following values:
*
* -1 The window is not an edit window
*  0 Command Window
*  1 MODIFY COMMAND window
*  2 MODIFY FILE window
*  8 Menu Designer code window
* 10 Method Edit Window in Class or Form Designer
* 12 MODIFY PROCEDURE window
*
* This procedure uses _EdGetEnv() from the FoxTools.Fll to determine
* the edit source. Passing an invalid handle causes an exception in
* VFP 5 and VFP 3. In VFP 6 this raises an error 2028 (API function
* caused an exception). Therefore we return -1 in this case, too.
*
Procedure GetEditSource
LParameter tnWHandle

Local laEnv[25], lnSource, lnOK, lcError
lcError = On( "Error" )
On Error lnOK = 0
lnOK = _EdGetEnv( m.tnWHandle, @laEnv )
On Error 
If m.lnOK == 0
lnSource = -1
Else
lnSource = laEnv[25]
Endif

Return m.lnSource


*
* Returns the WHandle of the current edit window or 0, if no edit
* window is available.
*
Procedure GetCurrentWindow

Local lnWindowOnTop
lnWindowOnTop = _WOnTop()
If m.lnWindowOnTop <= 0
Return 0
Endif
If GetEditSource( m.lnWindowOnTop ) == -1
lnWindowOnTop = 0
Endif

Return m.lnWindowOnTop


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RE: Copy contents of code/editor window with formatting

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Andy, thanks for your reply.

Yes but that displays the rendered RTF and I want to work with the underlying 
RTF (including the various tags - e.g. font name, size, weight, style, colour 
etc)

Paul

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Sent: 07 February 2022 07:19
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Copy contents of code/editor window with formatting

I don't know about automating it but this seems to work in the edit window:
Ctl_A  Ctl_C  -> in e.g. Word - Ctl_V  - save as  type .rtf


On 07-Feb-22 5:19 AM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all
>
>   
>
> I am trying to copy the contents of the editing window that is 
> currently active (i.e. that I am editing) as text with its RTF 
> formatting code.  What I have got (cribbed) so far is this:
>
>   
>
> SET LIBRARY TO (HOME()+"Foxtools.FLL")
>
> nWHAND =_EDOPENFIL("TEST.PRG", 1)
>
> nEDstart = _EDSKIPLIN(m.nWHAND,0,0)
>
> nEDend   = _EDSKIPLIN(m.nWHAND,0,10)
>
> = _EDSELECT(m.nWHAND, m.nEDstart, m.nEDend)
>
> = _EDCOPY(m.nWHAND)
>
> = _EDCLOSEFI(m.nWHAND, 0)
>
>   
>
> This works fine insofar as I can paste the code into Word and see that 
> the code highlighting is correct.  But there are a couple of issues I 
> haven't yet been able to resolve:
>
>   
>
> 1.I want it to work with the current/open editing window
> 2.I want to work with the underlying RTF, i.e. the text together with
> the RTF formatting tags
>
>   
>
> I expect to invoke the code to do this via a hotkey so that the window 
> that I am working on will be the active window.  Any help or 
> suggestions would be much appreciated.  Many thanks.
>
>   
>
> Paul Newton
>
>
>
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Copy contents of code/editor window with formatting

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I am trying to copy the contents of the editing window that is currently
active (i.e. that I am editing) as text with its RTF formatting code.  What
I have got (cribbed) so far is this:

 

SET LIBRARY TO (HOME()+"Foxtools.FLL")

nWHAND =_EDOPENFIL("TEST.PRG", 1)

nEDstart = _EDSKIPLIN(m.nWHAND,0,0)

nEDend   = _EDSKIPLIN(m.nWHAND,0,10)

= _EDSELECT(m.nWHAND, m.nEDstart, m.nEDend)

= _EDCOPY(m.nWHAND)

= _EDCLOSEFI(m.nWHAND, 0)

 

This works fine insofar as I can paste the code into Word and see that the
code highlighting is correct.  But there are a couple of issues I haven't
yet been able to resolve:

 

1.  I want it to work with the current/open editing window
2.  I want to work with the underlying RTF, i.e. the text together with
the RTF formatting tags

 

I expect to invoke the code to do this via a hotkey so that the window that
I am working on will be the active window.  Any help or suggestions would be
much appreciated.  Many thanks.

 

Paul Newton



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RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell command (Fox related)

[paul.newton.hudl]

SFA ... 

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
Sent: 10 January 2022 07:49
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell 
command (Fox related)

> I have everything working as expected for SCX, VCX, MNX, FRX and LBX.  
> I am still to address DBF, DBC, PRG and, perhaps, QPR

What have Queen's Park Rangers got to do with it :)

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RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell command (Fox related)

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks Alan (and all other responders)

I have everything working as expected for SCX, VCX, MNX, FRX and LBX.  I am
still to address DBF, DBC, PRG and, perhaps, QPR

The funny thing is that I can't remember having had this work in the past
and had been assuming all along that VFP simply did not work as expected
when double-clicking Fox files in Explorer - hence my attempts with
PowerShell (and with a C # console app).

Paul

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From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
Sent: 09 January 2022 09:04
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Paul

Same registry values, same expected action on double clicking here.

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RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell command (Fox related)

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks Alan, wOOdy and Michael

I am going to try wOOdy's suggestion first and see where that takes me.  Can
anybody confirm what happens (and what the relevant registry entries are)
when double-clicking on an SCX, an FRX and a VCX (not all at the same time
)?

Many thanks, again

Paul

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Sent: 08 January 2022 15:15
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Paul

For me double-clicking a PJX in Windows also opens VFP9 with the project
file open and ready.

When I examine the .pjx entry using FileTypesMan
(https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/file_types_manager.html) the registry key is:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Visual.FoxPro.Project\shell\open\command

and the value is a REG_SZ equal to 

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9\vfp9.exe" -SHELLOPEN "%1"

HTH

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RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell command (Fox related)

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Mike

Could you show us what relevant entries you have in the registry - for as
long as I can remember double clicking on a PJX gives ... not an object file

Paul 

Off to bed until tomorrow

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From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Michael
Glassman
Sent: 07 January 2022 23:52
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Paul,

I'm not sure why you're having to go to such lengths.  When I double-click a
PJX or PJT file in Windows Explorer, the project automatically opens up in
the project manager.

Mike



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Subject: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Hi all

 

I have been toying on and off over several years with a method of opening
VFP with a MODIFY command when double-clicking a file in Explorer.  For
example, double-clicking on a PJX in Explorer should open VFP with the
command MODIFY PROJECT  NOWAIT.

 

I am almost there, maybe.  At the moment everything is in C:\Temp

 

ConFig.FPW contains

Command = C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG 

*FoxOpen.PRG is constructed on-the fly by a PowerShell script TEST.PS1 as
follows:

 

TEST.PS1

Param([string]$a)

$file=Get-Item "$a"

$Extension = $file.Extension.ToUpper()

$Command = ""

switch ($Extension)

{

.PJX

{

$Command = "Modify Project '"+ $a + "' NOWAIT"

}

   # Other cases follow

}

Set-Content -Path C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG -Value $Command

& "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9\vfp9.exe"
-CC:\Temp\Config.FPW

 

I have tested this in a PowerShell console like this

PS C:\Temp> C:\Temp\Test.PS1  where  is a fully qualified
path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

I have also tested in a COMMAND window like this

C:\Temp> PowerShell C:\Temp\Test.PS1  again where  is a
fully qualified path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

So far, so good.  Now for how to implement the shell command.  My registry
settings are as follows:

 

Computer\HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT

PJXFile  (Default)  REG-SZ Project (FoxPro)

Shell  (Default)  REG_SZ (value not set)

Modify project  (Default) REG_SZ (value not
set)

Command   (Default)
REG_SZ "POWERSHELL C:\Temp\Test1.PS1" "%1"

 

However, double-clicking on a PJX results in:

Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have
the appropriate permissions to access the item.

 

It seems as if I am nearly there, so any suggestions will be very gratefully
received.  Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 

P.S. My first attempt at doing anything useful with PowerShell



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RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell command (Fox related)

[paul.newton.hudl]

Tracy

Tried several variations of quotes and spaces without success so far - will
have another look tomorrow.  Thanks again

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
Sent: 07 January 2022 23:20
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Now it might be the quote marks and the parameters. Perhaps a single quote
mark. 

"C:\Temp\Test1.PS1 '%1'"

Embedded quotes. 

I'm grabbing at straws here.
The original entry was this:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9\vfp9.exe" -SHELLOPEN "%1"


Me, I had created config.fpw files for each of my projects that have a
command entry to run a startup.prg that does my environment setup and opens
my project files.

I've not gotten myself into PowerShell. I'm so used to a command prompt from
the DOS days when we started Windows from a command.

HTH,
Tracy

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paul.newton.h...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 6:10 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Hi Tracy

I tried setting the command in the registry to
"C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe"
"C:\Temp\Test1.PS1" "%1"

I no longer get an error but all I see is a PowerShell window which flashes
on the screen briefly and then closes ...

Paul

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From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
Sent: 07 January 2022 22:55
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

You may need the fully qualified path to the PowerShell executable for it to
work.

HTH,
Tracy

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paul.newton.h...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 5:43 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Hi all

 

I have been toying on and off over several years with a method of opening
VFP with a MODIFY command when double-clicking a file in Explorer.  For
example, double-clicking on a PJX in Explorer should open VFP with the
command MODIFY PROJECT  NOWAIT.

 

I am almost there, maybe.  At the moment everything is in C:\Temp

 

ConFig.FPW contains

Command = C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG 

*FoxOpen.PRG is constructed on-the fly by a PowerShell script TEST.PS1 as
follows:

 

TEST.PS1

Param([string]$a)

$file=Get-Item "$a"

$Extension = $file.Extension.ToUpper()

$Command = ""

switch ($Extension)

{

.PJX

{

$Command = "Modify Project '"+ $a + "' NOWAIT"

}

   # Other cases follow

}

Set-Content -Path C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG -Value $Command

& "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9\vfp9.exe"
-CC:\Temp\Config.FPW

 

I have tested this in a PowerShell console like this

PS C:\Temp> C:\Temp\Test.PS1  where  is a fully qualified
path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

I have also tested in a COMMAND window like this

C:\Temp> PowerShell C:\Temp\Test.PS1  again where  is a
fully qualified path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

So far, so good.  Now for how to implement the shell command.  My registry
settings are as follows:

 

Computer\HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT

PJXFile  (Default)  REG-SZ Project (FoxPro)

Shell  (Default)  REG_SZ (value not set)

Modify project  (Default) REG_SZ (value not
set)

Command   (Default)
REG_SZ "POWERSHELL C:\Temp\Test1.PS1" "%1"

 

However, double-clicking on a PJX results in:

Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have
the appropriate permissions to access the item.

 

It seems as if I am nearly there, so any suggestions will be very gratefully
received.  Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 

P.S. My first attempt at doing anything useful with PowerShell



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RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell command (Fox related)

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Tracy

I tried setting the command in the registry to 
"C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe"
"C:\Temp\Test1.PS1" "%1"

I no longer get an error but all I see is a PowerShell window which flashes
on the screen briefly and then closes ...

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
Sent: 07 January 2022 22:55
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

You may need the fully qualified path to the PowerShell executable for it to
work.

HTH,
Tracy

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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
paul.newton.h...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 5:43 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Hi all

 

I have been toying on and off over several years with a method of opening
VFP with a MODIFY command when double-clicking a file in Explorer.  For
example, double-clicking on a PJX in Explorer should open VFP with the
command MODIFY PROJECT  NOWAIT.

 

I am almost there, maybe.  At the moment everything is in C:\Temp

 

ConFig.FPW contains

Command = C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG 

*FoxOpen.PRG is constructed on-the fly by a PowerShell script TEST.PS1 as
follows:

 

TEST.PS1

Param([string]$a)

$file=Get-Item "$a"

$Extension = $file.Extension.ToUpper()

$Command = ""

switch ($Extension)

{

.PJX

{

$Command = "Modify Project '"+ $a + "' NOWAIT"

}

   # Other cases follow

}

Set-Content -Path C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG -Value $Command

& "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9\vfp9.exe"
-CC:\Temp\Config.FPW

 

I have tested this in a PowerShell console like this

PS C:\Temp> C:\Temp\Test.PS1  where  is a fully qualified
path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

I have also tested in a COMMAND window like this

C:\Temp> PowerShell C:\Temp\Test.PS1  again where  is a
fully qualified path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

So far, so good.  Now for how to implement the shell command.  My registry
settings are as follows:

 

Computer\HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT

PJXFile  (Default)  REG-SZ Project (FoxPro)

Shell  (Default)  REG_SZ (value not set)

Modify project  (Default) REG_SZ (value not
set)

Command   (Default)
REG_SZ "POWERSHELL C:\Temp\Test1.PS1" "%1"

 

However, double-clicking on a PJX results in:

Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have
the appropriate permissions to access the item.

 

It seems as if I am nearly there, so any suggestions will be very gratefully
received.  Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 

P.S. My first attempt at doing anything useful with PowerShell



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RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell command (Fox related)

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks Tracy - I'll give that a try just now ... will let you know in  a few
minutes

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
Sent: 07 January 2022 22:55
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

You may need the fully qualified path to the PowerShell executable for it to
work.

HTH,
Tracy

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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
paul.newton.h...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 5:43 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell
command (Fox related)

Hi all

 

I have been toying on and off over several years with a method of opening
VFP with a MODIFY command when double-clicking a file in Explorer.  For
example, double-clicking on a PJX in Explorer should open VFP with the
command MODIFY PROJECT  NOWAIT.

 

I am almost there, maybe.  At the moment everything is in C:\Temp

 

ConFig.FPW contains

Command = C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG 

*FoxOpen.PRG is constructed on-the fly by a PowerShell script TEST.PS1 as
follows:

 

TEST.PS1

Param([string]$a)

$file=Get-Item "$a"

$Extension = $file.Extension.ToUpper()

$Command = ""

switch ($Extension)

{

.PJX

{

$Command = "Modify Project '"+ $a + "' NOWAIT"

}

   # Other cases follow

}

Set-Content -Path C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG -Value $Command

& "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9\vfp9.exe"
-CC:\Temp\Config.FPW

 

I have tested this in a PowerShell console like this

PS C:\Temp> C:\Temp\Test.PS1  where  is a fully qualified
path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

I have also tested in a COMMAND window like this

C:\Temp> PowerShell C:\Temp\Test.PS1  again where  is a
fully qualified path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

So far, so good.  Now for how to implement the shell command.  My registry
settings are as follows:

 

Computer\HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT

PJXFile  (Default)  REG-SZ Project (FoxPro)

Shell  (Default)  REG_SZ (value not set)

Modify project  (Default) REG_SZ (value not
set)

Command   (Default)
REG_SZ "POWERSHELL C:\Temp\Test1.PS1" "%1"

 

However, double-clicking on a PJX results in:

Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have
the appropriate permissions to access the item.

 

It seems as if I am nearly there, so any suggestions will be very gratefully
received.  Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 

P.S. My first attempt at doing anything useful with PowerShell



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Problem trying to run a Powershell script as an Explorer shell command (Fox related)

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Hi all

 

I have been toying on and off over several years with a method of opening
VFP with a MODIFY command when double-clicking a file in Explorer.  For
example, double-clicking on a PJX in Explorer should open VFP with the
command MODIFY PROJECT  NOWAIT.

 

I am almost there, maybe.  At the moment everything is in C:\Temp

 

ConFig.FPW contains

Command = C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG 

*FoxOpen.PRG is constructed on-the fly by a PowerShell script TEST.PS1 as
follows:

 

TEST.PS1

Param([string]$a)

$file=Get-Item "$a"

$Extension = $file.Extension.ToUpper()

$Command = ""

switch ($Extension)

{

.PJX

{

$Command = "Modify Project '"+ $a + "' NOWAIT"

}

   # Other cases follow

}

Set-Content -Path C:\Temp\FoxOpen.PRG -Value $Command

& "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9\vfp9.exe"
-CC:\Temp\Config.FPW

 

I have tested this in a PowerShell console like this

PS C:\Temp> C:\Temp\Test.PS1  where  is a fully qualified
path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

I have also tested in a COMMAND window like this

C:\Temp> PowerShell C:\Temp\Test.PS1  again where  is a
fully qualified path to a PJX, enclosed in single quotes

 

So far, so good.  Now for how to implement the shell command.  My registry
settings are as follows:

 

Computer\HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT

PJXFile  (Default)  REG-SZ Project (FoxPro)

Shell  (Default)  REG_SZ (value not set)

Modify project  (Default)
REG_SZ (value not set)

Command   (Default)
REG_SZ "POWERSHELL C:\Temp\Test1.PS1" "%1"

 

However, double-clicking on a PJX results in:

Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have
the appropriate permissions to access the item.

 

It seems as if I am nearly there, so any suggestions will be very gratefully
received.  Many thanks

 

Paul Newton

 

P.S. My first attempt at doing anything useful with PowerShell



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[NF] Compatibility tab missing from file properties in Explorer

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I have tried two methods to restore the compatibility tab in Windows 10

 

In Local Group Policy Editor ~ Computer Configuration ~ Administrative
Templates ~ Windows Components ~ Application Compatibility I have set
"Remove Program Compatibility Property Page" to disabled.

 

In the registry at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\AppCompat I have
added the DWORD DisablePropPage  and set the value to 0 (Hex).

 

I have restarted Explorer and restarted my computer but still the
Compatibility tab is missing. I can set compatibility mode using the Program
Compatibility Troubleshooter but it is very long-winded.  Any suggestions
would be highly appreciated.

 

Paul Newton

 



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[NF] Help with LastPass

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I think it was Ed who first brought LastPass to my/our attention.  I have
never looked back, so, thanks Ed

I have a login page which requires a Customer Number and a Surname or
Postcode (in my vase it will be my surname).

How can I set up LastPass to save and autofill this login page?

 

And any advice on setting up and using Form Fields in LastPass would also be
very helpful.

 

Many thanks

 

Paul Newton



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RE: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

[paul.newton.hudl]

Thanks Man-wai

I will definitely follow up on your suggestion if/when I am working with a mix 
of Windows and Linux machines.

PaulNewton

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang
Sent: 25 September 2021 14:20
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

If your NAS OS had WSDD, you could avoid using SMB1.

(My router is running DD-WRT with ksmbd and WSDD2)

Samba 4, shares, wsdd and Windows 10 – how to list Linux Samba servers in the 
Win 10 Explorer | Linux-Blog – Dr. Mönchmeyer / anracon – Augsburg 
https://linux-blog.anracom.com/2020/05/24/samba-4-shares-wsdd-and-windows-10-how-to-list-linux-samba-servers-in-the-win-10-explorer/

Making Linux Samba shares visible to Windows hosts after WannaCry - Doug 
Rathbone 
https://dougrathbone.com/blog/2020/09/14/making-linux-samba-shares-browsable-to-windows-hosts-after-wannacry

Bug #1831441 “Please add WS-Discovery ( WSD ) support for Window...” :
Bugs : samba package : Ubuntu
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1831441

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 7:15 PM Paul Newton  wrote:
>
> Thanks Andy
> I'll try to find out if my NAS adapter requires SMB1 - it's  US 
> Robotics Mini NAS adapter

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RE: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

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Thanks Ted but there was really no need to apologise ... 

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: 24 September 2021 22:55
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

Sorry, Paul, that was my best guess. I quit Windows networking when AD came 
along. I'm sure people have solved this problem, keep searching.

Upgrading may be the fastest/cheapest solution, I agree.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 11:36 AM  wrote:

> Hi Ted et al
> I tried everything there without success.  I'm at the stage where the 
> desktop is showing no computers on the network (not even itself) and 
> the laptop is showing all the computers and a networked printer, but 
> only if
> SMB1 is enabled (which, after Alan's warning, I don't want to do).  
> Would I be right in thinking that I could solve everything by 
> upgrading to Windows
> 10 Professional?
>
> Many thanks
> Paul Newton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ted Roche
> Sent: 22 September 2021 20:31
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer
>
> This topic is over 3 years old, so proceed with caution:
>
>
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-10-share
> d-fold er-not-showing/f80e3e1e-0703-4fdf-bfdb-737800ff726e
>  ed-folder-not-showing/f80e3e1e-0703-4fdf-bfdb-737800ff726e>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:15 AM Paul Newton 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Alan
> > I have now disabled SMB1 on both computers and the Network node in 
> > Explorer now shows no computers at all (on either computer). Do I 
> > just accept that this is a limitation of Windows 10 Home Edition?
> > Paul
> >
> > Get Outlook for Android 
> > 
> > From: ProfoxTech  on behalf of Alan 
> > Bourke < alanpbou...@fastmail.fm>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:37:14 AM
> > To: profoxt...@leafe.com 
> > Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer
> >
> > Don't enable SMB1 support. You might as well leave your front door 
> > open when you leave the house.
> >
> > --
> >   Alan Bourke
> >   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
> >
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RE: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi Ted et al
I tried everything there without success.  I'm at the stage where the
desktop is showing no computers on the network (not even itself) and the
laptop is showing all the computers and a networked printer, but only if
SMB1 is enabled (which, after Alan's warning, I don't want to do).  Would I
be right in thinking that I could solve everything by upgrading to Windows
10 Professional?

Many thanks
Paul Newton

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: 22 September 2021 20:31
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

This topic is over 3 years old, so proceed with caution:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-10-shared-fold
er-not-showing/f80e3e1e-0703-4fdf-bfdb-737800ff726e



On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:15 AM Paul Newton 
wrote:

> Thanks Alan
> I have now disabled SMB1 on both computers and the Network node in 
> Explorer now shows no computers at all (on either computer). Do I just 
> accept that this is a limitation of Windows 10 Home Edition?
> Paul
>
> Get Outlook for Android 
> 
> From: ProfoxTech  on behalf of Alan 
> Bourke < alanpbou...@fastmail.fm>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:37:14 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com 
> Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer
>
> Don't enable SMB1 support. You might as well leave your front door 
> open when you leave the house.
>
> --
>   Alan Bourke
>   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
>
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[NF] Windows 10 Home networking and Explorer

[paul.newton.hudl]

Hi all

 

I am afraid that I have been rather quiet since being made redundant at the
end of February but I am now having a problem with "Network" in File
Explorer.  This is the setup:

 

Virgin Hub 3 connected via cable to

  DesktopPC, Laptop, US robotics Mini NAS adapter and Netgear Powerline
adapter

 

I have an external drive (STORAGE-0001) connected via USB to the NAS
adapter.

 

On both the desktop and the laptop Network in File Explorer shows

 

Media Devices(1)

Sorage-0001 which when opened shows the NAS manager in a browser window/tab

 

Network Infrastructure (1)

  ARRIS TG2492LG-85 Router which when opened shows the Hub 3 settings in a
browser window/tab

  

On the Desktop, Network in File Manager shows Computers (3)

  DesktopPC

  Laptop

  Storage-001 (which when opened shows the shared Public folder on the
external drive)

 

However, on the Laptop, Network in File Manager shows Computers (1) which is
the laptop itself and when opened shows its shared folder(s).

DesktopPC and Storage-0001 are not shown but can be opened by typing their
network names (\\ DesktopPC and \\Storage-0001  ) into
the Explorer address bar.

 

After searching and trying all manner of suggestions I am still unable to
resolve the issue (I am not even sure whether changes are required on the
laptop or the desktop or both). I can provide further information if needed.

 

Any help or suggestions would be highly appreciated.  Many thanks, and
apologies for the length of the message

 

Paul Newton



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