[protest-ro] Re: test
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[protest-ro] Re: pedo vs gay
--- In protest-ro@yahoogroups.com, Asociatia ARIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: casstor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cam unde e limita sau, pe cale de consecinta, mai poate fi vorba de vre-o limita, Odata deschisa cutia? de CE o varsta anume si nu alta? CE argumente stiintifice exista pentru stabilirea limitei (de fapt, de doar DOUA zile) intre pedofilie si altceva, Limitele cred ca se stabilesc pe baza experientei sociale, un bun simt al societatii respective .Respective ca loc, traditii dar si epoca. Tendinta acestor cereri pare spre scaderea varstei, in Anglia cred ca s-a solicitat 13 ani, sau 14 , nu-s sigur) si camera lorzilor a respins, desi exista sustinere si de la primul ministru, dar nu numai Pe de alta parte limitele schimbatoare, au tendinta sa fie majorate, varsta minima de angajare a crescut de la.8-10 ani sau 14 mai recent , la 16 deci o prelungire a copilariei. Prelungirea scolaritatii, aduce un sindrom (are un nume dar nu-l stiu) de prelungire a copilariei, intarziere a maturizarii, lucru f vizibil chiar si la noi, unde s-a tot umblat la limitele de scolarizare. Asi zice ca e pe invers cu ce cer unii si altii. In acelasi timp, la mai toate sporturile exista categorii de greutate (gabarit, oarecum), dar si categorii de varsta. In mod stupid la BAC, la noi, nu exista nici de greutate sau talie si nici de varsta, foarte important ca diferentiere. La acelasi test sportiv, vine un intarziat de 23-25 de ani si beneficiaza de aceleasi baremuri ca un coopil firav de 17. Deci, nu suntem chiar in pas cu vremurile si nici prea consecventi. Si la gay si si la pedo va fi un hei rup , traditional. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/DXOolB/TM ~- Sageata Albastra e cea mai mare tzeapa a transportului public! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[protest-ro] Re: pedo vs gay
--- In protest-ro@yahoogroups.com, Asociatia ARIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: casstor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cam unde e limita sau, pe cale de consecinta, mai poate fi vorba de vre-o limita, Odata deschisa cutia? de CE o varsta anume si nu alta? CE argumente stiintifice exista pentru stabilirea limitei (de fapt, de doar DOUA zile) intre pedofilie si altceva, Limitele cred ca se stabilesc pe baza experientei sociale, un bun simt al societatii respective .Respective ca loc, traditii dar si epoca. Tendinta acestor cereri pare spre scaderea varstei, in Anglia cred ca s-a solicitat 13 ani, sau 14 , nu-s sigur) si camera lorzilor a respins, desi exista sustinere si de la primul ministru, dar nu numai Pe de alta parte limitele schimbatoare, au tendinta sa fie majorate, varsta minima de angajare a crescut de la.8-10 ani sau 14 mai recent , la 16 deci o prelungire a copilariei. Prelungirea scolaritatii, aduce un sindrom (are un nume dar nu-l stiu) de prelungire a copilariei, intarziere a maturizarii, lucru f vizibil chiar si la noi, unde s-a tot umblat la limitele de scolarizare. Asi zice ca e pe invers cu ce cer unii si altii. In acelasi timp, la mai toate sporturile exista categorii de greutate (gabarit, oarecum), dar si categorii de varsta. In mod stupid la BAC, la noi, nu exista nici de greutate sau talie si nici de varsta, foarte important ca diferentiere. La acelasi test sportiv, vine un intarziat de 23-25 de ani si beneficiaza de aceleasi baremuri ca un coopil firav de 17. Deci, nu suntem chiar in pas cu vremurile si nici prea consecventi. Si la gay si si la pedo va fi un hei rup , traditional. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/DXOolB/TM ~- Sageata Albastra e cea mai mare tzeapa a transportului public! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[protest-ro] vor sutine homo pe pedo???
Dutch paedophiles to launch political party By Vincent Smits in Amsterdam and Stephen Castle in Brussels Published: 01 June 2006 Paedophiles have tested the limits of Dutch tolerance with a plan to launch a political party to push for a cut in the legal age of consent and legalisation of pornography featuring young people. The group, which is due to be registered this week, said it wants the consent age dropped from 16 to 12, before having it scrapped completely. It also proposes to make child pornography and sex with animals legal. The move to set up the NVD Party (which says it stands for love of one's fellow man, freedom and diversity) has provoked condemnation from politicians, demands for a government ban and protests from the public on websites. One of the founders of the NVD, Ad van den Berg, 62, told the Dutch newspaper de Telegraaf that the fledgling party has been swamped with telephone calls from concerned people. We have a lot of explaining to do, he admitted. Mr Van den Berg said he is surprised by the reactions. Ten years ago we were on speaking terms with society, he said, but ever since the Dutroux-affair [a notorious child killer jailed in 2004] in Belgium, nothing has been open for discussion. Society just ignores us. According to Mr Van den Berg the only way to make their paedophiles' voice heard was via politics. On its website, the party says children should legally be able to have sex from the age of 12 as long as they provide consent. The NVD says it also wants to introduce a quality mark for child pornography. An independent committee should judge if the children had been coerced. The party also wants to abolish the Dutch Senate, introduce a chosen prime minister, legalise soft and hard drugs, as well as indecent exposure, and have two-time murderers automatically jailed for life. Lousewies van der Laan, the leader of the D66 Liberal Party, said these people need a psychiatrist, not a political party. The right-wing MP Geert Wilders asked the Dutch Interior and Justice ministries to look at options for banning a party with such sick ideas. That request was backed by the Christian party SGP, which urged the cabinet to look at all possibilities to ban this absolutely disgusting initiative. Meanwhile Rita Verdonk, the architect of a host of tough Dutch immigration policies, last night lost her bid to lead the country's VVD Liberal Party. Ms Verdonk, known as the iron lady of the Netherlands, had hoped her election as party leader might pave her way to become the next prime minister. But she appeared to pay the price for her role as Immigration Minister in threatening to strip the Somali-born critic of Islam, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, of her Dutch citizenship. Ms Hirsi Ali, who had admitted lying on her asylum application 14 years ago, was an ally of the murdered film-maker, Theo Van Gogh. Ms Verdonk's decision divided the nation and was criticised by several political allies. Despite predictions that her tough stance on immigration would bring Ms Verdonk victory, the 40,000-strong party membership backed Mark Rutte, the education minister. Regarded as a more elegant debater, he won 51 per cent of the vote to Ms Verdonk's 46. Ms Verdonk, a populist, has as Immigration Minister drawn up new tests on language and culture for immigrants. She also refused to pardon 26,000 asylum-seekers who have been living in the Netherlands for more than five years. Paedophiles have tested the limits of Dutch tolerance with a plan to launch a political party to push for a cut in the legal age of consent and legalisation of pornography featuring young people. The group, which is due to be registered this week, said it wants the consent age dropped from 16 to 12, before having it scrapped completely. It also proposes to make child pornography and sex with animals legal. The move to set up the NVD Party (which says it stands for love of one's fellow man, freedom and diversity) has provoked condemnation from politicians, demands for a government ban and protests from the public on websites. One of the founders of the NVD, Ad van den Berg, 62, told the Dutch newspaper de Telegraaf that the fledgling party has been swamped with telephone calls from concerned people. We have a lot of explaining to do, he admitted. Mr Van den Berg said he is surprised by the reactions. Ten years ago we were on speaking terms with society, he said, but ever since the Dutroux-affair [a notorious child killer jailed in 2004] in Belgium, nothing has been open for discussion. Society just ignores us. According to Mr Van den Berg the only way to make their paedophiles' voice heard was via politics. On its website, the party says children should legally be able to have sex from the age of 12 as long as they provide consent. The NVD says it also wants to introduce a quality mark for child pornography. An independent committee should judge if the children had
[protest-ro] politic incorect
politic incorect Daca ce ascult la tv e cat de cat corect ori coerent, aflu ca un cadru didactic din iasi este , urmarit ori haituit pentru ca a exprimat in cadru academic o opinie care , pare unora a contravine legii romane . de fapt a spus, sau asa reiese din cele relatate de media si minister, ca germanii o duc mai bine ca nu mai au o povara economica a persoanelor cu handicap, comparat cu Romania; cele spuse avand legatura cu politica nazista din germania anilor 30-45. Chiar daca nu cred ca economic e relevant si nici ca sunt nu politic corecte , incerc sa desprind daca in Romania opinii neconforme cu parerile partidului comunist, sau in cazul de fata cu ale ale societatii civile, ar fi putut, sau pot fi exprimate??? Ori legea la care se face referinta se refera la organizarea de activitati etc etc, sau eventual la acte antisemitae etc etc,si dintr-o ...scapare a legii nu si la referiri la persoane cu handicap, chiar daca exista o legatura cu germania - nazista - in acest subiect. De fapt chiar si in tari puritane sau bastioane ale democratiei , opiniile din mediul academic sunt scutite de cenzura chiar si in cele mai negre politic incorecte cazuri. Delicata situatie pentru aparatorii libertatii de expresie!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Take a look at donorschoose.org, an excellent charitable web site for anyone who cares about public education! http://us.click.yahoo.com/O.5XsA/8WnJAA/E2hLAA/DXOolB/TM ~- Sageata Albastra e cea mai mare tzeapa a transportului public! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
