[NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
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Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
Interesting article although as many of the commenters point out - how much of the decision is a marketing exercise ... -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1333456201.14765.140661057724801.4a0d6...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? Supposed to is the key here. Have you ever tried writing to multiple browsers? IE6 was horrendous. 7 is only slightly better; 8 finally seems to be making progress. But even 8 is way behind the other choices. Here are the only 4 reasons to ever use IE: http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2009/11/04/reasons-internet-explorer/ -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4057a9c0-5a9c-40f8-8ee1-66a75190d...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
Ed Leafe wrote: On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? Supposed to is the key here. Have you ever tried writing to multiple browsers? IE6 was horrendous. 7 is only slightly better; 8 finally seems to be making progress. But even 8 is way behind the other choices. Here are the only 4 reasons to ever use IE: http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2009/11/04/reasons-internet-explorer/ -- Ed Leafe Hi Ed, This is an older article. Could be updated thus: Shop for a Mac, Download Linux, Test antivirus. Mozilla is typically included in Linux. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4f7af516.8050...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cajidmykmeggty8ogrn8yzst_zydi2bo_h_rkouo1zhnfs_r...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
htmlhello world/html That'll work on all browsers. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012, at 08:14 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1333460484.30677.140661057751589.66f97...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: htmlhello world/html That'll work on all browsers. Except for those looking for a body tag :-) On Tue, Apr 3, 2012, at 08:14 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0++ex9J0T61R-+MtN_0YFRCTxViyoJJP=ttfqgv-pud...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
On 4/3/2012 9:14 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. heheheheheforgot the eg tag -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4f7b0362.8050...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? Notice the date of the article: April 1st :-) Although it doesn't say AM or PM. Peter Rajan Imports has changed - we are now Whispering Smith Ltd. For more information see our website at www.whisperingsmith.com Please update your address book with my new email address: pcush...@whisperingsmith.com . This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in law. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. www.whisperingsmith.com Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 1RR. Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715 London Office:17-19 Foley Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4f7b2c38.8080...@whisperingsmith.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
On 4/3/2012 12:58 PM, Peter Cushing wrote: MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? Notice the date of the article: April 1st :-) Although it doesn't say AM or PM. bwahahahahahahaha Got me! You know, I think this is the first year where AFD came and went without me noticing. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4f7b3499.9030...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
IE6 was horrendous. 7 is only slightly better; 8 finally seems to be making progress. But even 8 is way behind the other choices. Here are the only 4 reasons to ever use IE: http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2009/11/04/reasons-internet-explorer/ 5. The state developmental disabilities service agency requires all service providers to use a MS Dynamics-based application that only works on IE, for all forms of required paperwork. This is the kind of stuff that drives the system. Small-time people can't choose to do something else because the big fish make decisions like this. It happens all the time. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5.2.1.1.1.2012040320.01f67...@pop-server.stny.rr.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
Steve spelled You're correctly? ::grasping chest, having heart attack:: - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cajidmykmeggty8ogrn8yzst_zydi2bo_h_rkouo1zhnfs_r...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1333502734.18673.yahoomail...@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
Now all of this is all very well but how do I avoid IE (if I wanted to) when using VFP For example, several of my modules use the statement loIE = Createobject('InternetExplorer.Application') Is there an alternative ? On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve spelled You're correctly? ::grasping chest, having heart attack:: - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAG1nNy_XDbxOPyVeJ+Zw0ueMsPJF933Y3w6C=dxwisgayfd...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
Sure there is an alternative. Oie=createobject('internetexplorer.application') And Oie=newobject('internetexplorer.application') And oie=GETOBJECT('','internetexplorer.application') Geez that was easy. Lol John Harvey -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:31 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app Now all of this is all very well but how do I avoid IE (if I wanted to) when using VFP For example, several of my modules use the statement loIE = Createobject('InternetExplorer.Application') Is there an alternative ? On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve spelled You're correctly? ::grasping chest, having heart attack:: - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k -by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/068401cd1203$0ab75000$2025f000$@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
All 3 are IE I was asking for an alternative to IE S On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:34 PM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote: Sure there is an alternative. Oie=createobject('internetexplorer.application') And Oie=newobject('internetexplorer.application') And oie=GETOBJECT('','internetexplorer.application') Geez that was easy. Lol John Harvey -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:31 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app Now all of this is all very well but how do I avoid IE (if I wanted to) when using VFP For example, several of my modules use the statement loIE = Createobject('InternetExplorer.Application') Is there an alternative ? On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve spelled You're correctly? ::grasping chest, having heart attack:: - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k -by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cag1nny-v4kxds+8_z4mjmjybcib73eo9pyf2ijtdv8jd29r...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
I know. It was a joke. Lol john -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app All 3 are IE I was asking for an alternative to IE S On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:34 PM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote: Sure there is an alternative. Oie=createobject('internetexplorer.application') And Oie=newobject('internetexplorer.application') And oie=GETOBJECT('','internetexplorer.application') Geez that was easy. Lol John Harvey -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:31 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app Now all of this is all very well but how do I avoid IE (if I wanted to) when using VFP For example, several of my modules use the statement loIE = Createobject('InternetExplorer.Application') Is there an alternative ? On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve spelled You're correctly? ::grasping chest, having heart attack:: - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100 k -by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? --- You're funny. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/068b01cd1204$076c7550$16455ff0$@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
On 4/3/2012 9:25 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Steve spelled You're correctly? ::grasping chest, having heart attack:: It's time for me too get to bed. gdr -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4f7bd899.90...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.