Re: [proletar] Orang atheis itu per-definisi pintar ?
Akankah Ilmu Pengetahuan Mengesampingkan Keberadaan Tuhan? http://id.berita.yahoo.com/akankah-ilmu-pengetahuan-mengesampingkan-keberadaan-tuhan.html From: rpara...@live.com rpara...@live.com Hehehe ini mah sama dengan studi2an modelnya si Jondil. Bisa bener bisa kaga.. tapi lumayan bisa menuh2in majalah cosmo biar bisa naek cetak.. Banyak pemikir2/ilmuwan top itu beragama, tapi atheist masih jarang denger. Atheis itu sebetulnya cuma agama baru yg dibungkus seolah2 intelek. Setau saya pemikir tulen tidak perduli dengan Tuhan dan agama. Tidak perduli tidak sama dengan tidak percaya. Itu dua hal yg berbeda... Atau mungkin studi di bawah memasukkan free thinker ke dalam kelompok atheis.. ---In proletar@yahoogroups.com, jack_fanotona@... wrote: Kalo cuma kasih unjuk satu doang mah kaga valids, itu ayat2 yang saling bantai gimana ? pedhofil bunuh kafir ? kaga di ekspose yah Dari: Tawangalun tawangalun@... Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Dikirim: Kamis, 15 Agustus 2013 10:56 Judul: [proletar] Narasi Quran lbh sopan dari Bijbel Ini narasi Kitab saya: Ali 'Imran Ayat 47 قَالَتْ رَبِّ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لِي وَلَدٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِي بَشَرٌ ۖ قَالَ كَذَٰلِكِ اللَّهُ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاءُ ۚ إِذَا قَضَىٰ أَمْرًا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ Maryam berkata: Ya Tuhanku, betapa mungkin aku mempunyai anak, padahal aku belum pernah DISENTUH oleh seorang laki-lakipun. Tawang: Nah narasinya DISENTUH,padahal kalau ITEM atau Yusfiq pasti DIENTOT. Bandingen dg narasi Alkitab nanti kan vulgar dg rating XXX: AYAT-AYAT CINTA dalam Alkitab Christian Amsal 5:19 rusa yang manis, kijang yang jelita; biarlah BUAH DADANYA selalu memuaskan engkau, dan engkau SENANTIASA BIRAHI KARENA CINTANYA. MARILAH MEMUASKAN BIRAHI, BERSAMA-SAMA MENIKMATI ASMARA… SEBAB SUAMIKU SEDANG TIDAK ADA DIRUMAH…. AMSAL 7: 16 Telah kubentangkan permadani di atas tempat tidurku, kain lenan beraneka warna dari Mesir. 17 Pembaringanku telah kutaburi dengan mur, gaharu dan kayu manis. 18 Marilah kita memuaskan birahi hingga pagi hari, dan bersama-sama menikmati asmara. 19 Karena suamiku tidak di rumah, ia sedang dalam perjalanan jauh, Jadi Alkitabmu itu bahasanya norak dan XXX,nek Kitab saya kan sopan. Paulus anak wedus.
RE: Re: [proletar] Orang atheis itu per-definisi pintar ?
Manusia itu sebetulnya gak punya arti apa2 di alam semesta. Sekali kesamber sinar gamma, langsung punah gak berbekas. Ga bakal ada yg tau manusia itu pernah muncul secuil di dalam kehidupan alam semesta. Lost in space...Beda banget kan dengan kitab suci yg gembar gembor manusia adalah pusat segalanya. Nah itu gunanya agama, supaya manusia tetep pede di tengah ketidak pedulian alam semesta heheheheJadi agama dan Tuhan itu gak mungkin ilang... ---In proletar@yahoogroups.com, proletar@yahoogroups.com wrote:Akankah Ilmu Pengetahuan Mengesampingkan Keberadaan Tuhan? http://id.berita.yahoo.com/akankah-ilmu-pengetahuan-mengesampingkan-keberadaan-tuhan.htmlFrom: rparapat@... rparapat@... Hehehe ini mah sama dengan studi2an modelnya si Jondil. Bisa bener bisa kaga.. tapi lumayan bisa menuh2in majalah cosmo biar bisa naek cetak..Banyak pemikir2/ilmuwan top itu beragama, tapi atheist masih jarang denger. Atheis itu sebetulnya cuma agama baru yg dibungkus seolah2 intelek. Setau saya pemikir tulen tidak perduli dengan Tuhan dan agama. Tidak perduli tidak sama dengan tidak percaya. Itu dua hal yg berbeda...Atau mungkin studi di bawah memasukkan free thinker ke dalam kelompok atheis.. ---In proletar@yahoogroups.com, jack_fanotona@... wrote:Kalo cuma kasih unjuk satu doang mah kaga valids,itu ayat2 yang saling bantai gimana ? pedhofil bunuh kafir ? kaga di ekspose yahDari: Tawangalun tawangalun@... Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Dikirim: Kamis, 15 Agustus 2013 10:56 Judul: [proletar] Narasi Quran lbh sopan dari Bijbel Ini narasi Kitab saya: Ali Imran Ayat 47 قَالَتْ رَبِّ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لِي وَلَدٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِي بَشَرٌ ۖ قَالَ كَذَٰلِكِ اللَّهُ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاءُ ۚ إِذَا قَضَىٰ أَمْرًا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ Maryam berkata: Ya Tuhanku, betapa mungkin aku mempunyai anak, padahal aku belum pernah DISENTUH oleh seorang laki-lakipun. Tawang: Nah narasinya DISENTUH,padahal kalau ITEM atau Yusfiq pasti DIENTOT. Bandingen dg narasi Alkitab nanti kan vulgar dg rating XXX: AYAT-AYAT CINTA dalam Alkitab Christian Amsal 5:19 rusa yang manis, kijang yang jelita; biarlah BUAH DADANYA selalu memuaskan engkau, dan engkau SENANTIASA BIRAHI KARENA CINTANYA. MARILAH MEMUASKAN BIRAHI, BERSAMA-SAMA MENIKMATI ASMARA… SEBAB SUAMIKU SEDANG TIDAK ADA DIRUMAH…. AMSAL 7: 16 Telah kubentangkan permadani di atas tempat tidurku, kain lenan beraneka warna dari Mesir. 17 Pembaringanku telah kutaburi dengan mur, gaharu dan kayu manis. 18 Marilah kita memuaskan birahi hingga pagi hari, dan bersama-sama menikmati asmara. 19 Karena suamiku tidak di rumah, ia sedang dalam perjalanan jauh, Jadi Alkitabmu itu bahasanya norak dan XXX,nek Kitab saya kan sopan. Paulus anak wedus. __._,_.___ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[proletar] Orang atheis itu per-definisi pintar ?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, according to analysis of scores of scientific studies stretching back over decades Study found 'a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity' in 53 out of 63 studies A new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers. A piece of University of Rochester analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, found a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity in 53 out of 63 studies. According to the study entitled, 'The Relation Between Intelligence and Religiosity: A Meta-Analysis and Some Proposed Explanations', published in the 'Personality and Social Psychology Review', even during early years the more intelligent a child is the more likely it would be to turn away from religion. In old age above average intelligence people are less likely to believe, the researchers also found. One of the studies used in Zuckerman's paper was a life-long analysis of the beliefs of 1,500 gifted children with with IQs over 135. The study began in 1921 and continues today. Even in extreme old age the subjects had much lower levels of religious belief than the average population. The review, which is the first systematic meta-analysis of the 63 studies conducted in between 1928 and 2012, showed that of the 63 studies, 53 showed a negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity, while 10 showed a positive one. Only two studies showed significant positive correlations and significant negative correlations were seen in a total of 35 studies. The authors of the review looked at each study independently, taking into account the quality of data collection, the size of the sample and the analysis methods used. The three psychologists carrying out the review defined intelligence as the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience. Religiosity is defined by the psychologists as involvement in some (or all) facets of religion. According to the review, other factors - such as gender or education - did not make any difference to the correlation between intelligence and religious belief. The level of belief, or otherwise, did however vary dependent upon age with the correlation found to be weakest among the pre-college population. The paper concludes that: Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who 'know better'. Criticisms of the conclusions include that the paper only deals with a definition of analytic intelligence and fails to consider newly identified forms of creative and emotional intelligence. The psychologists who carried out the review also sought to pre-empt the secularist interpretation of the findings by suggesting that more intelligent people are less likely to have religious beliefs as they associate themselves with ideas around personal control. Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits, the researchers wrote. More intelligent people get higher level jobs (and better employment (and higher salary) may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Orang atheis itu per-definisi pintar ?
Memang benar! Orang atheis itu per-definisi memang jauh lebih pinter dari pemeluk2 agama lain, mereka mudah memahami dunia supranatural, ( Kristen Supranatural ) buktinya anggota C.G.I ( Pertumbuhan Gereja Internasional ) partisipants di Rusia ada 200-an lembaga Krsiten, di Amerika cuma 34 di Indonesia 29 lembaga. Pendiri Full Gospel Indonesia bapak Bambang Wiyono dulunya orang athaies, kini beliau paham betul tentang dunia roh, dunia supranatural Admin Milis Full Gospel Indonesial From: kim kimh...@plasa.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:29 PM Subject: [proletar] Orang atheis itu per-definisi pintar ? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, according to analysis of scores of scientific studies stretching back over decades Study found 'a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity' in 53 out of 63 studies A new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers. A piece of University of Rochester analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, found a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity in 53 out of 63 studies. According to the study entitled, 'The Relation Between Intelligence and Religiosity: A Meta-Analysis and Some Proposed Explanations', published in the 'Personality and Social Psychology Review', even during early years the more intelligent a child is the more likely it would be to turn away from religion. In old age above average intelligence people are less likely to believe, the researchers also found. One of the studies used in Zuckerman's paper was a life-long analysis of the beliefs of 1,500 gifted children with with IQs over 135. The study began in 1921 and continues today. Even in extreme old age the subjects had much lower levels of religious belief than the average population. The review, which is the first systematic meta-analysis of the 63 studies conducted in between 1928 and 2012, showed that of the 63 studies, 53 showed a negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity, while 10 showed a positive one. Only two studies showed significant positive correlations and significant negative correlations were seen in a total of 35 studies. The authors of the review looked at each study independently, taking into account the quality of data collection, the size of the sample and the analysis methods used. The three psychologists carrying out the review defined intelligence as the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience. Religiosity is defined by the psychologists as involvement in some (or all) facets of religion. According to the review, other factors - such as gender or education - did not make any difference to the correlation between intelligence and religious belief. The level of belief, or otherwise, did however vary dependent upon age with the correlation found to be weakest among the pre-college population. The paper concludes that: Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme —the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who 'know better'. Criticisms of the conclusions include that the paper only deals with a definition of analytic intelligence and fails to consider newly identified forms of creative and emotional intelligence. The psychologists who carried out the review also sought to pre-empt the secularist interpretation of the findings by suggesting that more intelligent people are less likely to have religious beliefs as they associate themselves with ideas around personal control. Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits, the researchers wrote. More intelligent people get higher level jobs (and better employment (and higher salary) may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig
