Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El 03/07/12 22:56, Publius Maximus escribió:
 On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote:
 El 03/07/12 22:05, Publius Maximus escribió:
 That, actually, is what socialism, sans all the idealistic
 jabberwocky of its academic proponents, is all about: acquiring other
 people's money, and spending it to obtain, consolidate and maintain
 perpetual political power. According to that definition we've been
 socialist a long time. Obama simply opened the spigots of the public
 trough to full blast. - Publius
 Sorry but, acquiring other people's money? Spending it to obtain,
 consolidate and maintain perpetual political power? You are describing
 Wall Street and the lobbying system, not socialism.
 Six in one, half dozen in the other, these days.

 Or did you not notice whom Obama serves? Of which class is the
 estimable George Soros -- unparalleled fundraiser of left-wing causes
 and one of the biggest hedge-hog fund managers around?

 It's been this way since Marx  Engles.


You are missing my point.
That being that you haven't got the slightest idea what socialism is 
about, or capitalism. I think you'd better stick to theology, it's 
easier on older/stiffer minds.



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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El 04/07/12 08:45, Publius Maximus escribió:
 Sorry but, acquiring other people's money? Spending it to obtain,
 consolidate and maintain perpetual political power? You are describing
 Wall Street and the lobbying system, not socialism.
 Six in one, half dozen in the other, these days.

 Or did you not notice whom Obama serves? Of which class is the
 estimable George Soros -- unparalleled fundraiser of left-wing causes
 and one of the biggest hedge-hog fund managers around?

 It's been this way since Marx  Engles.

 You are missing my point.
 That being that you haven't got the slightest idea what socialism is
 about, or capitalism. I think you'd better stick to theology, it's
 easier on older/stiffer minds.
 I got your point, you just don't want to get mine. When it comes to
 love of money and power, there is precious little difference between a
 socialist and a capitalist. Often they are on the very same side, all
 the so-called nuance that impresses soft young minds not with standing
 -- it is so much pretense. This explains the one-party duopoly that
 America has been suffering under for at least a generation or two, not
 unlike the manufactured drama of professional wrestling.


We have a saying :
El ladrón cree que todos son de su condición
The thief believes everybody to be like he is

Maybe that's your case here.


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El 04/07/12 08:53, Publius Maximus escribió:
 BTW, as pertains the difference between socialism and
 capitalism...there is a wise Russian saying:

 Under capitalism, man exploits man. Ah, but under
 socialism/communism, it will be the other way around!


The fact that you think that socialism and communism are similar shows 
how little you know about politics.


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 6/29/2012 5:08 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
 If Obama gets reelected, the first thing they'll do is impeach him.   The 
 Senate and the House will be dominated by Republicans.


It'd be nice to get something productive done for the American people 
instead of these assholes wasting taxpayers dollars.


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:58 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC
 It'd be nice to get something productive done for the American people
 instead of these assholes wasting taxpayers dollars.


Can you give a few examples of productive for us?




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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Fred Taylor
How about repairing roads/bridges across the country, just for a start?  No
doubt there are some real needs in that area.

Fred


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:58 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC
  It'd be nice to get something productive done for the American people
  instead of these assholes wasting taxpayers dollars.
 

 Can you give a few examples of productive for us?




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 Sr. Analyst
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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Fred Taylor wrote:

 How about repairing roads/bridges across the country, just for a start?  No
 doubt there are some real needs in that area.

But that would create jobs, and we all know that the government can't 
create jobs! Besides, using tax money to benefit society in general is the very 
definition of socialism


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Michael Madigan
Removing Obama would save trillions of dollars. 


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On 6/29/2012 5:08 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
 If Obama gets reelected, the first thing they'll do is impeach him.   The 
 Senate and the House will be dominated by Republicans.


It'd be nice to get something productive done for the American people 
instead of these assholes wasting taxpayers dollars.


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Michael Madigan
They've wasted billions on solar energy companies that have gone bankrupt with 
nearly zero job creation.   The government never spends money efficiently. 


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The jobs that the government can't create would come AFTER the roads are
improved.  The temporary ones DURING the repairs would certainly help.

Fred


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Fred Taylor wrote:

  How about repairing roads/bridges across the country, just for a start?
  No
  doubt there are some real needs in that area.

         But that would create jobs, and we all know that the government
 can't create jobs! Besides, using tax money to benefit society in general
 is the very definition of socialism


 -- Ed Leafe


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Michael Madigan
Everything should be paid for locally and managed locally so they are 
accountable to local taxpayers.   Big Federal Government projects are big money 
wasters.  


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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote:
 How about repairing roads/bridges across the country, just for a start?  No
 doubt there are some real needs in that area.


I thought that all of those were local and not Federal.  Back in
2008 the USA gave to the local project planners a butt load of $$$ to
accomplish whatever they wanted.

Do you remember that?

Should they now override the poor decisions that our local
representatives made?

Or are you looking at BIG projects that encompass dams or are a revamp
to the interstates?


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El 03/07/12 16:52, Ed Leafe escribió:
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Fred Taylor wrote:

 How about repairing roads/bridges across the country, just for a start?  No
 doubt there are some real needs in that area.
   But that would create jobs, and we all know that the government can't 
 create jobs! Besides, using tax money to benefit society in general is the 
 very definition of socialism



ROTFLMAO

God save us from that

LOL


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El 03/07/12 22:05, Publius Maximus escribió:
 That, actually, is what socialism, sans all the idealistic 
 jabberwocky of its academic proponents, is all about: acquiring other 
 people's money, and spending it to obtain, consolidate and maintain 
 perpetual political power. According to that definition we've been 
 socialist a long time. Obama simply opened the spigots of the public 
 trough to full blast. - Publius

Sorry but, acquiring other people's money? Spending it to obtain, 
consolidate and maintain perpetual political power? You are describing 
Wall Street and the lobbying system, not socialism.


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-07-03 Thread Publius Maximus
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote:
 El 03/07/12 22:05, Publius Maximus escribió:
 That, actually, is what socialism, sans all the idealistic
 jabberwocky of its academic proponents, is all about: acquiring other
 people's money, and spending it to obtain, consolidate and maintain
 perpetual political power. According to that definition we've been
 socialist a long time. Obama simply opened the spigots of the public
 trough to full blast. - Publius

 Sorry but, acquiring other people's money? Spending it to obtain,
 consolidate and maintain perpetual political power? You are describing
 Wall Street and the lobbying system, not socialism.

Six in one, half dozen in the other, these days.

Or did you not notice whom Obama serves? Of which class is the
estimable George Soros -- unparalleled fundraiser of left-wing causes
and one of the biggest hedge-hog fund managers around?

It's been this way since Marx  Engles.

- Publius



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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-06-30 Thread Publius Maximus
Mike,

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote:
 If Obama gets reelected, the first thing they'll do is impeach him.   The 
 Senate and the House will be dominated by Republicans.

You're joking right?

Our side, such as it is, doesn't even have the testosterone to reject
a clearly unconstitutional law, for which the arguments in favor were
both pure sophistry and internally self-contradictory, much less toss
a lawless Mugabee-wannabe like Hussein out on his cookies.

I mean, we can't even get Eric Document-With-Holder to break a
sweat, despite the clearly and totally political agenda behind Fast
and Furious, which, unlike Watergate for example, actually involved
the death of law enforcement officials as a consequence of purely
political tricks.

- Publius



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 Hi Everybody,

 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/29/after-holder-contempt-vote-republicans-eye-civil-court-case-to-extract-furious/

 Holder's people aren't going to prosecute? How could that happen?
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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-06-30 Thread Michael Madigan
If the Republican hold the House, I think Crybaby Boehner is not re-elected 
speaker.    If Obama is reelected we have multiple reasons to impeach.   1.  
Ignoring War Powers Act in Libya,  2.  Fast and Furious.  3.  Ignoring the 
deportation of anyone under 30 with a HS Degree,  

Just impeach him, have the senate vote to remove, and be done with hum. 


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Mike,

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote:
 If Obama gets reelected, the first thing they'll do is impeach him.   The 
 Senate and the House will be dominated by Republicans.

You're joking right?

Our side, such as it is, doesn't even have the testosterone to reject
a clearly unconstitutional law, for which the arguments in favor were
both pure sophistry and internally self-contradictory, much less toss
a lawless Mugabee-wannabe like Hussein out on his cookies.

I mean, we can't even get Eric Document-With-Holder to break a
sweat, despite the clearly and totally political agenda behind Fast
and Furious, which, unlike Watergate for example, actually involved
the death of law enforcement officials as a consequence of purely
political tricks.

- Publius



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 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:24 PM
 Subject: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

 Hi Everybody,

 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/29/after-holder-contempt-vote-republicans-eye-civil-court-case-to-extract-furious/

 Holder's people aren't going to prosecute? How could that happen?
 --
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[OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-06-29 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody,

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/29/after-holder-contempt-vote-republicans-eye-civil-court-case-to-extract-furious/

Holder's people aren't going to prosecute? How could that happen?
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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-06-29 Thread Michael Oke, II
Pretty much a given from the start. 


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Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

2012-06-29 Thread Michael Madigan
If Obama gets reelected, the first thing they'll do is impeach him.   The 
Senate and the House will be dominated by Republicans.   


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Subject: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!

Hi Everybody,

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/29/after-holder-contempt-vote-republicans-eye-civil-court-case-to-extract-furious/

Holder's people aren't going to prosecute? How could that happen?
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Regards,

Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/
http://elect-pete-theisen.com/


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