Re: VFP application issues on new server
On 2019-02-05 05:50, Chris Davis wrote: It's all server 2016 -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Tuesday, 05 February 2019 10:29 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP application issues on new server What are the operating systems in question ? There was an issue recently with an update to Windows 10 1803 causing weird DBF problems due to SMB caching, which I believe are fixed in Windows 10 1809. Another thing it could be is the Windows Server indexing service which may be on and indexing everything depending on what flavour of Windows Server it is. It could also be online backup software that monitors locations for cloud backup. Hi Chris, What became of this? My client has an old 2003 VFP app (using VFP backend) and was having weird problems too. Never could figure it out. I'd be interested in how you fixed this. Thanks, --Mike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/229a67c6aefb9cb965b6892936550...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP application issues on new server
I will double check, but I believe it is a dedicated physical box in a data centre, which then has the two virtual machines running on it. It's definitely not a file share across the internet as when it works its fine -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Wednesday, 06 February 2019 08:28 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP application issues on new server When you say the RDS and app server are in the cloud, to me this would be ringing alarm bells unless both server instances are on same physical host all the time. Is this Azure or something? Otherwise you are essentially running a file share across the internet. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cwlp265mb16684b271474e203dc8dd9858f...@cwlp265mb1668.gbrp265.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP application issues on new server
When you say the RDS and app server are in the cloud, to me this would be ringing alarm bells unless both server instances are on same physical host all the time. Is this Azure or something? Otherwise you are essentially running a file share across the internet. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1549441676.3184209.1651920816.023c4...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP application issues on new server
Hi both thanks for the replies,
Yes we use a loader program that copies the .exe and a few other files into the
%appdata% folder of the logged on user.
The .exe then opens the .dbc which is located on the other virtual machine.
If we move the data from the file server to the rds server so all the clients
are using it locally ... i.e.
Instead of \\fileserver\ourshare
It points to
C:\shareddata
It works without issue, move the data back to the share and we get the random
errors.
The app is proven to work over many years, the only thing that’s changed is the
environment, server 2016 virtual machines on one physical host and the clients
connecting in from the rds box.
We have the same app elsewhere being used from a rds box as the client without
issue.
If anything this is the highest spec server its ever lived on, ssd drives on
the physical host etc etc.
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Subject: RE: VFP application issues on new server
As Tracy says, write or get a loader program that loads a copy of the
executable to the host machine. That way the .exe will be co-resident all the
time.
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From: ProFox On Behalf Of Chris Davis
Sent: 05 February 2019 09:26
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: VFP application issues on new server
Hi All
We have an app, which has lived on windows PC's and a windows server (on
premisis) for years which has worked without issue.
Nothing fancy going on!
It has now been moved onto two virtual machines, both on the same host in the
cloud.
One machine is acting as the file server and one as a RDS box.
All the users are connecting in using a remote desktop.
The client side of the app is designed in such a way that locally on the client
it uses dedicated files in %appdata%.
The app works but the user are experiencing regular 2005 and 1104 error
messages.
Simply waiting a period of time (usually over a minute) whatever the issue is
clears and the app continues.
Any idea what it is about this environment that causes this issue?
We have ruled out the anti virus solution used by having it uninstalled, but
the problems persist.
TIA
Chris.
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RE: VFP application issues on new server
As Tracy says, write or get a loader program that loads a copy of the
executable to the host machine. That way the .exe will be co-resident all the
time.
Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
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Flexipol® Packaging Ltd
T 01706 222 792
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buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the
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fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer
and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as
the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time
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From: ProFox On Behalf Of Chris Davis
Sent: 05 February 2019 09:26
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: VFP application issues on new server
Hi All
We have an app, which has lived on windows PC's and a windows server (on
premisis) for years which has worked without issue.
Nothing fancy going on!
It has now been moved onto two virtual machines, both on the same host in the
cloud.
One machine is acting as the file server and one as a RDS box.
All the users are connecting in using a remote desktop.
The client side of the app is designed in such a way that locally on the client
it uses dedicated files in %appdata%.
The app works but the user are experiencing regular 2005 and 1104 error
messages.
Simply waiting a period of time (usually over a minute) whatever the issue is
clears and the app continues.
Any idea what it is about this environment that causes this issue?
We have ruled out the anti virus solution used by having it uninstalled, but
the problems persist.
TIA
Chris.
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RE: VFP application issues on new server
If the executable is on the host where the data is stored and not where the RDP session connects, you may have network issues. -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Chris Davis Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 9:50 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: VFP application issues on new server As far as I'm aware the backups will be being taken as an image of the virtual machine but I will check. I don't think it's indexing related as if we move the data to the RDS box (i.e. the data is on the same box as the client) it works fine, so whatever the issue is seems to be network related but the network is running at full tilt, and obviously there is no physical network between the two machines as they are both of the same physical host ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000901d4bd64$c545eb20$4fd1c160$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP application issues on new server
As far as I'm aware the backups will be being taken as an image of the virtual machine but I will check. I don't think it's indexing related as if we move the data to the RDS box (i.e. the data is on the same box as the client) it works fine, so whatever the issue is seems to be network related but the network is running at full tilt, and obviously there is no physical network between the two machines as they are both of the same physical host -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Tuesday, 05 February 2019 10:29 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP application issues on new server What are the operating systems in question ? There was an issue recently with an update to Windows 10 1803 causing weird DBF problems due to SMB caching, which I believe are fixed in Windows 10 1809. Another thing it could be is the Windows Server indexing service which may be on and indexing everything depending on what flavour of Windows Server it is. It could also be online backup software that monitors locations for cloud backup. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cwlp265mb16682459649e0a1916c980458f...@cwlp265mb1668.gbrp265.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP application issues on new server
It's all server 2016 -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Tuesday, 05 February 2019 10:29 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP application issues on new server What are the operating systems in question ? There was an issue recently with an update to Windows 10 1803 causing weird DBF problems due to SMB caching, which I believe are fixed in Windows 10 1809. Another thing it could be is the Windows Server indexing service which may be on and indexing everything depending on what flavour of Windows Server it is. It could also be online backup software that monitors locations for cloud backup. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cwlp265mb166881b04e3c89b08c189e208f...@cwlp265mb1668.gbrp265.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP application issues on new server
What are the operating systems in question ? There was an issue recently with an update to Windows 10 1803 causing weird DBF problems due to SMB caching, which I believe are fixed in Windows 10 1809. Another thing it could be is the Windows Server indexing service which may be on and indexing everything depending on what flavour of Windows Server it is. It could also be online backup software that monitors locations for cloud backup. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1549362546.3545668.1651153000.6f554...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP application issues on new server
Hi All We have an app, which has lived on windows PC's and a windows server (on premisis) for years which has worked without issue. Nothing fancy going on! It has now been moved onto two virtual machines, both on the same host in the cloud. One machine is acting as the file server and one as a RDS box. All the users are connecting in using a remote desktop. The client side of the app is designed in such a way that locally on the client it uses dedicated files in %appdata%. The app works but the user are experiencing regular 2005 and 1104 error messages. Simply waiting a period of time (usually over a minute) whatever the issue is clears and the app continues. Any idea what it is about this environment that causes this issue? We have ruled out the anti virus solution used by having it uninstalled, but the problems persist. TIA Chris. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cwlp265mb1668eb4aaab7a3e27491ef1d8f...@cwlp265mb1668.gbrp265.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
