[Proto-Scripty] Is someone working on Scripty2?

2011-11-29 Thread Victor
Is Scripty2 still developed? Or it is as alive (half-dead, actually) as 
Prototype? I've posted tickets on both projects in Lighthouseapp but no 
response...

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Where is ver. 2.0 is coming?

2011-11-29 Thread Victor
Also CoffeeScript sometimes generates very ugly code. Example:

CoffeeScript:
SelectParser.select_to_array = (select) ->
  parser = new SelectParser()
  parser.add_node( child ) for child in select.childNodes
  parser.parsed

Generated JavaScript:
  SelectParser.select_to_array = function(select) {
var child, parser, _i, _len, _ref;
parser = new SelectParser();
_ref = select.childNodes;
for (_i = 0, _len = _ref.length; _i < _len; _i++) {
  child = _ref[_i];
  parser.add_node(child);
}
return parser.parsed;
  };

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Where is ver. 2.0 is coming?

2011-11-29 Thread Jelks
Thank you for that Victor, RightJS looks really cool.  Just looking at
the docs, it *feels* like Prototype, but it seems to go way further.
I hadn't even heard about it before.  Thank you!!!

Jelks


On Nov 29, 8:54 am, Victor  wrote:
> Take a look at RightJS  - it is very close to
> Prototype+Scripty, and (still) has very operative support at Google 
> groups

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Where is ver. 2.0 is coming?

2011-11-29 Thread Walter Lee Davis
CoffeeScript is nothing more than a compact and terse programming language to 
generate JavaScript. Think of it as HAML for JavaScript. When you use 
CoffeeScript, it gets compiled into JavaScript before it is served to the 
browser. It's not a framework, although there are some goodies to make certain 
constructions less painful to write, in the end, those painful constructions 
are generated in full (I'm looking at you, for loops). 

In contrast, Prototype extends the JavaScript language to give it those terse 
methods that we love, and under the hood, actually writes a whole shed-load of 
compatibility shims so we don't have to write such defensive code, even when 
faced with the beast that is IE. There is nothing like that in CoffeeScript.

Walter

On Nov 28, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Pablo Aravena wrote:

> Is an object oriented language, and you can combine it with a selector engine 
> like jquery. I think is a good match for a migration, just my point of view.
> 
> Regards
> Pablo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:57 AM, buda  wrote:
> But it's only new syntax sugar - not framework like Prototype with
> many features!!
> 
> On 28 ноя, 18:48, Pablo Aravena  wrote:
> > Hi buda
> >
> > I think there will be no new releases of prototype in the near future. That
> > is sad, but some months ago I began looking at CoffeScript and I began
> > thinking that it will be the natural replace for prototype library. Also
> > many of the original creators of the prototype library are working on that
> > project.
> >
> > See this presentation:
> >
> > https://sstephenson.s3.amazonaws.com/presentations/fowa-2011-coffeesc...
> >
> > Saludos
> > Pablo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:30 AM, buda  wrote:
> > > Who knows when is early code ver.2.0 of the library will appear?
> >
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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Where is ver. 2.0 is coming?

2011-11-29 Thread Victor
Take a look at RightJS  - it is very close to 
Prototype+Scripty, and (still) has very operative support at Google 
groups 

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Where is ver. 2.0 is coming?

2011-11-29 Thread Pablo Aravena
Is an object oriented language, and you can combine it with a selector
engine like jquery. I think is a good match for a migration, just my point
of view.

Regards
Pablo




On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:57 AM, buda  wrote:

> But it's only new syntax sugar - not framework like Prototype with
> many features!!
>
> On 28 ноя, 18:48, Pablo Aravena  wrote:
> > Hi buda
> >
> > I think there will be no new releases of prototype in the near future.
> That
> > is sad, but some months ago I began looking at CoffeScript and I began
> > thinking that it will be the natural replace for prototype library. Also
> > many of the original creators of the prototype library are working on
> that
> > project.
> >
> > See this presentation:
> >
> > https://sstephenson.s3.amazonaws.com/presentations/fowa-2011-coffeesc...
> >
> > Saludos
> > Pablo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:30 AM, buda  wrote:
> > > Who knows when is early code ver.2.0 of the library will appear?
> >
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