Re: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-10 Thread Alan Bourke


On Thu, Aug 9, 2012, at 03:07 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

   Third, not everyone is interested in every thread, and might not 
 appreciate having their mailboxes filled with irrelevant (to them) images and 
 other such attached files. It's simply better list 
 etiquette to post your image or other file to a freely available service, and 
 only send the link to the list. 

Essentially - mailing lists != web forums.

-- 
  Alan Bourke
  alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm


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allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-09 Thread James Harvey
Is it possible to send HTML emails to ProFox with embedded screen shots of
code, examples, etc.

Sometimes a picture helps explain the situation.

James E Harvey 
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www.hanoverpa.com
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RE: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-09 Thread Dave Crozier
NO, you can only post links...

Dave

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James Harvey
Sent: 09 August 2012 12:17
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

Is it possible to send HTML emails to ProFox with embedded screen shots of 
code, examples, etc.

Sometimes a picture helps explain the situation.

James E Harvey
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
www.hanoverpa.com
office: 717-637-8931
cell: 717-887-2565
fax: 717-637-6766



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RE: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-09 Thread James Harvey
I'm sure there is a good reason for not allowing this option, but at work it
has been very helpful with support and training users.

We use a program called Snagit.  One option is to do a printscreen and
then you can edit the image, add text, symbols, etc., and save it, or copy
and paste.

James E Harvey 
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
www.hanoverpa.com
office: 717-637-8931
cell: 717-887-2565
fax: 717-637-6766


-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Crozier
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:32 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

NO, you can only post links...

Dave

-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of James Harvey
Sent: 09 August 2012 12:17
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

Is it possible to send HTML emails to ProFox with embedded screen shots of
code, examples, etc.

Sometimes a picture helps explain the situation.

James E Harvey
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
www.hanoverpa.com
office: 717-637-8931
cell: 717-887-2565
fax: 717-637-6766



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Re: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-09 Thread Alan Bourke
Just post the graphic on tinypic.com and then post the link here.
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RE: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-09 Thread John Harvey
Only allowing the links keeps storage requirements to a minimum, I suspect.

John 

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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of James Harvey
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:49 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

I'm sure there is a good reason for not allowing this option, but at work it
has been very helpful with support and training users.

We use a program called Snagit.  One option is to do a printscreen and
then you can edit the image, add text, symbols, etc., and save it, or copy
and paste.

James E Harvey
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
www.hanoverpa.com
office: 717-637-8931
cell: 717-887-2565
fax: 717-637-6766


-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Crozier
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:32 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

NO, you can only post links...

Dave

-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of James Harvey
Sent: 09 August 2012 12:17
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

Is it possible to send HTML emails to ProFox with embedded screen shots of
code, examples, etc.

Sometimes a picture helps explain the situation.

James E Harvey
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
www.hanoverpa.com
office: 717-637-8931
cell: 717-887-2565
fax: 717-637-6766



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Re: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-09 Thread Kevin Cully
Plus it keeps me from uploading my hate filled, NSFW images that Ed 
wouldn't ever be able to filter out what is appropriate and what is 
not.  Yes, I have a million of those that I'd love to share with 
everyone if just given a chance.

KIDDING!

On 08/09/2012 09:39 AM, John Harvey wrote:
 Only allowing the links keeps storage requirements to a minimum, I suspect.

 John



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Re: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-09 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:17 AM, James Harvey wrote:

 Is it possible to send HTML emails to ProFox with embedded screen shots of
 code, examples, etc.
 
 Sometimes a picture helps explain the situation.

There are several reasons for this.

First, bandwidth is an issue. Sure, most people would be considerate 
and make sure that they only post important things, but people have proven 
again and again that they are incapable of trimming replies to a post. That 
would result in the same image being sent and re-sent dozens of times to 
hundreds of subscribers.

Second, binary files and attachments are the primary vector for virus 
transmission in emails. A while back I analyzed my logs to see how many emails 
to the lists I hosts had been filtered out for containing malware, and 
extrapolating out, it would have been hundreds of such emails a month.

Third, not everyone is interested in every thread, and might not 
appreciate having their mailboxes filled with irrelevant (to them) images and 
other such attached files. It's simply better list etiquette to post your image 
or other file to a freely available service, and only send the link to the 
list. 


-- Ed Leafe




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RE: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

2012-08-09 Thread James Harvey
Sounds reasonable, thanks for the explanation.

James E Harvey 
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
www.hanoverpa.com
office: 717-637-8931
cell: 717-887-2565
fax: 717-637-6766


-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Leafe
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:07 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots

On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:17 AM, James Harvey wrote:

 Is it possible to send HTML emails to ProFox with embedded screen 
 shots of code, examples, etc.
 
 Sometimes a picture helps explain the situation.

There are several reasons for this.

First, bandwidth is an issue. Sure, most people would be considerate
and make sure that they only post important things, but people have proven
again and again that they are incapable of trimming replies to a post. That
would result in the same image being sent and re-sent dozens of times to
hundreds of subscribers.

Second, binary files and attachments are the primary vector for
virus transmission in emails. A while back I analyzed my logs to see how
many emails to the lists I hosts had been filtered out for containing
malware, and extrapolating out, it would have been hundreds of such emails a
month.

Third, not everyone is interested in every thread, and might not
appreciate having their mailboxes filled with irrelevant (to them) images
and other such attached files. It's simply better list etiquette to post
your image or other file to a freely available service, and only send the
link to the list. 


-- Ed Leafe




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