[libreoffice-projects] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Oct-08

2020-10-08 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Sascha, Rizal, Heiko
Comments: Stuart

Tickets/Topic

 * Show information when a range has been defined (applies to Sort, Filter...)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132521
   + range is highlighted right now; issue not easy to reproduce (Sascha)
   + feedback doesn't hurt, however (Heiko)
   => if sorting happens in a range, it shall be shown in the sort dialog
 maybe just "Sorting will happen in the active range only"

 * Sidebar property deck string is to generic
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137078
   + No good alternative, no urgent need to change (Heiko)
   + Styles - no, Attributes - no benefit, Miscellaneous - misleading
 Document properties - duplicates existing information
   => WF

 * Add "Color Replacer" to Writer (currently it only exists in Draw/Impress)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137214
   + this function is a perfect example for an extension (Sascha, Heiko)
   + making it accessible via customization is not detrimental to usability 
(Heiko)
   => accepted, perhaps easyhack

 * How should the a word be formatted when using autocorrection (if multiple
   formattings are applied)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135909
   + keep current implementation, WF
   + picking the first letter for the format, as today, is expectable (Sascha)
   + any other character or keeping the complex formatting would be intrasparent
 with too many exceptions (and hard to implement)
   + the use case is way too much far-fetched (Sascha)
   => WF, rather INVALID

 * ENHANCEMENT: Add a lock to caption frame; so frame being image (as prevention
   for unintended changes within the frame)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135884
   + frame style > frame/graphics has Protect: Position, Size;
 enable by default?
   + side note: the modified frame style is not applied correctly => bug
   + unclear use case (Sascha)
 + to avoid accidental moving images?
   + changing the default makes it hard for Benjamin-users to move images
   + typical use case is to insert graphic, position correctly and then
 block it, done by switching on the protection (eg per dedicated frame 
style)
   => WF


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[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 8th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.

2020-10-08 Thread Olivier Hallot
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 8th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.

Presents: Travis Stewart, Dave Barton, Rafael Lima, Olivier, Soren
Jonsson, Emiliano Vavassori

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Completed items:
+ Front and back covers for 7.0 release (OH)

Pending items:
+ Change in workflow

News:
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https://conference.libreoffice.org

Topics and Discussion:
+ Suggestions for Database Functions (S Fanning)
+ Answered in the same document, need finishing touch (OH)
+ Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help

+ Seasons of Doc update (OH)
 + Wiki on Calc Functions
 + E-learning (hosted by LibreItalia)

+ Covers for Guides
 + Overall result appreciated (all)
 + Nextcloud Folder in duplicate (Dave)
+ Archive folder /Cover7/
+ Keep folder /cover7.0/
 + Credits to Rizal Mutaqin and Drew Jensen in chapters
 + Covers are memory intense, slow to handle/render (RL)
 + hi-res using SVG (OH)
 + Can we use PNG? (RL)
   + up to Guide team discretion (OH)
   + please use a copy of source to play with (OH)

+ Math Guide (Rafael Lima)
 + Like the book, very complete
 + I write Academic tech papers with math equations,
+ Math is important
 + Adding new contents and examples for 7.0

+ Other topics
 + NC performance ?
 + Sometimes slow, but not so often (DB)
 + Editing with LOOL is very slow (DB)
 + Issue with copy/move several files at once with web UI
 + learned to do it one by one.
 + No issue in download (RL)
+ LOOL is slow in FFox but better in Chrome (RL)
 + New Workflow
 + Not changed directory structure yet (DB)
 + About to finish Chap 3 of Contrib Guide
 + Later I'll mirror in wiki (DB)
 + Writing Style for help (Travis)
 + Are there recommendations for writing? (Travis)
 + Contributor Guide, Chap 4
+
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/StyleGuide#Writing_style
 + LibreLogo (Travis)
 + interested in the language (Travis)
 + Should we write a tutorial on LibreLogo (?)
   + Write a wiki page on Logo, link from Help pages for further
reading
 + Too much contents in Help will oveload translators(OH)
 + stick to the essential in Help, extend in Wiki
 + Help pages from search engines (RL)
 + search for LibreOffice leads to old wiki help (RL)
 + Wiki Help was released in 2010, (OH)
 + Until LO 6.1, when Help changed technology/URLs
 + 8 years of organic indexing won't vanish quickly (OH)
 + SEO is an avenue for permanent routine work/improvement (OH)
 + can speed up indexing but requires energy(OH)
 + API documentation (Soren Jonsson)
+ sent mail to doc list, no answer, will resend
+ API doc is hard for end-users, occasional macro programmer (OH)
+ Was writen for developers, familiar to object-oriented
languages (RL)
+ Tried to code calc cell border in python, took time (RL)
+ Many Help pages on python by LibreOfficiant, please check (OH)
+ Interested in topic too (Travis)
   + there is a working group on scripting devel and doc (OH)


Meeting ajourned

Next meeting : *THURSDAY* October 22th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
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