Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
And as always Robert Cailliau isn't mentioned.

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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a 
 bit nuts, is the real deal.




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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Michael Madigan
He also said the core of the Earth is millions of degrees Fahrenheit.  Are you 
going to dispute that one too?  


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Hey there Ed,

Thank you for setting us straight on this one. Its nice to see someone 
on this list say something decent about Gore - considering how MUCH 
BASHING of Gore is constantly happening on the OT list - especially with 
Pete always referring to GoreHole! Dang...

:-)
-K-


On 6/15/2012 9:22 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

 He made exactly the claim that I think he did. Quite obviously I can read a 
 I read it right about the time he made it. Still doesn't make what he claims 
 correct.
     Hmmm... whom to believe? You, or Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn, who created 
 the TCP/IP protocol and are generally considered the fathers of the 
 internet?

 Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the 
 Internet and to promote and support its development. No one person or even 
 small group of persons exclusively invented the Internet. It is the result 
 of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the 
 university community.  But as the two people who designed the basic 
 architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would 
 like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as 
 Vice President.  No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a 
 greater contribution over a longer period of time.

     So go ahead and continue to support the ridiculous notion that Al Gore 
 claimed to have invented the internet. The facts speak for themselves.

     
 -- Ed Leafe





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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Al Gore is a genius.    He's too stupid to realize he is off by MAGNITUDES.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNk7zCI8E_8 



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And as always Robert Cailliau isn't mentioned.

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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a 
 bit nuts, is the real deal.




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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

 That said, no where did I say that he 'claimed to have invented the Internet'.

Kurt wrote:  I was skeptical by the title of this message - since many have 
busted on Gore for claiming he invented The Web.

Your reply: Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, 
while a bit nuts, is the real deal.

I'll leave it for those who are familiar with logic to parse your reply.


-- Ed Leafe




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RE: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread John Harvey
I'm wondering if Algore doesn't really know the things he says are
ludicrous, but maybe also believes it's a business decision. He can say
stuff the wackos will lap up and it has been extremely profitable for him.
So, in a twisted sort of way, you have to admire his business acumen! Lol

John

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Al Gore is a genius.    He's too stupid to realize he is off by MAGNITUDES.
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNk7zCI8E_8 



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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:05 AM
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And as always Robert Cailliau isn't mentioned.

A+
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a
bit nuts, is the real deal.




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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Ricardo Araoz
On 16/06/12 10:26, Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

 That said, no where did I say that he 'claimed to have invented the 
 Internet'.
 Kurt wrote:  I was skeptical by the title of this message - since many have 
 busted on Gore for claiming he invented The Web.

 Your reply: Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. 
 Berners-Lee, while a bit nuts, is the real deal.

   I'll leave it for those who are familiar with logic to parse your reply.


What does logic have to do with his replies?


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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Michael Oke, II
Please don't comment on things you have no experience with. 

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On Jun 16, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16/06/12 10:26, Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
 
 That said, no where did I say that he 'claimed to have invented the 
 Internet'.
 Kurt wrote:  I was skeptical by the title of this message - since many have 
 busted on Gore for claiming he invented The Web.
 
 Your reply: Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. 
 Berners-Lee, while a bit nuts, is the real deal.
 
I'll leave it for those who are familiar with logic to parse your reply.
 
 
 What does logic have to do with his replies?
 
 
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Michael Oke, II
No need to parse it. Gore's claim and the urban legend that has come to 
encompass it had to do with the Internet and not the web and my statement 
referenced such. I did not say that he claimed to have invented the Internet 
but I am sure that there are those who still believe so. 


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On Jun 16, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
 
 That said, no where did I say that he 'claimed to have invented the 
 Internet'.
 
 Kurt wrote:  I was skeptical by the title of this message - since many have 
 busted on Gore for claiming he invented The Web.
 
 Your reply: Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. 
 Berners-Lee, while a bit nuts, is the real deal.
 
I'll leave it for those who are familiar with logic to parse your reply.
 
 
 -- Ed Leafe
 
 
 
 
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes Ricardo, please wait for a thread on STDs.  


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Please don't comment on things you have no experience with. 

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On Jun 16, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16/06/12 10:26, Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
 
 That said, no where did I say that he 'claimed to have invented the 
 Internet'.
 Kurt wrote:  I was skeptical by the title of this message - since many have 
 busted on Gore for claiming he invented The Web.
 
 Your reply: Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. 
 Berners-Lee, while a bit nuts, is the real deal.
 
    I'll leave it for those who are familiar with logic to parse your reply.
 
 
 What does logic have to do with his re[excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Ricardo Araoz
On 16/06/12 12:51, Michael Madigan wrote:
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Ricardo Araoz
On 16/06/12 12:20, Michael Oke, II wrote:
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-16 Thread Michael Madigan
This was your most cohesive post to date.   


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On 16/06/12 12:51, Michael Madigan[excessive quoting removed by server]

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RE: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Kurt Wendt
Hey Stephen,

Thank you SO MUCH for sending us that link. I was skeptical by the title
of this message - since many have busted on Gore for claiming he
invented The Web. So - glad to see it was the REAL guy who did it. What
makes this Video so Apropos for this group is that its really ALL ABOUT
DATA - which is what we all specialize in - so the video should hit
home with ALL of us!

Very cool indeed. Thanks again!
-K-

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http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html
-- 
Stephen Russell

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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Oke, II
Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a bit 
nuts, is the real deal. 


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On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Kurt Wendt kurtwe...@waitex.com wrote:

 Hey Stephen,
 
 Thank you SO MUCH for sending us that link. I was skeptical by the title
 of this message - since many have busted on Gore for claiming he
 invented The Web. So - glad to see it was the REAL guy who did it. What
 makes this Video so Apropos for this group is that its really ALL ABOUT
 DATA - which is what we all specialize in - so the video should hit
 home with ALL of us!
 
 Very cool indeed. Thanks again!
 -K-
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On
 Behalf Of Stephen Russell
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:17 PM
 
 http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html
 -- 
 Stephen Russell
 
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Madigan
The difference between a journalism major and a man with a real scientific 
degree.  


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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a bit 
nuts, is the real deal. 


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On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Kurt Wendt kurtwe...@waitex.com wrote:

 Hey Stephen,
 
 Thank you SO MUCH for sending us that link. I was skeptical by the title
 of this message - since many have busted on Gore for claiming he
 invented The Web. So - glad to see it was the REAL guy who did it. What
 makes this Video so Apropos for this group is that its really ALL ABOUT
 DATA - which is what we all specialize in - so the video should hit
 home with ALL of us!
 
 Very cool indeed. Thanks again!
 -K-
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On
 Behalf Of Stephen Russell
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:17 PM
 
 http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html
 -- 
 Stephe[excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

 Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a 
 bit nuts, is the real deal. 

I know I'm talking to a wall if after 12 years people are still 
repeating a lie, but...


http://websearch.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJzTi=1sdn=websearchcdn=computetm=15f=10tt=12bt=1bts=0zu=http%3A//www.sethf.com/gore/
( -or- http://j.mp/KHXVji )


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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Oke, II
Gore made no claim about the Internet?


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On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
 
 Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a 
 bit nuts, is the real deal. 
 
I know I'm talking to a wall if after 12 years people are still repeating 
 a lie, but...
 

 http://websearch.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJzTi=1sdn=websearchcdn=computetm=15f=10tt=12bt=1bts=0zu=http%3A//www.sethf.com/gore/
( -or- http://j.mp/KHXVji )
 
 
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 15, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

 Gore made no claim about the Internet?

Not the claim you probably think he did. But you can read, can't you? 
The link will make that clear to anyone who is able to read.


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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Oke, II
He made exactly the claim that I think he did. Quite obviously I can read a I 
read it right about the time he made it. Still doesn't make what he claims 
correct. 


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On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 On Jun 15, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
 
 Gore made no claim about the Internet?
 
Not the claim you probably think he did. But you can read, can't you? The 
 link will make that clear to anyone who is able to read.
 
 
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

 He made exactly the claim that I think he did. Quite obviously I can read a I 
 read it right about the time he made it. Still doesn't make what he claims 
 correct. 

Hmmm... whom to believe? You, or Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn, who created 
the TCP/IP protocol and are generally considered the fathers of the internet?

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the 
Internet and to promote and support its development. No one person or even 
small group of persons exclusively invented the Internet. It is the result of 
many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the 
university community.  But as the two people who designed the basic 
architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like 
to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice 
President.  No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater 
contribution over a longer period of time.

So go ahead and continue to support the ridiculous notion that Al Gore 
claimed to have invented the internet. The facts speak for themselves.


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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hey there Ed,

Thank you for setting us straight on this one. Its nice to see someone 
on this list say something decent about Gore - considering how MUCH 
BASHING of Gore is constantly happening on the OT list - especially with 
Pete always referring to GoreHole! Dang...

:-)
-K-


On 6/15/2012 9:22 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

 He made exactly the claim that I think he did. Quite obviously I can read a 
 I read it right about the time he made it. Still doesn't make what he claims 
 correct.
   Hmmm... whom to believe? You, or Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn, who created 
 the TCP/IP protocol and are generally considered the fathers of the 
 internet?

 Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the 
 Internet and to promote and support its development. No one person or even 
 small group of persons exclusively invented the Internet. It is the result 
 of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the 
 university community.  But as the two people who designed the basic 
 architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would 
 like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as 
 Vice President.  No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a 
 greater contribution over a longer period of time.

   So go ahead and continue to support the ridiculous notion that Al Gore 
 claimed to have invented the internet. The facts speak for themselves.

   
 -- Ed Leafe





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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On 06/15/2012 02:17 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
 http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html


Hi Stephen,

No! Al Gore invented the web. Just ask him, he'll tell you!
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On 06/15/2012 07:19 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

 Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee,
 while a bit nuts, is the real deal.

 I know I'm talking to a wall if after 12 years people are still
 repeating a lie, but...

 http://websearch.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJzTi=1sdn=websearchcdn=computetm=15f=10tt=12bt=1bts=0zu=http%3A//www.sethf.com/gore/


( -or- http://j.mp/KHXVji )

Hi Ed,

If I, or any Republican, were to say I took the initiative in creating
the Internet. You would be up and down all over us for so doing, and 
rightly so. But since Gore is a butt-hole Democrat who gets extra points 
for cheating on his wife, he can do no wrong in your eyes.
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Pete
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On 06/15/2012 09:50 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote:
 Hey there Ed,

 Thank you for setting us straight on this one. Its nice to see
 someone on this list say something decent about Gore - considering
 how MUCH BASHING of Gore is constantly happening on the OT list -
 especially with Pete always referring to GoreHole! Dang...

 :-) -K-

Hi Kurt,

I changed it a little today so you won't be bored :-)
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Re: [NF] He invented the Web.

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Oke, II
Again, I know what they said and you might want to dig a bit deeper along those 
lines. That said, no where did I say that he 'claimed to have invented the 
Internet'. That is a distilled version of his actual statement and has become 
an urban legend, for both sides  of the aisle. 


Michael Oke, II
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On Jun 15, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
 
 He made exactly the claim that I think he did. Quite obviously I can read a 
 I read it right about the time he made it. Still doesn't make what he claims 
 correct. 
 
Hmmm... whom to believe? You, or Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn, who created 
 the TCP/IP protocol and are generally considered the fathers of the 
 internet?
 
 Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the 
 Internet and to promote and support its development. No one person or even 
 small group of persons exclusively invented the Internet. It is the result 
 of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the 
 university community.  But as the two people who designed the basic 
 architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would 
 like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as 
 Vice President.  No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a 
 greater contribution over a longer period of time.
 
So go ahead and continue to support the ridiculous notion that Al Gore 
 claimed to have invented the internet. The facts speak for themselves.
 

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